Crazy Expensive BR Crate Tool

[@RobertoPerez-lr6hm]

Great job on the "crate hammer-spade bar"! I'm glad you are now saving the "patina" for those "patina-lovers" that watch your channel. I'm slowly getting better at tool restorations, mostly due to your helpful/informative videos. I'm searching through your videos and don't see one specialized in "painting recessed tool lettering". I have to re-watch your videos to focus on tiny bits concerning the painting. Now that I too would like add paint to recessed lettering, after mastering the de-rusting & polishing, I need such a video bad. You are certainly correct that tools on " the bay" are being over-priced, but we are getting ripped off in other ways, like I bought a Kraeuter Block Chisel (just to polish it out & practice skill-building), only to find out it was really, really used, to the point it was over 1" shorter than factory. All these rip-offs could be avoided by attending "flea markets" and garage sales where we can really study the item at hand (and figure its real value).

[@glengrossnickle4985]

Great job on the crate tool. Me and my son just had a talk about collecting. He collects what he likes. If it turns into worth a lot thats fine. If it doesn't he is having fun. When he was little I worked in the mall at a Montgomery Wards store. When I worked a weekend I would go a few stores down and buy Hot Wheels 2 for a 1.00. The salesman one time asked me what I was doing with them. I told him for my son to have fun and race around the floor. He thought that was bad it was worth more leaving them in the package and not playing with them. I just laughed at him and and said right now he is having more fun then they will ever be worth. Thats what counts. Stay safe and healthy my friend. Thanks

[@ScoutCrafter]

Hot Wheels and Baseball cards were big collectables because so many were destroyed! When the "collectable" cars and cards were re-released nobody destroyed them and kept them pristine. The Value never increased. What's worse is reproductions would kill the values of the originals! Worse then that is kids aren't collecting anything today! =D I have lots of junk but I always realized it was just that, cool junk! LOL Thanks!!!!!

[@patjohnson3100]

That is very good advice about the tool collecting hobby. Dont lose your sense of proportion. I think when some people put sky high prices on tools it is just a shot in the dark to see if there is actually someone out there who might go for it. They probably know those tools dont have such monetary value. I see some young people whose main concern is the next high tech gizmo. They couldn't care less about old tools. But I have also seen others who restore and maintain antique stationary gas engines, and really know what they are doing. One young man at a tractor show had a standard size plywood sheet of ancient tractor tools. The plywood was covered edge to edge with scores of the oddest looking ancient wrenches etc. I've ever seen. Very nice job on the crate tool.

[@johncrable3349]

Hi Scout. . . . The spade end was probably the coolest part of that tool. I also thought the fading back and forth (before and after) was a very nice way to appreciate the work. Thanks for sharing and have a happy day!

[@marcmckenzie5110]

As a kid I ate Kellogg’s Corn Flakes every morning, and I feel cheated that a harpoon-hammer never fell out of my boxes! I try to imagine what my mom would have said when one our brown bowls we purchased with Green Stamps, shattered with that spade-tip stuck into the kitchen table. 🤪👍🏼🇺🇸

[@billwest7274]

Wow! That crate tool turned out beautiful. The stingray end of the tool reminded me of a hood ornament for the 50s. And there was a lot of great advice at the beginning of your show today about collecting tools or anything else. Again excellent show today.

[@stewartew]

I think the "patina boys" are probably in intensive care as we speak, recovering from their meltdowns.

[@ScoutCrafter]

LMAO

[@ihrescue]

Actually for a box or crate cutter that has some nice features. The spade end looks like it would be good on those wide copper like staples and allow you to pry them loose. Also good or slice taped ends. There's more to that spaded end than we know. Intriguing. It seems like some of the mushrooming of the hammer head and deformity of the claw that it may be a softer steel? I agree with your comments about some of the collecting and driven prices. Vintage vises are real expensive. Good video.

[@AndyB1968]

Great video, as usual your project looks incredible. Great advice today. The things I restore come off the Motorways and Highways in the UK 🇬🇧 I find torches, hammers, screwdrivers, spanner’s, wrenches and all other kinds of stuff. My best finds have been a rooftop tent from an off roader, a 160amp solar panel and a Snap On work light. I enjoy repairing and renovating everything I find. Could do with finding a big bench belt sander, lathe, press, grinder and polisher, pity they don’t fall off trucks very often 🤪 so far, my only expenses have been sanding discs, wet n dry paper and the odd spot of glue.

[@joemoach832]

Great job as usual on the crate tool. I agree, many in the younger generation have no appreciation for a quality tool or the workmanship that went into making them. Many of the tools I have were passed down. I just hope I can pass them down someday.

[@AaronBelknap]

I like your thinking! I always heard "you are going to ruin that!" I would polish the brass on my muzzle loader gun that was my 2nd cousins. I inherited it and I like the brass clean. I heard "you took the value out of it", I said who's value, mine? I'll never get rid of it so it's mine to with what I want!

[@stanellis7805]

There are many of us taking up the hobby but you are The Godfather!! Thanks Scout. Awesome!!!

[@larryborkstrom3580]

Glad you were able keep complement of Kellogg I've been restored old tools and licks and don't spend too much on it and have fun

[@teresaschroepfer3695]

I love it!!! it looks like a weather vane.

[@blackbearhiker1420]

Love it John. Great work and you are right. It's also going to last years longer cleaned proper. But.... I gotta disagree on a point. Young people love the old tools. Sad part is it's like model railroading. A lot of old times write off the kids cause they look different, talk different or just a lack of connection. Be open and reach out. You'll be surprised.. oh, and a young neighbor asked me if I could teach him to use a mortise gauge! I'm thrilled!! Happy Tools friend!

[@ScoutCrafter]

It’s not the youth that has changed, it’s the educational system... 😃👍

[@johnkelley9877]

Some prices for anything being sold online is often outrageous. Your right, shop carefully. The crate looks fantastic and I was impressed with how much patina you removed. Thanks for sharing this.

[@805ROADKING]

Beautiful job Mate!! Great advice on collecting!!☺

[@davidgibson9866]

I stop and think about the non Cursive writing generation and how many things aren’t on their radar. We all enjoy seeing your collection of treasure, it’s fun and brings back memories 👍🏻

[@jayhiz3514]

Love your videos. After a long day in the salt mines, your voice is so comforting. The video's are great

[@JohnSmith-yl6dn]

The Kellogg's branding is what makes that tool historically interesting, much more so than if it were blank. Glad you were able to keep most of the stamping. Patina = Neglect. I understand that some tools can age in such a way that it really gives a lot of character and charm to the piece. I respect that but also respect a historically accurate restoration as well. It really does depend on the tool and what you think it's fate should be. Freedom of choice.

[@bigpete4227]

He who pays the piper calls the tune. You paid the money for it so it’s yours and you can do whatever you want in my book. Also, it is now what it should have once been. As you said before, the designer never designed it with forging marks and other imperfections.

[@WaterBearOfficial]

Hey you managed to keep the kellogs text. You def got me into restorations! My first restoration was a fire hydrant. You had mentioned hydrants in a past video. They threw out a neglected bent rigid pipe wrench at work and found a bent fuller pipe wrench made in Japan at a farmers market ($3) that i hope to bring back to life soon!

[@ScoutCrafter]

Vintage Fire Hydrants were literally pieces of art! Same with vintage sewer covers... People who take pride in their work go the extra mile... =D

[@paulsworkshop4179]

Great looking restoration. I was just telling my son to collect what like, not for value. He has been getting into coins.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Coins have always been a smart investment... 😃👍

[@jamesalsup9135]

Excellent work and the commentary about collectables is spot on.

[@johnduff6436]

My grandparents ran a country store in Perry County, KY in the 30s-40s they recieved one of those from their grocery "jobber" or distributor. My grandfather held on to that tool at least in the early 70s when I last remember seeing it. Thank you for the memories, sir.

[@marcmckenzie5110]

John, I really enjoy it when people share a personal memory of a tool. It deepens our understanding of history, and makes them more than old shop tchotchkes! Thanks for sharing. 👍🏼🇺🇸

[@Michelle-Eden]

That was great. Especially enjoyed the back-and-forth before-and-after transitions at the end.

[@timeflysintheshop]

A note on the weight change. When you weigh the tool and compare, we kind of assume the total difference is lost steel, but its not all steel that came off. Rust (iron oxide Fe2O3) is heavier than steel! So a new tool is lighter than the same tool rusted🤔. Hmm that could be a good future video. 😀

[@unwired1281]

So there you have it Scout barely touched it! lol

[@arthurleap4562]

One of my favorite places to go eat is cracker barrel restaurant great home cooked food and the coolest antique tools hanging there every were. Thanks John👍

[@rogermcdonald1607]

John that was me that suggested to save the grindings for the patina boys. I think you not only restored the crate tool, you improved the tool. I bet that made the patina boys really pucker up! LOL. You paid $20 for that and i would pay $50 for it since you restored it and you could keep the patina for the collection jar. 🇺🇸✌ Roger

[@jackthompson2132]

Another great video John. Good advice on the tools you restore. I pay very little for my tool but more for the tools to restore them 😂. To me it’s all about taking something that is trash and making it useable. And, it all started on your channel. Thank You! And great job in the crate opener. Awesome!

[@coldwoodcowboy4525]

I hear ya on randomly inflated old tool prices. I’ve been getting old tools to restore and use. I’m kind of a Millers Falls junky so I’ve been trying to find a good condition Millers Falls 737 corner brace. Not long ago they were $20 or $30. I thought that was high. Now they $80 to $300 for some reason. Good video, sir!

[@ScoutCrafter]

Yes! I remember buying one years ago and waiting for a nice example.. I found a NOS one and jumped on it. Back then you are right $35... It's an oddball and that is what attracts many collectors... Braces in general have bottomed out though as I see many for $1 at steam shows and it kills me!! =-D

[@lotsatrains]

That’s such a cool tool and what a great restoration I kept thinking that part that you called a stingray also reminds me of like a dragons tail what a cool shape and great advice on collecting too I believe the same on the lanterns that I buy.

[@mercuryrising9174]

That is the most badass crate tool I've ever seen!! I love it scout!! Beautiful outcome.

[@johnfix1]

Okay you reeled me in. I just bought a Multi Crate tool on ebay so I will be restoring it my way. And by the way your tool looks awesome.

[@zekeabercrombie3583]

Great topic tonight. Like many, I have a big shop full of old tools inherited from three generations of family craftsmen. As you said my kids have no interest in them and when the time comes I'm sure they will go to the scrapyard. The high-tech tools of today go obsolete very quickly when you can't buy parts (or batteries) and software is not supported any longer.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Zeke- One reason I dislike Battery tools of all types... Planned Obsolescence... =D Thanks!

[@evilla410]

Hello John, great job the tool looks awesome.👍😷

[@joeheilm]

Outstanding! The before and after weight was very interesting...the patina boys must have had to look away when you pulled out the patina jar 😱😱🤣🤣🤣🤣. Great stuff. Cheers

[@ROD59]

Where was the patina boy while you were doing that, lol. John, you are so right, here in south Florida an anvil is worth as much as gold even a tiny piece of railroad track is going for 60 dollars totally insane and forget about a metal lathe or heavy duty large vises you can't find them in this part of the woods , totally insane it makes no sense

[@357magdad]

That thing looks like a manta ray and a hammer head shark sewn together by a mad scientist! Now Chuck wants his own mini crate tool!

[@unwired1281]

Surely you can make Chuck a crate tool Magdad!

[@357magdad]

@@unwired1281 It's on the list!

[@cheekymonkey444]

For a few years I collected machine measuring tools. Rulers, calipers, wire gauges, drill bit grinding gauges, everything. Then they starting getting stupid expensive because of some fools selling on those websites. Brown & Sharpe and Starrett tools commanded a premium. I gave up collecting those tools because of the price. And there were tons of them around. Your right, the tool collectors of today are the last of the line. I hit auctions now and again. How many buckets of fine tools sell cheap. I guess when I pass my collections will meet the same fate. Little more than scrap. Sad. At least they were loved in my possession.

[@mrmicro22]

And useful.

[@cheekymonkey444]

@@mrmicro22 yes they were! (Are!) That is part of the charm of collecting, to use what you collected. So many people put their collections away only to gaze over them now and again. Use them for their intended purpose.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Nice restore, you are so right about todays kids.

[@timshel011]

Will you be opening a new wing to your warehouse for additional tool storage ? Regular people like me would be able to appreciate it...

[@patrickmeyer1967]

1. I often wonder what will happen to my grandfather's machinist tools and my plumbing tools when I am gone. 2. As far as "restoring it will ruin it, You need to leave the patina on it" goes. Its my tool collection, not yours. If I want to polish them and paint them I will, you can let yours rust into oblivion. ( I mean patina into dust) 3. Its all about having fun, relaxing, and learning new tricks/techniques. Its the "Fellowship of the old Tool"

[@alexstools]

A jar of patina sounds better to me then that jar of clippings you've showed before 😂 I think the tool turned out amazing, I always think you do them so fast. I spend days on the stuff I do. But please don't mention those certain boys again because it makes me laugh so much I have to pause the video. Thank you! Hope you'll have a great day and I look forward to Fridays (TGIF!!)!

[@unwired1281]

That jar of clippings is awful. You cannot unsee it. LOL

[@timwarren3501]

Great advice. Awe inspiring results. Thank you !!!

[@americobomba5109]

Thanks scout As always great video! As for the jar of pitina. Fill the jar, sign the top and sell it on eBay!!! Lol! Limited addition pitina by SC!!!

[@Resto-Rob]

Great restoration! I love the manta ray look. Awesome!

[@planejet42]

All is not lost! I'm 24 and love old tools and pretty much all things old.

[@ScoutCrafter]

My brother from another mother! =D We are dinosaurs that somehow were born too late!

[@teresaschroepfer3695]

I love my wood lathe. Where is the art of punching in a code? I throw more chips on me than anywhere else and I love it. One of my favorite tools my husband has gotten me.

[@martinringis7782]

John, another GREAT job on the CRATE TOOL. Was looking at some of your vids., this one from JAN. 6, 2020. Your RANT is so very true. The youth of today has NO grasp on REALITY. Not like our fathers & grandfathers. I'm from the COAL REGION of Penna. We were taught how to use & take care of tools & to RESPECT our elders. NOT TODAY !!!! You mentioned the HIGH FIVE, my dad, a W.W.2 veteran used that term when talking about the SALUTE. " You always had to give the Officers the HIGH FIVE ". We'll NEVER see men like that again . THANX for listening.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Hi Martin- I Honestly believe it’s the educational curriculum that is shorting our youth. The system isn’t teaching common sense. The youngsters are getting the short end of the stick. 😃👍

[@jordansimpson9519]

Excellent re-profiling job. This krate tool reminds me of a hood ornament and even a Avro Vulcan. That flap disc is made different.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Jordan- That flap disc was made of some composite but my old one might have an edge... literally! 😂👍

[@peteb2]

Yeah ScoutCrafter, even in teeny tiny New Zealand we have the same silly kind of thing happening when it comes to perceived value of an old handtool & whether it's a 'collectable' or just an old broken abused tool. They say the item will find its own level of fair value but i have seen some of the worst banged up junk sell in our local online auction site for silly money. That's when i ask myself if the auction winner just needed that certain tool & had no idea of its going rate cost or if some folks are just out to make a buck... A sticky situation.

[@budgillett9627]

3 hours doing what you love, I’d call that a great day!

[@richardblake3553]

That create tool is great, I don't like patina either. Great job Scoutcrafter.

[@rickcentore2801]

Nice restoration SC! Wow, you're upping to production values with the split screen before and after presentation. Also, collecting anything as an investment is a crap shoot at best.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Hi Rick! I've made the mistake of buying things thinking they will grow in value only to be disappointed. =D Live and learn!

[@denniswhite166]

It may take you longer but that's just you having fun for a longer time!!!

[@unwired1281]

Journey not destination.... well we’re talking tools so one is as important as the other. 👍

[@mrbenmall]

Nice restoration. That spade reminded me of my Dad's old Pontiac. I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on the kids and tools thing. As they grow older, many will learn to value the history and quality of the older stuff, just like we did. When I was 16, I wanted brand new stuff. I thought my grandpa's stuff was junk. I think it just takes exposure. In no small part, you help to educate not only guys like me, but younger folks too.

[@mrbenmall]

Mean to say "the HOOD of my Dad's old Pontiac."

[@ScoutCrafter]

Ben- I restored a '51 Pontiac Chieftain. Took me 15 years! It's not the kids that are at fault it's just the way things are. I remember collecting Lionel Trains as a young man. My Uncle said "One day kids won't even want these trains" LOL He was so right. Slot cars took over and now computer games... It is just the way things are. Rusty tools are the first thing to get thrown out after a death, I can tell you that for sure! =D

[@corydriver7634]

Kind of a scary looking tool, looks like a weapon. Looks good though.👍🏻 I can see the patina adds on FB Market Place now.

[@John..18]

Count me in for buying the jar of patina, when it's full.. I've just got too many shiny new tools, waiting for some "aging".....lol.

[@diannelogsdon6107]

Sell the patina on E-Bay. What did PT Barnum say? 😁 Another job well done, John!!!

[@billlink7116]

Nice job - I liked the split screen comparison.

[@kabirghuman7474]

Very good advice to buy vintage tools. thanks

[@adamfrost3976]

“Patina for Sale”, “Come get your Patina”!!🤣🤣

[@tooladdict7463]

Fantastic video John I’m sure there’s a message in there somewhere? All I got out of the video is I would like one of those crate tools and one of those mini Lathes 🤣🤣 PS what happens if you feel good about spending 200 bucks? Should you spend 400 next time just to make sure you get the feeling in the stomach 🤣🤣👍

[@ScoutCrafter]

Ben- Usually that gut feeling has to do with your income. $20 for me is not a big deal but for someone with no job or a family to feed it might be a lot. If your income is higher then you won’t get that worry until you are spending thousands. I’m sure Bill Gates wouldn’t sweat dropping 10k for a Tool! 😂👍

[@wadewells808]

The tip (pry end) kind of looks like a Stingray. Very nice restoration.

[@patrickomalley7460]

Thanks for making all the great videos 👍👍

[@paulbeaumont7485]

I think you’re off the PRATTS (Patina Restoration of America, True Tool Society) Christmas card list for that one!, I also hear that the ARSES (Anti-Restoration, Special Executive Squad) have also removed you from their mailing list. Great work J, keep it clean, shiny and bright! Don’t let the PRATTS and ARSES get to you!

[@ScoutCrafter]

LOL- The Brown Tool Boyz really hate me!

[@zipshed]

Wow the price on them is nuts! It must be because of the brand name on them. I must say it sure is a crazy looking thing with the harpoon end on it!

[@briantraxler1407]

50 grams! Beautiful patina, lost forever! Oh, the humanity!

[@upsidedowndog1256]

I think it turned out great. As an experiment you should list it on ebay in it's current condition and see what happens!

[@davidschaer8974]

What I'd like to know, is what the connection is between corn flakes and a crate tool . Did corn flakes originally come packed in a crate instead of a box? How did that P. R. conversation go at Kelloggs?( You know boys, what I think would sell more corn flakes, is if we gave away crate tools. What do ya think?)

[@bickle7207]

I would guess that the boxes of cereal were delivered to stores in big crates and Kellogg's provided the tool for the store owner.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Give aways were common years ago. It made good sense! Retailers love free stuff. A lot of good business practices would still do good again today if given the chance. Remember Green Stamps given at certain retailers? I think it would work today!

[@saigaking]

Great video scout I love the lines on this one the end looks like a stealth bomber wicked I’ve never seen one like that amazing job I’m sure the makers of these tools would rather see them our way rather than the patina boys way just saying ha ha god bless take care 🇳🇿🇺🇸👌🏻👍🛠

[@terencefautley5480]

Restoring this tool makes all the world's remaining cruddy ones exactly 1 more rare.

[@kathieharine5982]

What is really astounding about that restoration is that you could save the Kellogg Corn Flake inscription. Do you have a secret ? Or do you treat it the same as the flat areas ?

[@unwired1281]

He’ll say “just keep going”

[@ScoutCrafter]

Hi Kathie! On lettered areas I try to keep the disc as flat as possible to avoid digging into the font! 😃👍

[@cindiberg7718]

Anyway to find out if those crazy looking screwdrivers got patented? I have seen other restore videos use an engraving tool to make the letters deeper so they don't get lost during the restoration process. You mean if I had to take out a second mortgage to buy a tool?😁

[@ScoutCrafter]

Friday-

[@foxwood67]

I wouldnt have paid $20 for that tool but would gladly pay $40 now. BTW I also use Walter abrasive products including their All Steel flap discs. Very high quality but it maybe a bit aggressive for what you do. Anyway nice finish love it

[@not2fast4u2c]

The Patina Boys.....Sounds like a Car Club where the Guys drive Old Rusted out Pintos and Vegas

[@nikki13t]

Great job on tool .to me one end looked like the hood ornament off of a1954 Chevy

[@TJB1510]

MUCH BETTER THEN THE FACTORY TURNED OUT.

[@TJB1510]

3 HOURS OF POLISH....WoW

[@jerrybowen1635]

Love the split screen view!

[@SeanKroner]

Wow, that came out looking great! :)

[@michaelcampagna93]

Looks awesome, I’m with you it takes me a long time also when I’m working on tools and cleaning them up

[@rawbacon]

There's something amusing about Anvils being collectible, 10 years from now people will be paying the Scrap Man to come haul them away............I like to polish up odd things like an Old Lug Wrench I found in my Grandfather's Shed, I get more satisfaction from strange things like that than anything else.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Forged in fire got a lot of people blacksmithing again... ten projects later people are looking to get rid of their blacksmithing tools... =D The only hobbies that are faster getting out of are Pottery making and SCUBA diving. =D

[@ronsbeerreviewstools4361]

I think a tool is worth what some one using their head will pay, if its to high priced, give a price whats worth to yourself. Good job on that crate tool.

[@TrollBenable]

hey im 23 🙋 im curious how many younger people you have watching maybe ask next video?

[@daviddibella9432]

Crate tool came out great.

[@nelofernandez1459]

That was an amazing restoration and it will add up too your nice tool collection. I don't think its much controversial as a painting restoration, like they do at the museums, does it take off the value of the painting or does it add more value? Most will prefer to see it as it was when it was new, not just another rusted piece of metal.

[@johnpatrickcryan6182]

Great job on that harpoon.

[@JourneymanRandy]

At $150 for that tool 50 grams of patina is worth a whopping $18.75. Good one Scouter.

[@esmpo1]

I have an old slide hammer nail puller that was probably the counter part that crate tool.

[@GMAN1965]

Turned out great as usual. selling patina now that's an idea .

[@denniswhite166]

Remember Beanie Babies??? I worked with grown men who spent enormous sums of money on them claiming they would be able to retire early because the would sell them for fantastic profits - LOL

[@rossandersen942]

I had a neighbor who spent over $1000 for the lady Diana beanie baby. A Couple of months ago I saw a big bin of beanie babies in front of my local hobby store. The price was three for $10. The Diana beanie baby was in the lot.

[@MrHerbie76]

great restoration. If you had a number and letter die set you could've deepened the words on the back and kept them crisper

[@ScoutCrafter]

I have them but the fonts are always different and a double stamp looks bad too! =D

[@ronaldwilliams4290]

Going to start calling you the “ Miracle Man”.

[@bigmikeh5827]

Another great job! Looks good my friend.

[@19Bmiller]

Good advice for any collecting

[@aguycalledlucas]

SC, I’m curious to see if you place the restored tool with the jared patita on eBay for bidding, would the value increase or decrease?

[@ScoutCrafter]

The patina is highly sort after! 😂👍

[@johnfletcher2445]

Beautiful finish

[@terryhill6380]

Your famous 50/50 was mentioned on Craftsman tool collectors group on Facebook

[@ScoutCrafter]

Terry- That stuff is so great! Inexpensive too! Thanks!

[@schmidtythekidd]

Lol I just saw that ""Rare Limited Edition" Klein Lineman's pliers on eBay. I nearly choked when I saw that price. I bought a couple of US made Proto and Vise Grip locking pliers instead. Saved me a few thousand dollars.

[@adude7050]

Great video. I can't believe you took a break for dinner.,

[@ScoutCrafter]

LMAO- Abe I know you like me have been so into a project that when you finally stop your feet and back are killing you! =D

[@setdown2]

No patina loss on that tool your safe...👮‍♂️ stay safe crafterman....