CRAZY GAME-CHANGING DISCOVERY IN RISE OF KINGDOMS!

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Wick Gaming

Wick Gaming

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@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
THIS IS CRAZY! What will we discover next? Join our discord.gg/wickgaming to be the first to know!
@strapd-lb-style6532
@strapd-lb-style6532 2 жыл бұрын
I would be very interested to see these rage tests both rage gen and debuff on rally / garrison instead of pvp tests. Want to see if the dynamics how the game handles these calculations are the same in open field vs rally vs Garrison. Wonder if any slight differences apply.
@gummibear2793
@gummibear2793 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Wick, after this testing would you still say that it is worth it to go for a Horn for my Guan/Alex (I also have Rejuvenate in my talent build) or should I go for a different accessory (if yes, which one would you recommend?)?
@Jjenkin1988
@Jjenkin1988 2 жыл бұрын
Wick so if I have the silent trial can I then not use rejuvenate and put skill points else where? Or having skill talents in feral nature and or rejuvenate make having the silent trial a waste?
@fwriggs8731
@fwriggs8731 2 жыл бұрын
Thx for great content. Only downside is that all the secrets making a difference are secret no more. Silent trial has worked well for me in the past and allowed me to win fights I shouldn't. Now I hope people don't watch this video 😅
@alvarojesustorresquispe2882
@alvarojesustorresquispe2882 2 жыл бұрын
y si en un futuro sale un amuleto legendario que reduzca mas furia que el juicio silencioso, será muy roto.
@Ryan-es9xg
@Ryan-es9xg 2 жыл бұрын
You save me so much pain from making the wrong gear or taking the wrong talents. You are seriously under appreciated. Thank you so much.
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help! And thanks for being here. Share the video if you enjoyed :)
@user-qd1tg7vp6c
@user-qd1tg7vp6c 2 жыл бұрын
That was an impeccable experiment, I’m sincerely astonished at the way you designed this. aaand hey mom I’m on KZbin!!
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Heeeey here you go! Thanks for your comment!
@echidna7009
@echidna7009 2 жыл бұрын
And again, my question is why the F we always have to find out ourself that something is hidden working like rage gain, buffing just 5 marches etc. Why do someone has to ask his VIP support to get an answer. Isnt it absolutely easy to explain that somewhere in game and the case is close?
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know, maybe they don't want to reveal key game mechanics to avoid other games to copy them? Just a theory anyway
@echidna7009
@echidna7009 2 жыл бұрын
@@WickGaming Thinking about that, it does make sense from an investors perspective. But in an daily player basis, it does so heavily inflict the gameplay, that I can't see why you want to hide that from people that pay your bills as an company like lilith gaming.
@monkeyrun
@monkeyrun 2 жыл бұрын
@@WickGaming My theory is, all the "hidden" mechanics are not really intentional.
@diegozinedine514
@diegozinedine514 2 жыл бұрын
@Rok n Roll lol, i second that 😂👌
@unseenseer
@unseenseer 2 жыл бұрын
This "game" is a gambling simulator "pay to win" micro-transaction mess of dishonesty and fraud. People are so facking daft slurping it up and letting the kids get hooked on it too. Pretty soon we'll all be hooked up to the blockchain matrix where nfts of Trump's balls will be sold for other digital commodities of nothingness. Yuck.
@jbrown8566
@jbrown8566 2 жыл бұрын
This makes sense, I recently added 2 more silent trials to marches in lost canyon for a total of 3, and I went from being in the top 10-15 to top 5 in my kingdom.
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@moazamfareedwattoo5445
@moazamfareedwattoo5445 2 жыл бұрын
Now if Lilith doesn't make everything clear on rage mechanic, the drop in forging of rage giving accessories will be significant. Rejuvenate is always worth it i think but ferel nature is pretty useless. As kind of a data scientist myself, I really admire your work.
@Marcel123123123
@Marcel123123123 2 жыл бұрын
Makes rage reduction very valueble indeed. Thx for the testing
@roxxas_6836
@roxxas_6836 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine even the highest VIP support you get from paying ton of money can be wrong / provide unverified news.. Omg XD Really nice and useful video, thanks a lot for details !
@none_o_ur_bidnis
@none_o_ur_bidnis 2 жыл бұрын
Feeling pretty good about having 4 specialized silent trials.
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff bud
@ramgaming9475
@ramgaming9475 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think 4 silent trial debuffs stack
@F_K_1
@F_K_1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramgaming9475 yea they do i think
@scarmad2203
@scarmad2203 2 жыл бұрын
Best content creator here, so good that other content creators are making videos about his findings lol.
@jjthe
@jjthe 2 жыл бұрын
It is so frustrating that these tests need to be conducted at all. They really need to make the various mechanics in the game way more transparent
@megayogiperwira9347
@megayogiperwira9347 2 жыл бұрын
We need data not just what some people think like other content creator and Wick Delivered. Seriously, consider subscribing if you haven't. He deserve more than 29k subs.
@newtherapy
@newtherapy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wick. Keep up the good work. There are still more tests to do. Try Silent Trail, maybe it does not work as Amanitore debuff and it affects before the rage limit reduction.
@Hmoodzx
@Hmoodzx 2 жыл бұрын
I entered this video to know what talent tree I should use And left with math master degree
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahah good one
@Ridiculoso
@Ridiculoso 2 жыл бұрын
This kind of makes sense as to why Attack Tree and Defense Trees seem to be good. They don't generate rage fast thus allowing them to benefit from external sources like gear, commander skills, etc with less risk of over-raging, and Commanders with Rage Requirement Reduction (XY, Ghengis...) effects seem to be really good usually.
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Great observation.
@Taha.A
@Taha.A 2 жыл бұрын
you're genius, im f2p and i made the ring and dagger this kvk and i was going to make horn in the next kvk so now i know its not worth that much ♥️🌹
@lutfii26
@lutfii26 2 жыл бұрын
When u played for years but still doest understand the game 👀 ,thanks for letting us know sensei 😂
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@rokmain4080
@rokmain4080 2 жыл бұрын
Hey wick awesome video as always.. It was very much informative. Waiting for your new video about Horn, talents and other things that might not be as good as we thought and what should we avoid while crafting accessories and creating talents :)
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Sure thing!
@dinonano602
@dinonano602 2 жыл бұрын
Dagger / mora dont stack if theres 2 marches using the same equipment, but silent trial stacks if a march is attacked by 5 marches = -50 rage per turn right?
@mingyuwang6638
@mingyuwang6638 2 жыл бұрын
mind blowing... not only by the fact, but also MY NEWLY FORGING HORN
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
It’s still great!
@King_of_Range
@King_of_Range 2 жыл бұрын
This is the content we have needed for years. Keep it up! Wick Gaming to the top 📈📈📈
@ravindran5
@ravindran5 2 жыл бұрын
Okay that swearing in Italian was unexpected 🤣🤣🤣. But damn funny.
@muhammadvikral4367
@muhammadvikral4367 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just about to craft my first legendary equipment , and this video is mad! Save me 109 days of collecting the materials!!
@farhannaim8063
@farhannaim8063 2 жыл бұрын
Hey wick, just to confirm with the lilith support thing, have you tested with silent trial? i know it might be redundant, but, maybe the equipment applies differently from skills which means that the reduction is applied before the cap thus making lilith support be correct in that particular instance?
@nadeeshachathuranga4735
@nadeeshachathuranga4735 2 жыл бұрын
you're the scientist in ROK.
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Trying my best to provide you the info you need… Thanks for the support!
@nadeeshachathuranga4735
@nadeeshachathuranga4735 2 жыл бұрын
@@WickGaming is there any cap for reducing targets rage? As a f2p i always use silent trial for all my marches.
@pokerchannel6991
@pokerchannel6991 2 жыл бұрын
Commanders that lower rage requirement has just also gone up in value. Khan drops rage requirement by 100. Xy/Khan would fire off skill at 750. There is fewer turns in between where rage cap can make you waste rage. A shorter rage cycle (of 750) means fewer turns where rage cap hurts you. So, I think the value of Khan has gone up just a bit.
@nicholasbiamonte9120
@nicholasbiamonte9120 2 жыл бұрын
So, we know now there is a limitation upon rage, what about other buffs/debuffs? Such as commanders reducing defense, health, attack? At what point does the reduction cap? or does it continuously stack? That would change field fighting, in terms of bringing out multiple stat reducing commanders.
@gabrielsimoes1730
@gabrielsimoes1730 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s possible to narrow down the rage gain per turn even more by using Ceasar or Scipio. They both have two talents to gain rage when attacked. If you send Ceasar to fight Baular, controlling the number of barbarians hitting you, you may find more clues.
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah there are actually many ways, will try some :)
@jaycruz3690
@jaycruz3690 2 жыл бұрын
We need an updated video on the best 5 field march equipment from you Mr Wick. You saved me from crafting a second horn thanks! Personally i want to know if I should get a second dagger or Moras web with my 4 silent trials. Thanks again.
@creepyrkelly9275
@creepyrkelly9275 2 жыл бұрын
So. Could a march in theory be stacked on reduction to completely nullify all rage. Or with lilith tell us that is capped in the future. PS, seperate comments to help the channel.
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think there is a cap on rage reduction, potentially you could nullify an entire rage turn
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
But I will test 🤣
@endplay3743
@endplay3743 2 жыл бұрын
Mr Wick, I really think that the way you have presented facts in detail to support your point of argument is what makes you one of the most educating and interesting ROK content creators out there. There are a few that speaks without data/research, and the content itself is very raw and meaningless (and all I see is this random hype). I am sure that your viewers think the same and your rising subscriber's count says it all. Good job, and thank you.
@kenny9911
@kenny9911 2 жыл бұрын
They say RoK have their NASA governors.. What about making a talents tree update with This new discover?
@creepyrkelly9275
@creepyrkelly9275 2 жыл бұрын
what is the outcome for these testing with a silent trial on one commander and Silent Trial on the other. and also. Does this rage reduction stack. Will being swamped with amanitore just disable and rage gain?.....also let's start a demand for material refund if your findings are true. I have 2 horns
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Rage reduction effects will stack, yes, depending on the type. Multiple silent trials will also stack
@decentrik
@decentrik 2 жыл бұрын
@@WickGaming wait! So having two silent trials on one commander actually works?
@sdmh91
@sdmh91 2 жыл бұрын
@@decentrik one silent trial in 2 marches, you can't set same accessories in one march
@decentrik
@decentrik 2 жыл бұрын
@@sdmh91 oh yea!! 🤣 totally forgot about that. I need some coffee ☕
@Alpha_Chamber
@Alpha_Chamber 2 жыл бұрын
So what I have learned today: Is gravity even real? Are grasshoppers actually government spies collecting data on my usage of lawn tools? Are my parents REALLY my parents?! So much known...is truly unknown...now where did I put that tinfoil hat...
@sunnytheevil
@sunnytheevil 2 жыл бұрын
This reduces the best overall Season of conquest Accessory "Horn of Fury" so less valueable. They should have atleast made people known this rage limit before releasing such a expensive item in-game.....now atleast they should refund people who have forged it without this knowledge just like Artemisia and Chandragupta.
@Ritualsdecksarebetter
@Ritualsdecksarebetter 2 жыл бұрын
A silence minute for players who makes many Horn of fury and Karuak Drum to equip them both They are kind of f**k by Lilith right now
@TheDaoistheway
@TheDaoistheway 2 жыл бұрын
The most technical channel of rok, good works, thank you
@pepehands3844
@pepehands3844 2 жыл бұрын
These tests are getting real complicated, so glad we have you doing them for us
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Every case needs a different test and different commanders/talents to be verified, the tricky part is come up with the different tests but luckily me and my group of geeks enjoy doing this. The important thing is to have a neutral environment without any RNG.
@Viper-83
@Viper-83 2 жыл бұрын
numbers and facts in this video and not words as others have said… thanks for your precise analysis bro 😎
@discostuh211
@discostuh211 2 жыл бұрын
Another interesting question to add to the pot here. So if you are reaching the rage cap on your own does that mean that any buff marches in the area, such as Trajan, will only target your allies who need it? Or will buff marches target you regardless of the rage cap, thus making their buff completely useless if it is targeting you?
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I believe it will target random allied marches regardless of the rage cap.
@discostuh211
@discostuh211 2 жыл бұрын
@@WickGaming an interesting concept which could be optimized in the future so that rage buffs from nearby marches target those who need it instead of getting wasted on those generating enough on their own.
@PitBull78q
@PitBull78q 2 жыл бұрын
I stongly beleive that we should be told by Game Creators how exacly Rage Mechanics works. RoK Game Creators should make it very transparent and clear. We players should know it and be informed.
@david9243
@david9243 2 жыл бұрын
Yup since at the end of the day we are customers who pays for a product we assume works per the description. You shouldnt have to run complicated tests three years in to find hidden mechanics yourself.
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, but not even the content creators get info about anything...
@tardis24K
@tardis24K 2 жыл бұрын
Always amazed on how Wick scrutinizes info. This is really mind blowing
@pokerchannel6991
@pokerchannel6991 2 жыл бұрын
So, that elevates the usefulness of silent trial. ST will always have an effect, even if at rage cap: 220 - 10.
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly.
@moutan100
@moutan100 2 жыл бұрын
I think there is 5 turns limit to do a cycle even with xy 850 rage rage to cast his active skill
@pumpkinouo359
@pumpkinouo359 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you so much better than the other content creators??? This is what we need.
@Gheorghe.C
@Gheorghe.C 2 жыл бұрын
The Italian came out, in a 0.000001 seconds 😂😂
@EliasSipsTea7030
@EliasSipsTea7030 2 жыл бұрын
Leonidas has 15% rage accumulation increase so does this somehow affect the rage cap and does this affect any other rage related effects Also xiang yu has 900 rage requirement and decreases this rage requirement by 50, does he also effect in some way the rage cap and other rage related effects
@korneliuschandraw3431
@korneliuschandraw3431 2 жыл бұрын
If this true, then leonidas' value will be increased
@moazamfareedwattoo5445
@moazamfareedwattoo5445 2 жыл бұрын
some people are so tech unaware that they press dislike buttons thinking of it as download button.
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha this is a good one!
@WaterMelon-Cat
@WaterMelon-Cat 2 жыл бұрын
The guys over at infantry fortress discord can't comprehend this. They swear that getting 300 or more rage per turn makes them cast so much faster than if they got 220. Can't argue with mindless people lol.
@DezireTunes
@DezireTunes 2 жыл бұрын
2:20 I asked the same question in your discord 3 days ago, glad someone else ask by coincidence
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Multiple people did, I probably only picked the first one I saw xD
@playeris1576
@playeris1576 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Wick, thanks for the amazing video once again! I've some questions, 1. When the secondary commander is silenced, the rage can be seen still being gained, but if the primary commander is silenced (especially when silenced by Guan), is there rage gain when the primary commander is silenced? 2. Does the calculations yield different results if we consider base 126 rage (108 + 18) instead of 121 (103 + 18) since base rage is between 103 and 108 as you mentioned?
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
1) Good question. When the primary commander is silenced, you will be stuck before casting the skill, in fact stopping any further rage gain. If the silence delays your active skill, you won't be able to use the rage accumulated and you will need to wait extra turns to resume your rage accumulation; 2) No. The calculations will not be affected in terms of turn casting the skills.
@playeris1576
@playeris1576 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wick for the insights!
@klementzhobro1152
@klementzhobro1152 2 жыл бұрын
Dude i was 1 epic leather from crafting horn of fury thank you thank you
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Craft something else if you are not a rally or garrison leader. Maybe the Dagger is the best pick for you.
@Phidias
@Phidias 2 жыл бұрын
it is always nice to see you further testing on the rage meter. I love your reaction in italian XD
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! Yeah the Italian in me came out xD
@Phidias
@Phidias 2 жыл бұрын
@@WickGaming looking forward for your next discovery on the actual rage gain per turn
@rickygage4024
@rickygage4024 2 жыл бұрын
Would you declare horn of fury is a bad investment if you are not a garrison or rally leader? 🤔
@flinch4952
@flinch4952 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for answer since I can't think of anything, just got blown away with the discovery lol
@renedaniels9195
@renedaniels9195 2 жыл бұрын
Horn has a 30% chance every turn to provide 50 extra rage. This means on average you should get 50 rage 3/10 turns. The base rage is between 103 and 108 per turn. If the total rage gained in a turn exceeds 220 then, the rage is wasted. This will only happen when horn triggers rage gain on the same turn feral nature or rejuvenate would. Feral nature plus horn trigger at same turn = 3% chance. In 97% of turns horn will not lead to over raging. Rejuvenate plus horn trigger at same turn = 6% chance. In 94% of cases horn will not lead to over raging. My conclusion is that horn is still an excellent accessoire for both rally and open field. Especially in situations where a shorter skill cycle benefits u hugely.
@rickygage4024
@rickygage4024 2 жыл бұрын
@@renedaniels9195 what about Joan's and Trajans thrown into the situation? I wasn't necessarily referring to 1v1 field battles.
@renedaniels9195
@renedaniels9195 2 жыл бұрын
@@rickygage4024 Yes so with a base rage of 103. A plus minus 9 to 18 base rage from talents every turn. And a buff from Joan (50 per turn) and a Horn trigger (50 per trigger) gives u 212 to 221 rage per turn. So Even with buff from a Joan or a Trajan my previous post was true. Now when a Trajan and a Joan at same time would buff rage gain (Big murder ball) and that turn horn would trigger also there will be rage waste. So in murderball there will be some turns where rage is wasted. If there are multiple Trajan and joans this chance increases. But outside of that this chance is much much smaller and horn is still excellent choice.
@stitch6173
@stitch6173 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda shows why XY/Khan with Horn and ST are deadly in sniping scenarios. I used it a lot and even guan cannot silence fast enough with those 2 accessories.
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, exactly!
@stitch6173
@stitch6173 2 жыл бұрын
@@WickGaming add the fact that both horn and ST are critted and it becomes a real killer march 🤣
@arpitarora293
@arpitarora293 2 жыл бұрын
Dang I had a epic accesory blueprints chest and thought , silent trial is useless now with so many comms out there like william or Joan or Trajan but now lol i'mma make it
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Make it, it's good
@controlfreak4629
@controlfreak4629 2 жыл бұрын
on so u reach ur rage cap. the rage u gain after that is not added then reduced to the cap, its just not added at all . or am i wrong ? . and then this scenario would only work in testing but not in real combat/field fighting . and with the cap on rage u basically don't have an over raging because the rage u gain is not reduced , because its not even there in the first place. so if you're getting attack by multiple marches with multiple silent trials, and commanders that debuff ur rage . u better off with more rage mechanics than not having rage regen
@lilreginald01
@lilreginald01 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Wick. Great video bro but I still have the same question that I think Drago had. If you over rage, do you lose part of the rage or do you lose the whole thing? Let's say you have horn, Joan buff and rejuvenate. If after the total rage gathered the horn that would give 50 rage would take you from 200 to 250. Will you will get 220 and only lose 30 extra rage or does the game says 250 is over the cap and just drops the whole horn rage and you only get 200?
@razor8507
@razor8507 2 жыл бұрын
Good question I'd bet you only lose what's over the cap, if not then it even hella worse lmao
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
You just lose the extra rage gained, not the whole item/skill/talent that made you overrage. I can confirm this :)
@lilreginald01
@lilreginald01 2 жыл бұрын
@@WickGaming thank you for the reply. Awesome that's a silver lining
@alhassanmadani8767
@alhassanmadani8767 2 жыл бұрын
That makes comms like xy and khan more valuable 🤔
@SEMOGBRASIL
@SEMOGBRASIL 2 жыл бұрын
one doubt: as I can see, the amount of rage after the skill is release was not go to next round, for example: if i have 1050 rage (so the skill will be release) and earn more 220 rage i will have 220 and not 270 rage (220 + 50 (amount of left after the skill is release))....this amount, 50 will be discard, right? so, the question is, what about the commander Edward? his discription said that he will lose 300 rage after his skill. I thought the rage accumulate , what make sense for Edward description.
@1975reispedro1
@1975reispedro1 8 ай бұрын
I like to ask you about best 2 options for city garrison without having the tree branch dedicated. I have Magno Zenobia and Jadwiga Artemisia or other option you may consider Thanks
@PitBull78q
@PitBull78q 2 жыл бұрын
Just another superb content from Wick. You should call whole so callled Rage series: "Where only Wick dare"
@arunlijoo
@arunlijoo 2 жыл бұрын
OMG are you kidding me :D so glad did not get horn of fury... now all the talents for commanders needs to be modified.. Wick, please help us with new talent tree if possible
@mikec808
@mikec808 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wick. Again your use your valuable personal time to help players understand this very complicated game. Much love and respect.
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated
@ruslanl8844
@ruslanl8844 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to respond to that Korean player last video. Reduction did work when j tested because Richard started to cast healing a whole turn earlier and out damaged a richard that was expertised. I'm happy you tested because I also have trust issues with claims haha
@pbblbnk5211
@pbblbnk5211 2 жыл бұрын
I've encountered a problem with my Trajan testing. In theory, if he gets 6 rage from hidden wrath and 9 from burning blood, he should have a 6 turn rage cycle (with rejuvenate and his own rage buff): 220 + 165 + 220 + 165 + 115 + 115 = 1000. He does have a 7 turn cycle tho. Considering that the base rage might not be 100 but 103 it is even more strange because then he has 1012 rage after 6 turns. Note that in my testing the trajan march was winning so it didn't have the extra rage from losing. Since it has already been proven that the base rage has to be 103, there must be something wrong with either the talents or his skill. Would be great if you could do some testing on that.
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Post screenshots / detailed testing conditions on Discord and maybe I’ll be able to help. Was it in a neutral environment? Cheers
@alon2174
@alon2174 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your videos bro. Can you make 1 about the difference between shield effects and damage factor? Theres clearly a difference. And also about alex expertise skill,from my testing it's not working right
@scalabriniroberto
@scalabriniroberto 2 жыл бұрын
For non italian speaking people, the "porca...!" yelled by Wick is a very polite compliment for ladies! Use and abuse it!
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
It's really not, don't use it XD that's why I bleeped it out hahaha
@jeffdavis8751
@jeffdavis8751 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone that plays ROK should be subscribed, great video bro
@nikhilwelcome
@nikhilwelcome 2 жыл бұрын
Best Knowledge from many if had to pick #1
@avengerankit6632
@avengerankit6632 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to forge the horn of fury now I wait for some time
@tsarski1
@tsarski1 2 жыл бұрын
If you are rally lead or garrison then it is still worth it.
@JB-sl9vg
@JB-sl9vg 2 жыл бұрын
Your explanations and notes are always the best! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Thanks, Wick.
@princeinlove01
@princeinlove01 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, best wish to you. After seeing this video I stop thinking to buy horn with kvk coin. Could you please rank those legendary accessories equipment that can exchange with kvk coin in the shop? As this coin is very rare and we can’t do it twice. Respect your efforts and time.
@alexfaulkes02
@alexfaulkes02 2 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on how leo factors in on all this. Is 20% rage gain a wasted skill? Or could there be a possible exception to the rule here?
@WaterMelon-Cat
@WaterMelon-Cat 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like 15% speed of rage gain makes over raging even worse and is wasted.
@DonatB98
@DonatB98 2 жыл бұрын
Wick thank you for this great insight, you are a blessing for RoK. Since horn of fury is not so hot anymore, which other accesories would you suggest for openfield on marches?
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Dagger, Mora's Web, Ring
@quocngoc6009
@quocngoc6009 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wick i will try 2/3 Rejuvenate on Zenobia
@SamuraiMe
@SamuraiMe 2 жыл бұрын
So basically rejuvenate and Feral Nature are worthless. Unless commander used for garrison or ralllies?
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Rejuvenate from Skill Tree is valuable. Rejuvenate from Support Tree is DUMB and should stay at max 2/3 (check my previous video). Same speech for Garrison and Rallies. But Garrison and Rallies still benefit a lot from items like Horn of Fury since there aren't many rage engines around or none at all
@ChazR25
@ChazR25 2 жыл бұрын
@@WickGaming Important note because rage buffers do not buff garrisons, right?
@chester69field
@chester69field 2 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video about the most appropriate talent trees according to these discoveries? PD: Your work is incredible Wick, thank you for your effort!!
@smoovjazz8029
@smoovjazz8029 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting thanks! Excellent video as always. But now the question is overraging that big of an issue that you'd risk underraging? For example, how much of that extra rage is actually wasted in the sense that it otherwise would have caused you to reduce your rage cycle by one turn if it wasn't wasted? I find rage cycles to be quite stable. Like using a horn won't reduce the cycle by 2 turns no matter how often it pops if you're generating rage at a high rate. But it will reduce by one turn. I find it particularly useful when swarming. Now if you don't have a horn and you're getting hit with silent trials, I don't like that scenario lol. There are definitely scenarios now where I think this info will help me tweak some things but I don't think it'll scare me off from doing high rage engine murderballs
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Surely not, rage is still very valuable. The only thing I would avoid almost 100% of the cases is Feral Nature. Even if that is still good when sneaking on marches to hope on a quicker proc. But that's a very limited case and reflect the playstyle of few players. It's entirely up to you and your needs, bud. I'm sure you will be able to find the best way for you. My job is providing info so players can make their own decisions :) cheers bud
@gjinro743
@gjinro743 2 жыл бұрын
Was going over reports with a specialized silent trial, so I think you really get more rage advantage using silent trial over the horn? There is no luck involved.
@kingleonel2098
@kingleonel2098 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Wick I have a question why on minute 12:12 your text says that horn of fury still great for Rallying and Garrison? does this mean that we should prioritize it over silent trial?
@AKHIL-zw2dc
@AKHIL-zw2dc 2 жыл бұрын
Bro you are honestly the best youtuber here for us bro. Can you specify if we need to update our talent trees or which commander’s (like XY) is horn good or bad for. 🌹
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I will make more content for this!
@ASSASINCPH
@ASSASINCPH 2 жыл бұрын
Lilith needs to refund the mats for Horn of fury. Thanks for the video, the best youtuber of RoK.
@fabiogravano2115
@fabiogravano2115 2 жыл бұрын
Ciao John e grazie per questi video che sicuramente necessitano di ore e ore di test. Now I am thinking about Desperate Elegy talent of defense tree. My Pakal has talented Horn of Fury and the talents that gives 9 rage per turn and 6 rage every time he is attacked. Doing some math in a non swarming situation: assuming 103 + 65 (horn) + 30 (desperate elegy) + 9 + 6 = 213 rage. So this combination should never over rage unless swarmed like crazy right? If swarmed by 6 marches the defense talent gives 36 rage to Pakal causing him to over rage… Is this right? Saluti da Finale Ligure.
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Probabilmente quel talento non dovrebbe essere preso. Farò un video con tutti i talenti. Grazie Fabio per il supporto
@TienNguyen-en2bp
@TienNguyen-en2bp 2 жыл бұрын
would you recommend special talent dagger with horn or ring or special talent silent trial for pakal harald rally?
@bitcoin5209
@bitcoin5209 2 жыл бұрын
From my experience in Rok and trust me is quite long( 1200 days)the only thing what’s work properly in this game is Visa 💳 the rest is just meaningless descriptions of something that does not exist.Ty Wick for your effort, great video ✌️
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that's another discussion XD
@rickygage4024
@rickygage4024 2 жыл бұрын
Sending love from 1258 here. We will use this knowledge to take down JST in our kvk. Thanks Wick! 😁💪
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck against JST!
@rickygage4024
@rickygage4024 2 жыл бұрын
@@WickGaming were going to need it. Thank you!
@camiloandresperezsanchez9219
@camiloandresperezsanchez9219 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you wick, i was going to build horn. Im so Happy i see this video. Now i Will do ring of Doom.
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Go for it!
@camiloandresperezsanchez9219
@camiloandresperezsanchez9219 2 жыл бұрын
@@WickGaming dude i have a question now... trajan is not good with this, right? i mean he bufs rage.... and i have another question, what happen with the commanders with rage that requires less than 1000 (khan xg)? i mean i guess for them amanitore skill doesnt work so well.
@__GR__
@__GR__ 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please create videos for updated best equipment accessories for all rally commanders based on the new discovery
@atharvapanse4003
@atharvapanse4003 2 жыл бұрын
Soo… I'm in KvK and I was planning to buy Horn. But since rage goes to waste should I get it or not? 🤔 My choices are Horn or Dagger. I'm going to use on cav commanders specifically Jadwiga, XY and Chandragupta
@flinch4952
@flinch4952 2 жыл бұрын
I already crafted horn of fury now i feel betrayed 😂
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Use dagger for open field. Horn is great for rally/garrisons
@atharvapanse4003
@atharvapanse4003 2 жыл бұрын
@@WickGaming i can forge 1 accessory immediately. And half materials for 2nd forge. And I don't know how much I will be needed for Jadwiga garrison 😂😂
@atharvapanse4003
@atharvapanse4003 2 жыл бұрын
@@flinch4952 i still need to get some coins for buying them
@firstblood3165
@firstblood3165 2 жыл бұрын
That was good test indeed, btw support commander aoer age (like Joan) sould fall under rage cap problem, shouldn't it? Or it wont be since that's not you who is getting the rage
@razer5845
@razer5845 2 жыл бұрын
The swear in Italian lol😂😂
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Italian in me wildly appeared in that moment XD
@Soupersout
@Soupersout 2 жыл бұрын
How would the rage cap work in terms of the additional rage gain from sun tzus 1st. If he’s hitting 5 targets that’s 250 additional rage. Is that 250 added or is it also capped at the 220 cap. Also how would Leo’s second influence how fast rage is gained per turn? Does it give more rage per turn or simple make rage turns happen faster?
@thebossofall3
@thebossofall3 2 жыл бұрын
Havnt been able to find the answer
@alvarojesustorresquispe2882
@alvarojesustorresquispe2882 2 жыл бұрын
Muchas gracias por esta calidad de contenido, estuvo muy bueno, que bueno que no hay un amuleto legendario que reduce la furia mas que el juicio silencioso. Saludos y gracias.
@petergriffin2889
@petergriffin2889 2 жыл бұрын
Wick evolving to be the Obi Wan Kenobi of rok with all this knowledge..you’re the best 🔥🔥🔥💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that
@markg3305
@markg3305 2 жыл бұрын
EDIT:Absolutely epic! I'm just amazed how much of the mechanics are hidden from us! Amazing video bro thanks for all your hard work! I am asking V.I.P support for a refund on my horn of fury as I was not aware at the time it was rendered useless all along 😁
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Don't ask, the Horn is great and it's not useless, I will make some content about where and when you should use it :)
@markg3305
@markg3305 2 жыл бұрын
@@WickGaming I would be interested to see that fit in my play style! I will patiently wait for your awesome point of view on the matter 😁
@_MrPotatoHead_
@_MrPotatoHead_ 2 жыл бұрын
Silly question perhaps, since the rage gain is limited to 220/turn, does this fundamentally makes horn useless on rage gen-commanders that have skill talent tree?
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Surely it makes it less valuable for open field. Not for rally or garrison, though.
@caocao6308
@caocao6308 2 жыл бұрын
value of pi is 105 : wick from the future here 😀
@mirandada6457
@mirandada6457 2 жыл бұрын
How about you make a video to prove him wrong rather than just talking?
@akhmadsaufi83
@akhmadsaufi83 2 жыл бұрын
so thats mean horn is useless for open field ? but can it still useful for rally/garisson ? because in the next kvk i will be rally leader/garisson
@AndrewJemmott
@AndrewJemmott 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Wick you have done it again.... shaking up the community lololol Excellent work on this series of videos!
@WickGaming
@WickGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
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