Fisker Ocean Owners - What Now!?!

I give my thoughts on the current Fisker situations and what various buckets of Fisker owners should do moving forward.

[@Neutrinum]

A car without service and parts which you can't repair and service yourself is just an expensive brick of metal! You will even end up paying someone to get rid of it!

[@jake78441]

I agree no parts or service center like rivian. Time to junk the fisker ocean

[@andreasl4507]

@@jake78441junk Rivian also.

[@jake78441]

@@andreasl4507 nah bro u hellla wrong lmao rivian got more money and capital/sales

[@marsEv310]

Pay me and I guess I’ll take the ocean off your hands

[@s2kroma303]

@@andreasl4507 Rivian is fine, I had r1t and no issues. Their service center is only 20 minutes away from my home.

[@monsterpatbro1041]

I got the 2.0 update a few days ago and it is really an impressive drive now. I would like to see them survive and still believe in the light asset business strategy. Just mismanaged at the top with Geeta as the CFO. I believe they had good intentions but she simply tried to cut costs to much and didn't higher enough for accounting and had to much faith in DTC. Hopefully they give up control and an investor takes over. Henrik can stay on design team but Geeta Gotta Go.

[@EV-365]

Yup, the husband/wife combo was not good. The promo pic of Henrik being relegated to the background while Geeta stood strong in the front tells us all we need to know of the power dynamic there. Best case scenario is someone sees an opportunity here and saves the day, otherwise there will atleast be a very unique community of Ocean owners out there who I know will rally to support each other.

[@probablyobvious1286]

Be mindful if you go to sell that, because of the dramatic price cuts, your vehicle is worth NOWHERE NEAR what is was unless you got the Ocean One.

[@ROKKANS]

Never trust a woman in business matters

[@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726]

A bankrupt company doesn't have a roadmap of any kind.

[@EV-365]

A stairway to heaven?

[@_icscata_]

Man I have an old 2009 diesel Volkswagen but it simply does what it should. No updates, no bad moods, no pointless errors… It simply does the job. And the damn thing was 8k when I bought it…. 😅💪🏻

[@EV-365]

EV's will get there, but sadly there will be companies like Fisker that taint the image for the ones doing good. Loved my VW Jetta (first car)!!!

[@memyselfundeye]

Great heartfelt video. Never expected to be in this situation 2+ years ago when i made my reservation! BTW , your doggie windows will work w/o software update if your service tech disconnects 12v terminal for 20+ minutes and updates the modules with his laptop. Worked like a charm on mine and this was way back shortly after i got 1.11 Keeping mine as its running well now and i have full 2.0 update. Can’t really consider unloading it for pennies, so hopefully my license plates/registration will arrive before my 2nd and final set of temp tags runs out in 2 weeks… Keep making great videos- yours are the most authentic ones available!

[@EV-365]

Really appreciate it! I will keep putting them out and hopefully all of us Fisker owners can work through the next steps together!

[@Ghostz9962]

I'm so close of getting the extreme for $37500, so your saying I shouldn't? Had mine reserved since January 2022. And locked in before August 16 for the $7500 state refund.

[@richardmeans5357]

I appreciate your videos. I did get a tech to come out about a month after I got the Ocean Ultra and he fixed my windows to open and did and update to the 1.11 which fixed some of the error messages. Two of them came from Phoinex AZ to Las Vegas and they was Great and I have continued to keep in touch. I just got the 2.0 update last week which added the hold feature and some others. The only error I get once in a while is the front camera especially when the sun is bright. He said that fix should come in 3.0 if we make it there. My car drives great and I plan to drive it until the wheels fall off. lol

[@EV-365]

Thanks for watching! Sounds like you are in a good spot! Definitley will be able to drive it for years to come even if Fisker has to shut the door. I think there will be lots of people that can keep these things running if there are issues down the road.

[@GSP-76]

​@@EV-365They will continue hoboring warranties even if they close theur doors up..they have a deal with a battery company too..the Ocean One battery is split into multiple battery compartments and you can change out just some of them fir new ones at $250 a pop...that alone will keep these SUVs on the road fir many years.

[@dougabbott8261]

Thanks for keeping everyone in the loop.The silence out there is deafening.

[@EV-365]

Yes. Very unfortunate. I will definitely let folks know what works out for me. Worst case, I'll be holding on to the car and helping owners navigate owning a car from a defunct company if it gets to that.

[@ulizes80]

Im in a very similar place Raj. One question I have is: if the title hasn’t changed hands, is the sale final? Could I somehow return it without penalty ie without Fisker ruining my credit?

[@EV-365]

I am trying to figure out the answer to this as we speak. Will let you know what I find out. For now, I have told Fisker that I am not submitting any additional paperwork related to Titles to the. Especially since they have asked for the same documents multiple times, and most recently asked me to sign a VIN certification stating the vehicle is not in Texas so an inspection could be waived. The vehicle is in fact in Texas, and I think they know it won't pass inspection.

[@oghenetegaisrael2889]

Many thanks for sharing

[@EV-365]

Thanks! I’ll post updates!

[@rmorales1029]

I would be interested in learning more about your option 2.

[@EV-365]

DM me. It starts getting into legal things so I don’t want to give public advice on that until I’ve been through the process myself. I’ll get you pointed in the right direction.

[@BartSantello]

I have to admire your positive attitude!

[@EV-365]

Trying to make some lemonade!

[@271830066]

After owning my Fisker Ocean Ultra six months I noticed that when every I get in my Fisker in the morning in side my garage the temperature inside my car is very warm. Is this normal with all electric cars? - is the heat coming from the battery pack while sitting in my garage over night?

[@_AngelSaint]

I worked at Fisker in the Socal area they just closed the only service center down there half the technicians are gone. Vehicle parts have been delayed for over two months we took parts off from other vehicles and installed into customer cars the technicians don't even have access to software 2.0 it only comes from the engineers but I have more information behind the scenes if you would like to know more

[@EV-365]

I’ll reach out to you directly.

[@_AngelSaint]

@@EV-365 sounds good

[@EV-365]

@@_AngelSaint What is the best way for me to get on contact with you?

[@_AngelSaint]

When I first started they wanted all fixes to be over the air and didn't want customer's to come to the service centers but if you do have a pre order cancel it

[@user-rh6ji1ot8q]

Is the Rivian R2 bigger than the Fisker Ocean? Does it sit higher?

[@EV-365]

Yes, The R2 definitely sits higher and a little longer than the fisker. The interesting thing with the Fisker is the roof line is actually pretty high, but it feels more like a crossover than an SUV, which the R2 feels like.

[@Emaratilfy]

Wait, did you purposely NOT update your software to the newest version 2.0 or did you just not get it yet?

[@EV-365]

Never got it! Never even got the one before 2.0!!! I finally got it about a week ago, the brakes started making a vibrating noise when pressed, even in the park position, so I didn't drive it for a few days, and now the car is dead. Sent in a ticket, no response.

[@bmrbca3658]

How does auto insurance work if they go out of business. They'll be no body parts available. Are you only able to get liability? What if someone hits you?

[@EV-365]

Good question! I am sure you can still get full coverage, but repairs are going to be harder to make, which means costs will go up, which means insurance for Fiskers would be higher.

[@enzhus]

They will have to buy you a new car! 😂😂😂

[@tumentumengoosh5178]

love this car very much! wanna buy it!

[@EV-365]

If you do get one, insist on the latest software being installed, registration to be completed upon delivery, and a test drive!

[@vinnym5095]

I have a reservation for the rivian R1T. But this is my concern for rivian, what’s your take with them?

[@EV-365]

Love Rivian. We have the R1T and no regrets. They had minor software issues to start, but they listen to the customers and get updates out monthly. They also have deeper pockets than Fisker with the backing of Amazon as well. With that said, it is a new company, so you never know. But I would still recommend Rivian to anyone that was interested. One thing I would suggest, is look at the used market if you don't mind used. You could save quite bit that way on the R1T.

[@AdamHagin]

Where he asked

[@AdamHagin]

Where does he take his Rivian

[@TuvingtonD]

Rivian may go bust as well. The numbers simply don’t work for them either.

[@memyselfundeye]

@@TuvingtonDif they make it until the R2 is released, they will survive. That thing has close to 100k deposits already. I’m looking at making a deposit for it just to get on the list but would really be interested in the R3 instead .

[@jeffschmidt4349]

Sorry to this news.. I sold the AIR as I was concerned about the same thing and there's no service areas here in DFW. Good Luck and hopefully you get a resolution.

[@EV-365]

Much appreciated! I have a little more hope for Lucid, if only because they have deeper pockets. I think I will come out of this OK, one way or the other. Worst case it will make for interesting content to have an EV from a possibly defunct company and help people navigate that.

[@AaronBrooks0321]

I wonder if this is an opportunity for a company to open source their vehicle software?

[@EV-365]

It is definitely going to be interesting to see what happens next. Fisker may not make it, but there are some unique opportunities to be taken advantage of.

[@FriedChairs]

How would NHTSA do software recalls in that case?

[@jameshernandez5766]

I wonder if the Lemon Law is applicable on a vehicle that won’t come out of park and there’s no one to fix it.

[@EV-365]

I am working through that answer as we speak. Stay tuned.

[@edswrld]

They have to try n fix it twice

[@RAHULrr2007]

Iam FOO owner and i know 5 guys in my circle who bought FOO , they love it and they are happy with 2.0 update from previous bugs . It’s all miss management and poor quality customer service ,missing great market opportunity.

[@EV-365]

This is it 100%. They got 90% there, built a nice vehicle, and then mismanaged the soft side of it. Software, service, and financials.

[@edwardsdou3597]

Poor team of CEO n CFO

[@monsterpatbro1041]

You need a new seat sensor. What's happening is the seat sensor isn't sensing a body in the seat so it won't go into gear. It might be to late now.

[@EV-365]

Yes, that seems to be the issue as others have experienced it as well.

[@ShaneDenmark]

Wishing you all the best..... I'm right there with you.

[@EV-365]

Much appreciated! Same to you! I'll keep people updated on my journey with the car.

[@PeteLenz]

Problem is there’s essentially no unique intellectual property and no capital investment. No one would buy what’s left

[@EV-365]

Yup...that is the biggest problem. The only thing Henrik has at this point is the brand, and I don't think Fisker will mean much any more. He effectively has thrown any good will he had in the industry from his past design successes.

[@ccvr6]

I love the way this car looks. Inside and out. What a shame. I saw an Ultra model with 3k miles for only $30k at a local dealership. I’d love to buy it, but I don’t wanna get myself into it and be stuck with it if it turns out to be a lemon or something. Crap.

[@EV-365]

Yes, avoid it. It really is too bad. Could have been great but they rushed it out when it wasn't ready.

[@rossiflyby1384]

ADU suggestion was awesome 😂

[@EV-365]

Thanks! Have to find the humor in all of this somehow!!!

[@JBsC6]

Wow maybe Magna can take over and solve software issues mentioned

[@EV-365]

Would be nice, but I am sure Magna lost a ton of money on this as well. Hopefully Henrik has not left them holding the bag. Perhaps they end up with the remaining vehicles if Henrik simply can't pay.

[@Mvjesty23]

I was literallyyyy going to the dealership after work to lease one omgggg

[@EV-365]

Please tell me you didn't. Hard no to anyone considering getting one!

[@BremboT]

I find it interesting that the Ocean One isn't included in the flash sale. I suspect Henrik has plans to keep Fisker going, and perhaps rewarding Ocean One owners, like yourself, somehow. Going out of business sale would mean everything must go.

[@wizzyno1566]

You're delusional.

[@EV-365]

I hope that’s the case but I suspect the One’s are the trim with the most problems because they were made and delivered first. They may also not have as many in inventory. They were very eager to get me into a One instead of taking my Extreme which already had a VIN assigned.

[@blazer6576]

Yeah Henrik is in a great position to do what he wants /s

[@Secondwind2010]

Sad, very sad! 😢

[@Daniel_Capital]

The design aesthetic and innovation fits Apple so well. My dream would be for Apple to buy it relaunch as the Apple Car. Overhaul the software so it’s the best in the industry, then launch the alaska and pear as well

[@EV-365]

This would be the dream scenario!

[@SingaporeFriedrice]

Please let us know when you get a software update.

[@EV-365]

Will definitely keep everyone updated!

[@JanaiB72]

Keep bothering them frequently to get them to send you an Engineer to install those vents. Your software will be updated during that visit.

[@EV-365]

Unfortunately, I’ve done that to no success. I recall hearing that their service tech in the Texas regions quit.

[@bmrbca3658]

@@EV-365 I know it's a hassle, but can you travel to another state that still has an operating service center and get the software update and any open tickets taken care of?

[@EV-365]

@@bmrbca3658 interestingly enough. Just happened to get a software update after this video went up and sent in a formal letter of complaint. Accepted the update. Seems to be 2.0 1/2 and now the brakes make a vibrating noise when pushed. Have not attempted to drive it yet.

[@JanaiB72]

@@EV-365 Raj, Fisker has more than one tech for Texas. It’s too big to have just one tech there. Call Fisker and ask for Marcus or Juan.

[@s2kroma303]

Did tesla open up or planning on opening their supercharging network to fisker?

[@EV-365]

Fisker did make an announcement several months ago stating they will switch over the the NACS standard. But at this point, I am just not sure we will ever get to that point. For what it's worth, my Fisker does not work with Tesla Level 2 chargers using a J1772 adapter.

[@chealay7251]

I'm sorry to hear. I hope you get your 2.0 update and all things are fix.

[@EV-365]

Fingers crossed!

[@EVPHASE]

This has happened to them before 3 times

[@EV-365]

Henrik definitely setting up a bad track records. He may need to stick to design and not operations.

[@daviddill5227]

What an unmitigated disaster Fisker is. Someone or some company might take it upon themselves to give it a try running Fisker. But the potential sale price is pennies on the dollar. My advice to anyone thinking of buying a Fisker or maybe the company. Put your money into other things that will produce fruit worthy of your purchase. Let the buyer beware.

[@EV-365]

Definitely buyer beware at this point. So unfortunate, because in the middle of all this mess, there actually is a vehicle that had a lot of potential. It really did not need to go this way, and so many people are going to be in a tough spot because of it.

[@jermainelatimore2733]

So they go out of business that 8 year 100k miles is pointless?

[@EV-365]

Yup! It appears so. I know companies that go bankrupt are expected to set aside funds to honor warranties but not really sure on how all of this will play out.

[@FiskerOceanSpecialist]

Cheers mate

[@tpc3416]

RIP

[@EV-365]

Gone to soon...

[@Hazdazos]

I have a hard time feeling bad for consumers who put themselves in these positions. You are willingly buying a product that simply isn't finished. Paying a premium to be a company's beta tester. Someone that states "well it's just software" simply doesn't understand that software is the most difficult part of modern devices to update. I can buy new tires. I can't buy new window motor. I can buy a new steering rack. What I can't do is fix a bug in line 32 million of a product's code. What SHOULD happen is that if a company goes belly up, all their source code should go open source. That would all these products, whether they are cars or phones or anything else, from turning into useless e-waste. But we all know that kind of pro-consumer legislation will never happen. So stop believing that some software glitch will get fixed after-the-fact. If it doesn't work on the day you bought it, don't expect it to magically work after the company already has your money. Stop being a guinea pig for these companies.

[@EV-365]

That is certainly the risk of being an early adopter. But feeling bad for people that were excited and supported a brand and spent their hard earned money shouldn’t be a hard thing to do.

[@Hazdazos]

@@EV-365 early adopters enable and even encourage these terrible business practices. So yeah, it is hard to feel bad for these folks who make it worse for everyone.

[@kwangyi2134]

32M line of source code, where did you get that number? Sound like idiot Musk talking non-sense garbage. Do you get this from a spaceship or something? EV is not a super complex device, just needs the right algorithm to control torque and what else is there, maybe a regen... I worked on the very first generation of EV back in the 90s for GM's Impact's forerunner.

[@AuralioCabal-nl8gi]

Sorry that you got conned by Henrik Fisker, should have stayed away from that guy, "Not with a 10 foot pole ",they say.

[@EV-365]

Definitely seems to be the case with Henrik. Buy a car he designs, but don't buy one from a company he runs.

[@Y2Kvids]

EVs are easy to repair with EV parts .. imagine Tesla part swaps in future

[@EV-365]

I can see a group of Fisker owners and specialty EV shops that can get things right. Honestly, with an EV, there should not be much that goes wrong, assuming Fisker gets the software right before pulling the plug. Of course they made it harder to get to the washer fluid and things like that with the non-openable hood but even that can be done.

[@soundsgoodbro]

disappointing to hear a lot of current owners buying into the news and bailing on fisker like this. I don't own an ocean, but I've bought plenty of stock turnarounds from once enthusiastic investors who sold on the bottom only for the company to completely turn around within weeks or months. Definitely looks bad if you believe the dogpile negative articles but if you're a fisker enthusiast or longterm investor - just dont let these guys convince you to sell your shares for $0.02.

[@EV-365]

I do agree with you in that selling shares at 0.02 cents does not make sense. May as well hold the bag at that point, unless you want to lock in the loss for tax reasons.

[@johnc2438]

Grain of salt!?!? How about $70000 worth of salt!😢

[@EV-365]

So much salt, I have high blood pressure!

[@user-go5pc3hl2z]

There was never any hope for this vehicle... The most basic aspect of staying in business is to not sell your products below what it costs to manufacture them. At no stage did Fisker ever come remotely close and for all those who think it's such a pity that Fisker is going to the wall with such a great value car... You are wrong. The cars needed to be ratailing clost to 100k for ny profits to be made and suddenly, the cars are not great value and would have zero buyers interested. That is the clear truth

[@Boomtendo4tw]

If fisker stops selling you'll have a pretty rare car

[@EV-365]

I do like rare. But this might be too rare for me! Ha!

[@jake78441]

That i agree but if something breaks on it how the hell u gonna get it fixed lol

[@yacahumax1431]

Where do ev companies get so many idiots CEOS? This is so easy. 1. make EV car, 2 license NACS, and Tesla UI and TEsla FSD. 3. Go on sale. Is it really that hard? Why do they feel that have to do EVERYTHING AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN??

[@EV-365]

The irony is Henrik actually took the out of the box approach to building the vehicle by bringing in Magna to build the cars, but he clearly just cannot run a company. Fiskers issues appear to be all operations and financial management related.

[@somedudeonyoutoob]

this is well deserved if you buy a car that you knew was headed toward bankruptcy

[@Boomtendo4tw]

Keep hearing can't repair blah blah blah. Anything made can be repaired. Ppl have built their own ev

[@EV-365]

Yes, for those with Fiskers that are running fine and have the latest software, I do not think future repairs will be a problem. And hopefully there will be enough of these discount Fiskers out there for parts.

[@3pilot]

Feel like you’re hitting the nitrous a little too soon on this video “too soon jr” looks like there’s still a very good chance at life for fisker

[@MrRelmonte]

This really stinks 🙁

[@EV-365]

For sure. At least I am getting some content out of it. Hopefully, I can help people navigate the next steps as I go through them myself.

[@melvinholland9656]

Software bugs are one thing but many owners have paper plates, i.e. they don't legally own the vehicle such as yourself. That is outrageous. No matter how much you like the vehicle there is only so much one can stomach. As a Y and R1T owner, I simply shake my head. Fisker is a fraud...again. Good luck Bruh.

[@EV-365]

100%. Fisker designed a car with some cool ideas and a lot of potential just couldn’t design an actual company around it. Very disappointing. I’ll always have my R1T. It’s my happy place!

[@foxtrotwolf6081]

Where can we get one? After seeing news of the $25k version, I started looking. It would make a good off-road vehicle with an engine and drive train swap. No smog check because it's electric.

[@wizzyno1566]

​@@foxtrotwolf6081🤡

[@EV-365]

@@foxtrotwolf6081 They are on the website now. The deals are tantalizing even after the trouble I’ve had with mine! Ha!

[@EV-365]

@@foxtrotwolf6081 they are on the website as of today. I think that is a great idea if you have the cash. Did not see any of the sports available though!

[@aeromtb2468]

buy two so one can be robbed for parts

[@EV-365]

Seriously!! I’m loving this idea!!! Buy an Extreme to drive and a Sport for parts. All for the price of the Original Extreme!

[@vladimirgarcia9486]

Or you can end w/ two useless vehicles w/ the same faulty parts.