Crawler Canyon Quick(re)view: Rhino V80A outrunner ESC

My definition of "quick" might not fall in line with others. But I've got you know, things to say. I call these a "quickview" because it covers unboxing and initial testing. It does not speak to durability, longevity, etc.
This is the "quick" review of the Rhino V80A ESC for outrunner.
Rhino V80A ESC (AliExpress) www.aliexpress.us/item/325680...
Rhino ESC files page rhinoesc.com/files/
Flash Hobby 3548 900kv (not plug and play, you need to grind a flat for the pinion) amzn.to/3IsHRHN
IG: crawlercanyon

[@paulschryer9571]

- This channel "IS" [The Best]... I have seen in my 3-years of watchin' crawlin', on "Their-Tube" (Y.T.) !!!! No sales, no BS, and plenty of GREAT KNOW-HOW and DETAILS, cuz it is the details that are most important !!! 👌😁👏 - Thankyou. 😉

[@independentmind1977]

Thanks for the overview, I flew drones in the past and programmed these little ESC's - we're just scratching the surface with what flight ESC units can do, they are incredibly powerful and can handle a LOT of power due to the demands of flight. The drone community has put out custom firmware that controls a myriad of settings and is VERY granular (with a poper GUI), I hope someone in our community has the ability to do the same (there is a firmware out there, but it takes some tech knowlege and soldering skills to get this going) these little units are incredible. Don't get me started on those motors!

[@ericsmith3317]

YES!! I BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ESC REVIEW!

[@reprieverc]

Great review and your personality just gained you a new sub keep up the great work man and crawl on 🤘

[@cybron7089]

I have purchased this esc. It works great. Smooth driving, good dragbrake. I would buy again.

[@Brian_Mowry__BMOW71]

Nice to see another ESC option for the outrunner motors. I currently do not have an outrunner motor in my fleet, but may have to give this one a try. Nice review as always!

[@CrawlerCanyon]

You need to get an outrunner immediately. If you don't have a rig for one, build it. I'm running a tiny little 3530 in Yella, and the throttle response is unreal. I might have more outrunners than brushed now. I think. Maybe.

[@nj2033]

Fantastic video as always!!!! Thank you!

[@brentlykins7281]

Sir, thank you for this review. I’m very interested in this type of setup. I have the Hobbywing PRO but would like to try an outrunner next. Still in the research phase though. So thanks again for a great review. I like the product / bench time and the performance time on the rocks. I’m stilling learning about this type of setup but starting to really like it. Absolutely love the torque with stupid low speed control.

[@Alexander-mt5fm]

thank you for a great quickview. I just ordered a Rhino, and I have a feeling I won't be dissapointed.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I think you'll be pretty happy with it. I'm up to three of them, and the number probably won't stop there.

[@Alexander-mt5fm]

Wow! this esc is amazing. Just got back from testing it and I have already ordered 2 more for my other lcg babies. Thank you again for a great review. I had to rewatch this to see how to connect and configure it on my computer.

[@brianmassey7563]

I love that rig. He's so good, and now it's beyond reason how good your class 1 is. I'm about to press buy on that ESC now. I have a HH setup with their Crawlmaster mini and the 2250 micro outrunner and it's great. I see that 3BRC are listing a "trail proof" black jacket outrunner. Water, rocks, and mud resistant with a 1 year warranty "no matter what you do to it". But it's sensored and wants a Castle ESC in sensored mode to run. OR you can get the YellowJacket outrunner that is more comp spec and sensor-less, but says good enough for the trails and 2 speed rigs...AND " Lifetime warranty: We warranty our Yellowjackets for life with the orignial purchaser. This includes bearings, repair, water damage, or replacement regardless of how it happened. The motor must be non-functioning." Very intrigued.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I've tended to opt for the $20-30 drone motors, grind a flat for the pinion, and just hammer it. But the lifetime replacement from 3BRC is certainly intriguing. I haven't killed an outrunner yet, but you can be all but sure that I will at some point.

[@idiot_RC]

The yellow jacket is phenomenal. I've got one paired with a CrawlMaster v2 and it's my second favorite combo behind my Riot XL.

[@robertpullen515]

I just received my ESC thanks crawler canyon

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I'm about ready to order another so I can get some proper drag brake in my 400mm wheelbase Ryft-converted-to-crawler.

[@rcarty419]

First I’ve seen these look like cool option!

[@rccrawlingaddict207]

The added strength of the servo seems to be a sweet change!

[@tomandrews5392]

I got one set it up used that weekend at comp come home and ordered 2 80 amp and a mini 70 amp for the 380 motor rigs..

[@Lee.gRC27]

Awesome thanks for sharing

[@miniboom007]

I have the SANWA MT-4S Transmitter and it would not calibrate properly. Another words it would not pick up the neutural. I changed the throttle type. Nothing. So I tried the FLYSKY FS-G7P transmitter and it worked on the first try. Just thought I would throw it out there. But works great once you get it work. I purchased 2 more. Now its a waiting game. Thanks for the video.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

On your Sanwa, dial the throttle trim up to like +90 before you calibrate. Daphne the Sport runs on an even older Airtronics MX-3X, and it was the same story. Something to do with the older radios having too big of a deadband or something weird related to the throttle. So it's not unique to the Rhino (she runs an AGI Ninja) but something about old radios and AM32s.

[@miniboom007]

@@CrawlerCanyon I ordered 2 more Rhinos. When they come in I will try your suggestion. I already my current Rhino soldered up and installed. Thanks again.

[@miniboom007]

@@CrawlerCanyon I managed to get it to work with MT-4S (Sanwa). I set the trim throttle to 100% and Sub-Trim Throttle to 42%. Than set (Throttle) EPA-H 120% (MAX) and EPA-L 10%. And it worked. Yes, the band width has something to do with it. I hope that makes sense to you and helps others. Now I have 2 more cars to do.

[@troypostie1252]

ARE YOU SERIOUS! Ive been eyeing that esc up and thinking nah can't be that good. IN THE CART SHE GOES! Ty sir

[@teknoman117]

Do these have bidirectional dshot support for reading the RPM? I know AM32 has it normally, but it doesn't seem to work with my controller...

[@keldonator]

Blackjacket 2000 is advertised as a waterproof outrunner. I hope someone makes a quiet sensored esc for that motor soon. I want to shorty my vrd

[@jasonkearns3041]

That's exactly where I'm at. I want the 2000s but castle is the only option.

[@keldonator]

@@jasonkearns3041 I have the castle and the Blackjacket now. I don't mine the sound, it's not as bad as it sounds on video. It's a fitting sound for a rc car engine sound imo. Super smooth and powerful. With such a small motor though you will need a 9-10t pinion for any drag brake

[@skbaseballtranslator]

hey brotha awesome vid, thank you! Do you know if the rhino programmer would work for other am32 escs like the HH crawlmaster v2?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

It will definitely work with the Crawlmaster V3, as it's just a Rhino V40.

[@jebrc]

Where did you get the wheel cover on your gt5?

[@white6502]

Im still here leaving comments! Can we get a wheeling Wednesday twice a week?

[@marioverschuren5739]

AM32 is pretty awesome! Run both my crawlers on them. One outrunner and one brushed.

[@themountain59]

best advance in crawler tech in the past years! US guys should check out rctimer page 😉

[@rc_crawler_zigzag84]

Brushed whith am32 esc ? What it is ?

[@ricky_rage]

Do you think it's possible to cut a little cable motors? If putting esc close to the outrunner motor I have a huge cable connection, and readed somewhere that could create cogging problems. Thank you in advance 🙏

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I have a couple of outrunner rigs where the motor is within an inch of the ESC and never had any issues. I have one where the ESC and the receiver are in the same box together, and again, no issue. You can cut the wires if they seem way too long-- but as the wires on the outrunners themselves tend to be about 2-3" long, the longer wires on the ESC usually help. At least for me.

[@uwishzr222]

Hello sir. I just installed the 80 amp and 1800 kv outrunner. It’s smooth but the esc. Motor wires and motor get pretty hot. You can touch but can’t hold motor more the 3 sec. I have the latest firmware and have stuck and stall unchecked. The motor kv is set to 1880 which is the closest I could get it. I Bench tested it not even having it installed in my vrd and it gets hot. It’s in 4s

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Are you using plugs, or is the motor hardwired to the ESC? That amount of heat is never right, so I would trend toward thinking some connection point is bad. Like, if there's a cold joint in one of the bullets, the thing will still work, but it won't be happy about it. Same for the battery plug.

[@Idontdohandles]

at least some outrunners are waterproof --- mud bog is tricky with ifs alot of grit but there are things that can be done to fight the grit. Under water though the outrunners are great i speak from expereince! No issues with Holmes Hobbies crawlmasters in the river 6+yrs ago and the motors sat on teh shelf for 4yrs and work just fine today (one ticks a little but still works great). :)

[@dslfrk59]

Love your videos. I can't get mine to connect to the laptop. I can pull up the program but when I hit connect it thinks then says can't connect to esc. What am I doing wrong.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

When I first tried mine, I found out that my cheap laptop does not have a dedicated USB-C port-- the only USB-C is for charging. So I use a USB-A to USB-C cable, and it works every time. Make sure direct connect is checked, and don't forget to select the port (COM3 or COM4, usually.)

[@postalacidity]

Have you tried the Holmes Hobbies firmware?

[@ka4172]

How hot get the ESC? Maybe its possibel seal it in a extra box? Maybe spray it with "Wet Protect" 3 Poly made a near same ESC with 80AMP 32AM chip there are waterproof but only sell in Singapore. I run a Outrunner quad copter 1300KV in my Axial Cherokee with a Fire Phoenix 4S ESC "water proof" very smooth but not so smooth like this .I run often waterfalls ,steps waterproof is a must have.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I've never seen it get past about 5ºF above ambient, and I still have the shrinkwrap on it. I think you would absolutely conformally coat it, or put it in a weatherproof box.

[@Charlieoil]

Great video. Not much out there on this yet. Is there a way to adjust the voltage to the servo?? Or it is just plug and play when it comes to BEC power??

[@CrawlerCanyon]

There are two wee tiny little dip switches on the power wire side of the ESC, which allows you to select between 5.2 and 8.2 volts by the position of the switches. NGL, I run everything at 8.2V, and nothing has died yet.

[@Charlieoil]

OK great, does it come set factory at 8.2? If not is there a chart for the settings. I appreciate you.@@CrawlerCanyon

[@CrawlerCanyon]

@@Charlieoilcomes default set to 5.2V. The chart is here: rhinoesc.com/upload/2023-06-08/20230608074825420.pdf

[@Charlieoil]

Man you are golden. I lose sleep over questions like this. Priceless my friend. Happy New Year.@@CrawlerCanyon

[@j2themen07]

Hey, I have a question. Could a not so good transmission, cause a weak looking drag brake? I’m running a rhino ve80 and 2100kv 3 brothers yellow jacket. It’s lacking drag brake and only thing I can think of is the direct drive transmission. Thanks in advance.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Pretty much, yeah. Gear reduction is simple mechanical advantage-- so getting solid drag brake out of a 30:1 FDR takes a lot more oomph than getting it out of a 60:1 FDR. Other than as a cost saving measure, I have no idea why most every gearbox out there has so little gear reduction.

[@j2themen07]

@@CrawlerCanyon thank you so much for the input. Very much appreciated!

[@Rombo-86]

I think you should unbox the “stuck rotor protection” because it’s for drones if the propeller get stuck it cuts the power. And box the “stall protection” because it’s the opposite. So it won’t stall when the load is high. Because that’s what we want in a crawler 😊 I’m thinking wrong?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Some ESCs don’t seem to care if stuck rotor protection is on, while others are barely functional if it’s on. I turn it off on every outrunner controller now- but still have several where it’s still checked and they work fine. So I dunno.

[@Rombo-86]

@@CrawlerCanyon ok but my theory seems logical anyway 🤷‍♂️😜 nonetheless I really like the rhino esc 💪

[@idiot_RC]

I might have to order one of these. I'm curious, do you have enough wheel time with this to compare to the 10BL120 for an outrunner? That's historically been my budget option to run an outrunner when I don't want to drop $120 on a Holmes, but being that it's not really a "crawler" esc, there are some tuning options with the Hobbywing that I miss.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

It's a whole different level compared to the 10BL120. The low speed on the Rhino is pretty phenomenal, and there's no PWM noise, at least as far as I can tell. Doesn't hurt to have a 10A BEC, either.

[@idiot_RC]

@@CrawlerCanyon yeah I'm on the fence about it. I think my biggest concern is longevity, but I have a budget rig currently running a BL120 with a 9imod outrunner and my only complaint is the extreme low speed control that I'm used to with the CrawlMaster v2 and Silent Assassin.

[@nicholasstephey8475]

Mine came in today

[@Tksperformancerc]

Anyone have any trouble downloading the the program page to their computer, not a computer guy and need to do some adjusting on this esc ?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Because I have to use a WIndoze PC to use it, I would say yes-- finding the stupid app every time I need it is painful in itself. I'm still using BLHeli Suite 1.82, it's the only thing that seems to work on every outrunner ESC I plug into it. Also, if you're using a VPN you (probably) won't be able to access the Rhino site at all.

[@Idontdohandles]

also, reversing an outrunner is the same as reversing an inrunner, as long as they are sensorless brushless motors. Sensored is different, and i auppose i don't know of any sensored outrunner, but still some inrunners are sensorless and can reverse wires to reverse direction. :)

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I hardwire almost every setup, so switching the motor to reverse rotation in the software is sometimes quicker and easier than re-soldering.

[@Idontdohandles]

so do i - after enough soldering, unsoldering, resoldering, my setup and skill has gotten on point so i usually like the physical act of soldering over the physical act of button clicking/keyboard chopping..... i completely get it though. Once its 100% bluetooth'd to the phone maybe i'll switch -- ya only set it once though so i tend to be sitting there in solder mode, test it, wrong direction, unsolder, resolder, and wait on 2 of the 3 heat shrinks till you know its proper. To each their own though!! :)@@CrawlerCanyon

[@jonathanfletcher97]

Might be a little late to the party, but is there a way to program the voltage cutoff for this? Seems like a SOLID esc option.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Yes. It's on the second "page" in the BLHeli software. Default is 3.2v per cell, so I just leave it there.

[@vb9300]

Just ran across this video. This is the exact set up i want in my bronco. Will the portal axles make it slower? And what if i were to have a 2Low or prefixal gearbox with a 9t pinion and portals, too slow? What size kv should I run to make it optimal. How would you set it up in this situation. Was that on a 45t spur

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I have a build using the 2Low and MEUS portals (same ratio as Vanquish) and it's great. I'm using an 1800kv on there, which is what I'd recommend (or thereabouts) for portals. If using straights, 1400kv or lower. The test subject for this video is something of an oddity, a TRX-4 gearbox but paired to straight axles (AR45s) so there's little gear reduction. An AR45 is usually 3.75:1 for the axle, while a TRX-4 axle is 9.7:1.

[@vb9300]

@@CrawlerCanyon thank you sir.

[@nate4024]

Thoughts on the furitek lizard 10 cause I'm been literally looking for a outrunner system someone told me they like the furitek ten

[@CrawlerCanyon]

The folks who have run both genuinely seem to prefer the Rhino, and I can see why. The Furitek costs considerably more, only goes to 4S, and has half the BEC voltage options (6v and 8v for the Lizard, and 5.2, 6.0, 7.4, and 8.2 for the Rhino) and half the amp rating (5A vs. the Rhino's 10A) AliExpress has Rhino combos with motor and ESC for around $90. The Lizard 10 is $119 or $129 with the BT module, and that's just the ESC.

[@areadierc2803]

Great video. Just received my second rhino esc . They work really well with Holmes snubnose revolver motor . Just sold my furitek 10th esc as it was not as good as this .

[@robertpullen515]

I finally got my new ESC programmed after a week. Incredible. Absolutely incredible.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

And I finally have another one on the way-- I put it off as long as I could. It's just so smooth.

[@robertpullen515]

@@CrawlerCanyonI’m at work up here in West Virginia hauling shedded steel and searching Ali express for 900kv between loads. My 2000kv isn’t slow enough

[@CrawlerCanyon]

@@robertpullen515 The options for us in "crawler specific" outrunners say... sub-1400 are sadly pretty small. While it's cheap, I am getting tired of having to modify drone motors to work, and would just like to grab off the shelf now and then. Thinking of the cheaper stuff like Surpass and 9imod, I can't think of any below that 1400 or so. I'm running a 760kv in Zoidberg, which even on 4S with a belt drive is barely walking speed WOT. It's amazing.

[@robertpullen515]

@@CrawlerCanyon wonder if the 3548 900kv turbo will bolt right up

[@CrawlerCanyon]

@@robertpullen515 If it's the EMP N3548 900kv, you're in the same boat with me and my Flash Hobby outrunners from Amazon-- 5mm shaft with no flats. So it just takes some work with a rotary tool and/or a file. All of my outrunners save for one are Flash Hobby offerings that I had to grind a flat for. The motors themselves are great, and the 900kv is actually cheaper on Amazon-- the Flash Hobby version is only $31. amzn.to/3l7q4wT

[@danweiss1371]

It’s been three months since you got your rhino, speed controller. I would like to order one for a holmes Hobby V2 out runner. Just would like to know if you’re still happy with the ESC ?????

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I now own four.

[@MZBallistic]

I just put one of these in my Ecto along with a HH revolver classic 1950kv. The esc seems to get really hot?? My Ecto is just 6lbs 3oz is that too heavy? My gearing is 9t/58 spur 3s and 4s get equally hot 150/160 degerees, is this too hot or normal?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Yeah, shouldn't get hot at all, really. I don't have any that do, or at least none that I've ever noticed. You did cut the heatshrink off of it, yes? I also pretty much never run plugs, and just solder the motor wires straight to the board. That might help. Also, in the programmer, make sure you have stuck rotor and stall protection turned off.

[@MZBallistic]

@@CrawlerCanyon No i did not remove the heatshrink, i didn't know i had too but that makes sense. I didn't solder directly but shortened the wires and used 4mm bullets. Thanks.

[@rccrawlingaddict207]

So many great options to make something fun even more fun.....hmmmm.

[@WilsonChu-xj4xp]

hello how to adjust bec on this esc some one can let me know …thanks

[@CrawlerCanyon]

With the two teensy, tiny DIP switches. If you haven't already, cut off the heatshrink-- it kinda stops the heatsink from working. Then you can use a small screwdriver or pick to slide the switches. IIRC, it's default somewhere around 5 volts, that's with both switches "down." Both switches "up" is 8.2V. There are combinations for 6-ish and 7ish volts through a combination of one up one down. I think I linked to the manual in the description, it's covered there.

[@johnread951]

Did you have any problems with the esc getting really hot? I have mine all set for a holmes revolver with the poles and kv set right and even when moving really slowly the esc begins to get really hot. I know sine power can cause heat but even the moor wires heat up

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I’m now running two, and haven’t managed to get either of them more than 5°F above ambient. Though I do recommend taking the heat shrink off.

[@290DIRT]

Set the sine mode to 5.

[@johnread951]

@@290DIRT I sold it in the end and went with a furitek

[@jamesk9057]

Have you tried this with a brushless sensorless inrunner like the Holmes crawlmaster BL?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I only run outunners on outrunner ESCs. No matter how good the digital wizardry, you're never going to get the kind of low speed control out of a 4-pole inrunner that you would with a 14-pole outrunner. As of typing this, the Canyon fleet contains a single sensored outrunner (HW AXE V2.). We have better options available.

[@jamesk9057]

@@CrawlerCanyon right I get the low speed start up and control of a 14 pole outrunner vs a 4 pole sensored inrunner. I was curious about the combination due to the fact the crawlmaster bl is a sensorless 10 pole inrunner. Wasn’t sure if you had any experience with it.

[@aaronfreel3477]

I come from the drone world and that outrunner is fine with water. They run fuller submerged. I know crazy but I have seen it.

[@mitsuman5555]

The specs on that ESC are impressive, especially the cell count. Makes me want to try stupid things like putting it in a 1/10 basher. Hmm...

[@CrawlerCanyon]

How come we never hear about outrunners in go-fast stuff? Well, go-fast stuff that doesn't fly, that is. Makes me wanna pick up a no-prep dragster, an 8S-rated outrunner, and see what explodes first. LOL

[@Calcapwn300]

@@CrawlerCanyon you are my kind of genius.

[@polishguywithhardtospellna8227]

Can it have frequency changed to get rid of motor whine?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Like any AM32, this one has all of the usual adjustments (variable PWM, etc.) It is the quietest outrunner controller I've tried yet, though. No idea what it would sound like running a brushed motor.

[@themountain59]

Of course you can change the frequency but there is no need for it...on AM32 ESCs wont be a "whine" no matter what motor.

[@urbancrawler1459]

Hey I'm looking for getting this esc, This would be my first brushless crawler esc. However I can't find a super budget motor i would get this one but I don't want to have to put a flat spot on the shaft. I found out that injora made a 1/10 outrunner motor could you do a review on that?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

The Globact is the exact same motor in a different paint job. amzn.to/4d36kRh I've been meaning to get one of the Injora just because they're cheaper, but every time I go to order one, they're off Prime again.

[@urbancrawler1459]

Thanks I think I will get this sec with the injora motor, thanks for responding on an older video. Would you still recommend this motor to me after a long term pov?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

@@urbancrawler1459 think of all of the "cheaper" outrunners in that ~$30 area as a typical rebuildable 540 brushed motor. They definitely get the job done, and they're better than any sealed-can out there... but... the purpose built crawler outrunners (Rhino S12/S20, Holmes, Team Brood, etc.) will all have more torque, efficiency, and smoothness. The Rhino S20s are my absolute favorite outrunners, around $50USD on AE and $65 USD on Amazon. I have more than enough converted/modified drone motors to use for testing/development on new builds, and tend to stick to the Rhinos for the final product. It's one of those instances where there really is a worthwhile difference between the cheaper one and the more expensive one.

[@urbancrawler1459]

Ok thanks I think I will get this motor and esc, If I feel the need to have a nicer motor I will try to find something. Thanks for responding super fast, Also where are you located at?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

@@urbancrawler1459 Inland Empire, Southern California.

[@leomarloedicang419]

May I know what's the model of your laptop?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

It's this guy right here, which I got around the Black Friday/Cyber Monday period, so it was $99 at the time. amzn.to/3ziP8UQ Works well enough for what I use it for, and the battery lasts a good long time.

[@wrightwayz71]

i use a airtronics mx3x as well

[@BK33REVIEWS]

Everyone loves this esc but i have heard allot of talk about over heating have you experienced this

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I have not. I think there's... four of them here now? Maybe 5? I just imagine people trying to pour 4S into like 2500kv or something.

[@290DIRT]

Set the sine mode to 5.

[@LogainTheHumane]

I'm curious why you'd get this over a hobbywing fusion pro. Genuine question, does this outrunner set up have any advantages? Seems to me that it's equal in torque and low speed control, but you lose top end wheel speed, you lose FOC control, and you lose both the plug and play ability and the ability to drive safely in muddy conditions. Seems to me that an outrunner is simply like a hobbywing fusion with less features. So what's the appeal?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

If the camera doesn't show it, the torque in the outrunner is way, WAY beyond what the Fusion can produce. Also, the Fusion Pro's greatest strength is it's greatest weakness-- it's a Hobbywing: so 2-3S only, and we get two choices of kV. With an outrunner ESC like this, I can pair it with whatever motor I want-- some tiny, high-kV 3520 on 3S, or a chunky, low-kV 3548 on big volts, like 6S. So there isn't a loss in wheelspeed, because it's more selectable. Higher voltages bring distinct advantages-- for example, all other factors being equal, an 850mah 6S pack will have about 10% more run time than a 1500mah 3S pack. So sure, the Fusion Pro is still my favorite "combo" in terms of performance, convenience, and cleanliness of install. But a Rhino + Flash Hobby 3548 combo is about 90 bucks, compared to 150 for a Pro. And I mean... outrunners sound cool.

[@LogainTheHumane]

@@CrawlerCanyon Ahh that makes sense. I appreciate the explanation. Tempted to try one out, but I don't run dedicated crawlers. What can I say, I like my mud and water lol

[@CrawlerCanyon]

@@LogainTheHumane 3BRC has outunners that are supposed to be "weatherproof," or at the very least lifetime warrantied if they prove not to be-- the Blackjacket and Yellowjacket motors. I'm very interested, but if I were mud bogging I'd just put a Fusion (probably an SE) in there and call it a day.

[@LogainTheHumane]

@@CrawlerCanyon Thanks, I'll check them out

[@Steve_J81]

Everything I've read said you want "Stuck rotor protection" off, but it looks like you left it on and Rusty ran just fine .

[@bigeyefpv]

Can I use the 1150kv of this motor on 2s on a scx10 gearing

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I mean you could use it, sure. But it's gonna be wicked slow. Like... 2.5mph is my guess?

[@bigeyefpv]

@@CrawlerCanyon I thought the higher kv more speed

[@CrawlerCanyon]

That is correct, but I consider "high kV" to begin above 2500kv. 1150 is a slower option on 3S. For 2S (which is a thing I don't do) I wouldn't go lower than 2200kv.

[@bigeyefpv]

@@CrawlerCanyon ok

[@nicholasstephey8475]

Second probably must important. I have never ordered from Ali express always worried about it. What method do you think is safe, cc, PayPal????

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I used Paypal, because any disputes I've had in the past were super easy to resolve. But no issues at all from this seller, the stuff shipped almost immediately, and I had it in my hands in 8 days. Not bad at all.

[@nicholasstephey8475]

8 days isn’t bad at all. Sounds like it might be time to take the dive into the deep end

[@weedfaya959]

L esc rhino chauffe avec un outruner 1850 kv , quelle serait la cause ?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I'll try this in both English and with Google translate Je vais essayer ceci en anglais et avec Google Translate Allow me to answer your question with some questions: Have you removed the shrinkwrap from the Rhino? Did you go into the ESC setup software to set the correct number of poles and disable stuck rotor protection? Permettez-moi de répondre à votre question par quelques questions : Avez-vous retiré le film plastique du Rhino ? Êtes-vous allé dans le logiciel de configuration ESC pour définir le nombre correct de pôles et désactiver la protection du rotor bloqué ?

[@weedfaya959]

Merci pour les infos , car j avais entendu dire que ça chauffait ,

[@vb9300]

am i missing something? how do I set it to 7.4 or 8.2 v for the servo?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

The dip switches right by the capacitors. Both dips "up" (away from the numbers) is 8.2V.

[@vb9300]

@@CrawlerCanyon man them things are tiny

[@vb9300]

@@CrawlerCanyon flipped them...sitting still all kinds of power on the servo...as soon as i move fwd the servo seems to drop to 5v. Brand new servo too. Any thoughts?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

@@vb9300 that's honestly something particularly difficult to diagnose over the internet. There's SO many variables in play.

[@vb9300]

@@CrawlerCanyon Im assuming it wasnt centered...it was shuttering real bad. I re-installed the horn, havent had a problem since...idk bud.

[@ClickClacksRcs]

How do you like it long term?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I think that currently, between the V80 and the smaller V40, there are 8 or 9 of them in service in the fleet.

[@ClickClacksRcs]

Wow that mean she’s great man I really appreciate your channel you alway do a fair review of the products

[@FaithSaraG]

You gotta do an 8s speed run.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Gotta find a 400kv motor to make this happen. Rusty should run on 8S, right?

[@elgatooff-road719]

Is that the only way to program it?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Same goes for all AM32s. You need a PC and the BL Heli Suite software.

[@elgatooff-road719]

@@CrawlerCanyonyou wouldn’t mind telling me to unZip app you used for this application?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

@@elgatooff-road719 I have a Windows laptop that does one thing: programs ESCs. So when I downloaded the package for the BL Heli software, I did the free trial of WinZip just to unpack it. Now it yells at me to "renew" every time I open the screen. The fact that Windows machines can't just open .zip files on their own still boggles my mind.

[@swerv512]

Is this the $8 ESC from Ali?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Well, it's actually $70, the page just auto-forwards you to the programmer no matter what you do-- and the ESC comes with a programmer, so I don't even know why they sell it separately.

[@brianargo1659]

For what its worth, which is probably nothing. But i think it needs to stay just like it is, changing nothing. And I also think 2nd gear is a beast!! Lmao... and yes it does look fun. That's a good way to break in a new set of wheels and shocks 🤣🤣

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Rusty may have accidentally achieved his final form.

[@johngleason9667]

Put under drive gears in the ar axles

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I've balked at the 80 bucks for the gears. I can just get a lower kV motor for less. Like what happened here.

[@WreckitRalphie]

The website says it’s $8.97. How come u say its 70 bucks

[@craigseary2368]

If you opened it from his link it opens on the usb programmer, you need to change it to the esc listing. Comes up here in aus at 13 bucks and change till you change to the esc

[@CrawlerCanyon]

NO matter how you try to link to it, it defaults to the programmer. And the ESC comes with a programmer, so... 🤷‍♂️

[@WreckitRalphie]

Thanks guys

[@HIinfidel]

You probably already done this but stuck rotor protection must be turned off . That’s a drone feature

[@CrawlerCanyon]

The feelt is getting overrun by outrunners, and I can't say for 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure there are a couple out there with stuck rotor and stall protection still switched on, and I've never noticed. Some though, the Rhinos specifically-- are borderline non-functional with those boxes checked. All of the newer V40 and V80 ESCs I've gotten come out of the box with both switched off.

[@johnhrichak3451]

Sir, I have just unsubscribed from a myriad of "SCHILL" crawler channels Crawler Canyon is like an old pair of jeans compared to the polyester sell-a-thon gizmo of the week crew. Thank you sir!

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Just one tiny KZbinr's guess here, but I think it's the tendency of some folks to kinda... go with the flow once the tide of "manufacturer provided" gear starts showing up. They don't wanna stem that tide. I will tell you the honest truth about ever single part I test, no matter how much it pains me. If I can save one person from buying some terrible thing that another channel has sung praise of, I feel like I've done a worthy deed. Things like the ISDT ESC70 spring to mind. I lost a whole lot of faith in a number of channels when they gave positive reviews to that ESC, which is objectively garbage.

[@johnhrichak3451]

@@CrawlerCanyon Information versus info-mercial. Thank you for your response.

[@johnhrichak3451]

@@CrawlerCanyon It was the synergy of two unrelated events that led to my excreting the aforementioned schill channels. Seeking a classic Buggy for high speed gravel flats beach running with FPV mods, I was met by several channels highly touting a certain unit that featured threadlock coupled with fasteners with the hardness of 70% dark chocolate! A discarded, expensive egg on my face. Then a highly respected young man from Utah instead of his usual information packed video, gives an Axial infomercial! Well here I am, happy at not being schilled. Thank you sir!

[@CrawlerCanyon]

@@johnhrichak3451 I lost a good bit of respect for more than one channel after they gave nearly-glowing "reviews" of the ISDT ESC70, which-- at launch-- was almost impossibly bad. Like so, so, SO bad. But some who shall not be mentioned recommended it, going so far as to state that it was "better than a 1080." It's a damn shame.

[@kilroy1980]

Yeah i bought 2 of those peices of junk bacause of the rave reviews it got. Found out real fast id been had.​@@CrawlerCanyon

[@jjrutten4248]

Turn off “stuck rotor protection”. And motor poles is more important than motor kv.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

All of my outrunners are of the cheap variety, every single one I have is 12N14P, so I haven't needed to change the pole count yet. But I can say there is an absolutely notable difference when switching from the default 2200kV to whatever is fitted-- say the 900, or the 760 I'm running in another. I am curious-- IIRC, every single outrunner I have has stuck rotor protection on and I've never noticed any issues, so what is the advantage to switching it off?

[@themountain59]

That heatshrink on the sink is contraproductive...you should get rid of it.

[@nicholasstephey8475]

I’m feeling you had some prior driving experience with this.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Previous experience driving outrunners (including that 900kv) yes, but prior experience with the Rhino, no. All I did before filming was solder on the XT60 and the 3.5mm bullets. Had never been in a rig at all. It's just SO much easier to get going than starting with a flashed AM32. Not needing an Arduino is probably my favorite part.

[@nicholasstephey8475]

@@CrawlerCanyon what do you think about this system in a phoenix with portals

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I think the ESC would be amazing, you'd just have to really shop around to see what outrunner to go with. I'd want something a little bigger (because of the Phoenix weight) and then either a bit higher in the Kv due to the gear reduction from the portals, or alternately, more voltage. 9imod has a 3542 in 1400kv that will take 4S (amzn.to/3I0g0wQ), and that would be AMAZING in a Phoenix.

[@albertogonzalezrodriguez7635]

Amigos cuidado con este artículo!!!.ayer recibí de aliexpress lo conecte a la batería respetando la polaridad y se empezó a calentar la esc y la batería la hincho como una pelota!!!. Recomiendo antes de conectarlo a la batería testar con un polimetro o tester para evitar sustos. Le puesto una reclamación al vendedor....el susto que me dado la rotura de la batería y el tiempo de espera no tiene precio!!!!😢😢😢😢

[@StubbsRC]

And from 11 to 9 tooth is is like an 18% reduction 🤷

[@CrawlerCanyon]

An 11T is the smallest 32P pinion with a 5mm bore. Going to a 9T would require changing the motor, and at that point, might as well just go lower kV and up the pinion for better mesh.

[@Spor777]

Illegally smoth 🤣

[@StubbsRC]

Just direct power the servo and stop worrying about BEC. It's 2023!

[@CrawlerCanyon]

No need for direct power- and this is from a guy who recommends direct power almost exclusively- when you have an 8.2V BEC putting out 10A. You can run a power-hungry but ultra cheap servo without issues. Like the Amazon blue-case 35kg Pro. Often under 30 bucks.

[@StubbsRC]

@@CrawlerCanyon that is a lot. I run the black case BETU servos on my 2s rigs and just make them direct power 🤪 $30 servo that will turn a heavy trx4 on predator hyrax on rough rock 😈

[@twilliamrc4wd]

Have you noticed don't whining annoying noise that usually Castle makes when you run an OutRunner motor this one doesn't make any that's funny

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Hell, Castle sings the PWM song when running a Castle-branded sensored inrunner. With an outrunner it's an outright aggressive sound.

[@twilliamrc4wd]

@@CrawlerCanyon all the thing is we got to get Traxxas to make a transmission that doesn't sound like crunching sandpaper on rocks and metal and make it quieter transmission

[@CrawlerCanyon]

That's the trade-off for atomic toughness. The Element Stealth X can be that quiet because the diff gears are nylon. The TRX-4 box is metal gears everywhere-- and 32-pitch for spur and pinion doesn't help the noise either.

[@TheRCBuildersPost]

​@@CrawlerCanyon Even the stealth x with all metal gears is quieter than my trx4

[@Ellick92street]

If you go someplace else, you pay TOO MUCH!!

[@christopherbouman160]

Earth is flat. Change your screen saver

[@SalSpaceKhan]

Earth is round. Change your smoke detectors.

[@themountain59]

...or the drugs you take 😁