Crashing a FISKER Owners Meetup - Didn't Expect This!

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This week we go undercover as Tesla owners to crash a Fisker owner meetup and learn how owners of the Fisker Ocean truly feel about their EVs.
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2:22 - Delete Me
3:17 - Are you worried about the future?
4:23 - Hardware A+...software C-?
4:51 - The impact of reviews
7:33 - owner prefers his Model Y over his Ocean
8:56 - The dirty details
10:37 - Tackling service after Fisker
12:55 - I'll take you on a test drive
16:00 - Constant attention
16:43 - Why not a Tesla?
19:02 - How does the solar work?
20:08 - Green as can be
20:54 - Reality far different than online reviews
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#fisker #fiskerocean #tesla

[@ankita209]

This was me when I bought a zune over an iPod

[@ItsKimJava]

😭

[@mangmang1980]

Zune was great!!!

[@LatinaNHim]

Ha! Me too! I don't use it but I still have mine.

[@AdamFrugoli]

That’s funny! 😂

[@montavio]

Zune was the best for cheap!

[@MakeOdds101]

How I felt when I bought a Sega Saturn instead of a PlayStation😂😂

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Sega Saturn? Was that a gaming console?

[@jameschoi6098]

😂

[@ramonhurt69]

LOL, this is how I felt when I bought a Atari Jaguar. But was happy when I got a Playstation later.

[@leedeehan]

Virtua Fighter one was the best

[@eggheadegghead]

Bought it for the Shining Force 3, lol. So, so, so long time ago.....

[@stevelovesemmy]

Fisker didn’t build those cars. They outsourced it to an established factory. That’s why there are no issues with panel gaps, they aren’t a start up manufacturer

[@minnguyen4872]

facts right there

[@edsta714]

They’re also building a few thousand. Try that out of the gate with a few hundred thousand.

[@SE7ENAC]

Great video from a different perspective.

[@frescosmalls]

Doesn’t really matter I suppose as the only thing consumers care about is the end result, so good on Fisker for realizing it was better this way

[@markplott4820]

Correct.

[@nanaoftheyaw]

I felt like her when a friend bought a mach-e and was bragging about the software. I was just there trying so hard not to look unimpressed or list the many features we have over it.

[@ranig2848]

Hope Fisker makes it. We need more EVs and more options for people who are sick and tired of being addicted to oil and paying dearly for that addiction.

[@ettcha]

Someone should rescue Fisker and at the same time, buy out all of Dyson's R&D and IP to bring about something interesting for the next gen.

[@tas4092]

In california, electricity is not cheap. My rate is average .40 cents per kwh. At that rate it's not much cheaper than filling up a gas car.

[@matthewspry4217]

@@tas4092 wow if everyone had the same attitude we be living in caves

[@Victic005]

Really, no one cares about the addiction. We need cheap EV.

[@SpikeLeesUnfiltered]

​@@matthewspry4217riiiight and in 2006 if you didnt have a prius you hated the environment. While attributing to the increase of smog (release of carbon monoxide that turns into carbon dioxide 2 mo later) and now the new bandwagon of enlightened evironmentalists are lkke if you don't own a ev. You hate the environment. While creating lithium mines/cobalt mines destroying the environment at a faster rate than petroleum ever could while endorsing slave labor. I guess no matter what edevor it's not the American way if someone or something isn't getting f'd. You can act like it's the better alternative but it's still just an act.

[@MXP90DL]

To be clear, I hope they make it. When I placed my order for model X in 2014 I think tesla was also having it's ups and downs but I had a really strong feeling the product was going to succeed. So I feel I truly understand what these owners are feeling. Many of the interviews seemed to have a healthy attitudes and plan for going forward. This is a big bump in their road and I hope it again all works out. They all seemed to have eyes wide open and are being brave to help build this car. Love the American spirit. Good luck and I'll see you guys down the road.

[@K9Trixx]

I would even go as far as getting an Aptera once they go to market. Its about seeing innovation grow. Looking through the comments, so many think its about competition.

[@Tetrathegod]

Tesla still having the same downs tho 😂😂😂😂 they are just richer so they can build more bs cars

[@frederickfitzwilliam5909]

Kim's face when he tried to show how fast the car was 😂😭😂😂😂😂😂 she wanted to tell him that wasn't it, so bad 😂😭😂😂

[@nycplayboy78]

I SCREAMED...LOL!!!

[@jcaravella]

That was hilarious.

[@qqHooz]

The honesty of the dude in the orange shirt deserves praise.

[@rhgamecock1]

Yes, he is about the only one of the Fisker owners I have seen who does not irrationally defend everything about the car.

[@hanstandt9587]

I'm a Tesla fan, but I really liked this honest owners interviews and I really hope Fisker will make it. Nice car.

[@genius1a]

Great comment!

[@jamesc5751]

The guy bought a $35M mansion with these chumps money. Don't worry Fisker will be fine.

[@timkline162]

I like Fisker, I hope they make it. But I think they look great and I love the idea of solar panels on the roof. It's not a lot of energy but even a small amount of free juice is nice, just for parking in your driveway.

[@markplott4820]

why ? Fisker has no IP.

[@billjackofall]

Solar panels are NOT FREE Juice. They are very expensive and don't supply much juice at all. Spend the money elsewhere.

[@markplott4820]

@@billjackofall - Solar is NOT for Vehicles, get SOLAR on your HOME + powerwall, or ask Apartments/Condos to go SOLAR w/Megapack battery.

[@markplott4820]

@@billjackofall - some NEW homes Come w/ SOLAR & powerwall.

[@actionbraxton]

I'm glad I passed on this vehicle. Imagine getting a car note for a $70,000 car, then the trade-in value drops to $21,000, but no one will accept it as a trade-in b/c the company is going belly up. Then it breaks down with no service center willing to fix it and no one making parts for it. No more updates, not even the features you were promised when you bought it. The app will eventually stop working and also get no more updates. That's the reality of owning a Fisker Ocean.

[@Victic005]

The first $25k EV. Other company talks about it but Fisker delivers.

[@AdamFrugoli]

😂

[@billjackofall]

They might have delivered, but if they are out of business, what good is it. Tesla could sell there cars for $1 if they wnated to go bankrupt.

[@Victic005]

@@billjackofall you can use the battery for a home storage system. Hahaha 😆

[@Unknown_Ooh]

What in delusional land are you talking about? The Fisker Ocean starts at nearly $40,000

[@tedg1609]

Thank you interviewees. Good and bad insights from smart, reflective folks :)

[@michaelkim3432]

Henrik Fisker. Great car designer, horrible/criminal businessman. The car owners are passionate about the product, but they need to admit that they were all ultimately ripped off by Henrik and his wife.

[@rhgamecock1]

Agree

[@genius1a]

They got a car they still love to drive - its exactly what they wanted for their money. Other new cars from major brands often aren't perfect as well , in that light this seems to be a surprisingly well made and usable car from the getgo. Despite its little flaws.

[@stephenpales1615]

Yup! I live in Oklahoma and my wife and I are flying from Tulsa to San Diego California on May 6th to pickup a Fisker Ocean Extreme. I bought it knowing Fisker's financial situation. I also know future servicing in Oklahoma may be possible or impossible. I paid $31,750 for it with 600 miles. It's going to be a great video of an adventurous couple traveling to California to pick up a vehicle with an uncertain future and make a two week vacation out of it. What's more adventurous than this?Crazy, huh? Either it will be an amazing vacation or one of the worst ones ever. We are planning on driving it around California and then driving it back to Oklahoma. There will be lots of site seeing and plenty of stopping to charge along the way. I'm excited about it and my wife is excited about it too! This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to experience a beta car and the complete unknowns. We are owners of other EVs. We have a Nissan Leaf, Hyundai Ioniq 5, Hyundai Ioniq 6, Tesla Model S and now a beta car Fisker Ocean Extreme! The Ocean Extreme was purchased to mainly tow our Waverunners all over Oklahoma. With its big battery and excellent range of 360, I should be able to get 250 to 300 miles of real towing miles per charge. This will make a great video. The Fisker company may die but it's Oceans won't be still. Thanks for letting me comment and have a blessed day today!

[@ItsKimJava]

Very cool! Man, I wish we were closer and could make for a great interview. Safe travels and enjoy.

[@stephenpales1615]

@@ItsKimJava Ahhh, that would be awesome and super fun if we were able to meet! Stacie my wife is SUPER sweet and adorable 🥰. Everyone loves her who meets her. She is going out of her comfort zone by being adventurous with me ❤️. We would drive out of our way to meet, if you lived anywhere along the route from San Diego to Tulsa Oklahoma. I will be making videos starting from the day we are driving to the airport but not uploading anything. Maybe we could do a virtual meeting afterwards. Let's see how it goes as we make this journey starting Monday next week 👍. Thank you for your response and blessings to you and your family 😊. We enjoy your videos!

[@garylopez3414]

Hate to disappoint you. As a FOO owner, I LOVE my car, but 360 charge gets you about 180 -220 real miles. I start with 80% and 285 miles for work. My job is exactly 90 miles round trip. I get home with 147-155 miles of charge when I get home. I can do 2 round trips and a half for the full 285.

[@K9Trixx]

Its just mind boggling just how many people will root for a product to fail, simply because they use another product, don't want to see competition to their favorite product or the product is out of their price point or comfort zone. The real Fisker community understood what early adaptation was. Yes Fisker still has allot of improvement to do on organizing, servicing and communication. They are a 3/10 in that aspect and that's being generous. I'd give the car an easy 8/10 weighing the joy of driving it 🆚 the current annoyances of the occasional inconvenient software bugs. With smoothed out software and future upgrades...easily a 10/10.

[@akai_zz]

Dude are you still living in 2016

[@MichaelHBallard]

Thanks for the update Interesting

[@jmp622]

The older guy is sadly hoping and reaching as now stuck on an island with no help coming. Horrible!

[@rcpmac]

No , he’s out driving and enjoying it

[@ramonhurt69]

Come on be nice. I'm sure his Fisker is a step up from his Rascal scooter.

[@UTECHPIA]

This is such a refreshing view into another EV brand! Fantastic work, Kim & PJ! 👍

[@OlavAlexanderMjelde]

Thanks for your great content, Kim.

[@redstaper2414]

I like my FOO 1003, but I totally disagree with the first guest Mike(the role of apologist) that I signed up as a "beta tester". That's total hindsight hogwash. We also didn't get "extras" as early adopters for our $70,000. We paid top dollar but have yet to get what we paid for. It is what it is. Let's see what happens next.

[@MrVeeBlog]

I hope they figure this out. I don't own a Fisker but I still want one. That car is mad beautiful.

[@jillshaub5093]

Why didn’t he let you drive it? I would have loved to see and get your impressions.

[@shapeofsoup]

I feel bad for these guys. I’d be pretty frustrated. Sure, they knew the risks going in, but actually having to experience the worst case scenario can’t be fun.

[@MimMusMet]

Great coverage ❤

[@SJenson]

The car is manufactured by Magna not Fisker

[@matthewspry4217]

And so is the ownership for warranty claims. People will have no worries about future service

[@matthewspry4217]

So are the warranty claims

[@rcpmac]

And GM for most of its life was made by Fischer

[@CSAFMedia]

Fair and balanced update on the current state of all things Fisker Ocean 👏

[@TeNgaere]

Brave owners

[@rhgamecock1]

Brave, yes. But also borderline foolish. Borderline because they didn't know what was to come. Those who buy now would be 100% foolish.

[@tonyn3227]

Service is always covered, my ass, by whom, weird people that own this are in denial till the end.

[@Sqeptick]

Yeah, had the same thought. Like, where do they think the spare parts will be made?

[@bsjtube]

Magna Steyr

[@tonyn3227]

@@bsjtube i am sure they will jump to help you out. Right

[@rhgamecock1]

​@@tonyn3227Exactly. They are just a 3rd Party Manufacturer to this and will have no responsibility once Fisker goes Bankrupt - which will happen before the end of May.

[@pjt3887]

​@@bsjtubeexactly. VW might take over service.

[@platnumphantasy]

Kim and PJ, thanks for letting us share our perspectives. We really want to see the Ocean rise from the fire. -Travis

[@keiran8819]

I don’t believe MKBHD cared about test car or not. Having them give him a perfect car is not representative of the real world experience. He wanted that real world experience and not everyone is wanting to or realizes what goes into being a “beta tester”. They sound a little in denial tbh. If the software sucks, it sucks. It’s something you interact with every minute pretty much and it’s a big deal. Let’s not forget that a lot of the reason it blew up was that “senior tech’s” reaction in that phone call lol

[@2023gainer]

Tesla promoted the video, plus Fisker Ocean was constantly in the media due to stock price movement. Earnings report dropped the stock price, not the video, occurred same weekend.

[@rhgamecock1]

100% agree.

[@Optimismcounts]

Received my Ocean Ultra today after putting my deposit down on 2/14/22. I also rented a Tesla Model 3 in Florida first week of March. Yes, I definitely liked the Tesla! Recently had to test drive the 2024 Model Y, it’s not close!! I like the Ocean more without a doubt…..

[@metroairman]

These guys trying to impress Kim when she's been in every ludicrous mode Tesla 😂.

[@ItsKimJava]

☺️

[@AndyPena89]

Lolol too funny

[@Mumble-s_Noodles]

“You ready?”

[@BrianCanon]

Grandpa wanted to impress her, who else?

[@Mumble-s_Noodles]

@@BrianCanon Can’t hate on that.

[@WHATSINSIDEFAMILY]

love how passionate these guys are on their car. So good

[@polska905]

They are obviously share holders and extremely biased, or its a case of mass formation psychosis.

[@natnathutchins]

That’s how I felt when Saturn went under. I had just bout my SUV. Loved it. Had a motor issue like year 3 and got rid of it. Expensive repairs.

[@dmcgauley]

Nice video Kim!

[@beautyofgrace3915]

I do wish Fisker the best, hope they succeed, although I have a Chevy Volt which I’m really enjoying it.

[@Marzs]

This video makes me want to buy one to be apart of the community ❤️

[@hazmatt81]

Buy one, they're on sale!

[@fabriCAKEtion]

This has been the best car ever! Not only is it Beautiful to look at but the interior is just as amazing. It’s powerful it an awesome ride. These critics are only that critics… ask those who own it to get the best answer. Someone is getting paid for crap on Fisker and truly not allowing anyone but the big companies to survive.

[@adamlaferriere3791]

I really hope that Fisker get out of their financial troubles. I think it's a great car and would 100% consider to buy one in the near future.

[@vansmith1738]

Nice, fair, professional video. There are many journalists and youtubers who could learn from you.

[@marcbee1234]

For that price I'm tempted to buy one and put a 1966 Mustang body on it !!!

[@PeaceChanel]

Thank You for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste .... 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤ 🕊

[@vikasd.7139]

At current prices, especially when they can conver your ocean One order to extreme, so you can get that 5.25K deposit appllied plus 7.5 tax credit, I think its worth it.. waiting to get mine in stealth green !

[@BartSantello]

I really hope Fisker pulls out a miracle because it's a great car and I would eventually love to buy one if possible.

[@nordlandak6853]

If you going to buy the time is now. Cheap

[@ojaygrace4746]

I own a Fisker Ocean One sequence number 1447. I have owned and driven it daily since Nover 8, 2023. I came from owning Jaguar F-Pace, and I had more issues with it in 6 months than I've has with my Fisker. Actually, I have no real issues with my Fisker. I only had the A/C vent replaced due to 1 section of 4 making noise sometimes. I really love the vehicle. I feel excited and make up excuses to drive it. It's sad that the company is having a hard time. I plan to keep mine until it can't be fixed, which I doubt.

[@matthewchilenskas2513]

Real owners know how good the car is. I saw one on the road for the first time and it was really nice looking. No doubt a great design. Solidly built. Its a shame someone reviewed the car too early and damaged a great company trying to produce vehicles to better the industry with cars that have recycled materials and capture energy from the sun! The owners say the car is fantastic. I would definitely buy a Fisker. I hope they are going to continue, its a great American company.

[@kyleb8117]

13:54 As someone who just bought a used '19 M3LR, I was nervous that I needed an instrument cluster to adjust. I didn't need one. However, I saw the T9 screen from TMA and the front camera and I had to have it. Cost me just under $300 (and was horrible to install) but now I have what's likely a much better screen than he has and it has Android Auto and all sorts of cool stuff. It's not perfect (hopefully gets OTA updates) but he's just flat-out wrong about this point. It's quite cheap/easy to get an instrument cluster in a Model 3 and for cheaper than I did it.

[@jacksoft2597]

Great video and I love my Fisker Ocean Extreme luxury

[@ItsKimJava]

Very nice!

[@bigdaddyreg]

I love it watching Kim get flirted on by old guys that look like Sandy Monroe

[@Terrillthegreat79]

The solar panel is my favorite feature. Fisker could sell solar tesla roof shade accessories and make money. I would love the option to trickle charge while parked outside.

[@Sqeptick]

It's got such a big battery and is so inefficient that the solar panel doesn't even cover the phantom drain.

[@mikemcclure3376]

This was a soldd group of owners you interviewed .they seemed realistic about the shortcomings,but concerned about the companies future, only one guy didn't seem to know a lot of those features are available on other EV's and not exclusive to fisker

[@CherylOwens-hp3fl]

Yup, buying one

[@eyespyeyespyeyespy]

"you want a ride, honey I'll take you " 😂

[@flamaest]

Ask anybody that owned a Think City electric vehicle. When the company went under there was no one to help you, you had to get rid of the vehicle for pennies on the dollar. Repairs or parts were impossible to get. It was a disaster.

[@rickkay9548]

Are you ready? (Guns it) Ok ready … Oh you did it?😂😂

[@DLAmy]

I saw a Fisker Ocen in Dunedin Fl

[@sheldoncunningham1913]

Hi Kim, you’re doing a great job and thanks for crashing the Fisker Owners ❤

[@jorgecintron9674]

All the FUD was the same when we bought our Model3P in 2019. Friends/family thought I was crazy. Now they’re everywhere. Nothing new with any EV start up.

[@ItsKimJava]

Exactly!

[@flattire707]

Except Fisker is going under.

[@Karlkn]

I am very close to order a Tesla Model X, very close!

[@jacksoft2597]

Oh no, go with a Fisker Ocean Extreme with 360 miles of range and the solar roof. It's beautiful 😍😍

[@GadielVaStar]

Me too I'm up in the air

[@ocmotivator]

I would love to get this customer list. These sweet people will buy anything. God bless their hearts. 😂

[@ConfusedAstroStation-mb2ch]

Looks like a great car, that's why you wait and not be an early adopter. I did the same with Tesla, waited before getting into one (2022 MYLR), now two (2023 M3RWD) big discounts before Highland came out. Doing the same on Cybertruck, will get it when it's the better, final product.

[@ettcha]

Thing is, someone had to bite the early adopter bullet for even Tesla to be where it is now. It's ok if that's not us, but someone has to.

[@trippplefive]

5:05 Yeah, mkbhd wanted a car for review... then Henrik offered him a bribe... you know, the usual.I'd suggest that the dark blue shirt guy buy another to keep as a parts car, because there are no parts available for this monstrosity.

[@garylopez3414]

One thing that concerns me is the lack of service and parts available. If Fisker can resolve this I would have MUCH LESS anxiety. The 2.0 software has been solid!!

[@melvinmascarenhas3299]

Good video

[@FedeHippo]

Has anyone of these owners tried googling Henrik Fiskers history with starting car companies only to have them go bankrupt within a few years? This is the 3rd or 4th time! I really like the car, but i would NEVER give my money to that man. Even though he is from Denmark just like me

[@BrianJoslyn]

I've considered a Fisker Ocean. I didn't know about this Fisker 'fallout' 'til just now. Do you know if there's something they need to do to retain the life of their company? (Kim/PJ)

[@BremboT]

Definitely would for the price. But we don't have a location here in Canada😢

[@danam0228]

I'm very curious about what that one guy said about the company needing to set aside money to cover people's repairs under warranty when everyone else including the dealer is saying the owner would be on their own

[@79bnice]

Ha ha, this is hyper mode😂😂😅Kim, okay.

[@effingsix3825]

FSRN is listed on the Over-The-Counter Exchange in the U.S. I would expect it will eventually be revealed that Fisker is a look-behind special purpose shell company that is Tata Motors’ entry into the U.S. auto manufacturing business. Tata Motors owns Land Rover in the UK, and has recently signed a deal to construct a £9B battery gigafactory.

[@gregpochet4812]

Love the rationalization from these owners.. They are still in the denial stage

[@eganeles]

Have you driven it? If yes, what you didn't like?

[@gregpochet4812]

No I have not driven it. Not sure what that has to do with anything.

[@eganeles]

@@gregpochet4812 The experience. But the future of Fisker Inc. is completely different story.

[@TheNJ54]

I would purchase one, but wait just a little longer and see how this all shakes out. I have known Henrik since 2000, no matter what, he's a designer, not a CEO.

[@VicTheVicar]

Interestingly, Doug Demuro liked the Fisker Ocean when he tried it out. But sure, whatever is going on with Fisker is enough to freak most people out. People wants stability when they're making a longterm investment like a daily driver car. What good is the car if it leaves you stranded next to the highway and you can't (easily?) get service. I'm sure the Fisker makes a lot more sense as a second fun car, given the situation in the company.

[@fitronald09]

I love the automatic rotating screen.....Tesla's should have this!

[@elviwilliamvalenzuela7278]

they can't, it's patented by fisker

[@notprobe]

That sponsor introduction is funny

[@sohailakmal3384]

The dude drinking the daiquiri is my hero. Drive safely youngblood

[@toofast4radar]

The old guy will love it when their servers shut down and the car gets bricked by a minor software issue. Then his car can be recycled into something else. I look at people driving those too, but not because it looks so amazing. I want to see what kind of person would buy one. The guy in the orange and the guy in the black shirt/hat at least not in denial and aren't BS'ing her.

[@kenion2166]

Lets be realistic, its hard to build EV with profit... So they let an external company manufacture there car which usually only do luxury brands. How did they plan to make money? Then they put a huge battery in to make up for the bad efficiency which make the production cost even higher. So technically they would need to sell for at least 80-100k. Which some ppl. are willing to pay to be "special", but that wont be enough to keep the company running at all.

[@ryans1972]

I do not know how long Mike has had his car? I have a 6 seater old electric golf cart with 2 residential solar panels on the roof that I installed 2 weeks ago in central Illinois. So far I have 32kw through the charge controller and half of the time it has been cloudy and rainy. Seems like FISKER has inefficient panels to only have 16kwh total. The Apteria seems like a much better bargain as the solar should produce about 7kwh per day on a sunny day.

[@SilvanoWilliams]

He stated it is mostly garage kept.

[@Beakerzor]

Isn't Fisker the company that was accused of securities Fraud? How are they still in business? I guess it's complicated.

[@imoliere]

I actually wanted to buy one. But I have a 5 year old car under 60K miles and I am not yet ready for an e-car. I am waiting for better range especially in winter ❄️…

[@chrisg8995]

Yes, it took Tesla 10 years to get panels right, but they have been industry leading by far on what matters… power train and software. Fisker has now been trying to make cars for many years as well and they do not have these things down.

[@eganeles]

You probably meant Fisker Karma, about 10 years ago, by Fisker Automotive. The company went bankrupt because its battery supplier went bankrupt, couldn't find replacement. This is a new company, Fisker Inc.

[@chrisg8995]

I understand. But all under the leadership of Henrik Fisker, yes? So he is ultimately responsible.

[@sohailakmal3384]

Great vehicle with bad software. Hope we can pull through this.

[@stevehan8157]

Which OEM will partner with or buy the company when it becomes insolvent?

[@Blayde]

Thought these guys were also super fair in their reviews. It wasnt all just sunshine and rainbows, and most of them have owned other EVs so its not like it was their first EV ever

[@tomrybold]

yes i would buy one

[@CuongNguyen-pv6xz]

Thanks for your video. It's very good interview and that is real. I would like to buy one. I am in north California. Do Fisker's Sell car In San Jose area?

[@ItsKimJava]

I’m pretty sure they have nearby showrooms

[@CuongNguyen-pv6xz]

Thanks for your post. I am already check. It is not in this Area as all. I wish they have a dealer here. They will sell it out like popcorn to be honest. I hope they do some test drive here in San Jose.

[@timothyburnside3229]

So after the buyers told you about app failure he puts is in auto pilot?

[@4tune8chance65]

I think if you were a handyman and needed a second car, it would be fine and also some fun in keeping it for the sake of keeping it going, a bit like owning a vintage car.

[@StormyDog]

Anyone want to buy my Betamax and tapes? I'm sure they'll be back in vogue. Soon... Also have some Sony Minidiscs. No panel gaps in either the Beta or Sony player.

[@blipco5]

How will you get body parts in case of a crash?

[@flattire707]

You won't.

[@ron1359]

Now is kind of a weird time for EV’s. The value of them are dropping like rocks including Tesla. I think it’s just a hard time to be a new ev automaker unless you’ve got a decent foothold like Tesla already had. Fisker will likely get bought for pennies and but I think just to own their IP. It’s sad because I think more ev competition is needed.

[@jowowetan]

Even Fisker website is not really working 🤣 I'm stuck at "preparing your build". Oh well.....

[@hyghner]

I feel like if a company can take someone's money for a product you should be able to give them a review as the product exists. GM did a stop sale on the Blazer EV to prevent reviews. If the product is not worthy at the time stop selling it and stop taking people's money.

[@jonlivingstone]

A lot of good things here. Tesla is now mainstream. ❤

[@jupsternyc]

Car can cause so much emotion in people. What one person loves another can find ridiculous 😂

[@Bob_Sacamano]

They're all drinking Copium Cola. It's not about how its a different brand, its about how he just outsourced production and hired terrible executives. Bad business led to this.

[@JCruzify1]

An ocean will be a classic collector. It will be worth more for there will be less of them on the road. Keep with low mileage and originally.

[@user-tc8cz3tq9e]

I've never seen anyone drink the koolaid as hard as that old guy with the mustache