This is also the reason I'm such a fan of servo on axle conversions 😯
@JPWirt9 ай бұрын
Very glad I asked and very well explained as usual!!
@klampykixx9 ай бұрын
I run most of my shocks upside down already, mostly for the CG benefit. But also the leaky bois tend to stop leaking when they're flipped. I had no idea that emulsion shocks are kinda supposed to have an air pocket. That makes much more sense. So thankyou for this !
@mfnJOSH9 ай бұрын
I firmly believe the gts works better right side up. The cavity inside the cap catches air for the imulsion during assembly. When the majority of the air remains in the shock cap and acts as the bladder does in the big bores ( more or less) because the piston can not travel up and pass the air in the cap. When inverted, the air in the shock is fully accessible by the piston when fully drooped and introduces much more air into the oil when cycling versus right side up. I've run my comp style truck with gts's inverted and normal and found it to have much less controlled dampening at or near full compression and droop when inverted.
@The_RC_Family9 ай бұрын
Oh I do love a twofer =)
@FaithSaraG9 ай бұрын
Time to get to flippin shocks.
@LumpkinMumfins19 ай бұрын
It’s Tuesday somewhere, right? That makes this a TWOFER TUESDAY! 🙌🙌
@NTX_RC9 ай бұрын
Lol, I was running my Chavtechs upside down and one started leaking from the cap. Glad you made this vid. I guess I'll swap them around and see if that helps.
@lastcreations88459 ай бұрын
cut a piece of fuel line slide on the shock shaft so it doesnt hit the bladder.
@TheRCBuildersPost9 ай бұрын
I tried the whole upside down shocks but I didn't notice any difference. I didn't get as in depth as this, though. I never mess with leaking shocks so I don't worry about that. I run all element shocks fitted with x rings. Stopped messing with anything else a long time ago lol. I still have them upside down on my two comp crawlers mainly for looks 😂
@EddieDesigned9 ай бұрын
I've been running all my shocks upside down for years, chasing what i thought was a few mm difference. I never expected it to be so significant!
@CrawlerCanyon9 ай бұрын
Same. I was expecting a drop of 2 or 3 millimeters.
@EddieDesigned9 ай бұрын
@@CrawlerCanyon lets be fair, it wasn't unreasonable either, a couple of mm at this scale would still make a good difference! Let alone 10mm! The only shocks i don't run upside down are on the go fast stuff, Slash 2wd, b6 buggy and my twin hammers rock racer
@psjoinery69 ай бұрын
Very informative. I hadn't considered the possibility of crap getting sucked inside the shock body when inverted. Still on shock theme, I've recently read or seen or watched something about a new shock shaft coating that increases performance. Instantly I assumed it's along the lines of Kashima coating on MTB shock shafts and fork stantions, to give smoother movement and some protection. Is this a thing now or did I dream it?
@CrawlerCanyon9 ай бұрын
There are a number of mfrs. doing TiN coatings, and AE used to do "Unobtanium," so if someone wants to do MTB shock coating I'm all for it.
@Rombo-869 ай бұрын
Very informative video 💪😊 and I love this tech episodes. I have a question, I have an element gatekeeper I rebuilt to a 4link back and SOA front with lay down shocks to fit my pickup body. But I have too much torque twist in that one. I want to try to turn the ring in the rear axle that you discovered in a live stream was possible with element axle. But I haven’t figure out the gearbox to have opposite rotation. Or maybe t-case in the back? You have another idea? 😊
@lastcreations88459 ай бұрын
many suspension options first, seen in front or rear the most ? shock angle, firmer rear spring, and link placement
@Rombo-869 ай бұрын
@@lastcreations8845 the most torquet twist is in the back. I need to have the shocks lay down pretty much to fit under the bed of the pickup. And I have very stiff springs that come with the trailing arm stock on gatekeeper.
@Bonald12 ай бұрын
@Rombo-86 an anti-roll bar may help. It almost eliminated torque twist for me
@rccrawlingaddict2079 ай бұрын
Who would have thunk it? Not me! Something else to shove into the RC storage folder.
@Bonitacreekrc29 ай бұрын
when i put the gold 3gear with dig, how do you suggest i mount the fusion se in my ascent, should i mount the motor to the 3 gear or on the stock mount like rattlecat
@CrawlerCanyon9 ай бұрын
Honestly, either will work. Your CG will drop with the motor on the gearbox, but your weight bias will shift backward a bit so you'd likely need to add front weight to compensate. It would be a whole lot simpler without the FMM.
@The_RC_Family9 ай бұрын
Been running them like this for a while just because 1 they leak or 2 a feeling. Thank you Mr C! I have a question for Friday Live but I will ask it here incase you have time to answer. How do I get over/underdrive through the axles if I buy the MEUS F10 Portals?
@lastcreations88459 ай бұрын
in over under diff gears. 27/8 front 33/8 rear is 20% or you can buy a tcase with the difference built in.
@OGRadGrow9 ай бұрын
Nice 👍🏾💯
@nicholasstephey84759 ай бұрын
drive that bad boy
@AnySumptionBanter9 ай бұрын
my very first rc was the redcat danchee ridgerock. I read an old note in some weird forum about flipped their shocks to put heavy side down. I flipped my shock and shared it with fb community and most hadn't heard of that. i've always flipped them. not sure why others do not. my shocks have almost never leaked unless they came defective.
@CrawlerCanyon9 ай бұрын
How have you never owned an Axial? I've never met an Axial shock that didn't leak without a full seal replacement. A buddy of mine is building up a Phoenix, and the included S8Es leak as badly as any shock I've ever seen. I've had soooo many sets of S8Es by this point, and they're all over the board. Some are fine, some might as well be cross-drilled. Every single one of them is running upside down. By necessity.
@AnySumptionBanter9 ай бұрын
@@CrawlerCanyon oh.. I own a utb18. been waiting for you to finish that build. they are rightside up right now. They haven't leaked. have had it for 6 months now and no leak interestingly.
@myckeee8 ай бұрын
my shocks i used teflon tape on the top cap and flipped them. bone dry on the outside
@BrandonMythigander9 ай бұрын
Should be called. Dr canyon RCD😎😎😎
@stunod-RC9 ай бұрын
Maths clarification: 4 x 9 = 36 grams. But the question is, that don’t you actually get 2x the effect as you are removing it from sprung and adding it to unsprung? Therefore 72gram shift in weight.. 🤔
@CrawlerCanyon9 ай бұрын
I'm the wrong guy to ask. I can barely do arithmetic.
@dantrivett84359 ай бұрын
Nice
@brianmorrison28469 ай бұрын
Weight down low and oil seepage
@jefflakso2 ай бұрын
Typically the math for upside down /LCG = only about .5% or 8oz.