I discovered something with pop-ups. It doesn't matter how small or large it is. They can all pretty much fit 4 adults very comfortably. I have an older one and the water doesn't work in it which I thought would be a big deal but it isn't. Having an awning allows us to cover our outdoor setup which has a prep table (I ordered a fish cutting table that has a sink!).
@Treeplanter735 жыл бұрын
Jayco used to produce the 806, I owned one for 3 years. My 3 toddler boys boys and I went on many camping adventures. It was all I could afford after divorce. Great memories.
@jamesdemarco56714 жыл бұрын
Shawn, I have an 1986 Jayco J 806 Deluxe it's still hanging in there, keeping an eye on the wood for dry rot, not bad for a 34 year old pop-up.
@zedmak4 жыл бұрын
They will remember all of those trips.
@scottb44943 жыл бұрын
Those are the trips that you’re never going to forget 👍
@johnnydoe664 жыл бұрын
My wife and I use to own a 8' Palomino pop-up back in the late 90's. It had a dry weight of 900 lbs, had a built in ice chest, 2 burner stove top, awning, and factory tinted windows. I pulled it with a Ford Splash, single cab, 4 cylinder, 5 speed with no issues.
@JEG69195 жыл бұрын
finally, a trailer you don't need a super duty for. ;)
@ironrose34335 жыл бұрын
Please give the prices, thanks.
@yeyis0528 күн бұрын
I had one I loved in for a summer Construction Job. Once I was done using it I sold it. Great little camper. There were on site showers and restrooms so it worked out pretty well.
@MrDannyVeal4 жыл бұрын
I had one this size for 8 years. I loved it and so easy to own.
@upshifter53164 жыл бұрын
I have the 92 version of this. Looks like they updated colors and switched to LEDs. Otherwise it’s exactly the same!!! And it’s the perfect size for us with 2 kids. Don’t want anyone to forget they are camping!
@professorr.54274 жыл бұрын
The 176 is perfect. 🤩
@deancollins64064 жыл бұрын
We have a 2007 Fleetwwod Bayside that has a dinette slide out and a kitchen work space/storage on the opposite side. Slide outs are not a new thing. We love the floor space, all the storage and 2 king size beds. Easy to pull with our 2003 Explorer Sport Trac.
@CroakerOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Coming from years of tent camping, I would love a popup with out a sink, stove, and "fridge". I just want a small cabin, two beds, and a heater. Maybe a residential AC on the side.
@jamesmathias69734 жыл бұрын
I want the same thing! I actually took the sink, stove, and icebox out of my current popup and put another bed in it instead. There is an outside connection for the stove (if not you can buy a portable stove, we use coolers to keep things cold, and just use water from the campground. If they just moved the door over and could make a larger bed at the bottom you could sleep 6 with some storage (that is all you need). You could buy a portable AC unit or heater if you wanted it.
@HerrP584 жыл бұрын
Look to an a-frame. Rockwood and Aliner and others produce cabins on wheels. With heat, a/c, the works, in a tiny instant-up package.
@CroakerOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
@@HerrP58 Thanks for the reminder. Been in a bunch of A-frames but, back then, I wasn't impressed with the space compared to the price per square foot of living space of a pop-up. Although, now after some more research I've dropped the idea of a pop-up due to the time requirement to deploy and break down along with a few other reasons. Will have check out a-frames again. Would love to camp more during the summer and this past one with the heat, humidity, and bad weather was tough.
@dumbcough3 жыл бұрын
I agree,you can keep all of the extras,less of course the heater.I've been looking at tear drops,way to expensive nice and all that,but I just want to be off of the ground for a bargain price.
@FredBiesinger6 ай бұрын
Check out the new OTG pop ups OTG stands for off the ground I've been looking at them The smallest is around 8k
@plutoplatters4 жыл бұрын
One of the MOST important points ( not everyone's 5 foot 6)
@kittydavies74484 жыл бұрын
the a-frame trailers looked really cool
@oldmillrd15064 жыл бұрын
A-frames are much better for all kinds of reasons. I've had both and what you lose in total space you get back in a much better camper.
@doogals4 жыл бұрын
A grandfather had one similar in the early '80s. Except his did not have a back bed, just a flat wall.
@brentvance39585 жыл бұрын
Our first pop up was like the second one a Starcraft 3316. It was 16 ft closed and about 25 ft opened. Everywhere we went people loved it.
@seaw55944 жыл бұрын
Had a 1983 Coleman colonial xl. Slept 6 and was under 8 feet compacted down. 17 ft expanded. Under 1000lbs
@bazh60414 жыл бұрын
LOL American concepts of 'small' are hillarious.... we have a Pennine Pathfinder in the UK which is the same weight as the unit shown and similar dimensions... that has a separate toilet compartment with washbasin, 3 burner hob, full oven and separate grill, more storage, and considerably more refined design. Also a huge custom awning which can be extended with extra 'bedrooms'. The Pennine Fiesta offers most the same facilities, including the bathroom, in an even smaller package.
@drock51724 жыл бұрын
As a pop up owner, they are great beginner of towing, next is a t.t. They make bigger pop ups than the last unit you looked at, they make high wall models with tandem axels, stove with oven, microwave l, bigger fridge.. side slide out, larger couch
@evegem89782 жыл бұрын
What does t.t. Stand for ?
@EdgarRodriguez-ms7yk2 жыл бұрын
@@evegem8978 Travel Trailer
@herb78775 жыл бұрын
We had 2 tent trailers as our family grew. First one was medium sized & 2nd one was a large one (no deck) . Worked very well for 3 kids & 2 adults and using mom's station wagon . Only down side; taking them down in the rain.
@thelonestarguy69735 жыл бұрын
I have that Flagstaff MAC 176 LTD and love it. Great for weekend getaways and hunting trips.
@nathankoroush79184 жыл бұрын
Snow is even worse.
@tinaaurand72045 жыл бұрын
We had the smallest Jayco popup they made. One end was a full and the other was around a twin. It was quite comical from the outside.
@wendywilson17363 жыл бұрын
Sounds cute 💁♀️
@Taconephotography5 жыл бұрын
Does my mountain bike have the towing capacity for this?
@diananeal96455 жыл бұрын
You'll need a dually to pull that one
@Sebastian_Dinwiddie5 жыл бұрын
Diana Neal I’m thinking a 450.
@Everetttango14 жыл бұрын
A dually with 22 inch rims, and those little bitty tires-
@bensonsspeedshop11915 жыл бұрын
Awesome Popups, Sir! Thanks for reviewing and posting these! Put the large one behind my Class C for all of our Grandkids!
@ianfurqueron58505 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the smallest pop-up with that bathroom set-up of the larger trailer.
@jenniferp19174 жыл бұрын
That would be perfect. Just a bed and a bath. I don't want to buy and tow a trailer and still have to use the campground bathroom!! But I don't want all the other bells and whistles inside taking up space.
@jefffroman70445 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing a more modest RV. What were the cool-looking A-frame RVs across the way?
@mgkleym5 жыл бұрын
Rockwood/flagstaff a frames probably. They are a really nice folding option if you only need one perminate bed.
@mannydavidson96285 жыл бұрын
The Jayco 8sd is also a small pop up camper. Has fridge, furnace and sink
@HerrP584 жыл бұрын
That and the basic 10sd are fine models, until they quit makin' 'em.
@brianhanlon96022 жыл бұрын
The wife and I started out looking at the 175 but we ended up with the MAC 206LTD
@GirlArmy213 жыл бұрын
I have a bare bones tent trailer and it weighs in at 225-250 lbs. your smallest trailer is huge!! Lol all really nice
@chriscioccio48265 жыл бұрын
We have a 176, super easy to tow. We have spent over 2 weeks in it Florida. It is the type of camper that you sleep in and not much else but we were never looking for a place hang out in, really just sleep.
@kenworthNH4 жыл бұрын
That's the beauty of the pop-up. Gets you off the ground at least. It's cool to have options but we just wanted to move past tent camping. But our pop-up still only required a tent site rental
@roydavis22425 жыл бұрын
The smallest pop-up I ever saw was a one that was pulled behind a Harley Davison. I'm not sure if it was a homemade one or not. The second one reminded me of the 95 Jayco Cardinal designer series we had. It had the wet bath like that and a California King in the back. The bed held the wife and me plus her cocker spaniel and my 85lb Siberian Husky with room to spare.
@The_JEB5 жыл бұрын
That larger pop up camper would be good for hunting if you and a friend go out for a weekend, throw a quad on the front and perhaps one in the back of your half ton.
@marthamaggard8192 жыл бұрын
Are there any pop ups with just beds, a/c, electricity connections.
@Unboxx_It4 жыл бұрын
Long time fan here. I have learned a lot from you and your content. Thanks again for all of your contributions to the RV community. Currently, I have a 2018 Avenger 29RBS. I’m looking for something extra small that can simply accommodate me and my two kids 2yr & 3yr old when I the wife doesn’t want to go. I have been searching for a bit with no luck. Must have are toilet and Shower. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. 2013 F250 6.2L . Thank again.
@smoguli4 жыл бұрын
Older ones where lighter, my '96 Rockwood LTD weight about 1,000 lbs and can sleep 6. The slide out beds are only 48" wide and we have no fridge, maybe that's why it's lighter. And judging by the finish, look of the frame and general construction of the first model you showed us, not a lot has changed on how these popups are built. I tow mine with a 4 cyl Dodge Journey and it's maxed out (according to the owner's manual I can tow a max of 1,000 lbs with 5 passengers and luggage). So far after 3 years I haven't encountered a hill that it cannot climb (sometime slower in a lower gear but it still makes it to the top). I thought about buying the V6 but it's towing capacity is not much higher, 2,500 lbs with 1 to 2 passengers, 2,000 lbs with 3 to 4 passengers and only 1,500 lbs with 5 to 6 passengers. 30 years ago my father in law used to tow a popup camper with his '86 Nissan Micra, with a 4 speed manual transmission... somehow it survived the ordeal. In Europe they tow 2,000 and 3,000 lbs trailers with small cars, It's a shame we have to buy humongous pickup trucks and SUV to do the same in North America.
@campbellvonjordan685 жыл бұрын
Man a wet bath situation like that... you'd have to be very comfortable with the people you're travelling with. Someone with an upset stomach with be sharing that story with everyone on board.
@nadinecanabou20693 жыл бұрын
can thos tires go off road at all or can better tires go on it???
@chrismansbarger43245 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine has the 2nd one. He put his 4 wheelers and a side by side on the cargo deck. He pulls it with a Colorado ZR2 diesel.
@Taconephotography5 жыл бұрын
Awsome!!
@nms1508 Жыл бұрын
I’m confused on the origa 2k pounds you mentioned then the dry weight??
@baconbap11 ай бұрын
Honey I used to have a 13 foot Scamp. This trailer looks like a palace compared.😊
@TonyTruth-s9z4 ай бұрын
I have a 2004 model of this camper. I bought it used for when we take a long roadie or a couple-nighter. Good enough for sleeping. Hard to be comfortable sitting inside. Not much storage. Previous owner added front jacks and a receiver to hold a bike rack of shelf rack. The middle bench is useless for storage as it holds the water tank and power converter. When you flip the sink for travel, you lose a lot of floor space.
@djkenny12023 жыл бұрын
Outdoor showeron smaller one?
@gregc88615 жыл бұрын
Got an 12' '05 Bonair TT with a slide out, it makes a big difference in space and comfort for sure. Tow that with the Sienna, no trouble.
@andyr53895 жыл бұрын
Screw pulling it. Buy a truck, even a half ton at 1300#, and put it on the bed of the truck. Cheaper then a truck camper. Haha.
@dedalliance15 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered with those open front toy haulers is it safe to pull without anything up there? I feel like the back end would be too heavy and want to lift the back of the truck up. Also, it would be hard to judge your tongue weight and what truck you might need to pull it, just some thoughts.
@nathandoro23295 жыл бұрын
I live the bigger one. I wonder if you can get it with an ac?
@ianfurqueron58505 жыл бұрын
I've seen a number of pop-up campers with AC units on the roof.
@Ecozzy01235 жыл бұрын
You can pull that behind my wife’s Camry!
@chrisrichtermindset4 жыл бұрын
Do you know what the hitch ball size it needs?
@okiebrown62014 жыл бұрын
2" is what I have on my 07 flagstaff 176ltd
@morgangentle15155 ай бұрын
How long is the box 6 or 8 ft
@dukeallen65623 ай бұрын
Why would you need jacks on the front?
@paulherring82085 жыл бұрын
Nice it has a theater
@fattie25505 жыл бұрын
I bought a brand new 2018 176SE Off road package, that thing was a piece of crap and sold it 5 months later. The roof was defective and needed to be replaced as soon as i took delivery.
@tomhawkins88553 жыл бұрын
Had a Jayco Eagle 8. Plenty of room no heater or ac but an ice box, stove and sink. Portable chem toilet, lifted with 13 inch wheels and generator mount. Pulled easy and straight. Some rat stole it from behind my house.
@Crashphoenix6664 жыл бұрын
Evidently you've never seen a Mini Mate camper, or a Time out... You want small and compact and can be pulled by literally anything, check those out
@MsDavis-xl6re4 жыл бұрын
Does the small one have an outside shower?
@davidklimek79995 жыл бұрын
Why isn't the slide outs plywood bottoms nor painted?
@eolson19645 жыл бұрын
why was the mattress dirty in larger pop-up?
@iqbalesmail98273 жыл бұрын
Would be nice how much does flagstaff 176 mini one costs on the road.
@pambluetoenails72234 жыл бұрын
Where is this lot that has all these pop-ups?
@stevenstrawn50094 жыл бұрын
As far as a pop up those are around 8k new then they want to charge you another 1k for AC after tax spending over 10k for something that is like a big tent with AC. Better getting a actual small trailer and have to worry canvas and can piss and crap if you have to in private.
@lanceg9114 жыл бұрын
Does this have an air conditioner?
@shadythereok4 жыл бұрын
Why would you want to heat hot water?
@lindaterrell61045 жыл бұрын
It looks quite a bit like the one we toured the USA with back in 1978.
@brendenellasfunadventures41864 жыл бұрын
What the price of the 176
@RC-nq7mg4 жыл бұрын
How the hell does that tiny thing weigh that much!? my 92 jayco deluxe is 21.5ft long when set up, and its dry weight is only around 1375lbs!
@SOU69005 жыл бұрын
A 1/2 ton square body with 3 on the tree could more than likely even handle this runt of a camper 😆
@oldmillrd15064 жыл бұрын
Problem with both of these is counter heights are way below standard. You have to bend over to use them. I have a pop-up with a high wall option that gives you normal counter heights and allows for a taller refrigerator with a freezer. Something to think about when looking at any pop-up camper.
@the_charter51345 жыл бұрын
Is it 30amp?
@BikinCO5 жыл бұрын
The second pop up is similar to our Somerset E3 Deck. We love ours and have pulled it from our home in GA to Key West, Acadia NP, Santa Fe and Summit County Colorado. No structural wood makes it pretty bullet proof. I'd love to see you review one for your subscribers as I know they'd love it too.
@dennisbass24604 жыл бұрын
Wow really nice pI loved them👍👍
@lenward4745 жыл бұрын
Totally great reviews. Out of context!!!perhaps you might be able with all your experience to look at last video from..less junk more journey channel....they bought dodge 3500 and air bags were removed. If you watch you will see factory system..dealer ants 5000. Or more. Thought of you right away! KZbin helping KZbinrs with trucks and big fifth wheel!!thanks!!!!
@akbychoice5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone make a trailer in size to the first one but, with a solid walks and pushouts front and rear to become twice the towed length?
@BTBRVReviews5 жыл бұрын
im gonna show you one soon that will blow you away
@akbychoice5 жыл бұрын
Big Truck Big RV looking forward to it. I love innovative ideas.
@Everetttango14 жыл бұрын
Aliner
@66906985 жыл бұрын
I love your channel and videos! I believe you are the one I've subscribed to. I hoping if you would, please feature some Rv's etc with king-size beds? I am 6'6" and a big dude! My wife and I have a king-size bed at home. Thanks again and keep up the great work!
@charlesdu99415 жыл бұрын
Pop ups look awesome, I'd love to have one for a motorcycle track day. But since I'm a RV noob I have some questions. How safe are these in a lightning storm? Is it even possible to get ac inside one of these? Or will I just have to get a big fan to sit in front of?
@Everetttango14 жыл бұрын
Most people never get struck by lightning -
@kenworthNH4 жыл бұрын
You can certainly get one with an ac unit installed. Even the smallest campers have that as an option. Just need to find one
@ericnegron83315 жыл бұрын
How much for the small one?
@1985jimmydean5 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Can you so some reviews of 'A' Class motorhome accessories like dinghy tow bars and brake setups. Would really like your opinions on some of these solutions.
@wrenchone50035 жыл бұрын
A pop up I can tow with a SUV and bring a couple dirt bikes that's great!
@pierreginhoux86812 жыл бұрын
Gosto do Rv Riverside retro trailer 166 👍
@michellegilliland45502 жыл бұрын
how much .
@greygoose4x465 жыл бұрын
Great video ... that second unit is interesting but ...... it’s just so much work to set that up and then the fridge is just too small so you still need to pack a cooler and you can’t use the front desk once at camp because the bed opens up to it :/. Not great for use imo
@kevinjasper66204 жыл бұрын
Not to pop your balloon but several years ago I saw on the internet a pop-up that was smaller. It had one fold out twin size bed. They may not even make it now
@jaredhalvorson35325 жыл бұрын
Is this ATV towable ? Lol, would be tempting
@davehobby6421 Жыл бұрын
The small flagstaff look nice, except they put furnace exhaust beside door, should be on driver side. The exhaust release heat and fume all time
@TexasScout5 жыл бұрын
didn't see any air conditioning.....
@BTBRVReviews5 жыл бұрын
it has the new El Natural AC... self regulating with no filter to change out
@pierreduplessis15075 жыл бұрын
Like the smallest of the flagstaff trailer. Pity they dont get exported too other countries
@natewebb14703 жыл бұрын
Great review… but now I want one and they’re more then I wanted to spend! 😂😩
@HerrP583 жыл бұрын
@Nate Webb Indeed. Today 2017 MAC176's used, some are listing for $12,000. But bought new 4 years ago, they cost maybe $7,00 all maxed out. Yikes.
@NatureRecycleFlorida5 жыл бұрын
Can a F450 tow it ?
@Everetttango14 жыл бұрын
Only if it’s a mall crawler setup-
@nathankoroush79184 жыл бұрын
Better chip it and install air bags.
@nosnerd19675 жыл бұрын
Love the second unit
@OOICU8124 жыл бұрын
Imagine towing one of those behind your touring bike.
@fjtalleyauthor22424 жыл бұрын
Pop-ups have had slideouts for many years: they really aren't new.
@mantiscity3 жыл бұрын
I wish it was a hardtop pop up.
@jeffwright9431 Жыл бұрын
That first trailer is 500 lbs. heavier than a comparable viking, coleman, or starcraft from the 70's and 80's.
@jamescoker69124 жыл бұрын
This things awsome compared to a small tent.
@openyoureyes39694 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I like those little tires.
@annmorris62803 жыл бұрын
Hate them. I would imagine it wouldn't take long for a wheel bearing to go to heck. I want big wheels/tires!!
@gilbertorejon3144 жыл бұрын
How much $$$$$$$
@LogitechXibanga5 жыл бұрын
europeans be like : well thats just a regular size what is this guy talking about?
@rstormo685 жыл бұрын
LogitechXibanga oh? My last traveltrailer was 30 feet. And yes i`m european..Norwegian to be exact.
@LogitechXibanga5 жыл бұрын
@@rstormo68 whats 30 ft?
@rstormo685 жыл бұрын
My traveltrailer..maybe i wrote something wrong, english is not my first langue
@LogitechXibanga5 жыл бұрын
@@rstormo68 i asked how much is 30 feets in meteres XD
@rstormo685 жыл бұрын
Around 10 meters.
@randybryant99365 жыл бұрын
That is what i think of when you say pop up
@plutoplatters4 жыл бұрын
before i watch this... i'm betting the height of the roof inside wont be mentioned !!
@whty5414 жыл бұрын
Figured it would be lighter.
@kevchard52145 жыл бұрын
Its still a pop up. I will never own another pop up again. They are tents that take 5 times longer to deploy and fall apart in 5 years if you use them on a regular bases.
@HerrP583 жыл бұрын
My instant-up Coleman 6 person tent with rainfly is all staked down and has furniture in it within minutes. It would take me longer to level a trailer before even beginning all the other steps to set up a popup. So yeah, there are definitely time issues and labor to consider. Specially for us over-60 folk.