Melinoe Finds Her Father Hades 1st time & After beating Chronos | Hades 2

[@blacksage2375]

Hades II Player Priorities: 1) Get to pet Cerberus. 2) Find Zagreus. 3) Death to Chronos.

[@KongoMuller69]

I WILL FIND MY KING ZAGREUS EVEN IF THAT WAS THE LAST THING I SHALL DO!

[@fumarc4501]

For big pupper! For big brother! Death to Grandpa!

[@hartantoanggoro]

I wonder if Supergiant games allows Melinoe to bond with her brother over an Ambrosia and a hot spring bath.

[@anghainguyen9951]

​​@@hartantoanggoroMe: real life Greek god PTSD

[@cymikgaming1266]

@@anghainguyen9951 they had a habit with keeping it within themselves, Persephone is Hades' niece afterall

[@a-shanda-productions]

So Melinoe reflects her father the way Zagreus reflects his mother. That’s hilarious.

[@baydiac]

In myth Zeus is her father, who shapeshifted into Hades to trick Persephone. I'm not surprised this game got rid of that, because it's American Pie levels of nonconsensual. And I can tell they didn't go for it in this game, it won't even be a plot twist, because Melinoë is the spitting image of Hades right down to her flaming feet, just like Zagreus. No mistake to be made here, he's definitely the father.

[@diethylmalonate]

If we ever get to rescue Zag he's going to instantly get an aneurysm when Mel casually says "denied" or asks him to please not move her stuff from how she organized it

[@seokkchan993]

Brings the term "father's daughter" and "mother's son" in such a literal and poetic sense

[@ashec.6824]

@@diethylmalonate The organization thing is very funny to me because despite being opposites in that regard, they're more or less like that for the exact same reason - control. In Hades, Zagreus' rebellions are his way of taking control back from an otherwise orderly, overbearing father. He goes out of his way to keep it messy as evidence that he doesn't have to conform to Hades' whims despite being trapped in the House In Hades 2, Mel outright tells Dora that the reason she prefers things neat is because it's one of the few things she has control over in the face of overwhelming odds and the chaos of war.

[@MikeM-hf1qk]

*Insert Oedipus joke here*

[@yesthatmousyiris4887]

I noticed how soft Hades is with Melinoe. Breaks my heart seeing him struggling like this.

[@elijahcabacungan2915]

Same. Specially after all his development in Hades 1. He's notably softer on Zagreus at the later portions of the game. He even marks Zag employee of the "day" if you win enough.

[@ashec.6824]

It's also heartbreaking how much he softens specifically when he hears about her upbringing. On top of not being there to witness it like he would have wanted, it's hard to imagine he doesn't feel responsible for his daughter effectively being raised as a child soldier for the sole purpose of stopping something he 'allowed' to happen by not being prepared for Chronos.

[@AlmeaCulpa]

It's likely he's just softer in general. Presumably some time has passed since Hades 1, and he was already softening by the end of that.

[@silverblade357]

Hades has to be going through it emotionally. After reuniting his family and making amends with his son, he was determined to do better. He definitely had plans to be better to his second child, but tragedy spoiled those plans.

[@sodathejunker]

He’s a hardass, definitely stubborn, and pretty apathetic in most cases… but if I’ve realized anything from the first game he does care for his children in the ways a father needs to.

[@austinmorrison6953]

The fact that Zagreus and Hades finally start mending their relationship by the end of the first game. So I can’t imagine how heartbreaking it is to see his long lost daughter throwing herself into the fray against a Titan

[@ladyofrillwater]

Seeing Hades in Hades 1: fuck you, you're not my real dad, Achilles is my dad now Seeing Hades in Hades 2: PAPA! ❤❤❤

[@hartantoanggoro]

Hades in Hades 1 : Achilles might be your daddy, but I'm your father Hades in Hades 2 : Run now my daughter, run to safety

[@diethylmalonate]

@@hartantoanggoro also Hades in Hades 2: but here's some boons that only work on Chronos

[@GuiSmith]

@@diethylmalonateHe knows what his kids are like, might as well help out this time around

[@uqiam]

That „papa“ was so me when I first met him. 😂

[@luminozero]

@@hartantoanggoro Hades to Melinoe: "Oh dear, oh dear. Gorgeous. Hades to Zagreus: "You fucking donkey!"

[@JS-wj6vb]

I like how as one commenter said Melinoe reflects her father the way Zagreus reflects his mother. I choose to interpret that to mean that Melinoe is a Daddy’s Girl while Zagreus is a Momma’s Boy.

[@hartantoanggoro]

"Well said" says Homer holding his laughter and his grin

[@mesiagamer5217]

Ironically enough they grew this way away from said parent's

[@ghastlyghifin4029]

I like that a little congregation of Shades still flock around him, even in this state. "The living and the dead yet fear his name", indeed.

[@hartantoanggoro]

Skelly got a battalion of shades who followed him, listened to him and beat the senseless out of him.

[@MrKlausbaudelaire]

I like how despite having their usual cloaked placeholder art, they decided to have Hades's sketch since he's such a beloved character to not show the WIP of whats he's gonna like.

[@kaspergulljensen9665]

Tbf he is not the only character to have this kinda art. Though just in case I won't spoil who

[@silverblade357]

@kaspergulljensen9665 Yeah. Kinda surprised returning characters like Charon use the cloaked figure art and not just the previous art for now.

[@redliquid6775]

Makes sense. Makes it clear they are yet to get art. Avoids confusion

[@hartantoanggoro]

Cerberus doesn't know Mel and won't let Mel to pet him, that is sad

[@rockassassin64]

she doesn't know what head to scratch only zag did

[@hartantoanggoro]

​@@rockassassin64three heads, Alpha for Zagreus, Beta for Persephone and Gamma for Hades.

[@ApexGale]

it's probably gonna be a recurring subquest where cerb slowly warms up to her and you get an achievement for it lol. probably gonna add farmable satyr sacks that you can bring all the way to cerberus

[@hartantoanggoro]

@@ApexGale and yet the poor dog is a boss in the game.

[@ApexGale]

@@hartantoanggoro clearly once you find satyr sacks you can bypass the boss altogether

[@misfitdragonintheskyandsta6296]

Melinoe finding hades has the same exact feel and vibe as Zagreus finding Persephone, and I LOVE that they did that! I am kind of sad that you don’t find him AFTER you beat Chronos, like in the first game with Persephone, though… Also, I just realized that he’s shackled in the same place Sisyphus was.

[@Scazoid]

Where tf Sissy go then 😭

[@kostakonomi]

​@@Scazoid chronos must send him in another section of the underworld because he also hates him for his crime back when he lived

[@JacobCooper-in9tc]

Free my mans!

[@OnCuzImBored]

Bouldy?!

[@sundew3848]

You can still find him after beating Chronos, there’s actually dialogue about it.

[@Mauricio0973]

The sadness in Hades' voice 😭

[@hartantoanggoro]

He replaced Sisyphus from Hades 1 but unlike Sisyphus, Hades fate is the worst

[@thomasallen9974]

Damn kinda sad seeing the big man like that. But damn those boons are good. Also nice to see that his character development from Hades 1 did not roll back. He is much more openly affectionate. Shame Zag cant see how his work has paid off.

[@connormcnulty6377]

To be fair… he’s a prisoner. What does he have to lose? Plus, I’m sure he’s all for killing Chronos again.

[@hartantoanggoro]

Zag got his father's call at least and arrays of arsenal he borrowed from his dad.

[@oompaoomps2784]

I'm pretty sure he saw his dad get better. We don't know when the second game takes place but I'm sure in between games zagreus and hades had a better relationship.

[@l.n.3372]

​​@@oompaoomps2784 Zag and Hades are in the family photo with Persephone and baby Mel. I'm sure that Zag and his dad have a better relationship now.

[@matthejamman]

He does a sign of protection after giving his boon! That clap and the claw outward is an old sign of blessing!

[@Just_really_tired]

Something fun, this place is actually where lord hades trapped king Sisyphus. You can see bouldy with a rather dashing combover behind Cerberus. A fun detail

[@kaylenvee8150]

I remember me and my friends discussing Hades 2 and wondering how OP Melinoe's family's boons were going to be, cause they had to be GOOD good. Loking at Hades's boons, we were right. They have the capability to be absolutely BUSTED. Especially against Chronos.

[@hopefulfriend4163]

When Mel gets Zag's boon, she's gonna have the damn power of a super saiyan.

[@jacobhanson8083]

We already have his Arcana, and it's just a really strong core ability, and it nicely ties into his unbelievable persistence. I can't wait to see him, whether he helps in a fight, gives a Boon, or does something else entirely.

[@hopefulfriend4163]

@@jacobhanson8083 Ahh that's true isn't it. The wayward son, it said iirc. It perfectly fits him. Personally, my ideal choice would be something akin to Cerebus, he's under control so there's a huge boss fight that's hard as hell, then after the fight he regains control and gives you a boon in return while he either dies and goes to the Styx or gets transported by chronos. I just wonder how it'll be incorporated, if he's a permanent rescue or a temporary one to be tried again and again like Cerberus.

[@diethylmalonate]

I love how the speed strat in Hades 1 is to use Meg on Hades, and now he's doing the same thing to his own dad

[@nothingtoseehere9648]

It's kinda crazy but all of Hades Boons are absolutely busted... well, maybe besides Unseen Ire lol Deep Dissent is my favorite because cutting out 50% of the enemies in the Chronos fight makes it so much easier to deal with since Chronos alone isn't too bad

[@prisma.]

Love how Zagreus is Mommy's son and Melinoe is Daddy's daughter. So different but definitely cut from the same cloth.

[@zxadvent19]

“In the Blood” seems to have a far darker meaning now. 😔

[@helpfulDeathgod]

His "I'm sorry" killed me on the spot

[@yeeyw]

Anyone noticing hades room song is “its in the blood”

[@kathryn924]

AUGH. hades wants melinoë nowhere NEAR here and yet she keeps coming back. it's so heartbreaking knowing how scared he is of chronos, that he keeps having to watch his daughter run off, presumably to fight chronos, and presumably dying each time she tries. he tells her that it took himself and five other gods to do what she's doing alone. aushwudhjdhfekfjdkfjdk i haven't even PLAYED it yet and i'm already so distraught over this. i need to reunite mel with persephone and zagreus asap. auhsierhisbfjehfjsjc 🥺🥺🥺 edit: NOT THE ABSOLUTE DESPAIR IN HIS VOICE WHEN SHE TELLS HIM SHE'S BEEN TRAINING FOR THIS HER ENTIRE LIFE. he did NOT want this for her. at ALL.

[@GuiSmith]

Wait I didn’t even realise that’s Bouldy in the background! Gotta wonder where Sisyphus is hiding out, though.

[@fumarc4501]

“Risk not your Everything.” That hits different.

[@amerespectator3023]

The instrumental! It's "In the Blood"!!!

[@Acefdiamonds]

Yeah at first I thought oh it's just his theme then I started to mumble in the blood which is when I realized it's in the blood

[@abhinavnair7471]

I BELIEVE IN BOULDY

[@Ninjamaster-sq6vo]

AND BOULDY BELIEVES IN YOU

[@ShadowsWrath4]

@@Ninjamaster-sq6vo ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWER

[@alonso1075]

IN THE NAME OF BOULDY, BOULDY I ACCEPT YOUR MESSAGE

[@karanbharat1951]

i screamed out loud when i finally met him for the first time, and i SCREAMED LOUDER when you meet him without Cereberus and you meet another old friend. its truly amazing and i desperately ant this to progress.

[@eugenemccaul5652]

Damn i gotta play more

[@Acefdiamonds]

I love how the music is playing a softer version of in the blood

[@asdf852asdf]

The daughter preference is insane, Even after all of Hades 1 when he turns more soft and accepts his feelings, i don't see him ever treating Zagreus this nicely lmao

[@InkiBlues]

I mean you gotta keep in mind that this game takes place probably years after the events of the first game. I wouldn't be surprised if Hades had gotten this soft with Zag over that time period, we're just seeing the end result now with Melinoe.

[@rockassassin64]

@@InkiBlues slight Spoiler it is said after the first run i think. Melinoe. was born right before Chronos Attacked so it's how many years between game one and that + how old Melinoe. is

[@jacobkern2060]

TBF, by the end of the plot in Hades 1, his and Zagreus's relationship was already mended. By the time you get past the party with the Olympians, they fight mostly just to make sure that Hades is still up to the task of being the Underworld's last line of defense.

[@dormrifle6174]

tbf he was just trying to protect his son from his divorce and seperation all while he was prosperous and king but now hes meeting the daughter he never got a chance to talk to while kronos is fucking up the whole world and chained his whole family

[@colorblocker]

Might also be that the isolation and just not knowing where Melinoė was and if she got out alright after he sent her away as well. Like he's been completely cut off from his entire family, and knowing that one is safe, with that one being the daughter who was but a newborn when he last saw her, that has got to be a speck of light in what was just pure darkness.

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

God I LOVE THIS! I really hope Melinoė will meat Persephone and Zag too!

[@LilAnonomus]

Zag: Momma's Boy Mel: Daddy's Girl

[@NotInterXX]

I love the remix of Hades’ boss music in the background. Much softer, very beautiful

[@CaptainRed1000]

Part of me hopes we get a hidden final boss where we face Zagreus and Hades together. That would be such an epic, yet wholesome battle.

[@Latency345]

I feel like Zagreus will be the boss while Hades assists us against him

[@byunbaekhyun4010]

I really hope not, I don't want protagonists being pitted against each other when they're both on the same side. I like basking in zag's max skills and letting melinoe develop hers as the game progresses.

[@insertcreativename802]

@@byunbaekhyun4010 It could be in the context of a sparing match or just siblings having fun/bonding time. A postgame only fight for after the threat of Chronos is finally dealt with, The House Of Hades Inhabitants are Freed, and everyone is allowed to have a bit of fun.

[@LCTesla]

god no not another 300 hours of my life

[@ryantice1186]

It’s the curse we fans of Roguelikes endure. Think I have well over a thousand hours logged on the BoI games alone

[@LCTesla]

Just after I got "done" with Against the Storm (400 hours)

[@megablueflash1816]

300 hours? Nah after seeing the content in early access, we're gonna be locked in for more than double that.

[@Renkay141]

i need him to say it once 'death to chronos'

[@Troy_The_Boi]

Im really looking forward to see what the final version of the Hades sprite is gonna look like

[@therealstarMoses]

He’s in Sisyphus’ old room, you can see bouldy behind cerberus covered in moss.

[@crisluis2159]

hades witch his son hades witch his daughter is so relatable

[@EmerlyNickel]

I just realized the third time you visited Hades that Bouldy is behind him and Cerberus!!!

[@Techhunter_Talon]

I see Sisyphus's boulder there in the back... wonder what he's up to during the events of this game?

[@story_phoenix]

I just watched the cutscenes for Patroclus and Achilles and "risk it all" is what Patroclus says to finally get Achilles to let Zagreus take action. It's interesting to see that paralleled here with Hades and Melinoe. He's so worried that he tells her "risk not your everything"

[@kemonopriestess]

a version of "in the blood" plays here.. gosh..

[@neeaaa]

I love how the background music is In The Blood from the first game, also due to the bloodrelation.

[@rylands4289]

I love that Hades' placeholder image is the unrendered art

[@_litemadmike_2887]

Kinda ironic how Chronos left Hades to the same faith as Sisyphus, he's standing next to boldy

[@fumkioyuki8457]

I’m literally looking all over KZbin to find someone with some interaction with Melonie with either zagroues or Persephone I GOT NOTHING

[@CGInferno]

Early access only had so much. Maybe in the next big update there could be something else gotta wait for full release

[@fumkioyuki8457]

@@CGInferno wait its still early acesss i thoguht it was out from my google searhc saying may 4th guess i was wrong

[@lobstercrostini]

I thought this was a video about beating Chronos before meeting Hades

[@diethylmalonate]

doesn't seem to be special dialogue for this in his file. Might be worth checking for full release though

[@thelogicallarynx4380]

Pet. The. Dog.

[@OniyunYun]

we can't! the player tried but to no avail

[@th3blackghost214]

It pains me to see Hades like this reduced to Chronos's slave 😑

[@ibraheemahmad7404]

Hades with Zagreus: "You fuckin' Donkey" Hades with Melinoe: "Oh dear! Oh Dear gorgeous!"

[@nachopagan4153]

I was so in with the solemnity of these scenes until I realised Bouldy has hair and a beard. Now I can't unsee it without laughing

[@universe1879]

i never really noticed it but sometimes Hades’ theme has a Persephone motif in it

[@themathiasP]

I have not played Hades II (don't have a PC ...) and did not read any lore yet but I would not be surprised if Zagreus got corrupted by the Titans

[@wudan92]

is there a special interaction if you meet Hades for the first time AFTER you have already beaten Chronos?

[@jimstoesz3878]

I guess not even gods are safe from the "be an overbearing jerk to your eldest kid and a gentle sweetheart to your youngest" style of parenting...

[@ourochroma]

Hades here rocking the unpolished rough sketchy art style

[@zaki8809]

so you only find this after beating the corresponding boss correct?

[@diethylmalonate]

you find him on the way to the last boss. Avoid the number doors to improve your chances

[@zaki8809]

@@diethylmalonate oh yeah thats right since hades is in the last area you kinda have to beat cerberus XD my bad

[@queertyrant7179]

Hades is a such a girl dad i love it

[@white0thunderwhite0thunder71]

And where are his wife and son during this whole fiasco?

[@CGInferno]

Trapped by Chronos

[@Husbandodo]

i felt a certain "tristram" ost vibe, neat

[@Saltylingo]

he's in Sisyphus' room

[@austinmorrison6953]

Is it me or does Hades’ portrait look not as…high quality as Melinoe’s?

[@Mauricio0973]

It's still a sketch, as the game is still in early access. There's still a few characters who also have sketchy portraits or outright placeholder art

[@statisticserinokripperino]

Most but Chaos fish also have a generic drawing. Certain characters appear as clocked figures. Sometimes not long ago the keepsakes were looking identical, with but a tag attached to them that would bear a letter of the respective keepsake-giver. The roadmap that is available on the title screen mentions that since the game's yet in the early access, some art may be incomplete. Hades and a variety of other characters are one of them.

[@JIMT412]

If Demeter has something to do with this...

[@Mauricio0973]

Chronos also captured Persephone so not really lmao. She may not like Hades but she would endanger her daughter just to get revenge at Hades

[@JIMT412]

@@Mauricio0973 she WOULD or WOULDN'T?

[@MrCrunchytime]

​@Mauricio0973 Oh, Demeter would be a nightmare. If anything happens to Persephone, she automatically assumes Hades had something to do with it, and she won't be convinced otherwise. Demeter absolutely HATES Hades, like, "Kill Literally Everything" level of hate.

[@lipeghoul9312]

I don't understand if the story takes place in another timeline or if it takes place in the past

[@Aurora-313]

It takes place after Hades 1 concludes with the return of Persephone and restoring relations with Olympus

[@addmen96]

Deffinetly takes place in the future. Hades and his wife decided to make another child, then Chronos came and messed everything up

[@av799]

Watch the cutscenes.

[@Sultan-uj4jl]

@@addmen96do we know what of Zagreus?

[@bigejfi6157]

@@Sultan-uj4jlhe was frozen in time along side most of the other people in the house of Hades there’s a cutscene where Hades confront his father and we can see him there unable to move or speak

[@andremartinez5307]

Not putting spoilers in the title of a video would be outstanding.

[@MrCrunchytime]

I'm going to be "That Guy" and tell you to make your own video, and then you can not have all the spoilers you don't want.

[@diethylmalonate]

​@@MrCrunchytimethe point is that other people are going to get spoiled

[@andremartinez5307]

@@MrCrunchytime You're free to say whatever you want.

[@rockassassin64]

it's not a spoiler to say she sees her dad It's her goal!

[@rockassassin64]

@@diethylmalonate We know from the trailer she was trying to kill Cronos and save her family and saw her dead in changes it's not a Spoiler. unless you thought she would fail the task she can try and infant number of times

[@bxrby4961]

Boy if you hit the dog once more

[@abdmar5425]

Not hitting, he's petting

[@grottoo6874]

Holy hell, story spoilers… people just NEED the attention with these titles.

[@brianhollister219]

why tf would you put a spoiler right in the title

[@diethylmalonate]

to get clicks, which is more important than being a considerate person /s

[@saintlikegrimm]

Is it me or does his character art look unfinished?

[@mdashrafulahmed2820]

It's a placeholder

[@ladyofrillwater]

Its Early Access, he'll likely get more detailed art later

[@rumekfuria6037]

The game is in early access so Maybe?

[@haniahappy9053]

It’s early access so he has a placeholder design

[@BBBence1111]

What if, and rhis is just a suggestion: YOU DIDN'T DROP SPOILERS WITH EXACT FUCKING INSTRUCTIONS IN THE TITLE IN A STORY HEAVY GAME

[@diethylmalonate]

because clicks are more important to these people than not ruining the fun for others -_- Like I uploaded the same first clip plus music with the spoiler warning + blank thumbnail and got basically nothing

[@Ashy-TheAshen]

Realistic, stalling until the politics decide what to do something more.

[@hidecykun]

Dude fucking spoilers with the image and title

[@noelendozo7986]

Why is he drawn like that? This looks like drawings from deviantart and tumblr having a conversation.

[@smallboibreadmix6488]

game's early access so many art portraits will be updated as the versions go by

[@ArtisticCeleste]

Looks like a colored sketch! Since its early access its similar to how other characters like Charon have placeholder portraits since their's are incomplete, but since Hades is kinda a huge character, they might have decided that the rough sketch was worth having just for the sake of having his face to look at.

[@MaievShadowsong-tv2hi]

Early access, But I get why your a bit surprised since tho its early access it looks so polished. Since its eaely access some assets are still drawings

[@Mauricio0973]

Who is Tumblr and who is DeviantArt lmao

[@GrimmGungren]

His current design is being used as a placeholder,the game is still in early access, so the full game hasn't been released. We're waiting for the 1.0 launch once the full game releases all place holders will have the artwork updated and finalized.

[@smellypatel5272]

I still like zagreus way more than melinoe. He was badass and stronger than her

[@peezieforestem5078]

I hate that they did this to him. It's a classic writer move when in order to hype up the new badass, the old one is shown to be miserable. Same thing happened with Hulk and Thanos in MCU, for instance. I cannot stand this move. It gets me mad at the writers instead of getting sad for the character.

[@wonpiri___jinani3340]

what do you suggest they do? I mean Hades became like this because he was unprepared and his father literally ate him as a child lol

[@peezieforestem5078]

@@wonpiri___jinani3340 There are many things they could've done: 1) Make Hades attempt to break out repeatedly, as Zagreus once did. He is too weak to beat Chronus alone, but that doesn't stop him from trying. 2) Have Hades be imprisoned, but not have a broken will. He could be beaming with rage inside some sort of time barrier. 3) Remove Hades entirely. Have him be frozen in time or something, just like they did with Zageus.

[@megablueflash1816]

​@@peezieforestem5078 Well Chronos has his family in complete stasis. It's not like Hades doesn't want to try to save them. But if he tries breaking out like you say, what's to stop Chronos from just wiping his family from time or something? It's not the same situation as Zag, Chronos wants this man to suffer. That's why he didn't freeze him with the others.

[@peezieforestem5078]

@@megablueflash1816 A difficult problem doesn't justify a broken will. There are millions situations like this IRL. For instance, I have relatives who have MiA and PoW relatives who are likely being tortured. These people don't give up, if anything, they try their hardest to get the PoWs back, even when it looks like there's nothing they can do. Breaking Hades mentally was a deliberate choice on the writers part, it wasn't some inevitable consequence of the universe.

[@mayredwood]

His will is not actually broken though, there are several conversations (both between him and Mel and between Mel and others) pointing to the fact that he remains sane of mind

[@Herrscher-of-Autism]

I love that the music that plays in the room with Hades is a mix of the first games main theme (and therefore Hades' boss theme) and In The Blood

[@sevith5277]

The prison sprite is so sketch like almost unfinished showing how broken they are compared to Mel’s highly rendered sprite. 🥲

[@infmeister5855]

7:32 55 fear holy