Crazy stuck in SAND!!!

[@barryhansen6854]

I didn't know you could use a chipper as a grader, didn't think you were going to get it out of the last job area but you did then put it into the sand, thought you were gone but you know what you're doing hats off to you great job.

[@pkav8tor]

I have recovered lots of heavy loads from sand. I reside in a desert area and worked large recovery for a living. Never ever have the stuck unit(semi tractor) apply power. It always causes the unit to sink lower into the sand and then increases drag due to frame/ running gear dragging. This goes for mud also, just in a lessor degree. When pulling the chipper from the rear, you would have increased the chance of getting out by short lining the winch cables(getting closer, increasing the angle, thus taking weight off of the chipper) resulting in taking weight off the tires of the chipper and loading it onto the large tires of the Cats that have massive flotation. Recovery from sand is a science, not just brute force .............regards/thanks for sharing your troubles.

[@bebajoro77]

Couldn't agree more, at least the skidder drivers knew what they were doing even if the semi tractor insisted on digging his wheels in and bellying out . . .

[@jeffkonig4968]

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[@RU-zm7wj]

Yeah, fully loaded lowboys just magically float over the mud (never sink) and put no strain on the cables just by leaving it in neutral and being a dead weight. My experience is in mud, and lots of it, and experience tells me different-I've tried every way.

[@pkav8tor]

@@RU-zm7wj What part of this video shows a 'lowboy'? You missed the point Mr "experience".

[@leepolitejr8598]

My uncle and cousin been logging for over 40 years and they put water and antifreeze in there Skidder tires and rap chains around them, it helps out a lot Sir, we are out of Arkansas and Texas,

[@daveg2609]

From 6:00 on, it's really amazing how much stronger a winch is, pulling against the parking brake, rather than leaving the tow vehicle in "drive"

[@MS940]

That CAT winch is amazing. The truck moves like some small RC toy.

[@Dirtbug473]

14:00 branch finish....years ago in my small excavation business, my foreman used the 4-1 loader bucket on our JD 410 backhoe to grab a juniper tree we had taken down and "swept" the lot after we backfilled a foundation. They were 1/2 acre lots...I was impressed...he called it a "juniper Tree Finish". I like it!!!

[@bladerunner6354]

Up here I sweep'em with a gray birch and an excavator. Works PISSAH'

[@raydeal5777]

Oh there we go now the fun begins, I miss those days backing up for a mile or so it got old but it's part of it nowhere to turn around in those hills and mountains. Good job

[@chuckwiegand4278]

Gonna be able to add a pusher and tag axle on the shaker after that job good thing just movin around the corner sand maybe a lil better for drainage have a good week John

[@scrasebridge]

This video shows the power of those skidders better than anything else I have seen.

[@bladerunner6354]

You ain't seen Jack

[@dozingnsloping6814]

Thats a hell of a winch. If that would of been me it would have broke. I can't count the number of times I've had them break on the dozer.

[@lewiemcneely9143]

Well, there's no DUST! Prayers, BLESSINGS and Goomer HUgs!

[@toddnichols2990]

Those 2 skidded have some serious pulling power!!!

[@chrisrobl9341]

I didn't know if you were going to get the chipper out or not. I guess two cats have a lot of pull. Thanks for the video Mr John.

[@kevinlewis7882]

Man that was stressful just watching,can imagine how it was in person, good luck, be safe

[@stuckboy22110]

Now pray for no rain!! Just a curious thought here, would a tandem axle dolly work better than a tractor?Less wear and tear on the road trucks and less weight the skidder has to drag around. Just keep rollin John!

[@letsdig18]

I wonder If Freightliner did this in their truck endurance test at the factory? LOL

[@bladerunner6354]

Ya, but at the factory they redline it during the test.

[@eliteearthworksllc]

That is just crazy John! That has to be hard on the equipment dragging it through that stuff! Good luck buddy! What a pain just so you can work!

[@ericharris893]

Elite Earthworks LLC add regulations and tree rot and disease plus the bugs to the most recent frustrations. If loggin payed good enough you could afford to throw 40 loads of “#3 crushed cobble in the mud holes

[@teamidris]

Skid plate! Yep, these vids have a lot of advice and mine is a skid plate in front of the first trailer axel. Just enough that it has to ride up just before the tyres start cutting dirt. I’m thinking 10 to 12” off the ground at the lowest , full width and five foot length with sya a 20 degree slope.

[@forestercroatia]

Great video, nice machines!

[@parkerfroid]

Bloody good winch on that cat.

[@corinorwood1054]

Would it be more efficient and cost effective to utilize gravel in building up areas like that in regards to cutting down the time it takes to prep and maintain areas or pads like the job you guys left and the new landing with all of the sand? Seems like it might be or would be but I live in Georgia so I’m very positive it’s not the same in regards to quarry location and etc..... great videos though my friend!!

[@FARMALLL666]

GRAVEL COSTS MONEY

[@bladerunner6354]

@@FARMALLL666 Time wear and tear lost production site maintainence mud out on highway sunk trucks skidders interrupted FREE!!! Lol

[@mosesramdeen2352]

Best truck in the world

[@truckdriver7721]

The fun joys of logging. Going from 1 extreme to another. 😊😊

[@bladerunner6354]

All in the same day, lol

[@shawnmoss8247]

Haven't seen you teem up like that in a while. That got me to laugh pretty good at the end " now we smooth it out with a feather " here comes the skidder with a bundle of bushy logs

[@brentmaxwell4014]

I have seen and hauled alot of wood out of big cuts and never broke up roads like this . Worth while putting in a proper road and cause less wear and tear on machines

[@josephboley]

wow that's awesome. you won that battle.

[@mannyrivera4148]

It would of been a hole lot smoother if the dummy kept his wheels straights

[@bladerunner6354]

Ya plus one skidder ahead of the other PULLING is more in unison. Never PUSH on any vehicle. See him pushin' at the turn around with truck turned 90 degrees, lol

[@bobmorris9687]

They don't have a clue to what they are doing...

[@ronaaserude8225]

@@bladerunner6354 the world would run so smoothly with you in charge huh?

[@ronaaserude8225]

@@bobmorris9687 you're right, they're all rookies and never been in a tough situation before, you need to get down there and show them how to do it or they'll never accomplish a thing

[@jerrystott7780]

That trucker was probably chanting, "Bumper don't fail, bumper don't fail" the whole time. Lol

[@ohhpaul7364]

Shame there isn't some way you could attach a couple sets of tires from the skidders to the chipper. Not enough ground clearance, to much weight on those "little" tires lets them sink right on in. Winter is coming. Will the freeze out help you any with all this muck?

[@stevegauthier6694]

I hate them ball buster jobs where even the skidders struggle. Nice to get on solid ground again.

[@johncolasanto605]

Its like watching the tractor pull.. im just waiting to hear you yell FULL PULL!!!

[@2fast65]

That poor freightliner looked like it was 10 foot longer after it was unhooked.

[@royceanderson3389]

Pads Pads Pads, I like Pads and People who know how to set up a Site. Can't wait to see the access Road to the Chipper.

[@AveryExcavating]

Amazing on how much the tractor/semi will take. When is it ever worth getting a lead load of 1x3 crushed rock or stone to put down? I understand you might be a good hour or so away from a gravel pit but is it ever worth building a landing with stone or gravel? I see Lutke will do that on occasion on some large hills to get back to the landing. Thanks!

[@stuckboy22110]

Kyle Riegle I have wondered the same.

[@bambooforest7665]

Those are some cool cat machines

[@pokoknya]

I love it when he used the trees as an old broom..

[@arkansas1336]

That is what turns a Freightliner into a 'Freightshaker'! Tough conditions, good luck! ....13

[@bladerunner6354]

and then into a crateliner.

[@timhoneycutt2583]

North Carolina has been getting lot's of rain to an we work outside to!

[@lewiemcneely9143]

It has been known to happen and yes, we have! I liked watching the timber freeze up while hauling boulders.

[@SledgeHammer43]

We use to dump pea gravel into soft mud like that at a C&D waste site after Hurricane Katrina. It was the only way to firm it up. We used pea gravel from roof removal jobs.

[@bladerunner6354]

How nice of you to recycle hurricanes fury.

[@murchlk]

No wonder stuff breaks all the time 😂 logging ain’t easy on equipment

[@superstarmcgee1128]

That's some Tod Hoffman sheet there!

[@nuts319]

crazy ground conditions.. eww eww eww haha good one

[@chadwilloughby4714]

Stupid question do they allow triple drive axle trucks in Michigan?

[@ConstructionMachinesChannel]

Thought the chipper had become a CAT scraper at one stage. Great work getting it sorted 👍

[@marteinsks6979]

man those machines have to be tough !!!

[@Schweineschneider20-23]

I apologize for my English, the driver at the beginning of the video puts the wheels across for entertainment or did he spit on everyone?

[@steelfabmechanic6545]

I don't get why you don't have tire chains on those skidders John, here in New England everyone runs chains, they seem so useless without them.

[@bladerunner6354]

Looks to me like chains in that soil would just be an agitator stirring more mud. Ring chains here in New England have better soil content to bite, called Rock!!

[@codybrown3946]

How come you guys don’t run tire chains on the skidders?

[@MyOLD36chevy]

I liked the big broom at the end.

[@jamesthorn810]

Days like that every day seems like a Monday. Keep rolling

[@docholliday6338]

Would it be a worth while investment to get truck mats?

[@LoggerWade]

Boys that looked like a big heaping pile of fun

[@BNSFTIM55]

that looks fun better than jeeps and lifted trucks

[@waltermattson5566]

I thought the chipper was going to tip over. How heavy is it?

[@fei-forestry6169]

That was a hard Pull, but I guess I'd rather have sand than deep mud to mess with

[@chadder19k]

Hey question for you?? What happens when you level up the chipper and the out riggers are fully down, you come in the next morning and she sunk up to the belly of the beast?? What do you do then to get it leveled back up??

[@bladerunner6354]

Judt keep rollin' lol

[@williamduchene1322]

Any reason you don't use a snatch block and double your skidders pulling power..?

[@williamduchene1322]

Yeah.... and some mud mats wouldn't hurt... LOL About the only thing you haven't hit is blue clay...

[@bladerunner6354]

Lol, how much tuggin will those truck frames take under those loads do ya figure??

[@jojiwaqa2961]

How much work if they use some wood mats for traction.

[@timbertom4324]

Holy crap now I know what that looks like when we have those kind of actions.

[@waynecompton7612]

Good video John, perhaps I am telling you to suck eggs but why don’t you build a raft of logs and perhaps fabricate skid plates for the underside of your trucks and trailers, I know it may reduce ground height!! But at least the equipment will float rather than sink , because it’s all to easy pulling air pipes off etc

[@philipmarsland6265]

Need some of the mats public service use to go into the power lines

[@bigwheelsturning]

Wondered when the skidder was going to use the winch instead of pulling.

[@vanstractors]

Time for WW2 surplus mats or crane mats

[@antonfloor344]

this s truck need a to be mod to 8x8 for this job and trailer needs lift pump or something

[@bladerunner6354]

8x8 nah, wouldn't help, be stuck just as tight.

[@stephenhunter70]

All the weight seems to be on the diff centers not the tires.

[@spencergreenhill7728]

Where is this?

[@cmusic52]

I swear, from watchin you guys get stuck... it looks like the reason you guys get the stuff out yourself is cause yall could have a pair of 75 Ton rotators and it still wouldn't have a prayer of gettin this stuff out when its this stuck this far back here w/o just burying themselves just as deep, when u got weights like this in soil conditions like this... its just your own brains n creativity and skills to get em out

[@jonathonmason6394]

Glad y'all have those machines. 🤔

[@spencergreenhill7728]

Everybody knows more than the guys doing the job.

[@sighpocket5]

Nice!!!!

[@stephenprettyman2896]

Man you guys sure know what you're doing.

[@dasdabs7548]

in mud like this you should had matts ...are laid some timber down

[@takeastandorbeenslavedby-left]

This is a good section of my land, near useless for anything other than off-road riding

[@johnwarren8621]

how much dose one of those skidder weigh ?

[@theshedmanchannel2373]

mats works wonders

[@VideosByAl]

Nice save.

[@Nudnik1]

this is everyday in Russia.. Lucky NoT frozen in.Best not to pivot turn on soft sand twist trailer axel's off if in deeper.G et a Oshkosh military tractor 6×6 with 40 ton winch used for Abrams Tank recovery for these type of jobs. They go cheap and are indestructible Thanks Nice rigs good job Not here to criticize.

[@johnnyrocket8523]

Chipper or scraper ! With that much pulling/pushing power you’d be better off leaving the tractor in neutral his spinning is taking your ground clearance lowering the front of the trailer into the ground

[@ПётрОщепков-с3щ]

Ура! В Канаде тоже есть бездорожье!

[@dimauvarov1606]

Если б не редкий тягач фред, вообще подумал бы что либо урал или сибирь.

[@lesterxxx7642]

the boss sets at a deck and wants the loads out. he does not know the trouble we have doing it

[@basspromike]

I don't see how those axels stay attached to the frame

[@maximumpower102]

good skidder operators

[@firecaptaintom6670]

I remember Bobby Goodson rolling out round bales over soft sand to form it up. Whoda thunk.

[@tommymann69]

Someone call Bobby goodson of all terrain logging

[@BenBieb]

..even he has better road preparation for his onroad trucks than these "heroes" here..

[@Carnage6.0L]

This guy has no idea what hes doing. Amateur at it's best. You can tell how hes talking.

[@Carnage6.0L]

Makes you wonder why loggers use sand

[@bladerunner6354]

@@Carnage6.0L How much sand pounded into the mud they plowed up into the processor. If they prepare sight before move in day it would help!!

[@davestinson5691]

Man i hope y'all get paid well. Seems like a headache of a job. But gotta get it done though

[@defiant9809]

If it had been up too me I would have just taken the truck outta the equazion. Bring both skidders around too the front of the chipper, and lifted the front end up with the claws and some chains on either side of it. Then used the cat too push from behind while the skidders lifted and pulled from the front tell you got it too solid enough ground that the truck could take back over. Just my .02.

[@spencergreenhill7728]

If it's near Gladwin I know how much swamp land there is. lots

[@maeltztpi8529]

Lory good

[@raydeal5777]

Did that off and on for 30 years and the high mountains of Washington State steep cliffs and switchbacks I need a cat.

[@tomfields2700]

That poor truck. It must be a good one. Log on.......That should get a lot of views

[@billyhighfill]

Geez!!! That's some soupy stuff!!

[@cantbyou3086]

Wow you guys could make your own matting to sit those on so you don't sink into the mud while working there but nope, let's just make it harder on the equipment and yourselves. hell park on top of pad made of bark and a couple of logs.

[@StumpjumperVideosPA]

god were gluttons for punishment aint we johnboy ?

[@StumpjumperVideosPA]

boy if we could just get some more rain , just to keep the dust down lol !

[@АндрейПересвет-м9э]

Under the wheels of a trailer, a sheet of iron, and like a sled.

[@Kevin-is-here]

Why don’t they just have a way to hook it straight to a skidder instead of yanking on the truck?

[@tmanb2010]

We use mats you should try some?

[@shorelogger4033]

All I can say John is Damit man!

[@edsonkidwell9813]

Why no chains on the skidders

[@bladerunner6354]

Soils don't warrant chains, but don't tell'em!!

[@Rightwinger1982]

That pusher needs to lift and allways keep pressure. That would be tuff but it would help.

[@philaudiostrike8746]

might as well just have the chipper on a skid at that point

[@ClarissaPacker]

Oh look the pop bottles still where it was left.

[@trentwatts8670]

Do you ever get used to pulling on your equipment like that I know you hate it