Crazy Stain Removal on Marvel Key

This time I'm tackling a major stain on a big Marvel Key that goes all the way through the comic. Will I be able to get it all out?
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[@hobbyhero6973]

So who has a stain like this on their books?

[@RuHairDesigns]

I have a large stain like that on the cover of my Avengers 4 from water damage 😢

[@hobbyhero6973]

@@RuHairDesigns well hopefully this gives you some hope that it can most likely be improved

[@mynormunoz795]

I do, and have started using this method. It is definitely helping! But it seems I may have to hit it a few more times. I also didn't use the absorene, just got that in! But I haven't tried the pages, got a little fear there. I have a few test comics before I hit any of the keys I want to clean!

[@hobbyhero6973]

@@mynormunoz795 practice makes perfect. That is how you will really nail down the finer points

[@mynormunoz795]

@@hobbyhero6973 Appreciate your videos and work!

[@Joeh1154]

I'm late to the party here as you posted this a year ago, but I found this video to be quite instructional as I'm just starting my C&P journey. I've got my cotton rounds and absorene sponge and putty. Next up I've asked Santa Wife for a 15 X 15 heat press and my in-laws for the Immaculate comics metal plates. Hydrogen peroxide is easily gotten as are backing boards, 65lb paper, white eraser and magazine sized backing boards. I've got plenty of comics to experiment on before getting to my better books so, I'm looking forward to the new year and working on some books. I thank Hobby Hero and the other posters of C&P techniques for their videos and instructions. Best to all and happy holidays.

[@hobbyhero6973]

Thanks and happy holidays to you and yours!

[@pbales8951]

I much prefer these videos to your unboxing of modern CGC comics where you are disappointed with anything under a 9.8. I only collect silver and bronze age comics, so I'm thrilled with anything in the 9's (sometimes even with 8.5). And thank you for wearing pants in this video. ;)

[@hobbyhero6973]

Lol, thanks! CGC is a tricky thing. With modern books for the most part it’s 9.8 or bust and with older books until you hit those high grades a lot of times getting them slabbed is just for preservation so a lot of mine are just kept raw. Have some older books coming up tho!

[@KFfan78]

Amazing! Thanks for sharing your process.

[@hobbyhero6973]

Appreciate the kind words!

[@PopandsonPops]

This was awesome to see the process. Very cool my friend. Great book too!!

[@hobbyhero6973]

Thanks! I’m a big fan of the book too.

[@samfq3017]

Great job!!

[@hobbyhero6973]

Thanks! Was happy it came out. Always a risk when your not sure what the stain is.

[@oshreviews1022]

Amazing work.

[@hobbyhero6973]

Thank you 🙏

[@louislaplante6195]

First time seeing a cleaning I'm so impressed .

[@hobbyhero6973]

First time I saw the results on a cleaned book I was super impressed as well. Really opens up the possibilities

[@RonJibs]

Good results! I just busted out my absorbine putty to remove old tape residue from a book. I was successful using it after trying several other dry and wet techniques. Always good to have a full toolbox!

[@hobbyhero6973]

Yeah, I will get it back out every once in awhile

[@billypilgrim1089]

Great video, Thanks!

[@hobbyhero6973]

Thank you for checking it out!

[@adamspector274]

Thank you for the video. It was very interesting. I've never seen this method of stain removal before and I was very, very impressed. Once again, thank you. 😀

[@hobbyhero6973]

Thanks for checking it out! I’ve refined the process quite a bit and had to make some changes along the way but it’s a great process for getting out a number of stains

[@jerrythejitterbugcomicbook4098]

Bravo my friend!

[@hobbyhero6973]

Thanks! Always appreciate the kind words of a fellow comic doctor

[@topofthepops5582]

Awesome video my friend as always! 👌🏽👊🏽😎🔥

[@hobbyhero6973]

Thank you! Now to find the next project

[@rwheatley0206]

Great job. Book looks great.

[@hobbyhero6973]

Thanks! Did you get to see the results video yet?

[@rwheatley0206]

@@hobbyhero6973 No I haven't seen that one yet.

[@hobbyhero6973]

@@rwheatley0206 turned out better than expected

[@pdworld3421]

that's amazing

[@hobbyhero6973]

Thanks

[@mauricedevereaux6573]

Fantastic work...:)

[@hobbyhero6973]

Very much appreciated

[@ImproveCollectingComics]

Amazing work, thanks for sharing! I have a 7.5 ASM 316 with a stain on top of the comics code area of the front cover.. I plan to eventually try the overlay method, I think it could be a 9.0 without that stain

[@hobbyhero6973]

Yeah being able to remove the stains helps the grades but also the presentation

[@timothylee3105]

Excellent. Great Video. 👍 Thanks.

[@hobbyhero6973]

Thank you!

[@pet4g]

Awesome video, didn't know that was possible!

[@hobbyhero6973]

Thanks! These processes were definitely a game changer for me

[@jstruss1]

wow -insane result

[@hobbyhero6973]

Thanks! Did you get to see final grade video?

[@jstruss1]

@@hobbyhero6973 Not there yet - still watching the others -- what grade did you get?

[@hobbyhero6973]

@@jstruss1 8.5 universal

[@jstruss1]

@@hobbyhero6973 Amazing -- glad you dodged the purple! :)

[@hobbyhero6973]

@@jstruss1 yeah, this age book has been safe so far. Silver Age is what you need to look out for.

[@michaelcooper9725]

Great work...those stain removals can be a tedious process for sure. Way to stick with it!

[@hobbyhero6973]

Satisfying to see the results tho!

[@jstruss1]

great result! What surfactant do you use please? Also, what is your opinion on white tip erasers on older books like the deathlok you just cleaned? thanks for the videos - i am learning so much!

[@hobbyhero6973]

You are very welcome. The surfactant was immacuclean. As for erasers just e very cautious with putting any amount of pressure while erasing.

[@identityseriously2123]

Very entertaining. New fan and I have a silver surfer 1 that's cover has been separated and was wondering if you could do something about it and what would you charge for a clean and press plus I would be very interested in seeing a video of my book restoration!

[@hobbyhero6973]

It can be done for sure. Hit me up on messenger or IG!

[@phiendish]

Great videos! couple questions do you dilute the hydrogen peroxide? Also what type of LEDs do you use? Thank you

[@hobbyhero6973]

I just use the regular 3% hydrogen peroxide you will find at the grocery. For the bulb if you message me on Instagram I can send you link for it.

[@dkthief]

Nice work! For the interior pages, you just did the mist of Hydrogen peroxide and placed it in the BLED?

[@hobbyhero6973]

Feels wrong to day “just did” as it’s a 50 hour process but yeah that’s it 😆

[@JRButt-jr1bi]

I have a very nice copy of AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #607. However, it has a dark cover, and the stain is about 1 inch around where the top left staple is. Will this method remove any color? I'm afraid to even put a soaked sheet (is that parchment paper?) of hydrogen peroxide on a dark cover. What is your advice on this? Thank you

[@hobbyhero6973]

Reds and yellows are generally the only colors that lift if done correctly

[@quentinvuillot9356]

For whitenning, you press or press and hot with thé peroxyde ? Thank’s

[@hobbyhero6973]

H2O2 is used for all the processes that whiten but pressing is only used in some. You can also just use the Blue Light with the H2O2

[@the5kids300]

Am I correct that you are using the heat press with the soaked hydrogen peroxide, or are you cold pressing? I have a stain on the back cover of Secret Wars 8. Can I put the soaked Hydrogen peroxide on both the front and back cover at the same time?

[@hobbyhero6973]

I am using heat press for that step and you do not want to put it on both sides simultaneously. Treat one side at a time.

[@the5kids300]

@@hobbyhero6973 thanks!

[@GrandGeneralKukov]

Charles, I love your videos, but you've really got to sort out your tech, my man. There's something really messed with your camera (a decade-old webcam?) as well as audio. A little bit of searching on KZbin and you can get some great gear for fairly cheap that will really level up your presentation. (Edit tips: whatever edit software you're using should have a simple noise removal filter - put it on at 10% and it will make a huge difference for the white noise. Also please export your audio as stereo, equal channels, and not mono only using one channel [i.e. left] which is pretty obnoxious, etc.) That aside, keep up the great work!

[@hobbyhero6973]

Working on it and think my newer stuff is a bit better than what I started with.

[@JRButt-jr1bi]

Just curious. You pressed this book many times. How long are you leaving this book in the press each time, and how long a wait time in between each press? Thank you.👌🙂

[@hobbyhero6973]

It varies quite a bit between steps actually. Would also vary depending on the book and it’s condition

[@ers5072]

Just curious. With the repeated use of hydrogen peroxide, did the covers become hard or brittle? Rick over at Immaculate says that can happen.

[@hobbyhero6973]

They will get crispy after heat drying but rehumidifying the pages before repressing will make them simple again

[@kwhuisman]

What is that yellow sponge made of? Is that natural sponge?

[@hobbyhero6973]

It is not. It’s an absorene sponge. The link is in the description. Not sure what all it is made of though.

[@kwhuisman]

@@hobbyhero6973 Thanks

[@consumetheliving]

How do you combat page curling when misting? Specifically for the interrior pages.

[@hobbyhero6973]

I cold press when the book is resting which helps. If I wasn’t removing stain I would also alternate using mist on every other page which reduces it as well.

[@consumetheliving]

@@hobbyhero6973 thank you, sometimes I notice books are so dry that even a light mist on interior pages causes an instant curl. I've also noticed that the periodic misting rolls the pages so I end up laying down comics bags after a mist to keep the pages flat.

[@hobbyhero6973]

@@consumetheliving that’s been enough so far to keep mine flat enough. Using a clear piece of plastic to hold in place could also be useful if it is curling too much.

[@consumetheliving]

@@hobbyhero6973 Cool cool, cant wait to see the grade on this one!! keep up with the great content.

[@hobbyhero6973]

@@consumetheliving thanks again. Trying to get a full pre 1974 order together for CGC here soon

[@copetcapulin]

do you have the link to purchase the mix you put on the comic, thank you?

[@hobbyhero6973]

Just the 3% hydrogen peroxide you find at the store

[@copetcapulin]

Essential Oxygen Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide, Natural Cleaner, 3% I found this in Amazon this is the product? let me know thank you. Your channel has amazing information.

[@hobbyhero6973]

@@copetcapulin sounds like it. You can send me the link on IG if you want to confirm

[@copetcapulin]

@@hobbyhero6973 I send the link on IG, let me know and if isn't please send me the right link, thank you.

[@tonyzane4945]

How long do you keep it in the press ??????

[@hobbyhero6973]

That varies greatly depending on the step.

[@RuHairDesigns]

Do you soak the copy paper with regular hydrogen peroxide? Or is there any percentage/dilution of it for that process?

[@hobbyhero6973]

I use the 3% right out of the bottle

[@RuHairDesigns]

@@hobbyhero6973 thank you! Even when you spray for the light box? Just straight hydrogen peroxide only?

[@hobbyhero6973]

@@RuHairDesigns correct, anytime I’m using h2o2 it’s the 3%

[@chuckg4905]

Are u using srp paper soaked in hydrogen peroxide? What mix do u use with the hydrogen peroxide or is it pure hydrogen peroxide? I've got a NM 98 with a bad stain on the back cover I'd like to fix if possible.

[@hobbyhero6973]

No that is regular printing paper that is soaked in 3% hydrogen peroxide.

[@chuckg4905]

@@hobbyhero6973 thanks for the info!

[@hobbyhero6973]

@@chuckg4905 no problem man!

[@chuckg4905]

@@hobbyhero6973 I'm gonna try your technique on my NN 98 next week. I don't have any blue lights but hopefully the stain will respond to the HP treatment. I'll let u know my results.

[@hobbyhero6973]

@@chuckg4905 hydrogen peroxide by itself won’t do much. Really needs heat to do anything. Also I would practice on a less valuable book than that!

[@samuel3112]

How long and what temp each step of peroxide ?

[@hobbyhero6973]

There is honestly quite a bit of variance. If it’s something you’re looking to do on your own I’d recommend using the book in the description. It also has a lot of troubleshooting guides as well

[@samuel3112]

Thank you. I actually just received the book. Lots of help.

[@hobbyhero6973]

@@samuel3112 awesome, let me know if you have any questions!

[@RexxCollects]

Do people send you books to clean and press or is this just for your PC? Awesome job!!!

[@hobbyhero6973]

These are just my PC. I’ve only ever worked on my own books really.

[@RexxCollects]

@@hobbyhero6973 nice. There is a market for this.lol. I was thinking of opening a shop and highering someone just for this. Not a job offer from a stranger, just what I wanted to do.lol

[@hobbyhero6973]

@@RexxCollects lol, yeah there is but it’s tricky to monetize. All stains are different so time and risk varies from book to book.

[@RexxCollects]

@@hobbyhero6973 very true!!!

[@Gexx70]

Ok but how many minutes in the press? How much temperature? In all the videos I never see the durations and degrees described... Thanks

[@hobbyhero6973]

I don’t put a lot of the specifics as they vary from book to book and types of stain. Don’t want people using my exact time/temps and then having it damage their books. I have the book I started with with in my description if you want an in depth guide or if you ever have specific questions feel free to message me directly.

[@Gexx70]

@@hobbyhero6973 Okay.. For me it would be a step forward even if you tell me your times (even approximate) in this specific case.. :)

[@hobbyhero6973]

@@Gexx70 for which step?

[@Gexx70]

@@hobbyhero6973 when you press them with the peroxide sheets and when you press them in the last pass..

[@Gexx70]

@@hobbyhero6973 or at least how long in the press with the peroxide sheet applied...

[@shepherdsknoll]

Have you ever removed stable stains from the paper ?

[@hobbyhero6973]

You mean rust? If so then no. Its pretty much permanent. Can sometimes be improved slightly

[@shepherdsknoll]

@@hobbyhero6973 , thanks for the quick reply, I really like your work and videos. Have you removed the staples to soak them and get rid of the rust ? What do think works best on the rust stain, eraser- peroxide ?

[@hobbyhero6973]

@@shepherdsknoll I don’t. I will usually replace them if they are that bad. As for the stains light treatment can help lighten them a bit

[@OverTheLineFilms]

how long do you press each time at what temp?

[@hobbyhero6973]

It varies from book to book and from step to step. Honestly varies a bit too based on the press you have. There are some general times and temps I stick around but you really kind of have to learn your own press. I've seen people check the temps of their presses regularly too so that is also an option as you get a feel for it.

[@c.a.l.e.b.s]

@@hobbyhero6973 I've heard your comments when it comes to regular heat pressing, your layout and why the time can vary depending on press, however with the HOP press you do with the H202 would it be essentially the same timing as your standard hot press after humidification in the box? Or because you are essentially doing it for the H202 activation is it a shorter period of time for that process with not actually going for the "press" result, moreso the stain removal/page lightening. Thanks so much!!!!

[@hobbyhero6973]

@@c.a.l.e.b.s it is not a standard press or cooling period. If you have a specific question you’re working on hit me up on IG and I may be able to give you a better answer

[@c.a.l.e.b.s]

@@hobbyhero6973 okay I'll search for you on Instagram as well. Maybe the more specific answer is listening to you in this video go through multiple passes of pressing with the peroxide what was the rough amount of time you were doing each of those peroxide presses to try to get the stain to progress out of the book. Thanks again

[@joshuaclark1930]

Love your videos. Why does your video aspect ratio look wrong in the intros? Looks wide.

[@hobbyhero6973]

Video recording software I used at that time stretched it for some reason. Should be better on newer videos

[@antoniocar596]

What temperature and how long was the book pressed for each time?

[@hobbyhero6973]

It varies greatly depending on which step and what process I'm using