Crashing Down, Industrial Renovation Emergency

[@DanielSilva-ws5cq]

How to eat an elephant... one bite at a time. It's a journey one step at a time. I'm so glad you stepped up to rescue this building. You're doing great 👍

[@1ajs]

build a temp supporting walls asap to stableize but u realy should start from the first floor to transfer the load all the way to the ground

[@jpelfrey325]

I'm ten minutes in.. It's not as bad as you think dude.. Couple temporary walls and you can do it as you can... Keep at it my man. I can't wait to see you get this place the way you want it. Don't give up on it

[@82ndairbornevet]

Chris, I’m not even gonna yell at you this time, but you have to STOP what you’re doing and immediately fully inspect the entire building structure. I’m pretty sure this is one of the first things I suggested that you needed to do besides drying in the roof. Those are two very major issues that are building destroyers. It might even be worth paying someone to do the inspection for you. Keep on Truckin’😎

[@brickandsole]

Yeah before we go for the eventual approach I will call in as many favors and resources as I can. So hard to do on a budget like mine. But one way or another we'll get it sorted. Thanks for being in my corner!

[@imonaroll9502]

Roof, Structure, windows, power, water, plumbing, I spent 8yrs of my life keeping a building up and running, it is no joke.

[@colleenvarlow8764]

Definately a priority, those beams. Urgent first, everything else after. Thanks for the video you two.

[@feathers352]

Bob has a good idea. Make two heavier laminated beams and run them parallel to the bad beam on each side about 6-8 out depending where you can find something solid. That will carry the weight of the original beam to the sides until you can replace it.

[@Kevin_Patrick001]

I think steel replacement beans would be the way to go. You should start on the first floor to ensure a secure base for each above it. Its expensive but its the way to go. Wish I were there to show you how to do it.

[@brucemartin8435]

Get up on that roof to stop all further damage!

[@TheOldMansPicks]

Good thing Bob wasn't wearing a kilt when he was replacing the door window glass! LOL

[@nononsenseBennett]

Tent over the sagging roof to divert any water away from this area so it can have a chance to dry. Big job. Good luck.

[@Rickimusic]

You could sandwich the new steel with old wood veneer to keep the wood look upstairs. Getting it fixed is of course the key.

[@mattwietlispach7606]

Chris, don't let anyone scare your dreams away! When I was a teenager, I worked for a guy who salvaged antique door knobs, light fixtures and even whole doors., among many other things. These were from abandoned buildings in Chicago and were in the process of being torn down. So I've seen this kind of beam rot before and, naturally, never trusted any wood floor I stepped on. Elevator rooms were also full of grease leading to an open shaft. MUCH worse than your elevator room. But your kind of deep restoration has a lot of precedent behind it. There are all kinds of buildings, in similar shape, that were rescued and repaired into luxury loft apartments. Things I never thought they could fix, actually were. You don't have an army of contractors to repair your factory, but that just means progress is slowed, but not stopped. Respect the rot. Don't try to take it all in at once and you'll be surprised what you can do. Keep with it!

[@leightondoswell453]

good luck. I love watching your videos so thank you big hugs.

[@darrentaylor6382]

I remember that very same orange plastic when I was a boy. I seem to remember dad using some of it indoors to partition a room. Yes 1970's early 80's

[@brickandsole]

I hope I can figure out what it is called. I ended up giving it to a friend who really wanted it.

[@bearhardcorepicker]

Glad you've got an engineer on board. Wonder if there are any demolition/salvage companies around the area who would have the right materials? I know there are some in the Winnipeg area that have such beams, but that isn't exactly a viable option. Old bridge building companies with bridge timbers in their storage yards? Other factories/industrial buildings being dismantled?

[@brickandsole]

Ive been hearing of a few places/options. I am sure if I get creative well get it sorted.

[@timloveless5409]

Chris, I agree with previous comment that the whole beam situation looks worse than it is. Here is what I think I would do and I have a fair amount of experience jacking and straightening old houses. To support the floor joists while you replace timbers`you may have to cut a hole in the floor and run a 6x6 all the way down to the concrete. With the weight off of it I would remove the post on the third floor then cut the rot maybe 6" deep and 2 feet either side of the post out of the horizontal beams on the second floor fill in the beam with an oak block. My need a couple thru bolts to tie into the existing beam. I would then cut off the rotted part of the third floor post and put it back in place. Fill in under the roof joists with additional blocks like the existing one until the desired height is achieved. Doesnt sound like much if you say it fast, say it slow and it's overwhelming. Very little new wood needed.

[@brickandsole]

that sounds a lot like what Bob has planned. Thanks!

[@freedomtowander]

We are actually not that far from each other. I’m right by Scott Air Force Base. That’s a great building. I’m glad you guys are saving it!

[@pskully57]

You’ve amassed a great group of consultants both in person and on the channel. I do believe you will overcome the challenges. I never realized the extent of the water damage. I never noticed that there’s a corner office there too. I pray that the other building provides for you. That would be ideal. That yellow plastic with the circles can be seen on I Dream Of Genie as you enter Major Nelson’s kitchen.

[@brickandsole]

that is so random and cool that you recognized that from the show. Thanks!

[@stoveguy2133]

Went to gym in 100 yr old building. All stone. They brought in 30’ steel beams to reinforce entire building. I’d love to go back there and see what new owners did with it.

[@christophersielski1388]

Chris, As a point of clarification, the steel column you pointed out at the end of the video is a wide flange beam or W beam not an I beam which has a much narrower flange. As others have suggested, I think adjustable steel jack posts are the best for temporary bracing and are quite strong. You would need long ones and still should plant them on cribbing to spread the load. They are not inexpensive but you may be able to score some used units.

[@brickandsole]

This was a very helpful tip, Based on this I had the keywords to look up and learned quite a bit that I didn't know about steel beams. Thanks for that! Much appreciated.

[@AnnHinrichs-j8z]

Boy Chris, that sure makes me scared for you. I worry about you and Bob’s safety working on that 😕. I hope you can temporarily get it fixed to prevent a disaster. It is a shame the old Mattoon plant has so much you could use 🤞that things work out. We believe in you!

[@bobrobert9413]

Spoiler Alert! We are still alive😂 Bob

[@AnnHinrichs-j8z]

@ thank goodness!!

[@teresaclark5465]

This video was super interesting to me. I can't wait to see the stop-gap fix.

[@limelightcinemagroup2148]

Chris I've been watching this other KZbin in out of France where they're restoring a Convent and they had the same problem with the beams what they did was they put a bolt and a metal plate into the beam or a couple metal plates to secure the beam

[@terismith3279]

The Pethricks!

[@bobrobert9413]

I have watched them as well. I wish we had their budget. Lol Bob

[@terismith3279]

@@bobrobert9413 they have fund raisers for certain projects. They got an organ and rebuilt it and sold art prints to pay for it. It worked for them.

[@brickandsole]

I wish I had that many subscribers! haha, maybe some day.

[@toniasalways]

Get a fan on that wet area!

[@brickandsole]

Will do! thanks for the tip.

[@sharlettedavidson81]

Hey Kris, hi Bob, Yeah it’s serious but bottom line… You can fix it all you want… Until you locate that leak and get it plugged up and fixed on top it’s just gonna keep on happening so once you get it fixed you Gotta be sure you correct the problem. Sad is that all sounds a leak is a leak . And it’s too darn bad that these people aren’t contacting back and being kind because it’s gonna cost them more to send it to the landfill then have you come and pick up what you need it’s really unfortunate that people can be out this way Sending good vibes guys…many prayers for great blessings with your building Chris…✨🙏✨💖

[@bobrobert9413]

Hey back at you. Bob

[@brickandsole]

Thanks miss Sharlette. and thanks for the good vibes!!

[@RobertTetlow]

That song arout the wet stuff is simply kick ass. Whoever did it could have a music career if they don't already.

[@voxelfusion9894]

Pretty sure he wrote the lyrics and the rest is obviously AI. He's got a knack for songwriting, that's for sure.

[@louderone6133]

OMG...that yellow sheet! You could buy that from K-Mart in the early 70's. My father bought some of it and put it in a cabinet he made. I'd love to have it, but coming and getting it or shipping it would be impractical. Man, the memories. If I was a little closer, I'd buy it. I'm saving this episode to show that to my wife.

[@brickandsole]

haha, Id save it for you but somebody beat you to it. I'll let you know if I come across another one or if someone comments at least what it was called so you could find it.

[@brickandsole]

by the way right after your comment someone posted the following.... That yellow plastic with the circles can be seen on I Dream Of Genie as you enter Major Nelson’s kitchen.

[@MrBUYaLOT]

A good way to look at it, you only got the building cheap because of these issues, and you have someone to help you tackle them. I would view it as exciting instead of dreadful at this point. I hope everything works out.

[@brickandsole]

Thanks man. Yeah it kind of hits me in waves. Good thing is that I am usually an optimist so it quickly passes.

[@tommurphy116]

I would joist jack both sides of compromised horizontal beams. Then square away the roof issue. You could come back to the beams when you find what you need to section those weak areas out. A roof collapse at that area would be a lot of work to repair.

[@brickandsole]

that is kind of the plan, we are going to build some support walls next month.

[@rikb.7772]

you need to shore up that beam asap! On the third floor The sag is also on the roof so water pools, and thus more water leaks in at the location below which is your beam!

[@rikb.7772]

you need shoring poles all the way to the foundation to help lift the roof. the extra load should not go through the bottom beam. I am so glad that you shored up the third floor to roof though! you definitely need to shore up the second and first too.

[@brucemartin8435]

I was just thinking the same thing

[@rikb.7772]

I'm unsure if he shored up the first floor. The vertical load should not be interrupted. I know I'm no structural engineer. I am an electrical engineer.. but we also have to know a little about all the other fields of engineering. That said the loads shifted onto the horizontal 1st floor beams is not good. You needed support right below the point of the new vertical load above.

[@jpelfrey325]

What a cool story you got dude.. Thanks for the vids

[@justnana2256]

I feel for you about the roof leaking. It's always bad before you even know you have a problem. Good luck with it. ❤️👍🇺🇲

[@brickandsole]

So true! hopefully this is the year to get it sorted.!

[@bjcouche1]

If you haven't gotten the Beam replaced yet, here's another idea. If you go to a sawmill to get a beam cut, yes it will be green (wet) and as you've mentioned that's not good. Letting it air dry would take quite a long time for a beam of that size. However there are faster methods for drying limber, A vacuum kiln. It's basically a warm vacuum chamber the size of a small room that lumber is placed. The air in the room is then sucked out. The moisture is literally sucked out the ends of the wood and it is dried in a matter of days compared to what would take months air drying. This is obviously more expensive than air drying but it would be a fast way to get your project moving forward quickly.

[@brickandsole]

Thanks for the tip. Still looking at solutions, there is an Amish sawmill that can product them less than 30 minutes away.

[@feathers352]

I was involved helping restore a three story grist mill with damaged beams. They actually cut a white oak with one of the chain saw attachments to mill a rouge beam. There were three parallel beams. The center one was totally replace while the others were mortised and tendoned and pinned. You might be able to cut the upper beam and mortise and pin it.

[@mwatkins2464]

White oak is the only wood I believe that’s strong enough to hold it. I don’t think they should be tackling this job with no engineering knowledge. Way too much to lose if it gives way. 🙏👍

[@brickandsole]

On the third floor the whole chunk Abe the vertical column is completely rotten out. The mortising might work if it was completely new beams. The jury is still out on how well proceed. My engineer friend is currently giving it some thought. I'll post as soon as I know something.

[@wingerfan1]

I'm looking forward to seeing the progress moving ahead. Sorry that you've had a few setbacks but with your trusty sidekick Bob, you've got this!

[@bascomnextion5639]

Get some acro props under the beams and support the floors beneath aswell as your putting weight on them where it was not designed to have if you have to go with timber use wedges to jam it in place.

[@brickandsole]

Acro Props. Just looked that up, thanks for the keyword. Cheers.

[@tonisallese7173]

That song is FIRE ! 🔥

[@markattardo]

The wise arse in me suggests deleting all or part of the 3rd floor which gives you more useable material for downstairs and make a nice roof top deck. As bad as that looks it's repairable. Getting it supported from the ground up is a good first step. Bob is right about cutting up to see what's happening. I have a bad feeling about what you'll find but it should all be fixable.

[@brickandsole]

Removing portions of floor and doing open concept is not off the table.

[@andrewklahn7899]

That is a very good idea to cut a hole to see daylight to find where the leak is coming from and there it will solve everything😊

[@brickandsole]

the only thing is that water can travel a long way before if finds a place to enter so it might be really far away. but it will definitely increase our chances of finding it.

[@mcgjohn22]

In your area if you can find a steel fabrication shop they can likely make or cut the exact size you need to replace that rotted wood beam. The other thing you guys may want to consider is bolting some long lengths of 1/4 inch steel plate temporarily to the compromised wood until you can properly replace it. Bob has a great idea of cutting some access holes through the layer above to get a better view of where the water is coming from. Another option to consider is getting a bore scope with a longer cable on it to take a look up there in that inbetween space.

[@brickandsole]

There is actually a really great blacksmith shop (most towns don't have them anymore) only 3 blocks from our building. I'll reach out to the owner on my very next trip.

[@rmentofc]

exactly as i suggest, you make the structure with prefabricated galvanized steel. not complicated and durable. the rest of the structure can be wooden, or you can opt for square galvanized steel tubes, and you get yourself a great structure. then you fix the roof. then once the structure is solid and the roof fixed you can definitely take care of the rest. it's an investment and the building after will be much more valuable. keep it up!!!!

[@kevinganje3356]

Hey, Chris. Hey, Bob. Got no suggestions, recommendations, or advice - just hopes that you both stay safe, and that you continue to share this journey!

[@brickandsole]

Thanks Kevin. You are the best!

[@richardbrobeck2384]

Man Bob is a life saver !!

[@brickandsole]

You're telling ME!

[@springy-2112]

Screw jacks on all levels. Cut out replace. It really isn't as bad as it looks. And yes, I've done it myself. 👍✌️❤️

[@brickandsole]

That is what I am hoping.

[@springy-2112]

@coldwarmercantile Bless you Chris. having watched your next video I see you've sured it up nicely. Peace and love brother as always 👍 ✌️ ♥️

[@samueljohnson3445]

Love the song and your boldness to take on this project.

[@snowman3630]

SORRY TO SEE THAT BIG PROBLEM CHRIS, YOU CAN SAND THE OUTER NASTY LAYER OFF T SECOND FLOOR BEAMS AND SUPPORTS AND SEE UNDERNEATH , YOU CAN ALSO CHECK LOCAL LUMBER MILLS FOR REPLACEMENTS , TAKE CARE BROTHER

[@brickandsole]

Yeah, we were thinking the amish sawmills if we go wood instead of steel beams. the jury is still out.

[@user-rx3ew9fq5r]

You could use railroad ties to fabricate new upper and lower saddles and use basement support poles as floor jacks starting on the first floor right above those on the second floor and again on the third floor to hold things up to replace what needs replaced

[@brickandsole]

Yeah the saddles are very angular so they should be no problem to create with a chainsaw, ties have creosote which could be a benefit in this situation.

[@onetime4609]

The yellow plastic circular sheet used to be a mid century room divider. I had blue ones just like it! Awesome find!

[@brickandsole]

Yeah it seemed really familiar but I couldn't place where I had seen them back in the day.

[@paul.mcguinness6075]

Looks like a fairly straight forward fix for the post and beam problem. Scarf joints can be installed and then you can save most of the beams. The Posts can be salvaged as well. Easy Peasy!

[@richardvinsen2385]

In about 1970, my mother had shutters installed to block off the half wall from the kitchen to the dining room. The windows of the shutters was the exact same orange sheet that you found. We lived in a house in the suburbs, not a mobile home.

[@brickandsole]

That dates it then!

[@sparks869]

Chris got lucky he caught this at the last second. I didn't realize how bad the roof is still leaking. I just assumed after that valley was fixed, there were no major leaks left. Any big leaks with those dark wet spots in the roof should be high priority or you will be doing this many many times over.

[@brickandsole]

Yeah this is clear on the west end the weird thing is there are no valleys around it, but water might run from a distance to find a hole, that valley is 300 feet away though.

[@MikeKing-qm8ie]

You may have to start on the first floor and build temporary walls on each side of the post, then move to the second floor and build the same directly above the lower ones until you are up to the bad spot. This will carry the load from the roof to the concrete floor. Then you can level and replace what you need to. I am not an expert just someone that has always been interested in these things. Your engineer friend will get you started in the right direction.

[@brickandsole]

Yeah that is kind of the direction we are leaning.

[@mwatkins2464]

The small GE condenser fan motor you showed is from a very old refrigerator . I’ve replaced them several times years ago. Before you start messing with the sagging rotten beams and moving the support away from the original you better talk to an engineer to make sure the load can be carried wherever you’re putting them. you can’t tell if a beam is rotten by hitting it with your hand. You can sometimes use a pointed screwdriver. Good luck but mark my words you’re asking for trouble and when it goes it’s going to be quick.👍🙏

[@brickandsole]

oh you broke my heart! It wasn't one of those fans behind the steam radiator heaters! Oh well. I'll pull in as much competent help as I can. I like to try to do things on my own but I recognize that I can't fumble my way through everything.

[@mwatkins2464]

@ you and I think just alike. I always look at something I found and see different things that it would work for or look great in. That’s why I enjoy your videos so much. I don’t like throwing anything away because someone might need it or I could make something out of it. 👍🙏

[@RYANGilbert-f8t]

You could have a metal fabricator make a bolt on metal saddle that uses long bolts that go through both sides of the plate. There are many building retofitted like this in grand rapids michigan. Have them desing it so that there is a place to put a jack on both sides to lift up the sadle into place.

[@brickandsole]

Yes there is a blacksmiths shop that could do this 3 blocks away from the building.

[@annberlin5811]

Glad to see you got help

[@BoogUwU]

I have done post and beam replacement in turn of the century manufacturing and warehouse structure. First cross brace the posts on the 2nd and 3rd floor and strap the beams up. Starting from the first floor you need to build temporary stud walls on either side of the beam, centering the studs beneath the joists over head and about 16" from the edge of the beam (depending on how far the rot is on the joists on the 2nd and 3rd floor). Add cross bracing on the studs so they can't blow out. Now that the ceiling joists of the first floor are even more supported go to the second floor. Attach 4x4s to the ceiling joists on either side of the beam and use post jacks to apply pressure. Go to the third floor and install 4x4s to the ceiling joists. Install post jacks and apply pressure. Now you will go between the 2nd and 3rd floor, slowly raising the post jacks. The 3rd floor will go the fast because it has the least weight above it, but you cant go crazy jacking until the 2nd floor ceiling joists are jacked level. Jack the 2nd floor to level, and install temporary stud walls. The stud walls should be centered above the temporary stud walls on the 1st floor. Now go to the 3rd floor. Jack and install temporary stud walls. Now you can replace your posts and beams. You can use dimensional lumber, a polyurethane glue, and fasteners to build a new beam, or use laminate lumber. Sister your rotten floor joists.

[@DanielSilva-ws5cq]

Voice of experience

[@maxwebster7572]

"TODAY"

[@HamiltonMechanical]

dude I'm an electrical teacher at a trade school in Knoxville Tennessee and I'd kill to have one of those old electrical panels! That's amazing!

[@brickandsole]

there are actually some spectacular ones in the building. as tall as me and full of beautiful copper routing.

[@jeffarchibald3837]

This is really pretty cheap and simple. Jack up the 2nd floor and replace the bad wood with a plate steel (1/4''?) sandwich or plate steel U shape. Whatever passes code. Same third floor, but also replace the bad part of the vertical beam with steel.

[@brickandsole]

Yeah, I think both actually. At the moment it is looking like we are going to go the steel direction.

[@RobertTetlow]

The outlets in the metal boxes are newer than 1965 because they have a d shaped ground hole. Outlets before 65 were just two wire (no safety ground). I remember when everyone had to retrofit their buildings to accomocate the grounding plugs.

[@rmentofc]

I strongly suggest that you replace the wooden load-bearing parts that are rotten and broken with prefabricated galvanized steel beams. if the supporting structure is made with this structure you shouldn't have any problems. the cost is not particularly high.

[@brickandsole]

thats on the ticket for early spring. We did temporary shore up to get through the winter.

[@PierogiInspired]

We had a bar back in the day with a big panel of that "coke bottle glass" across the front of it

[@MK-Farm-Michigan]

You need some tall floor Jack's crank them up to beam. It will at least stabilize it. Get on Market place looks for used floor jacks.

[@gaylerobison9518]

OMG I love the original song!!

[@brickandsole]

Thanks! it's made by AI. But I hope to post lots more moving forward.

[@MiloEstrada-vm5to]

get you a couple of house jacks those will handle the load

[@brickandsole]

Yeah I think we got it I'll be posting more about it soon. I didn't have any handy but the beams we use once we got them set seem to be pretty good. But you are right when leaks are involved steel is much better

[@johnkranz4004]

Definitely a Big project you have on your hands

[@MK-Farm-Michigan]

Chris did you try a wood mill? Or do you have Amish in the area. They usually have Lumber Yards.

[@brickandsole]

we do. there is an amish mill 30 minutes away. I just worried that the material wouldn't be kiln dried.

[@RogerEbert-vy5pv]

Once the demolition of the other factory starts. The salvage rights most likely will belong to the demolition company. Love the Duct Tape Dreams song.

[@brickandsole]

Great tip. I am going to stay on top of it. The new owner and I have some mutual friends so that is good for maintaining contact.

[@Aaron-vq2lc]

Fingers and toes are crossed that you can get the beams and posts to repair your building.

[@brickandsole]

Thanks Aaron. One way or another, kicking and screaming well bring it back in line!

[@l.r.dizing498]

Podziwiam odwagę tego dużego projektu. Dont be poussy fix it, there are many way not to $$$ and secure for the bilding.💖

[@patricksloan79]

That glass you are handling is called bottle amber or rondel breaks easy and will cut you severely was a glazer for 45 yrs Handel with care

[@brickandsole]

I am wondering if it was imitation because it was flexible plastic. Cool to have the name of the look to associate with it. Thanks!

[@edwardsierpowski3839]

Put a CD of your songs on your website for merch to get some funds in for your emergencies.

[@thethirdrail8397]

I could put music to a lot of these videos. Breathing not an option : YMCA : Village Peale 1975 Crashing Down(This Video): Going Down : The Monkees 1965 : Colpix Records The Elevator Videos : Elevator Operator : Gene Clark(Solo - After The The Byrds) : 1966 ; Columbia records(USA) 1966 :m - CBS(UK) - 1966 the Video Explaining why CWM does not upload many videos(Because he flays Back and forth to Germany? If I remember correctly) : Leaving(On A Jet Plane) : John Denver : RCA Records : 1966

[@brickandsole]

Good idea, when I get a collection I'll likely do that!

[@brickandsole]

Good ones! haha.

[@Leed216]

I try to look at the positive, that in such a huge building with so many beams and posts that there is only one that is really bad. A few acro props to temporarily keep it from collapsing might do the trick. So wish you could get a crew in there to at least get all the cardboard out.

[@brickandsole]

Thats a really great point. It could be much worse. Cardboard definitely needs to go along will all the other stuff.

[@andrewbillingsley9377]

I wonder if the vertical beam could be trimmed of its rot and used to replace the horizontal beam and then use 4 4x4 bolted together. To recreate the vertical post. Just an idea

[@oldtop4682]

That's going to be a challenging (and expensive) permanent fix. Definitely get a structural engineer to advise you, as these things aren't easy, and pretty complex. You could be replacing the pillars from the ground up here. Yeah, putting a hole up through the roof to identify where it's leaking isn't a terrible idea - poke a stick up there and tape it down so it stays. Problem is, it will identify the area that there's damage, and get you into the general location of said leak, but water travels. Brace yourself for likely stripping the roof off in that area (or a couple spots) and rebuilding the underlayment and such. As for the cross joists that are only rotten part way down. There's some rule of thumb for this based upon percentage of the beam that is damaged. Good news is, you can cut out the bad parts and rip a new insert piece to glue and nail into that as a repair. Last thought. You should have put an old mattress downstairs so when you went through the floor you would buffer the fall. Better yet, a trampoline. And have a camera on it! Telling you, you'ld be a Tic-Toc sensation! Kidding of course, but please bring some wood up there to span the rotting floor. I really don't want you falling through the ceiling brother.

[@brickandsole]

Thanks as always for the practical wisdom and tips OldTop!

[@Travis141123]

Worked in a mill like that decades ago, they had 2 guys who did nothing but building repairs. Roof, floors, windows, beams, masonry. Constant fight against decay. Another guy and I would get a tip on access to areas that were unused, it was a great adventure to go explore. When the electrician died suddenly, there was a panic seeing everything he did for the last 40 years wasn't up to code nor changes documented. I'd bet it was the better part of a million dollars to rewire the mill; they had a big outfit come in and work day and night to refit the building. Scrappers all but camped out at the dumpster.

[@limelightcinemagroup2148]

I would get a bid from a roofing company get a bunch of beds because if something happens you have a warranty on the roof and you don't have to worry about it in the future

[@brickandsole]

yeah, its just the matter of cost!

[@adrianopaparoni5584]

Nice tunes man.

[@brickandsole]

Thanks they add a bit to the Timelapse segments.

[@Flower3394]

Chris, i think you should watch Jenna Phipps on youtube. You and bob may get some ideas of how to support that beam. Jenna is up in canada. She bought an abandoned Mid Century Modern home that has a lot of water damage from the roof. Which is similar to what you are dealing with. They had to disassemble their house and rebuild it. Beams were used. To re-support the roof. And now they are rebuilding their house back to original. Maybe some of their issues can help you with yours. Maybe it can also help you make suggestions to your friend who is going to help you.

[@brickandsole]

I looked her up and watched a bit. Nice to see other similar channels. Though mine is much less polished. Thanks for the tip and support!

[@andrewbryan1036]

There were used in trailers and homes for cabinets

[@brickandsole]

somebody said you could see it on the intro of the show I dream of jeannie. Cool! Lots of people mentioned. cabinets too. So I guess we have it figured out. neat thing to find.

[@brianseibert3080]

The sag creates a puddle (for a lack of a better word) on the roof. That water has to go somewhere and if there is a nail hole or anything it gets in. If you lift the roof up where it belongs even maybe a 1/4 inch high as it will settle once you finish working it, it will help with the leaking. Then you just need to find the small holes and seal them up.

[@brickandsole]

yeah, thats what we found, will be part of the solution to remedy it.

[@feathers352]

Are there any Amish in the area? They could have the milling for making beams and maybe even help with the install. You could crib it up on each side of the posts and reinforce it until you can replace the beam. That might buy you some time until you get the roof done to stop the leak.

[@brickandsole]

Yeah there is one 30 minutes away and that is on our short list of possible directions to go with it.

[@mtgirrl]

You could put load bearing walls under the sagging sections column to column...

[@brickandsole]

that is exactly what we have planned for step 2.

[@sometea4741]

The third floor yeah..can see the joists sagging yikes. could place parallel emergency supports in while removing the rotten beams and uprights...or, would it be Possible to reengineer the 2nd floor (area with the soft joist) to open it up making that section open to the 3rd floor Gut that section? Basically turning the back area into an open atrium.

[@brickandsole]

yeah, I will be posting part 3 soon, we have it sorted til the spring when we have to make the hard decisions.

[@phillucinda8735]

How tall are those ceilings? Maybe you could double up a couple 6 X 6 treated beams.

[@brickandsole]

they are about 11.5 - 12 feet I can't exactly recall. Yeah we can make beams or use steel the jury is still out.

[@MrJeep75]

Get some screw jacks

[@robertsabella7298]

Bobs idea is the only way that is feasible. Then you can replace the beam and post. Steel is good but the weight is substantial. So I would go with wood. I'm a contractor for over 45 years

[@stumblefish360]

I was in a building once and the half I was not in fell down, trust me that was a horrifying experience. That is an industrial building it's function over form. Just like when they replaced that other wood beam with a steel I beam, I don't think there's any shame in doing it that way now.

[@MK-Farm-Michigan]

Amish have builders to they can help fix as well. You know the beams are fixable. I have seen it done on my Cheatue channels.

[@jamesbrausch2477]

In this video you keep going up to 3rd floor to clean the rotten wood, what is the status of the elevator did that finally get fixed to use.

[@brickandsole]

we were able to determine that all components work but we still need to figure out some electrical signal stuff. Hopefully this spring we will have it going.

[@Yutani_Crayven]

The longer you leave it like that, the worse it will become, because the roof sagging will obviously lead to more and more water collecting in the space right above this pillar.

[@andrewpeters3424]

Big Jack up job there m8😮

[@doubletrouble0833]

The song about the beam was awesome… you rock!!😊

[@brickandsole]

Thanks for the comment and support!

[@gesperrteruser5223]

Renovate first structure, then the other things. Maybe also possible to make old beam stronger with fixing left and right wood, like they do with old roof structure

[@CockleDooDooPie-vx8gs]

When my dad had a ceiling sag we gave temp supports until proper support could be completed. Ya don’t want it getting worse causing more problems.

[@martinhickey7966]

I really like what you're doing and I also own an old abandoned building, albeit much, much, MUCH smaller so I'm very interested in your process and progress. My comment would be to include less talking/explanation of every little thing you're doing and more just video of your work and progress. Some of your content is painfully slow. (Prying off paneling and taking 5 steps to the side just to set your pry bar down on a ladder just to go pick it up again is not an efficient way to work.) Try to have a mindset of efficiency to speed up your progress while you're actually doing work. I'm sure it's all overwhelming but when it comes to things like the rotten posts and beams, it's nothing to lose sleep over. It's all solve-able once you just start and rely on the knowledge that can come from people or an internet search. I'm impressed and inspired by your courage in undertaking this worthwhile missing. All the best to you.

[@martinhickey7966]

Mission, not "missing". Dang spell check.

[@HeatherLynch555]

The song ! EPIC ❤

[@gordvan]

Sinking Ship song is amazing!

You can say you did not put all that wet garbage there but you did buy it so now its all yours.

[@maryjanewahl3455]

I love the song!

[@sharlettedavidson81]

Hey Chris ….hi Bob, I will be sending you bubble gum, super glue and gorilla tape would be best..🧐 Yesh…I am stating the obvious it’s serious but bottom line… You can fix it all you want… Until you locate that leak and get it plugged up and fixed on top it’s just gonna keep on happening so once you get it fixed you Gotta be sure you correct the problem. Sad is that all sounds a leak is a leak . And it’s too darn bad that these people aren’t contacting back and being kind because it’s gonna cost them more to send it to the landfill then have you come and pick up what you need it’s really unfortunate that people can be this way Sending good vibes guys…many prayers for great blessings with your building Chris…✨🙏✨💖

[@AdventuresofAwesomeJoe]

hey. Just wondering... why not plexiglass to replace the windows or a large plexiglass panel to protect from vandals'?