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Paul Crawley and Ray Hadley express their disapproval that the likes of Daly Cherry-Evans have criticised ARL Chairman Peter V'Landys.
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[@scottyj7132]

This’d be a much better show if Ben Ikin was at the table on his own.

[@robertneale7326]

He's the only one of them, that actually understands the issue..

[@danieljosevski1169]

The rest have never played so they're just armchair experts

[@Alekosdw]

Kent played one game for parra But sometimes they have got good points Sometimes there way off Kent always wants to see someone get sacked lol like he likes people losing there job or something

[@jayneshaw2327]

I totally agree. Get rid of the journalists with their over inflated egos and constant negativity. Paul Kent is just a nasty man and Crawley……STOP MOANING OMG.

[@danielcorrea1487]

We the fans ain't talking about the head highs, sure penalise the head highs but have some common sense, when Tetesco is falling into tackle the tackler has less than a split second to miss him so why should him and his team be punished, when a player tackles around the ball and the arm goes up and clips the chin, accidental head highs shouldn't be punished, if we the fans can see infractions in the moment why doesn't the bunker see it and send message to ref straight away instead of letting play go on for 5 tackles and then going back and calling a penalty, Refs and bunker have to much power in the game. As far as Covid goes, if he was running a small business he would have been like everyone else, power less, lets be honest about that.

[@robertneale7326]

Exactly right.. These guys are completely misunderstanding the backlash...

[@sentientbean1]

There is one fact that you can take away from this video with absolute certainty. Hadley has pink eye.

[@Alekosdw]

Brown eye

[@johnlok5415]

Feel sorry for ben, his the only one that talks sense and reason, no one sided bullshit .. Rest of them never played the game talking about the game Lol. Mr Ray 2Gb , the players have more right to say what they want than you do. Remember that.

[@joshuaharper6709]

Paul Kent played in the 80s early 90s

[@CallsignEskimo-l3o]

How about the players like Turvey Mortimer and others that now have dementia and can't remember the names of their family. Who will speak for them? Don't they have a right to have a say?

[@iamyouyouareme9905]

The new rule is inconsistent and that's the issue.

[@dbo4506]

You understand the human error factor yeh… are you perfect..? No you’re not. No one is. Where there are humans making decisions there will be mistakes and there’ll be inconsistencies. That’s part of life. Get the f*** over it.

[@harohohaia9842]

@@dbo4506 WTF are you on about?? What a stupid comment lol

[@madara792]

@@harohohaia9842 yeah lol acting like we dont have multiple on-field officials and a whole dedicated system for correcting quick instinct calls with instant replays from different perspectives. Then again, the bunker arent always onto it lol

[@martynrobinson2628]

I think the biggest issue in this is that someone has farted on Ray Hadleys pillow....

[@troycoe7990]

The fans of the NRL saved the game last year .We go to the games buy the merch .No one seems to care what the fans want . I don't want head high's but I don't want touch football . No fans no game.

[@hansoloburger2322]

Touch football are you saying you can’t tackle without hitting the head

[@imalwaysright]

No government + no media + no big power brokers = No games for the “fans” to watch. They saved the NRL. Not fans.

[@deodrasshelios7957]

Fans don't know what they want. They only know what they don't want and the answer is everything.

[@MA-ri5he]

@@hansoloburger2322 depends you moron at what height is the head? If your dropping your body height from chest, waist or knee then no it shouldn’t be a penalty and classified as accidental just like the tackler getting it wrong and doing the drunken side step.

[@saintly8286]

@@hansoloburger2322 there’s always going to be head highs ya 🤡 ya can’t tackle around the legs a metre out from ya try line or their gonna just fall over the line

[@haasteagle2750]

I think the players are just pissed off about the sudden strictness and policing of the rules. They've been conditioned to tackle a certain way for so long it's hard for them to adapt to change in the space of a couple of weeks.

[@guyskillen]

They can do it at training

[@deodrasshelios7957]

Why have they been training to swing their arms at the head of the player they're tackling?

[@izzy031096]

@@deodrasshelios7957 They haven’t you idiot. They’ve been trained to wrap up the arms/upper body to stop the offload and make dominant tackles on these massive tackle busting players. Tackles slipping up to the head, or ball runners slipping down to swinging arm height is going to happen, this is rugby league for fucks sake.

[@deodrasshelios7957]

@@izzy031096 The replays suggest otherwise.

[@stevenmolisa4740]

@@deodrasshelios7957 you seem as confused as Kenty, Crawley and Hooper. Not one player is for head highs, and they certainly don’t train to tackle the head. The players are unhappy over the lack of engagement by the NRL to involve key stakeholders (the players) in bringing change (that change being harsher enforcement of head highs, 6 again rule etc). In any organisation, when major change is introduced, there must be buy in from all involved. Rugby league is a product where the key stakeholders include the players, the fans, the sponsors and everyone associated in running the clubs. Look up organisational change, the body of literature on it is massive, which is why I’m surprised that people who claim to be in the know, lack the basic knowledge of how to run an organisation like the NRL. Peter V’Landys is not a general passing orders down a chain of command for them to be obeyed blindly by the troops. Sorry, this is a different type of organisation.

[@coreywilliams_]

Id rather these clowns walk away from the game, instead of the players and fans

[@baileygilbert4766]

Will you rather players getting concessions then?, Just wondering.

[@coreywilliams_]

@@baileygilbert4766 I’d rather the rules accomodate, if they are serious about concussions, why do they need to speed the game up, back up on the 6 again rules so the ruck slows so fatigue doesn’t result in sloppy tackles and one sided blow out games. The speed of the game is overrated the rule changes are just getting out of hand, completely different game to 2019 why so many changes so fast

[@emanx2600]

Might as well go ahead And bann boxing, UFC and mix martial arts in Australia. Professional athletes should know the pros and cons before they sign a contract. There's risk in everything. It's life.

[@blusuck]

Exactly mate

[@hansoloburger2322]

@@blusuck “exactly mate” really? hitting the head is a huge part of fighting take away hitting the head you change the sport completely you can play rugby league without hitting the head only thing that’s changed is the enforcement of the rule the game itself hasn’t changed by this time next year everybody will be whinging about the next rule that’s “ruining the game”

[@imalwaysright]

It’s only because of government that boxing and the like are legal. They can easily get banned.

[@noddy1992]

@@hansoloburger2322You're right. But in every sport there are accidents even in boxing and ufc fatigue plays a part. Hitting below the belt, or in ufc you go to kick someone and they move and you hit them in the groin.. etc. I'm all for punishing a deliberate head high tackle but when an accident occurs its part of the game. Just like its part of ufc and boxing and any other contact sport

[@libertyranger1301]

You knucklehead! Rugby league you cant make contact with the head, martial arts you can, rugby league you play 20 odd games a year, martial arts 1 or 2 fights a year. Big difference

[@deepfried2601]

Paul Kent just needs to calm down and look at both sides, not just trying to look after his job for god sake

[@JoeKavana]

New rules, same game. LezzGo.

[@allanwysocki6234]

Nope, no new rules, just policing the ones from 1908 correctly. Headhighs need to be rubbed out. This crackdown is overdue by a decade

[@allanwysocki6234]

They were deliberately ignored, and finally rubbed out in the 80s. Im showing my age in that i remember them, and the horrendous neck injuries as a result. Now we are seeing former players with dementia, and other serious brain disorders at way too young an age, from repeated concussions. V'landys rightly is saving the players from themselves so they and their families can have a quality of life after footy.

[@boganbob2708]

@@holyliable5829 Spear tackles have always been illegal under the rules.

[@roryt1985]

@@allanwysocki6234 you are wrong, the new rules are killing the game. Blatant head highs have always been punished. Penalties for initially hitting the shoulder and slipping into the head should be fair game, what do you expect to happen when two 100kg + athletes smash into each other ? It happened between Saifiti and Tapau at the weekend and they were grinning like Cheshire cats, they loved it. The very small risk of dementia (which a player may or not have succumbed to anyway, regardless of playing footy) is fair trade for the salary and lifestyle players get to live during their physical prime. Countless players have said they would happily sign wavers excluding them from future legal action if it means they can play the game they love. And they would also all play the game if you told them they would have dementia at 70. Who’s to say they would live to see 70 anyway ? If dementia is your argument then you shouldn’t be in favour of the game existing at all because since the shoulder charge was banned I have seen more players concussed from being forced to tackle low then I ever saw pre the shoulder charge being banned. So if you are so worried about dementia you should be campaigning for the game to be banned completely.

[@nathan-n14nismo12]

Vlandy….or any another chief would of kept the game afloat during covid… that’s there job… no brownie points… the problem is the way he an the refs are enforcing what there doing. To much iron fist… getting calls wrong … picked the wrong time to do it an really putting teams at a disadvantage…. That pisses everyone off…..

[@dbo4506]

Not everyone. Just losers like you that are more concerned with your own entertainment then the well-being of the players. You’re a grub mate.

[@nathan-n14nismo12]

@@dbo4506 arhahahaha. Ok mate. New school rookie. I have no problem with deliberate cheap shots being punished….. seems I have to spell it out for u.

[@danieljosevski1169]

Considering every other sport also recovered, I don't really get all the praise.

[@spinmyhead1667]

The brown nosing is so cringe,fans will walk because of it.

[@MrMeldarionx]

So introduce height and weight limits so only jockeys can play so it will be the real circus the NRL has become. Who cares what Crawley and Hadley etc think. If they continue to pander to Karens then the game will be unwatchable. The guys getting knocked out are tackling low or around the hips. They are talking out their ass.

[@deodrasshelios7957]

Same complaints were made when the shoulder charge was banned. Yet no one says anything about it anymore. Everyone will get use to this too

[@sofiamaddix8821]

Put em all in Helmets then 😅 Sending the players off= blowout scores= me changing the channel , one thing is great that they have tidied the rucks up and not two refs dictating the speed , time to stop the late third man in though

[@ronanrogers4127]

You should read the Boston reports...helmets actually make it worse, much worse

[@dbo4506]

Change the channel then. Bye.

[@deodrasshelios7957]

Considering you've chosen to click on a replay of a program about NRL, I doubt very much you're changing the channel. Besides, sin bins make it more interesting.

[@jimjohnston4181]

Wow Vlandy's did his job ! Now let help him and his mates destroy the game.

[@briangoodman1779]

What about the millions who get dementia that have never played football? My grandfather had it and never touched a football in his life. Tabloid style journalism from these clowns.

[@imalwaysright]

Knocks and repeated blows to the head increase the likelihood of brain injury. It’s not hard to comprehend. 😎

[@briangoodman1779]

@@imalwaysright Got any stats comparing football players to non-football players? Anyway, the players are adults. Let them make their own choices.

[@imalwaysright]

@@briangoodman1779 it’s interesting that you care less about player welfare than you do watching dangerous conduct. Anyway, what if the players chose to adjust their tackling and agree to the changes because they know it’s for the best 👀

[@mudguts6785]

@@imalwaysright Accidents happen you can hit your head attacking or defending its a contact sport you goose choose another job if your scared of the consequences later in life.At the end of the day everyones looking for someone to blame hey lets just blame the gamr that didnt choose you to play,you chose to play it. Woke generation the worst of the worst.

[@briangoodman1779]

@@imalwaysright So you have no stats. The players don't need to be babied or patronised. They're adults. Let them choose.

[@travismiller1491]

If you want head highs out of the game you need to open up the tackling techniques. Example bring back shoulder to shoulder tackles. You took them out and forced players to use an arm coming in or they would be penalized then wonder why there are more head highs. Then again it's a bunch of guys who have never even played a game or let alone trained at day in their lives, sitting down telling people how to tackle.

[@dr.johnbarron746]

100%

[@travismiller1491]

@@dr.johnbarron746 I don't understand how they say "Oh just go low". Look I do alot of wrestling at MMA. They are asking you to blast double leg takedowns for roughly 50 tackles on running guys built like Payne Haas, without hitting a knee, hip, thigh, elbow or team mate. Also did I mention the tackles have to be explosive otherwise they will just offload? Put the shoulder to shoulder back in and one can chop legs and one can either shoulder them or if disciplined enough, wrap the ball without hitting the head.

[@jacobandsarahelliott6492]

It’s become unwatchable

[@michaelcooper2799]

I can't believe they got rid of Brent Read (an actual respectable journalist) for this absolute shock jock flog. This show this season has turned a huge agenda driven corner (more so then what it has been). Its just Murdoch's, telegraph puppets just spewing steaming pile of turds. The whole reason I got Kayo was because I couldn't handle Hadley commentating the Thursday night games on 9. Please for the love of god Fox League do not give this man a microphone during live coverage.

[@jimjohnston4181]

Four puppets making excuses and creating distractions so they can fix matches.

[@DabDabGoose]

Every sport in the country is still afloat why do they talk like V'landys is the messiah? Also if you crackdown soo badly on high tackles you will force players to tackle lower and tackling lower is much more risky for head injuries for the tackler who by that statistics are the ones getting the HIA incidents anyway. they are clueless far majority of knock outs are the tacklers not the ones getting hit high. these guys are on V'landys payroll just saying, i can smell the bullshit.

[@niksmaithy6929]

any ceo or chairman would of done anything to save the game

[@ronanrogers4127]

Would’ve = would have, not “would of” ffs. Didn’t you pay attention in school?

[@spinmyhead1667]

@@ronanrogers4127 I’d say he did Einstein.His sentence is grammatically correct,albeit not as polished as Einstein would care for.

[@akongvic12]

2 min in lol over this bs already

[@justinmorton7201]

The Game is Finished. The whistle has blown. The fans are going home the seats are empty all i see are BACKS moving in a FORWARDS direction.

[@bluespig1]

Grow up.

[@imalwaysright]

Game has been allegedly finished for 3 weeks now yet you’re all still here 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@deodrasshelios7957]

Imagine going on KZbin to find a video about NRL to comment that the NRL is over. If it was over for you, you wouldn't care enough to be here.

[@Youstabemweslabem]

Omg. I'm all for no head high tackles but pleeease, half or more of these tackles happened when the defender was committed to the tackle whilst the attacker chose to bend or duck as the tackle was in progress. I feel sorry for the accused and our gr8 game. Rugby league is just another code that has been hijacked by lawyers. Sad days for a gr8 game.

[@libertyranger1301]

Its called lower your tackle target, it's not complicated, need to stop making excuses for players, jake trbojevic a perfect example on how you tackle and never recall seeing him suspended

[@Youstabemweslabem]

@@libertyranger1301 thanks for your opinion. Good luck with that. 😶

[@TarsoBsAs]

I'm a foreigner, big fan of Rugby League, Rugby Union and American Football. I can't believe there is even a debate that high tackles should not be part of Rugby League anymore...

[@eddielasowsky7777]

Mate, they've said over and over again the high tackle has been illegal for decades.

[@TarsoBsAs]

I know. That's exactly why V'Landys and referees have changed their attitudes. They want to end with high tackles once and for all. Nowadays in Rugby Union you see max 1 high tackle a game. No reason why Rugby League can't do that... It's gonna take a few months for everybody to adjust but in the end players will adjust, they don't want to spend half the season banned...

[@jimjohnston4181]

TarsoBsAs no one watches union any more lol

[@imalwaysright]

There isn’t. Just a lot of trolls and incels in the comments that claim to be boycotting NRL yet are still here

[@jimjohnston4181]

I'm Always Right troll off with ya dumb little Afro photo, unless you have some good input into what's taking place with the way the refs and bunkers have been performing.

[@jonocharteris]

Don't want to get concused??? Don't play

[@mudguts6785]

Exactly choose another job. Theres risks everyday in life

[@leroychambers5225]

Watch the footage, all the attacking players are falling or ducking into tackles. Less talking, more watching.

[@chris07081]

You have to pretty much hate the game to support these rules ray

[@prdz311]

Times up for Paul Kent. Was a fan before he’s embarrassed himself 4 weeks in a row haha.

[@mudguts6785]

Agreed absolute flog

[@danielkelly4487]

All you muppets hating if you don’t like it change the channel pretty simple . It’s suppose to be controversial and there suppose to be debate hence why people watch it . It’s pretty simple if nrl didn’t act on this imagine the class actions that will be coming there way from the players doing the sooking now

[@saintly8286]

So your happy with what the game has become?

[@danielkelly4487]

@@saintly8286 the only thing I’d change is the bunker interference stopping the game to go back to reward a penalty. The rest yeah more then happy it’s not a new rule they bought in it’s been there forever you can’t hit someone in the head If the nrl didn’t do something to change the head knocks imagine the class action suits coming there way they needed to change otherwise the game wouldn’t survive Everyone will adapt and the game will go on and it’ll become the new norm

[@imalwaysright]

@@saintly8286 The trolls and triggered are being hysterical and exaggerating.

[@papaluskask999]

Concussions have long term effects, Boxing has long periods between fights, because they know long term damage concussions have. League is contact sport will always have concussions but it's best for the game and players to minimise contact with the head. NRL are taking right direction

[@dbo4506]

Agreed!

[@patrickjohnson1309]

Fighters are sparing weekly,they would be coping big punches to the head, inbetween fights.

[@aximusroh6453]

Dafuq you on about? A boxer will cop more shots to the head in one boxing match than a footy players entire season or career. Last wk these morons talked about this then in the next segment advertised Gallons' up n coming fight showing him absolutely pounding the crap out of all his previous opponents heads. They even showed Gal smashing Hoppers head even though he was knocked out in the corner against the ropes and going down. Head high tackles suck and need to be rubbed out but not like this, not mid season with lopsided games. Bare in mind they will let the new rules slide for origin games. WTF????

[@snakasmagoo]

Ray Hadley, Who did you blackmail for this gig ? Andrew Voss has already beat you to the gig so don't annoy us with your voice here on Fox. Shame Nrl on Nine couldn't pay you enough to stay there

[@harohohaia9842]

And the new rules where quick play wins the game leg tackles just don't cut it..... The only way is to tackle the ball an stop the offload an quick play the balls which means tackling higher lol muppets

[@mohammadazim6700]

I dont think the players want vlandy out...its just how it came about...and the 10 min sin bins...50 percent of hits are illigal... and players know that...cuz I use to play league back in nz...the other half are shoulder to shoulder charges...which is legal...and should be legal...

[@stuartsavage3654]

Barry Humphries is looking well!

[@CraigHopwood]

Merv Cross said in the 80s that no tackle should be not above the chest now there is 4 in a tackle numbers in I am the lucky one I have a brain a intelligence one at that

[@SJ-vg7wu]

Play flag 😂

[@jaycee5890]

I gotta say them 90s was the day that coat hangers was practically legal an got away with a lot more! I was happy with just the “hia” but then again i feel the hia is easy to avoid. Maybe crack down on that instead of sin bins

[@TrackRecord3455]

Tell me Hadley how many nrl players are in aged care facilities who are suffering from dementia due to head knocks and concussion ?

[@imalwaysright]

Why do you ignore the discussion where they all said they know younger ex players that are experiencing brain issues.

[@niksmaithy6929]

kenty just yesterday your saying the ref will put the whilse away coz of origin what about high shot

[@JANOUBY2000]

why when i hear ray hadly talking i remember my dog barking

[@mickingram7012]

It's strange with all this controversy I haven't heard anyone mention mandatory head gear

[@robertneale7326]

They're totally misunderstanding the backlash.. It's not a problem with head-high tackles, the problem is players being sent for 10 for NOTHING!!

[@mickusachus]

If Crawley Hadley and Kenty all agree on Vlandys then clearly he has to go

[@aximusroh6453]

Pretty much sums it up!

[@lbriley7426]

Let’s blindly support V’Landys because last year he did what he was paid to do. These guys are muppets.

[@slipnslide9308]

Spot on mate.

[@jimjohnston4181]

Slip n Slide too right.

[@williamparslow5060]

Maaaateeeeee I know for a fact it’s not just the high tackles it’s the 6 again bullshit, everyone wouldn’t care if they got 10 minutes if they didn’t have to play so fast

[@harohohaia9842]

These old Muppet's don't understand the out cry from the fans!!! They are sending players to the bin when they are accidental head highs that can't be stopped in a split second example falling players,arms bouncing off the ball coming high!! That's the nature of the game you imbissals.Fair enough if it's wreck less send them off but just have some common sense FFS it's not hard imo

[@mikediao15]

So by your explanations Ray, if my client is limited to tackle low and NRL has evidence that players who tackle low like Boyd and Friends get serious injury then it is safe to say that V’Landy and NRL knowingly put my client (player in question) in danger. - V’Landy sped up the game knowing it lead to fatigue - V’Landy limited my client to tacking low - V’Landy and NRL knew that tacking low may result into neck injury - NRL was reckless and they put the safe of players at risk just for scoreboard to look 34-50.

[@clarkkhoury]

These guys are a bunch of clowns, it’s like I’m watching sky news, complaining about other people complaining

[@kinjite6858]

Anyone who thinks the game will become soft by getting rid of high shots wherever possible, has either never played the game or has taken too many high shots.

[@patrickjohnson1309]

Get rid of V'landys,Kenty and Hadley FFS.

[@rumplespliffskin]

Maybe both of my grandmothers played in the 60s. They had dementia and it sounds like playing contact sport is the only way to get it.

[@haydenivers6863]

Hahahahahah I love this

[@saumatotome]

This is brilliant. You win!! 🤣🤣

[@rumplespliffskin]

@@blindbunker777 I'm just saying there's every chance you're going to get it anyway and it can have nothing to do with being hit in the head. Out of the thousands of blokes that have played in the last 50 years, a lot of them smoked, drank and lived off a few hours of sleep so hundreds of them were going to get it no matter what.

[@rumplespliffskin]

@@blindbunker777 you're absolutely right and you've proved my point. A percentage is going to get it anyway with the majority coming out of it just fine, making it very hard to tell whether it's from football or if it's just the same dementia lots of old people get. It killed Darrell Eastlake and and he only called the game. The people leading the research have said they can not actually tell if it's the head knocks causing it all the time. The stuff that was coming out a few years ago when the world first started losing their minds was delivered in a very sensational way. In actual fact, they really can't tell one way or the other. For the record, I am actually happy about players hitting eachother in the head less frequently. I just feel sorry for the blokes that do try to tackle low and end up tackling nothing but head when the attacker slips over. Penalising for that is as silly as penalising the attacker for hitting the defender with his hip if the defender puts his head in the wrong place.

[@rumplespliffskin]

@@blindbunker777 yeah I agree to all of that too. I can't believe we ended an internet disagreement without bringing up all the blokes my mum has slept with.

[@ducati4859]

Careless has been not allowed for years

[@Roonoon2]

What's the percentage of ex footy players who have dementia vs. the percentage of the general population who have dementia?

[@latumalupo1292]

Agree 100%

[@peterbulloch4328]

Kent says the players are being pig headed about this, well V'landys is even more so. He doesn't own the game, the players and the fans do. Get rid of him, if he can't divulge what politicians told him they were going to legislate the game out of existence then he was just bull shitting everyone.

[@imalwaysright]

A lot of fans are ok with the changes. Fans are not monolithic. And to be honest, the fans contribute the least to the financial security of NRL.

[@peterbulloch4328]

@@imalwaysright so your only being "honest" about rugby league fans contributions to the financial security of the NRL as an organization? What does your honesty have to do with a simple fact, which you are obviously wrong about. I recently attended an NRL game at Newcastle and paid $55.00 for a upper level seat, there were about 22,400 attending that night thats well over a million dollars in revenue for one game, still think the NRL isn't supported by the fans? How do you know how many fans are ok with these changes, now is your opportunity to be honest.....you don't know right? I'll say it again the players, fans and clubs own the game not this egotistical, arrogant V'landys.

[@kurt10k74]

You cannot lose brain cells you don't have..... Little Ray ray needs to retire already 🧓

[@Outdoor-adventures-New-zealand]

I feel they need to make legs tackles more in defences favor at moment it's loose loose in split second desisions high shots whil happen.. But there's no insentive to tackle low.. If you tackle low at the moment the offense get a quick play.. If want tackles droped give an encentive and defences will follow

[@claytonrenault6499]

Tackle low cop a knee or a boot to the head , im not sure how its any different from copin a forearm to the head .

[@jackohere1878]

Solution-study Jake Tribo tackling technique and copy it.

[@The123dannyd]

My nan got diagnosed with dementia at 54 never played a game of rugba leeg in her life

[@andrewhall6292]

Making the game soft. Bringing diving into the game. Every time someone gets a bang on the hand they go down holding there face to force the ref to make a decision. Will be like soccer

[@imalwaysright]

Time to come up with some new catchphrases 😴😴😴😴😴

[@ducati4859]

Ben is the only one that knows what going on u three other gooses never played nrl

[@doubleb4170]

The nrl wants everyone to tackle lower, what I want to know is what is the nrl is gonna say and do when you have more cases like jake friend and boyed where it’s people tackling lower and causing more concussions. Cause it’s easy to tell a under 12s player to tackle low. It’s a lot different to say tackle low on first grade players

[@hansoloburger2322]

I didn’t realise the anatomy of the body was only heads waist an legs

[@dgenge9165]

Fouls need to be tidied up ....flagrant ....intent send off )personal non intent report)....6 again needs to be scrapped due fatigue causing carelessness in contact

[@dgenge9165]

Oh yeah if the ball carrier level changes and gets contact in head area he must come off with no penalty awarded..... defending player will "refered" to Match review committee...but not put on report ..

[@mrstraya7533]

can someone check out hadleys eye

[@gripandhikekettlebells]

These journos are not basing their arguments on scientific evidence

[@danielkelly4487]

Look at the Boston report from the nfl heaps of evidence to supports concussions or injuries to the brain , impact on it later in life

[@imalwaysright]

The KZbin trolls are? Lmfao.

[@volkbeathollowaydealwithit2714]

So some old bloke has dementia oh yea

[@brendandredge1179]

Well done Hadley

[@jimjohnston4181]

Go watch soccer ya halfwit.

[@johnrambo6265]

killing the fuking game

[@patrickjohnson1309]

Bring back the biff and the shoulder charge

[@gameface614]

It’s always the journalist doing the talking. Pathetic.

[@roryt1985]

Vlandy’s OUT!!!

[@JoeKavana]

Relax. The guy saved NRL during covid 2020

[@roryt1985]

@@JoeKavana no, he didn’t, and even if he did does that give him the right to now kill the game ?

[@JoeKavana]

@@roryt1985 stop overeacting. The game is not being killed. It's being controlled with a stern order. You watch state of origin. The rules work. Players need to learn.

[@roryt1985]

@@JoeKavana yep , watched state of origin and I what I saw was a different interpretation of the rules to those applied in a standard league game. He is 100% killing the game. Radley’s shot on Pangai was 100% legal but he was binned, we now have players feigning injury and then getting up smiling, we have 120kg prop forwards wincing in pain and holding their faces at the slightest brush and then getting up as soon as a penalty is given. If you don’t think this is killing the fabric of what the great game of Rugby League has been built on then you can’t have been watching for very long.

[@boydawrdlights]

No one has an issue with the send off incidents. The players don’t have an issue with them. They (and the fans) have an issue with 1) coming back for a penalty for a minor incident 4 tackles ago 2) the ones that no one in their right mind believes puts a player in danger. The ones where it’s not direct shoulder to head contact. That first contact has been chest area and arm slides up. It’s not a penalty and no player is in danger. The refs have shown complete lack of feel for the game and what’s being asked. Those incidents are all that people have issue with. Stop penalising those beyond ridiculous ones, and sin binning some of those, and everyone will be fine. The two Radley sin bins were right, the report for the hit on Coates is where players and fans have the issue. The sooner the media and powers that be wake up to that, the sooner this gets resolved.

[@bradglawson4395]

Easy solution Accidental or careless or whatever Just turn the game to FFS oz tag. I will bet my life that the ray Hadley's, Paul Kent's, Ben ikins and alike will still be mesmerised and support and follow the game religiously even if it was oz tag.. So if people are truly concerned about the health of players into the future, change it. And BTW The world won't end if Rugby League is no longer a contact sport..

[@raphaelmalau1809]

Maybe they should add some more rules like, if a player stays down after a presumably high tackle or crusher should have their HIA or whatever assesment done on field and then be taken straight off and not be allowed back on field after a 5min or 10min period...and also if a player takles low (first contact) they have to play the ball infront of him not at the back to get the quick plays. Most of the times when players go low opponents end up over them and stands up to play the ball. Defenders wont even make it back to 1st marker. Maybe that might help. Players wont stay down if they are not really concused and also players would tackle low to stop the quick play the ball. Just my point of view.

[@volkbeathollowaydealwithit2714]

I thank the nrl youtube page because I just watch hoghlights now and have so since last year

[@cvarikos]

Ask any fan when you look for old footage of players (Benji side step or Brett Kenny weaving through defences) and games on youtube, the vast majority of people are looking at tries being scored or a skills montage of a player. Thats the nucleas of the game not the late tackles or careless high tackles. So any old timer arguing this tears at the fabric of the game is completely out of touch. For them its a case of needing to change and people do not like change because suddenly you're not going to be as right as you were and take the time to investigate before talking. There is enough evidence out there to suggest V'Landys is doing the right thing. No-one knows anything for 100% but you have to look at a scenario and use all of the evidence available to you to come to the best course of action. In alot of the cases shown in the background, its obvious that the player doing the tackling has a clear view of what he's doing and where hes going to hit the attacking player. So its the tackling players responsibility to not make contact with the head. The mentality has to change, we know better so we have to do better. If players want to leave .. so be it, we will have a better more sustainable product in the long term. In many cases its not an issue of the concussion, its an issue of being told No. There are alot of entitled people out there who need a big dose of reality.

[@littlebigslipper8170]

love the game and I hope they sort it out very soon, Otherwise, the worst-case scenario is, (Europe is seriously fucken doing it) in other countries, the connection between contact sports concussion and the increased chance of dementia, depression and suicide, has been proven. and governments in some of these countries have been forced to step in because neither the clubs, players and/or sports board could not be shown to have duty care to themselves, to their players. anyone that has taken a safety induction in Australia should be able to answer this basic question; who is responsible for safety? a, you b, supervisor c, owner of the company d, everyone They are creating new tax and insurance categories for contact sports, just like they do for boxing and MMA. (Remember in an MMA/boxing fight night there are maybe 10 fights on the card, That's all most one AFL team) Then the killer blow if the government has to make stand for duty of care for children/minors; no public schools will be permitted/allowed to play and/or provide facilities to support this sport. any child/minor under the age of 17 can not apply for a license to practice without the witnessed signed consent of their parents/guardian.

[@matth6900]

The emotion and passion comes from remembering that once or twice as kids we managed to pull off a massive shot playing footy and the best shot is a shoulder charge (not head high) hands down. They took that away now they're doing this and it's turning the sport into a cartoonish joke of itself.

[@djk083]

I feel like we're watching the dementia ward in this video haha

[@edgestanden4770]

Bring in the C T scans of players on the footyshow everyone to see

[@canwelook]

So much panic here in the comments section. Some players are slower learners than others, but they will adapt. The immediacy of being binned, seeing their team mates suffering a man down, WILL ultimately cause them to adjust their aim from shoulder height to nipple height.

[@stefanocioni2587]

bring back the hayne train to teach em a lesson

[@imalwaysright]

Oof Ray & Crawf went in. Good on them. There’s not much you can disagree with. It’s sad hearing there are many more and younger players struggling in private. That’s why the NRL should’ve handled the crackdown better and earlier. There’d be more unity and ability selling the change. However, it’s now time everyone get over it and get on board with the change.

[@mudguts6785]

This game is over 100yrs old vlandys kept s--t afloat its the fans ,players and people who watch not vlandys you goose crawley. Its part of the job if you dont like it choose another job if your worried about the consequences later in life. The woke have destroyed this game its impossible to stop any contact as its a contact sport.Deliberate head highs sent off but accidents where the defender is not at fault no sin bin. All contracts from now on signed void the player from suing the game.

[@deepfried2601]

And if it’s that bad then don’t play the game, or just ban the whole thing, concussion is unfortunately a part of high impact contact sports, rugby league included

[@rickyjones2346]

Complete lack of respect towards not only the fans but the players. Kenty has lost the plot.

[@riposter69]

Ikin in the only person talking sense. He asked the most important question "other than head high tackles" what are they doing to and for the game. If the majority of concussions are caused by collisions not head high tackles then they arensignalling

[@danielkelly4487]

Your missing the point mate , it’s a collision sport they accept there will be accidents. But to minimise concussions ruling out an illegal play . when union did it they found there were 28% less concussions in the game

[@riposter69]

@@danielkelly4487 Fair point but they aren't "ruling out an illegal play" head highs have always been illegal. They are just penalising incidental and accidental contact to the head more severely with the sin bin/on report. My question is why are "accidents" like friendly fire head clashes and low tackler knock outs accepted by both Union and League? But I accept your point that if the crackdown does minimise concussions that's a good thing. My feeling is that if the cause of CTE is mainly due to these accepted accidents, cracking down on head highs will have little long term impact. I wonder if Steve Mortimer "lost his brain" because he was illegally targeted with head high shots or just the mundane accumulation of the low tackles he had to do due to his stature and position.

[@danielkelly4487]

@@riposter69 it’s a contact sport mate accidents happens the players know this and they accept it ! But the game would open themselves up to massive lawsuits if they don’t crackdown and allow shots to the head to happen and don’t police the rules Apparently there’s a class action suit on its way against the nrl There isn’t enough studies done to say if it’s a direct cause or not but it’s a contributing factor . Steve Mortimer was in a different era there was just about anything goes back then

[@MrMeldarionx]

The knees in the back to the Roosters player didn't even get sent to the bin or put onto report until after half-time.

[@jimjohnston4181]

It's match fixing dude .... look at roosters vs bronco after that .... then manly vs knights on the weekend ..... it's like there figuring out which game on the weekend punters are betting on the most and then they fix that game .... makes the most sense to me.

[@jimjohnston4181]

Those three reports won't be able to get around in public if they keep this up.

[@reoun1654]

Anyone thinks the crackdown is bad for the game needs to walk in the shoes of Mario Fenech the great hard man from the Rabbits!

[@DoggyZworlD07]

These guys call themselves journalists yet they haven't researched what their talking about. If they did, they'd see that the stats show the majority of HIA's comes from tacklers going low and catching a hip, or knee to the head. To make things worse, they're actually promoting this type of tackle, stop going high and go down low, so U can get knocked out lol. The problem here is the refs are judging accidental head highs as deliberate, and they're not. A tackling defender, who is centimetres away from a ball runner like Tadesco, who likes to duck trying to avoid the tackler coming high, can't change his position if he doesn't know what the other guy is going to do and duck's on u. Or an arm bouncing up off the runner's ball carrying arm, accident's will happen, it's a contact sport, and they should be penalised on field, they shouldn't be sin binned, nor on report. Deliberate head highs, yes, it's always been the rule, but accidental ones can only be stopped if u actually change the game to an oztag league for the pro's. That way there's no accidental head highs, and no low tacklers getting KO'd, everyone safe. And the most boringest games ever to watch lol.

[@imalwaysright]

You’re proving their point, because blows to the head cause increase brain damage, no matter if it’s from the player tackling or from a player receiving a high shot. The whole discussion is about protecting heads.

[@jimjohnston4181]

Murdoch and his puppets.

[@Jecko1094]

Well said by Hadley and Crawley.

[@dinosaucers6704]

So a degree in journalism, is now a medical degree?

[@itsfqndave]

The NRL need to also be ensuring they're advertising to parents that 1st Grade is NOT what their kids play on the weekend. The game has invested millions in ensuring the game, its rules and the style of play at the junior level is as safe as can be. Yes, concussion, tackling practises and HRE is important, and ensuring that we minimise concussions are extremely important but rugby league isn't a game for everyone. Part of the spectacle of the sport is the physical battle. We can still have a physical battle whilst maximising player safety, but the idea that we have to pander to those on the fence is ludicrous.

[@rickyjones2346]

Killing the defensive side of the game. Absolutely going to turn the game unwatchable

[@imalwaysright]

Everyone’s still watching

[@rickyjones2346]

@@imalwaysright i didn't say people weren't watching I said its going to make the game unwatchable

[@williamkep7697]

Vlandys has killed the game with 6 again bullshit rules changes