Crazy stuck in SAND!!!

From being stuck in the mud..to stuck in the sand!

[@pkav8tor]

I have recovered lots of heavy loads from sand. I reside in a desert area and worked large recovery for a living. Never ever have the stuck unit(semi tractor) apply power. It always causes the unit to sink lower into the sand and then increases drag due to frame/ running gear dragging. This goes for mud also, just in a lessor degree. When pulling the chipper from the rear, you would have increased the chance of getting out by short lining the winch cables(getting closer, increasing the angle, thus taking weight off of the chipper) resulting in taking weight off the tires of the chipper and loading it onto the large tires of the Cats that have massive flotation. Recovery from sand is a science, not just brute force .............regards/thanks for sharing your troubles.

[@bebajoro77]

Couldn't agree more, at least the skidder drivers knew what they were doing even if the semi tractor insisted on digging his wheels in and bellying out . . .

[@jeffkonig4968]

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[@RU-zm7wj]

Yeah, fully loaded lowboys just magically float over the mud (never sink) and put no strain on the cables just by leaving it in neutral and being a dead weight. My experience is in mud, and lots of it, and experience tells me different-I've tried every way.

[@pkav8tor]

@@RU-zm7wj What part of this video shows a 'lowboy'? You missed the point Mr "experience".

[@chuckwiegand4278]

Gonna be able to add a pusher and tag axle on the shaker after that job good thing just movin around the corner sand maybe a lil better for drainage have a good week John

[@Dirtbug473]

14:00 branch finish....years ago in my small excavation business, my foreman used the 4-1 loader bucket on our JD 410 backhoe to grab a juniper tree we had taken down and "swept" the lot after we backfilled a foundation. They were 1/2 acre lots...I was impressed...he called it a "juniper Tree Finish". I like it!!!

[@bladerunner6354]

Up here I sweep'em with a gray birch and an excavator. Works PISSAH'

[@teamidris]

Skid plate! Yep, these vids have a lot of advice and mine is a skid plate in front of the first trailer axel. Just enough that it has to ride up just before the tyres start cutting dirt. I’m thinking 10 to 12” off the ground at the lowest , full width and five foot length with sya a 20 degree slope.

[@stevegauthier6694]

I hate them ball buster jobs where even the skidders struggle. Nice to get on solid ground again.

[@johncolasanto605]

Its like watching the tractor pull.. im just waiting to hear you yell FULL PULL!!!

[@mannyrivera4148]

It would of been a hole lot smoother if the dummy kept his wheels straights

[@bladerunner6354]

Ya plus one skidder ahead of the other PULLING is more in unison. Never PUSH on any vehicle. See him pushin' at the turn around with truck turned 90 degrees, lol

[@bobmorris9687]

They don't have a clue to what they are doing...

[@ronaaserude8225]

@@bladerunner6354 the world would run so smoothly with you in charge huh?

[@ronaaserude8225]

@@bobmorris9687 you're right, they're all rookies and never been in a tough situation before, you need to get down there and show them how to do it or they'll never accomplish a thing

[@spencergreenhill7728]

Everybody knows more than the guys doing the job.

[@SledgeHammer43]

We use to dump pea gravel into soft mud like that at a C&D waste site after Hurricane Katrina. It was the only way to firm it up. We used pea gravel from roof removal jobs.

[@bladerunner6354]

How nice of you to recycle hurricanes fury.

[@AveryExcavating]

Amazing on how much the tractor/semi will take. When is it ever worth getting a lead load of 1x3 crushed rock or stone to put down? I understand you might be a good hour or so away from a gravel pit but is it ever worth building a landing with stone or gravel? I see Lutke will do that on occasion on some large hills to get back to the landing. Thanks!

[@stuckboy22110]

Kyle Riegle I have wondered the same.

[@forestercroatia]

Great video, nice machines!

[@superstarmcgee1128]

That's some Tod Hoffman sheet there!

[@marteinsks6979]

man those machines have to be tough !!!

[@dasdabs7548]

in mud like this you should had matts ...are laid some timber down

[@StumpjumperVideosPA]

god were gluttons for punishment aint we johnboy ?

[@tomfields2700]

That poor truck. It must be a good one. Log on.......That should get a lot of views

[@jonathonmason6394]

Glad y'all have those machines. 🤔

[@IsaakAlan700]

Ну, вот нормальные дороги прям как в Сибири. А то привыкли к своим бетонкам. Ыш какие!

[@jimmycline4778]

I would be using a 6x6 truck for jobs like this!

[@ClarissaPacker]

Oh look the pop bottles still where it was left.

[@ПётрОщепков-с3щ]

Ура! В Канаде тоже есть бездорожье!

[@dimauvarov1606]

Если б не редкий тягач фред, вообще подумал бы что либо урал или сибирь.

[@davidgokey7850]

Wow, thats muddy bud...

[@arborist460]

Yall need a darn d8 with a monster winch...or old d9g like al quiring....it'd end up with half the front end of a western star trammin before you knew it...lol

[@pacatus1237]

I can't Believe how you do things sometime in Amercia. In Europe we will for sure use a dozer or a tracked front loader to do a empty place before bringing the truck. You use is too tough !

[@teak723]

why in the heck was the guy in the truck turning the wheels?? make it harder to move while "plowing" the ground with his fronts.. towed vehicles DO NOT STEER!..DA

[@санекгладков-е4м]

бедный тягач

[@tmanb2010]

We use mats you should try some?

[@sisutrucks]

dont need much crushed rock to make a road base.

[@ronetastic1213]

you need chains on the skidder

[@Abdulaziz-by4hx]

The stupid truck driver should have kept the wheels straight

[@larrywhite2320]

Padlock

[@edsonkidwell9813]

Why no chains on the skidders

[@bladerunner6354]

Soils don't warrant chains, but don't tell'em!!

[@9carcottrell246]

Good way to tear ur equipment up

[@murraytownsing5662]

On cooks why is firts axel doing nothing

[@bladerunner6354]

Just a lifter axel, but they did set it down to add to the drag!!

[@letsdig18]

I wonder If Freightliner did this in their truck endurance test at the factory? LOL

[@bladerunner6354]

Ya, but at the factory they redline it during the test.

[@dozingnsloping6814]

Thats a hell of a winch. If that would of been me it would have broke. I can't count the number of times I've had them break on the dozer.

[@murchlk]

No wonder stuff breaks all the time 😂 logging ain’t easy on equipment

[@2fast65]

That poor freightliner looked like it was 10 foot longer after it was unhooked.

[@royceanderson3389]

Pads Pads Pads, I like Pads and People who know how to set up a Site. Can't wait to see the access Road to the Chipper.

[@stuckboy22110]

Now pray for no rain!! Just a curious thought here, would a tandem axle dolly work better than a tractor?Less wear and tear on the road trucks and less weight the skidder has to drag around. Just keep rollin John!

[@kevinlewis7882]

Man that was stressful just watching,can imagine how it was in person, good luck, be safe

[@barryhansen6854]

I didn't know you could use a chipper as a grader, didn't think you were going to get it out of the last job area but you did then put it into the sand, thought you were gone but you know what you're doing hats off to you great job.

[@Schweineschneider20-23]

I apologize for my English, the driver at the beginning of the video puts the wheels across for entertainment or did he spit on everyone?

[@onisama6261]

Только идиот в такое место на шоссейном тягаче поедет да еще с таким прицепом.

[@vanstractors]

Time for WW2 surplus mats or crane mats

[@antonfloor344]

this s truck need a to be mod to 8x8 for this job and trailer needs lift pump or something

[@bladerunner6354]

8x8 nah, wouldn't help, be stuck just as tight.

[@MS940]

That CAT winch is amazing. The truck moves like some small RC toy.

[@toddnichols2990]

Those 2 skidded have some serious pulling power!!!

[@brentmaxwell4014]

I have seen and hauled alot of wood out of big cuts and never broke up roads like this . Worth while putting in a proper road and cause less wear and tear on machines

[@ohhpaul7364]

Shame there isn't some way you could attach a couple sets of tires from the skidders to the chipper. Not enough ground clearance, to much weight on those "little" tires lets them sink right on in. Winter is coming. Will the freeze out help you any with all this muck?

[@2709gary]

Stop flailing the camera around ... ... ...

[@truckdriver7721]

The fun joys of logging. Going from 1 extreme to another. 😊😊

[@bladerunner6354]

All in the same day, lol

[@waynecompton7612]

Good video John, perhaps I am telling you to suck eggs but why don’t you build a raft of logs and perhaps fabricate skid plates for the underside of your trucks and trailers, I know it may reduce ground height!! But at least the equipment will float rather than sink , because it’s all to easy pulling air pipes off etc

[@cantbyou3086]

Wow you guys could make your own matting to sit those on so you don't sink into the mud while working there but nope, let's just make it harder on the equipment and yourselves. hell park on top of pad made of bark and a couple of logs.

[@cmusic52]

I swear, from watchin you guys get stuck... it looks like the reason you guys get the stuff out yourself is cause yall could have a pair of 75 Ton rotators and it still wouldn't have a prayer of gettin this stuff out when its this stuck this far back here w/o just burying themselves just as deep, when u got weights like this in soil conditions like this... its just your own brains n creativity and skills to get em out

[@MitzvosGolem1]

this is everyday in Russia.. Lucky NoT frozen in.Best not to pivot turn on soft sand twist trailer axel's off if in deeper.G et a Oshkosh military tractor 6×6 with 40 ton winch used for Abrams Tank recovery for these type of jobs. They go cheap and are indestructible Thanks Nice rigs good job Not here to criticize.

[@Kevin-is-here]

Why don’t they just have a way to hook it straight to a skidder instead of yanking on the truck?

[@timhoneycutt2583]

North Carolina has been getting lot's of rain to an we work outside to!

[@lewiemcneely9143]

It has been known to happen and yes, we have! I liked watching the timber freeze up while hauling boulders.

[@marianosachez7543]

Me parece una gran estupidez con esas dos maquinas, ( y si tienen esas pueden tener otras ), forzandolas de manera tan brutal al igual que la gandola, yo he tenldo transporte y maquinaria pesada toda mi vida y no lo haría. REPARARIA LA VÍA Y QUEDARÍA PARA FUTURAS OCACIONES, NO SEAN BRUTOS.

[@johnnyrocket8523]

Chipper or scraper ! With that much pulling/pushing power you’d be better off leaving the tractor in neutral his spinning is taking your ground clearance lowering the front of the trailer into the ground

[@lucswink]

Hey. Here's an idea: get yourself a twin-axle Dolly, and something on one of those CAT's, Deere's or whatever. Bet you anything that will be more cost-effective than 3 CAT's, a dozer, ánd by now a ruïned Truck. But hey, what do i know...

[@lewiemcneely9143]

Well, there's no DUST! Prayers, BLESSINGS and Goomer HUgs!

[@rajbeekie7124]

There has got to be a better way to get machinery through poor conditions. The way used looked like a ton of stress on the truck and chipper.

[@LoggerWade]

Boys that looked like a big heaping pile of fun

[@bigwheelsturning]

Wondered when the skidder was going to use the winch instead of pulling.

[@lfeco]

When they turned to come back thru the sand what the heck did they think would happen?Pack first.

[@daveg2609]

From 6:00 on, it's really amazing how much stronger a winch is, pulling against the parking brake, rather than leaving the tow vehicle in "drive"

[@tommymann69]

Someone call Bobby goodson of all terrain logging

[@BenBieb]

..even he has better road preparation for his onroad trucks than these "heroes" here..

[@Carnage6.0L]

This guy has no idea what hes doing. Amateur at it's best. You can tell how hes talking.

[@Carnage6.0L]

Makes you wonder why loggers use sand

[@bladerunner6354]

@@Carnage6.0L How much sand pounded into the mud they plowed up into the processor. If they prepare sight before move in day it would help!!

[@vicferrari9380]

If I'm not mistaken the man says he's over it. It doesn't sound like he's over it. Nice team work getting that out of there. It will take you three days to clean it enough to put it on the road again. Been there done that.👎🤬🐗

[@eliteearthworksllc]

That is just crazy John! That has to be hard on the equipment dragging it through that stuff! Good luck buddy! What a pain just so you can work!

[@ericharris893]

Elite Earthworks LLC add regulations and tree rot and disease plus the bugs to the most recent frustrations. If loggin payed good enough you could afford to throw 40 loads of “#3 crushed cobble in the mud holes

[@corinorwood1054]

Would it be more efficient and cost effective to utilize gravel in building up areas like that in regards to cutting down the time it takes to prep and maintain areas or pads like the job you guys left and the new landing with all of the sand? Seems like it might be or would be but I live in Georgia so I’m very positive it’s not the same in regards to quarry location and etc..... great videos though my friend!!

[@FARMALLL666]

GRAVEL COSTS MONEY

[@bladerunner6354]

@@FARMALLL666 Time wear and tear lost production site maintainence mud out on highway sunk trucks skidders interrupted FREE!!! Lol

[@chrisrobl9341]

I didn't know if you were going to get the chipper out or not. I guess two cats have a lot of pull. Thanks for the video Mr John.

[@mudshark351]

Well that was embarrassing... Maybe he should try building the road first instead of dragging a half million worth of iron through the mud and then fixing the road

[@raduberaru9369]

Oh!you are right! So when the timber is done and they move away with the equipment you will see roads everywhere you look! Impressive thinking :)))

[@arkansas1336]

That is what turns a Freightliner into a 'Freightshaker'! Tough conditions, good luck! ....13

[@bladerunner6354]

and then into a crateliner.

[@timbertom4324]

Holy crap now I know what that looks like when we have those kind of actions.

[@ConstructionMachinesChannel]

Thought the chipper had become a CAT scraper at one stage. Great work getting it sorted 👍

[@greyjay9202]

The semi driver didn't help the situation by setting his steer tires to a hard right. They acted like a brake, digging into the mud.

[@nuts319]

crazy ground conditions.. eww eww eww haha good one

[@philaudiostrike8746]

might as well just have the chipper on a skid at that point

[@takeastandorbeenslavedby-left]

This is a good section of my land, near useless for anything other than off-road riding

[@jean-mariedequene8931]

il faut vraiment êtres cons et stupides a la fois pour faire passer un camion de route par les bourbiers c est du n importe quoi et le n narrateur exaspère les oreilles

[@professor_thunder]

As a non logger may I suggest spending some quality time building up your pad and road.

[@donmoore7785]

That truck would have moved easier if the driver kept the wheels pointed where he wanted to go.

[@tmack2090]

all the time and money wasted ! instead of wasting time and money pushing and pulling and wear and tear on your machinery and trucks ! just take the time to build a good road and landing ! all the time and money you waste could be put into a good haul road and landing ! that means moving more wood ! keep the skidders pulling wood instead of pulling trucks ! and the trucks moving wood without help ! in short more production !

[@chadder19k]

Hey question for you?? What happens when you level up the chipper and the out riggers are fully down, you come in the next morning and she sunk up to the belly of the beast?? What do you do then to get it leveled back up??

[@bladerunner6354]

Judt keep rollin' lol

[@fei-forestry6169]

That was a hard Pull, but I guess I'd rather have sand than deep mud to mess with

[@MultiCrusher2]

Quit spinning the tractor wheels.just digging youre self deeper

[@timforbrook9169]

think that all on your own ?

[@raydeal5777]

Oh there we go now the fun begins, I miss those days backing up for a mile or so it got old but it's part of it nowhere to turn around in those hills and mountains. Good job

[@scrasebridge]

This video shows the power of those skidders better than anything else I have seen.

[@bladerunner6354]

You ain't seen Jack

[@trentwatts8670]

Do you ever get used to pulling on your equipment like that I know you hate it

[@steelfabmechanic6545]

I don't get why you don't have tire chains on those skidders John, here in New England everyone runs chains, they seem so useless without them.

[@bladerunner6354]

Looks to me like chains in that soil would just be an agitator stirring more mud. Ring chains here in New England have better soil content to bite, called Rock!!

[@maeltztpi8529]

Lory good

[@lesterxxx7642]

the boss sets at a deck and wants the loads out. he does not know the trouble we have doing it

[@fei-forestry6169]

That was a hard Pull, but I guess I'd rather have sand than deep mud to mess with

[@philipmarsland6265]

Need some of the mats public service use to go into the power lines

[@raydeal5777]

Did that off and on for 30 years and the high mountains of Washington State steep cliffs and switchbacks I need a cat.

[@basspromike]

I don't see how those axels stay attached to the frame

[@BNSFTIM55]

that looks fun better than jeeps and lifted trucks

[@shawnmoss8247]

Haven't seen you teem up like that in a while. That got me to laugh pretty good at the end " now we smooth it out with a feather " here comes the skidder with a bundle of bushy logs

[@parkerfroid]

Bloody good winch on that cat.

[@jeffmosher433]

jeeze.... had to stop watching. I was getting dizzy!

[@timforbrook9169]

good thing you don't have to run the equipment

[@davestinson5691]

Man i hope y'all get paid well. Seems like a headache of a job. But gotta get it done though