Crawler Canyon Quick(re)view: 1.9" ProLine Maxxis Trepador (G8)

[@jackhando5465]

Your Pro-Line voice came out again. Absolutely love when you test anything Pro-Line!!

[@meirdeaph]

😂😂

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I don't know what I was expecting. There's the Pro-Line thing, colliding perfectly with the Trepador thing. Just buy Flat Irons. They look better, and perform almost identically. Better yet, buy some Tusks. They double up on looks and performance.

[@jackhando5465]

Canyon favorite..Canyon trails!!

[@swolodkin]

The only reference that comes to mind from "we're gonna need a softer insert" is "we're gonna need a bigger boat" from, of course, JAWS. As for the tires, I have no experience with them. What I can say is the reason I value your analysis is more for your interpretation of the FEEL and FEELING you get when running them even more than the numeric scores you assign. When you are (re)viewing a product you really like I can hear the genuine excitement and enthusiasm come through in your voice and words. To me, that is the factor that puts something over-the-top, regardless of manufacturer, make, model, compound, series, or whatever. I want to try and experience that same excitement and joy so that's what I end up buying. More power to you!

[@Andy_Yates]

In 2023 sorrca rules, 4.9 is a small class3 tire now. Max in class2 is 4.75 and minimum tire diameter in class3 is 4.76. A sub-5" class3 is probably what some folks are looking for. I could see going for the Trep over Flat Iron if you're running a longer wheelbase

[@TurkeyGamer47]

Sorrca has more rules than 1:1….that’s crazy 😜

[@g-man329]

I love watching the Sendero on the rocks

[@g-man329]

Does it have the factory ESC

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Heavens no! Fusion SE 1200. The only power source I recommend for the Sendero SE. It's perfect.

[@billtruett8593]

I’ll have to say your commitment to getting up and yes it was cold and windy today is awesome. I had to get up not so early and change the clutch shoes on my 1/8 buggy and was definitely not as peppy as your demeanor and then going out and practicing. But it definitely was better than not having Toy cars.

[@TheRCBuildersPost]

I like proline predator swampers and hyrax. I have literally every proline tire made except the trepador and flat irons. The swampers and hyrax perform well on my course. Duratrax does ok on my course but not the best. Jconcepts is where it's at though as far as performance vs cost. Love the tire and servo testing videos!

[@rc_amigos]

Im with ya, on the expense. I do love the pro x a ton! I want to try the tusk for sure and the holds. the thing I do like about the prolines is the scale looks. I get pretty unclose and tight in my shots so seeing the 1:1 brand is nice. I used to like the RC4wd pro x's too. out here the dirt is pretty wet and the rocks can be both smooth and jagged so the wider lug really helps with clearing and clawing for traction. I agree with you, they seem... ok... if you are going for that look but I feel like they are kind of in-between looks. that pretty friend vibe.. could be hot, but mostly pretty... lol

[@corydehaan8349]

Haha, I feel you needed a snickers bar today!

[@HVT03]

I got 2.2 Axial Treps some time ago (R35 compound i think) and man, I wish I never bought them, they were 75 bucks a set and never worked at least well. Wish I had found your channel sooner, thanks to your videos I know wayyyy more than a year ago

[@CrawlerCanyon]

This is the first Trepador that’s worked. I think the lug pattern just isn’t very good. Too tightly packed, maybe? Duratrax Approach is at least “Trepador inspired,” but with a lot more open space and that tire was great.

[@HVT03]

@@CrawlerCanyon I also have fake approaches and I FOR SURE would choose them over the Treps (my approaches are glued to plastic rim, idk if I should try to sell them or try to unglue them)

[@CrawlerCanyon]

@@HVT03 I have had pretty bad luck de-bonding Duratrax tires. I have a set of Approach and a set of 2.2 Showdowns that don't look great. It's like the glue and the sidewall melt at the same temperature.

[@greggarrison6982]

I’m waiting patiently for the canyon certified top gear esque tire ranking list. Which makes you the stig of toy tires.

[@vb9300]

I would like to see some 2.2 stuff kind sir. Especially for 10lb rigs. I watched the canyon trail 2.2 vid and cant seem to find anything else. 3d antifoams vs traxxas dual stage, injoras, hairbuns, ect. Youre great at these tests and seem fair, therefore youre the man for the job for us heavy rig fellas.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

You can also find 2.2 Ruptures (real and clones) , Tusks, Ottsix USD Sticky, HB/HPI Rover, Hyrax LP, and a handful of junk tires (named and nameless.) I only have a handful of 2.2 builds, so there’s not as much opportunity to test the big tires. That, and the only rig over 10lbs is Jolly Green, and he has 6 wheels. I’ve been saying for awhile that I need to build something on AR60s. I guess I should.

[@vb9300]

@@CrawlerCanyon My trx4 Hightrail is right at 9lbs. Looking for a good foam/ dual stage/ antifoam ect for the 2.2. I have done the dual hairbun to my other trx4 (awesome). Trying to find that same setup which I can run wet as well, any ideas for as newbie?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

@@vb9300 Lafeina makes a closed-cell inner 2.2 insert amzn.to/3Nk46BD but the inner part is a bit undersized (barely bigger than the 1.9 Timtin,) so you would likely need 3 wraps of polyethylene to fill out a 2.2 CT. I'm running them as-is with the open-cell outers in Clank, because the OE foams in the 2.2 CTs were too firm for him.

[@vb9300]

@@CrawlerCanyon thank you for your time, i know tou are busy. I will check these out.

[@derrickhays3627]

Didn't see them doing that well, I was at my LHS today and boy are you right we are paying the "rock tax" I didn't see a pair of crawler tires under $30 and shocks! Except for the desert lizards no pair of shocks under $41! You keep doing you I'll watch and say thank you.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

As long as we can get 2660s on Amazon for $26 a pair and GTS from Jenny's for $42 a set, things are borderline okay.

[@derrickhays3627]

@@CrawlerCanyon Amen brother

[@themountain59]

You should change your LHS 😉

[@lastcreations8845]

extra height worked VERY well on baseline, and like the look of the fuller tire in the wheelwell for some reason on him. Yeah like you said high performing for sure, better then i would have thought.

[@bucketofboltsrc9875]

I love your tire reviews, great video, I have many set of proline tires, my favourite is the Flat Iron. You 're say about cost of $33 a pair, that is $54 a pair plus freight to us.

[@Tyrells_Tiny_Trucks]

I've really enjoyed seeing the pro-line options go up against the canyon standards in the last months. I wondered for so long, and now I have my answers on performance. I really don't get all the griping about the price. In the grand scheme of building a rig, whats 15$ difference between parts for something you like for a reason other than pure performance. Those decisions happen on a larger scale all the time. If pro-line charges 7 dollars more for a liscensed, USA made (are they still?) product with a premium look and feel, it doesen't bother me none. I chalk that up to personal preference. My jconcepts and Pro-line tires have both held up for years of crawling, and they mostly all work great.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Because you're not getting anything for that additional 7 dollars. Licensing is nonsense, and I'm fully behind JConcepts method of "looks kinda like the 1:1 thing, but named something else" if it means it saves the consumer money. I've yet to meet a tire that had a bump in performance based on the licensed font on the sidewall. The same goes for bodies, where I think the mfrs. of the full-size should be happy for the advertising, instead of driving the cost of $1 in polycarbonate up to $60+. Pro-Line has no basis for that pricing other than their own determination that the market will bear it.

[@AndreMartins-ul7xi]

After going wayyyyy back in your quick views, got lucky on a set of showdown on bargain bin savings 😮‍💨they do no fuck around goin up these damn rocks

[@CrawlerCanyon]

One of the worst Horizon-ings Horizon has every Horizon'd us with was canceling Duratrax. I don't think there was a bad tire in the whole lineup.

[@meirdeaph]

Awesome ❤

[@klampykixx]

Hello mr canyon , have you had the opportunity to test an older set of Axial 1.9 Trepadors? Id love to see how they compare to the proline ones you have here

[@FaithSaraG]

I can't believe you missed the opportunity to say that you approved this review with trepidation.

[@evintacy7272]

I’m still waiting on buying some megalithics and the famous ruptures never owned set but want to and soon I sell some my tires which are a lot to the Rc chop shop hopefully I’ll get those two! ❤ but there has been many times in past bought a tire just cause looks or is the real tire on the vehicle trying to replicate!! Guilty but now days performance is first,,hard beat the proline crawlers in West Virginia ❤… Landlines do well tusk are close to if not crawlers here! Great review my friend 💯🤘🏻

[@brianmorrison2846]

Anybody got a Capra? I'm thinking the little Revolver would fit it nice.

[@Shakermt]

I do and I have a yellowjacket for it, just haven't got it in yet as I need to order a rhino.

[@tommyhogye6068]

Just sayin because I heard you liked smaller tires….. Try out the Toyo open country rts in G8, not the new open county’s they came out with but the older model that is a g8 in 4.45, it’s one to check out

[@garrettrujillo1476]

You should give the new KLR V2 a review!

[@down1up579]

Wouldn’t the rollover be more of a center of gravity thing? I mean take any truck and it’s got a tipping point no matter what tires you run. I feel like it did pretty good on the side hill and you’re docking the tire because of it.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Tires can be, and generally are, directly impactful on the tendency of a rig to rollover-- especially abruptly. I have idea why so many people are coming to the (apparently) perceived aid of the G8 Trepador, but here we are. It's an absolutely decent tire, but even in "pure scale" tires, there's at least half a dozen tires that do it better. It's also 4.76", so it can't be run in SORRCA Class 2, meaning it's a Class 3 tire-- meaning someone in that class is going to be running something like LP Tusks, and no Trepador is going to stand a chance. You buy the Trepador for the look. I don't really see any other reason. It's sitting at 27th out of 35. If I gave the Trep two free bonus points, it would move to 18th. What's the point?

[@RBE_RcBikeEtc]

I am thinking about it after watching your video. I am thinking about 3 models. proline maxxis, proline flatiron, jetko conqueror. Which model do you recommend?

[@RBE_RcBikeEtc]

Additionally, gmade mt1904 is also considered.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Conqueror, then Flat Iron. I don’t see the point of the Trepador, unless you have to have the look. The Conquerors did great here. Lug is a little short if you have a more mixed surface, for that I’d say Flat Iron.

[@RBE_RcBikeEtc]

thanks for your recommendation. i select the conqueror!! these days, your videos are interesting that i keep watching youtube!! very very thanks!!

[@stevebuchanan5773]

I think alot is the look, people want scale tires i really like the trep look and want a set. I feel like the pl tires have been 32 dollars for like 10 years also havent gone up. Love the vid

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Well, if you have to have Trepadors (for whatever reason) it's these or nothing. Every other one tested has been some shade of terrible.

[@stevebuchanan5773]

Bigger tire has more contact patch although not by much but maybe thats all you need

[@archerash6695]

Seen 2 experienced guy reviews of this tire and they both said, long break in time.. and everything overall performs better. Just take awhile.. probably 4 hours minimum or so..

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Virtually every tire-- discounting those that are born terrible-- get better as the tread feathers in. So what's my motivation to tell people to go out and buy a 92-score tire that they're going to need to break in for several hours, when they can buy a different PL tire that's a 95 out of the bag? (or a better tire in a better compound for less money) Treps are Treps and I still can't figure out why everyone takes them so personally. While they stand as the highest-scoring Trepador, they're still the lowest scored ProLine tire I've ever tested. The Trep pattern just doesn't translate to scale.

[@distilledmilk2441]

I want proline to make a 4.19 trepador so I can run it on my class 1

[@Gibsonlife573]

I gave it a 9.6 on slick Rock before you said anything so I wasn't that far off they're not that great in the smaller scale I'll tell you that

[@YourBoyBlue2]

First. Great video. You know I've got love... but I feel your bias for Proline might be effecting your score when testing Proline tires. Just sayin.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I'll take a set of discontinued Deep Woods over anything from Banning. Because I don't want to pay that licensing premium for a tire with the performance of something that costs less. In terms of performance per $$, ProLine loses every contest. Is G8 better than X2S3? Dear god yes. Is it as good as Jconcepts Green or HB/HPI pink? Not even close. G8 is a tick better than the ol' Duratrax C3, and Duratrax was hawking tires at $22 a pair. So I would defend by saying that now, having tested most of the PL catalog against others, my feelings toward PL are more justified than ever. I am softening on the bodies. If ProLine is still making them (and who knows, really) then something changed. That bug body is hella nice.

[@smokingwraith9990]

Rated Joyless

[@The_RC_Family]

Do I say first? I mean this has never happened before!

[@neildaniels5443]

Ive been playing Destiny for nearly 10 years 😅😂😊😢 on da superior XBOX sorry i couldn't help myself.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Two of my favorite game series of all time are Gran Turismo and Ratchet & Clank. So Xbox never stood a chance.

[@neildaniels5443]

@@CrawlerCanyon I loved Halo and Forza so......yeah.... different strokes fa different folks, btw I loved dat series aswell.

[@neildaniels5443]

Been a gamer since pong and Atari, makes me feel old (51) 😆 🤣

[@2Geek2bChic]

Borderlands was way better than Destiny. That game made me lol so many times! 🤓

[@CrawlerCanyon]

And it's like... not even close. Me and a buddy both picked up Destiny after it had been out a looooong while, for around that $20 greatest hits price. And we just kept trying to like it. But the world they created was just... much like the Trepador-- joyless.

[@2Geek2bChic]

@@CrawlerCanyon To this day "I smell delicious" is still one of my all time favorite videogame quotes. 😂

[@CrawlerCanyon]

@@2Geek2bChic Heads, I win! Tails are butt handles!

[@2Geek2bChic]

@@CrawlerCanyon 🤣

[@thekracken4572]

Lol your bais against proline really shows. I'm pretty sure you didn't even want to test these. They went up slick rock with out issue and you give them a 9.3. Lol

[@CrawlerCanyon]

They're the best Trep out there right now, but the Trep is still a mediocre tread pattern. There are plenty of tires with more consistent forward drive and maneuverability to back it up. Whatever score these got, that's what they deserved. The bottom line is that G8 is never going to be the best compound, and when paired to a less-than-optimal tread pattern, said tire is only going to do so well.

[@CasperRc81]

The motivator is replicating 1:1. I enjoy 1:1 rock crawling and most the time when seeing these tires 1:1 there intense and usually are found on nice 1:1 builds. If these tires are performing as seen here 90% prob buy and like. Now your SORCCA die hards will tear. But like you and me I could careless about rules, in this hobby. Fact is if your trying to pull the toughest lines out there you’ll pic a more worthy tire which IMO hardly look scale or other other lower costs line killer tires. There’s so many options out there it’s almost not even worth reviewing tires. Or foams. So many choices but really most tires all perform similar when having these compounds. And how many compounds are there. Also hard to review one of two tire compounds but same make size and mold. Also your the only one that can properly narrate tire/foam reviews for so long and still provide education and entertainment.

[@fuse557]

Look dude, let me just break break down these feelings that you have. You don't want to like proline tires, you hated proline tires for a long time. Proline turned you down to go to the prom. Proline was way cooler than you at the high school dance. But you secretly fantasize about Proline. You want Proline. You need Proline. Proline is your dream girl. These other knock off side chicks can never be Proline. You LOVE Proline!

[@CrawlerCanyon]

That’s like the Bizarro Dimension of my feelings toward ProLine. They overprice and underdeliver. We get the true double-whammy with ProLine, where we have to pay for their name (for what?) and the licensing of whatever scale thing they’re hawking. ProLine has zero cachet as far as I’m concerned, as they don’t offer anything we can’t get elsewhere for less. Why do folks voluntarily pay more to get less, just because of the name on the sidewall? This applies to RC4WD as well, who make like 70 tires and only a handful of them are any good.

[@swolodkin]

Wow! that's super presumptuous, unless your joking. Do we really need to go here?

[@TurkeyGamer47]

Reality…who is just running on concrete? Most r on dirt and Roots an rocks🤷🏻‍♂️ js

[@TurkeyGamer47]

Send them to me and I will test them on the trail….

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Well, it's not concrete, but thanks for playing. And the requirements for a trail tire are : fit the vehicle, don't get loaded with mud. End of list.

[@ranchocortez]

You start the video with a bad perspective against proline

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Trepador is the worst of the tread patterns (in 1:1 as well) and while ProLine got the best showing of every Trep tested so far, still not great. Trep pattern is poor, and G8 ain't a world-beater. I didn't get into the line to love companies unconditionally, so forgive me for having something resembling expectations. I think these scored the lowest of every ProLine tire I've tested.

[@taeymansom]

destiny absolutely flopped and should have been left face down.