CRAZY VIOLATION HEARING…”I DON’T GIVE A FK WHAT YOU SAY !!!”…. ONE DEF, THREE JUDGES, FOUR HEARINGS!

Caught this crazy bond violation hearing the other day and found some prequels as well as a brief follow up to bring YOU the entire story…. More fascinating insight into the challenges our courts face on a daily basis and how they deal with them…
This remix is intended to provide better insight into how our courts and the folks who run them administer justice to the public they serve. Remember they have to deal with folks who are often having their worst day on a daily basis. We also hope to bring you cases with interesting legal concepts, twists and interactions you may not encounter elsewhere…
This commentary remix work constitutes a fair use of any copyrighted materials under section 107 of the US copyright law. Video was edited only to add relevant commentary and to reduce time in the hopes it will be more convenient to be viewed by more folks thereby raising public interest. All defendants are innocent until they aren’t…officially.
#court #zoom #karen

[@ConsciousExpression]

Thanks! I know how much work this is. I have too many ongoing subscriptions so this is for not just this video, but like the next 6 months or so!

[@OSGCourtWatch]

damn CE...that is SO generous...thank you SO much, its well apprciated...!

[@Lady1974M]

You are so sweet! I'd also love to give something but I've got Law School bills to pay for right now. One day, when I'm raking in the dosh from representing naughty clients I won't forget those who helped me learn a little something along the way. That means you Mr SquishyGardener! We luv you! But for now I always make sure to hit that Like button and leave a comment if I have one.

[@MrKevinw6]

@@Lady1974M *clients who are accused of naughty things

[@measl]

@@OSGCourtWatch *As someone who has worked as a paralegal, I fully understand how much work you put into this one guy: thank you! If you have a sponsorship account **_other_** than Patreon, I'd like to add you to it. Do you???*

[@commandershepard4235]

@@MrKevinw6 allegedly accused of naughty things

[@soxpeewee]

If this continues we'll see a murder sentencing

[@Leafgreen1976]

Yup. Complete psycho that believes laws and rules are for everyone else.

[@Littlemsambitious]

That guy is a creep and incredibly narcissistic. He has absolutely been telling her whatever it takes to get her to tell the court to drop it because he’s a typical abusive manipulator. He can’t stay out of trouble because he can’t even shut up long enough to listen to the conditions.

[@lifesyphon1]

“Just sitting”? In a bush?! In the middle of the night?! Sounds totally normal to me.

[@JordanEmede_376]

I do tht sht all the time 😂

[@moonchildluvsbobcrane]

Covered in dirt pretending to be a potato 😂

[@norwoodsd]

I totally agree... I cover myself in dirt and pretend to be a carrot...it's so fun

[@moonchildluvsbobcrane]

@@norwoodsd 🤣

[@wendybrunell8898]

​@@moonchildluvsbobcranespit out my coffee

[@johanhjalmarsson2801]

The explosive anger he displays in the end is very telling. A ticking timebomb.

[@bronwyngavin6076]

It amazes me how “educated” these jailbirds are about their “rights”, but somehow they can’t stay out of jail.

[@debswatching]

Yes, the epitome of ironic.

[@eh-i1841]

That’s where they learn their rights.

[@610610billy610610]

They are repeating lines they memorized. Everyone should know their rights. They dont though. They get arrested and find any law that half way pertains to them and then memorize it thinking they found the magic ticket.

[@alzeis4963]

I work in the prison system. Inmates are extremely smart and think they can outsmart everyone. They use manipulation every chance they get and use the law and all rules to get their way only when it benefits them. They can’t see that their behavior only gets them further in trouble because they blame everyone else for their problems

[@robertkeeney3898]

Their knowledge of the system because of their chronic offenses gives them the upper hand, especially if they're not given a short leash. Antisocial narcissists will always try to take advantage.

[@LarryXLR]

"So you're violating my civil rights by not letting me contact my victim?"

[@reptoidrenaissance]

Gotta love how he thinks the victim doesn't have the same right to association. He apparently thinks if she doesn't want to associate with him then he can just force her to. It's absolutely insane behavior.

[@shawnshawn1366]

@@reptoidrenaissance if your in a trial you absolutely have the right to face your accuser.

[@Proctor13]

​@@shawnshawn1366Yeah in trial but not in the phone with a no contact order lol

[@ruthgiles8926]

​@@shawnshawn1366during court, maybe. That's not what this is about.

[@shawnshawn1366]

@@ruthgiles8926 that’s what I said. “If you’re in trial” and it’s not a maybe it’s a fact

[@tarenthall]

His civil rights are being violated…🤨 what about his victims rights?

[@91prostreetstang]

They are 100% meant as threats, and he needs to be in prison.......

[@TruhbledPrincess]

You would be SHOCKED what people say and do on jail phone calls despite the fact that the calls are interrupted with reminders that the calls are recorded

[@BlueSparkshine]

Oh do tell please. A few good examples?

[@TruhbledPrincess]

@@BlueSparkshine oh lets see - the state inmate discussing with a friend using 'code language' how to improve their plan for getting stuff into the prison. The many calls to family discussing the alleged offense IN DETAIL even though they dont intend to plead guilty. and as a fun addition lets not forget the third party calls to the attorney's office (3rd party calls violate phone rules in most facilities and can result in no phone time not to mention It is never necessary to use a 3rd party to call your attorney lol). To name a few recurring themes lol

[@ConsciousExpression]

Not after watching OSG and LTWMike's channels I wouldn't! Of course we see the worst of the worst because they're the most interesting, but man there's no shortage of material. OSG and LTWM have steady gigs for some time to come.

[@TwistOfFate444]

Is there someone who reviews them regularly I presume? Man I’d love that job!

[@TruhbledPrincess]

@@TwistOfFate444 it's the job of whoever gets them. They're not provided in every case cause they're not relevant in every case. And if the office is big enough probably an internet or new guy has the job. In my small office it's, unfortunately, my job lol

[@RGTFLA85]

The right to remain silent is a gift. He said so many incriminating things.

[@user-pv7mg1tb4f]

This guy definitely has a "No Regerts" tattoo

[@victorvarela1480]

These type of COWARDS should be dealt with HARSHLY!

[@realtinny99]

Damn right

[@jimsachtjen119]

He completely understands everything except what courts orders mean.

[@adamrushford]

true, he's very clever though, essentially if you get the original charges dropped than you are never subject to the orders. you can sue for each of them. it's not as foolish as it appears, that being said I'm not impressed with his intellect or legal knowledge.

[@Psyrecx]

Well, he also certainly doesn't know the difference between civil rights and civil privileges.

[@hansmueller3029]

@@Psyrecx exactly. He completely understands but feels its his right to argue terms with a judge when he has council however ineffective he believes them to be, he needs to express himself through his attorney

[@smartvssmartass4694]

Sounds like he has common sense and the courts don't!

[@jeremythompson1593]

@@smartvssmartass4694 Thank You!!! The first comment that makes any sense regarding this case!!! I feel for this guy!!The complainant his wife or girlfriend tells the judge this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion, mainly because of the victims advocate people, and things are certainly not what they appear to be… But the judge decides to agree with the victims advocates people “Tree Huggers believing in nothing but world peace” who she has never met before, and not the person at the center of the case, his own girlfriend/wife who wants him back so they can be a family again…💯💯

[@im2bizy]

He’s going to contact the victim, and the more he talks, the more he’s proving my thoughts, correct.

[@mmaman67]

The defense lawyer's face when the defendant starts popping off is priceless. "It is so over for this guy"

[@bradmurphy5482]

That’s all well and fine, except for the order of protection is bogus he shouldn’t of been arrested for treating him like a criminal when he just doesn’t conduct himself well… the charges were dropped… kangaroo Court

[@GA-wq8xq]

He intimidated the victim and he kept making contact when he should not have, he kept violating laws and orders. He deserves jail time.

[@reptoidrenaissance]

​Objectively wrong, you're just defending a narcissistic abuser. Are you him, or are you just someone like him who's equally clueless about the law? Tell me you're a psychotic stalker without telling me...

[@silversmoke6]

​@@bradmurphy5482 it's clearly not bogus. He's proven himself incapable of self control and is clearly dangerous and aggressive with no respect for anyone. He called her 15 times in a row for gods sake. He's an abusive pos

[@realtinny99]

@@silversmoke6exactly and he looks to have serious anger issues which makes the victim even more likely to be hurt or even killed by this guy they really need to help her get residency somewhere safe and where he wouldn’t find her.

[@christinajohnson2105]

Amazing how defendants are always the caregivers for ill family members 😂

[@snmnmidld6203]

Crims all share the same script 😂

[@jerseygirl4159]

Right! And they’re all living at the person’s house because “they’re taking care of them” when 99% of the time they’re the ones being taken care of 🙄 He acted like he looked forward & couldn’t wait to take care of him. Whoever he is taking care of will be lucky if he gets them a glass of water

[@jerseygirl4159]

“None of this has been tooken care of” maybe she should focus on getting an education and being a strong woman & mother to her children instead of making this loser her priority. In her mind she’s thinking can’t we all see how much he loves her that he’s abusive & then not abide by the court because he still continues to contact her. No girl this isn’t love he’s an abusive controlling ahole. Unfortunately she will end up knocked up he’ll continue to abuse her until they inevitably break up then they will hate each other same old boring story. She thinks “it’s me & him against the world” it’s funny how people that are healthy and respect one another& truly love each other don’t start with restraining orders. He throws her crumbs and she makes a cake out of it.

[@thewitt55]

Right, because if they weren't the caregivers, their families might be carefree!

[@silversmoke6]

​@@jerseygirl4159she is very clearly a victim who has been brainwashed and is being controlled by her abuser. It's not so simple as just leaving him.

[@KimberlyLetsGo]

He threw horrible shade on her by saying something like who would want a 35 year old woman with two kids? Then the next clip, she's his fiancée. What a piece of work.

[@BilgePump]

Apparently those 35 years were rough!

[@kikatx08]

Right, like he’s a prize, Please. She needs to get away from him permanently. She has low self- esteem and is easily controlled by this man.

[@YvonneMelvin]

And he is no winner winner chicken dinner.

[@SteveCanon453]

Well, he is not wrong about that .

[@ReapWhatYaSow]

I don't see it nor heard what you are saying. I watched it twice and am confident in what I heard. He was saying, "I promised a relationship?" as if a 30 something year old woman with 2 kids is so easily manipulated that if I promise you a relationship, then you have to drop everything and do what I say. He meant that she isn't a spring chicken incapable of making her own decisions. He wasn't diminishing her value to him.

[@brians3948]

My sisters abuser was sentenced to a diminutive sentence of one year. He tried to contact her everyday regardless of the no contact. He would eventually make contact to her through his counselor in jail. I too was outside smoking a cigarette at my sisters after one of their ineffectual arguments and noticed dude creeping in the bushes. Whenever someone’s in the bushes it’s not good!

[@Woodman-Spare-that-tree]

He was only there to find his sandals 😂

[@Matt-lp1xp]

Did she go to court and tell a judge she wants contact and plans on building a family with him

[@silversmoke6]

​@@Matt-lp1xp do you understand how coercive abuse works? Abusers like this man whittle away at a victims support systems, their self esteem and their independence, until they have nothing left except their abuser. Its not uncommon for victims to want contact with their abuser. They believe their abuser is all they have.

[@nornuts]

I love when defendants that are clearly in the wrong think they can threaten a federal lawsuit with the expectation that it’s going to scare the prosecution from pursuing the case. It’s honestly laughable.

[@ShixB]

Especially when they have a court appointed attorney for already existing charges.

[@mattyp6908]

Particularly while the state already has you incarcerated

[@AnthonyWilliams-ew3wp]

What a mess of a couple. I can’t see this ending happily.

[@munroborisenko7278]

Yes, the short clip were we finally see her is sad. She seems kind of "out of it"; very vulnerable.

[@winstonsmith2663]

This guy is really good at making this problem worse and worse.

[@mojoman2001]

Exactly. That's what criminal defendants do.

[@eatmywords]

he should just schuht the foot up

[@user-kl5nm3xo2f]

This guy is a clown if I've ever seen one. None of his arguments hold water and he's so quick to act like he's knowledgeable in the law when clearly he isn't. I can't stand people with a jack of all trades sort of knowledge which is really all it is. This guy has zero deep knowledge on any thing in the legal world which is why I have no choice but to label him both a complete idiot and a clown each and every time he acts like he knows the law. What a complete idiot

[@Maximismixing]

Next thing you know he'll be the Governor of Illinois 😂

[@curezilla]

​@@eatmywordsexactly. When the judge stepped away, he just wouldn't shut up.

[@nascardave01]

Oh, flipping the bird and cussing….great way to win friends and influence judges….

[@user-jy3zl2vp4b]

It is the sequal to the well known book! In case the original book didn't work! A plan B, if you will.😆

[@marydunigan1721]

@@user-jy3zl2vp4b lol!

[@aeromedical6776]

I have a feeling Donna Euton will allow him to contact her regardless of what any piece of paper states. Unless he’s physically incarcerated and has his phone privileges revoked, he’s going to continue to contact her. He thinks that just because he disagrees with the no contact order and his gf is on board with contact, he’s under no obligation to obey it.

[@raversfantasy8873]

Which imo is the right thing to do. How the f can those judges not immediately revoke the tpo and let them talk?!... Sure, sue him for violating it in the past etc. But revoke the tpo of those people freely being in love ffs.

[@user-sm9mb6ms5j]

​@@raversfantasy8873 Actions have consequences.

[@samanthawyatt6641]

The bad thing with restriction to the victims home means that the victim becomes the prisoner instead of the person who is charged.

[@johntimm7265]

I feel sorry for the public defender. This guy gives him nothing to work with.

[@jacksyoutubechannel4045]

Totally agree, though I did find it strange when they were left on the Zoom call together and he said something to the effect of, "Only the state can be guilty of intimidating witnesses, not me," and she just... didn't say anything. As a public defender, I think I'd want to make sure my client knew that he absolutely could be guilty of intimidating witnesses, and not to do it! (I also probably wouldn't let him ramble into the KZbin ether without knowing what was going to be said.)

[@christinekelly8766]

@@jacksyoutubechannel4045 he has a bad Apple. She said nothing......

[@Gfysimpletons]

I feel sorry for law abiding tax payers…….the public defender signed up for this….

[@daddysgirl102938]

@@jacksyoutubechannel4045 probably because he clearly doesn't listen to anyone it would just lead to a big argument completely pointless.

[@JordanEmede_376]

He literally tried 😂 all he could do!

[@reydelostontos7131]

I'm are retired judge. This case shows how people can act nice and respectful and be pretty convincing, then you get a glimpse a side of their violent side.

[@bizarrelight4670]

You are definitely not a retired judge.

[@JordanEmede_376]

​@@bizarrelight4670😂👌

[@truthsayer9534]

I don’t think there are two words any clearer than “NO CONTACT”. Typical abuser. Can’t control his emotions or actions.

[@voiceofreason9238]

Agree. If he can't control his mouth in front of multiple judges he certainly is not capable of controlling his violent behavior with his fiance.

[@messrsandersonco5985]

Well maybe women can start by learning NOT to select these men. A man doesn't have to hit me for me to avoid him. I realise that not all women have good instincts but then perhaps they shouldn't fall into bed with men they don't know, and subsequently think they're "in love" with them.

[@uchihaamvs7558]

It usually dosent start that way. Thats the problem. Brings in the whole "He's not that bad all the time stuff." Still dumb it happens as much as ot does. ​@messrsandersonco5985

[@bellabambaa]

Or teach your crappy sons to be abusive. Crazy concept i know. 😆​@messrsandersonco5985

[@Scram673]

I pray they don’t procreate.

[@krista7103]

Looked him up, and according to Washtenaw court records, BOTH these cases were dismissed. However, while he was in jail, he assaulted a jail employee and is still going through court for that. Yeah - totally a non-violent dude whose temper isn’t terrifying. Completely normal dude! 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@bradmurphy5482]

So he was totally telling the truth, the whole time but yet you’re still going to heckle him, and the jail employees probably treated him even worse😮😅

[@JP_IN_TX]

@krista7103 Thank you for the update and context.

[@ingloriousbetch4302]

​@@bradmurphy5482having a case dismissed in no way says the crime didn't happen. Most adults know this.

[@robertnewman4105]

Its amazing what getsbdismissed, and why. Sometimes it seems honestly to be for convenience. ​@ingloriousbetch4302

[@justinbradley4083]

@@bradmurphy5482 It was dismissed because he was in jail for longer than he would have been if he was convicted cause he kept pushing back the trial and sentencing from all the stupid motions he filed

[@davidbennett9691]

"I'm not trying to br argumentative to the court" and then proceeds to argue with the court. Not a bright light.

[@PhilMMorton]

Hannah Apple is the real hero for keeping a straight face.

[@ToldAlthea]

Her nickname is “Cortland” , please refer to her as such. 😎

[@bizzarovision]

@43:39 defense attorney rethinking career choices 😂

[@tt14life90]

Our system is a joke. This guy needs to be locked up for a long time.

[@majinbooch3787]

I love how criminals all of a sudden know the law after they violate it

[@barelyasurvivor1257]

Unfortunately, Jailhouse Lawyers are a real, lasting thing.

[@tiffinyanderson4403]

Not to mention they’re are so polite. I’m southern so we say yes mam and no mam and my three sons do as well. But this guy is playing with a few cards shy of a full deck for sure. And he’s dangerous.

[@williambiggs9752]

Right it’s like they’re someone in every jail who convinces these morons that they can beat their charges with the constitution but fail to realize the person telling them all that garbage is doing it from INSIDE of jail. Lol 😂

[@barelyasurvivor1257]

My favorite Judge comment is the one where the Judge tells the Sov Cit "Blacks Law Is A dictionary not a Law Book".

[@joebeach6289]

I've met a few of these guys in jail. All annoying

[@TheEcm84]

This guy is dangerous. His entitlement and disregard for her is terrifying. You know he's not going to stop, whether its her or another woman, someone is going to suffer

[@MrsTooTall]

PPL like him treat all their relationships with women the same way. SHe isn't the 1st one he has hit and wont be the last

[@tennysonparks2059]

Yeah, frightening! I can see the fear in her eyes.

[@SteveCanon453]

She wants to be with him . All charges should be tossed out .

[@anon7843]

This judge is full of shite. The “victim” doesn’t want the no contact order active, yet the judge won’t allow it. Only because her ego was hurt. The other charges can stand including violating the no contact order, but to not let 2 people interact when the “victim” wants to interact is biased af.

[@ChrisFerguson-zm4gt]

The victims advocate is the 1 who has no regard for the girl!

[@fcold9402]

Too bad she cannot hold this "victim" in contempt.

[@michellepollard3591]

This is what happens when the courts and laws are too lenient and too many chances are given

[@brendadion7868]

ABSOLUTELY

[@robertwhelan9132]

When you are that well-known in the court system, you know something is wrong...

[@angeladansie4378]

Sounds like maybe our boy here met a SovCit professor in jail, the way he went from apologetic to lawsuits

[@jamiecook4557]

My thoughts, as well.

[@StephenSpring1]

looks like he's also coming off of heroin. Which would explain the agitation from one day to the next.

[@stevem.8491]

He wasn't apologetic! He was just saying words that he thought would magically make him look good.

[@totallylooney8292]

My thoughts as well. It seemed like between the first and second hearing...

[@Lady1974M]

That's what I said! Snap!

[@Brianld50]

I really appreciate all the hard work you put in to get these videos all put together in a group like this. It makes these cases make much more sense. Keep up the great work.

[@jimsachtjen119]

Not sure if serial stupid is a thing but this fool has perfected it.

[@brentfarvors192]

"But, she LOVES ME..." Enough so, she will have me put into a cage for whatever...

[@gimliman6]

She did everything she could to make sure his restrictions were limited to the protection order, and still he doesn't recognize how fair she is.

[@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701]

I could be wrong on this, ive been doing numbers while listening to this case but it seems to me that an argument happened, no physical violence, the police got involved, arrested someone (because in some states its required that someone goes to jail if a domestic call is made), this weird court group gets involved and the state listens to them more than the "victim" and everyone decides to have these court cases around this man and woman, who don't want these cases to happen. I mean.... am i accurate? Because it does not seem fair, it seems like massive overreach and an attempt to control people's personal lives. The whole thing seems like a massive clusterfuck where no one cares about the two people its about. Meanwhile they continue these unnecessary trails through some silly technicality.

[@dylancarr1703]

What are you talking about this is a kangaroo family court violating people's constitutional rights everyday the court unconstitutional in itself.

[@gimliman6]

@@dylancarr1703 you obviously have no clue.

[@dylancarr1703]

@@gimliman6 you have no clue of the constitution and freedom.Your a bootlicker government sheep.

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

@@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701 The initial thing may or may not have been a simple argument that got blown out of proportion but this guy keeps violating court orders and THAT is what keeps dragging this out. That being said, his outbursts here and in other places show he is prone to anger and violence and the victim is responding exactly like a DV victim that is still under their abuser's thumb.

[@JuliusCaesar888]

Jailhouse lawyers are the worst. Cringe to the max.

[@chad3232132]

Wow, Judge Frushour is a knock out. 😍

[@fehlrock]

@chad3232132 Hell Yah 😉

[@tylerchapman3999]

He responds with “I completely understand ma’am” every time the judge says something and his actions reflect the complete opposite

[@lauracrabb7169]

He understands, he just doesn’t care.

[@dianapeek6936]

Sadly I cannot understand his continued mumblings , so can't follow the case.

[@mikeg3439]

A lot of con men/women speak only for one purpose only: manipulate the listener.

[@ellendickey4769]

Yes. A manipulator.

[@meganlewis2424]

That first judge is the most reasonable judge I ever seen. She's been nothing but helpful and kind to him.

[@taunteratwill1787]

Until he has been given enough opportunity to KILL someone and everyone says " we never saw that coming" ! 😎

[@Sleightman3D]

Yeah, but we don't get to see her reaction to this dingleberry violating her no contact order 30 minutes after she issued it.

[@joesbarandgrill5393]

His public defender not so much.

[@DeborahWingard-ji4lz]

I HAVE ever seen, or I SAW! 🙄

[@KimmieSue.]

​@Bearcat_48 OMG Yes! I was looking to see if anyone said it before I did. Why are we putting time, money, and resources into prosecuting something where there clearly is no victim. They want to be a family. So who are these (can't help but to notice all women) who are these ppl to stand in their way? She claims the public isn't safe? How? The supposed victim is clearly saying she wanted none of this. There are ppl who actually need and want help yet they're wasting time on this bc they don't like the guy. The initial charge should be dropped so all other violations should be moot. This is how ppl get caught up in the system and have their lives derailed. This whole thing is absurd.

[@samtastic6237]

I can't fathom a mother begging to have a violent felon come back to her home and be with her children. Gross selfish behavior.

[@Ceba-pw8hk]

This woman is among the many women who take their abusers back over and over again. Thank goodness the law changed to where her testimony is no longer needed.

[@Raccoon_Mama.]

If this guy obeyed the law as often as he says so nauseatingly "I applogize" he'd never be in jail!!

[@MrPhilipIrving1]

This is proven to be false. They just released an innocent man that was in prison for 30 years.

[@eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653]

He is a chronic "apologizer".

[@bouffant-girl]

Exactly 💯 😂😅😊

[@bouffant-girl]

​@@MrPhilipIrving1 Completely Irrelevant to the Matter at Hand ✋️ 😅😊😂

[@dorbie]

Gotta love the apology followed by the bird flipping expletive laced rant. What a charmer.

[@ZachElamOfficial]

Magistrate Fink is such a wonderful person. She’s tough, but she also doesn’t make people feel like they’re stupid. “You’re right for making that connection, but…” and she’s so respectful with her retort. Classy lady.

[@cargopilotguy305]

Yeah I thought the same. She seems like a lovely person.

[@Brian1Graves]

When the courts are as lenient with this type of offender as this court has been, disaster will inevitably follow.

[@justthatonepersonsopinion]

Unfortunately if he has friends in jail he can gaw their jail number to call her still.

[@undecidedmiddleground5633]

What a fantastic compilation my friend! His behavior was out of control and he's getting that fantastic jailhouse lawyering that makes every judge, prosecutor, and LEO shake in their boots. 🙄He just doesn't seem to understand that his rights can be limited to ensure the safety of others. Many restrictions on rights are based on that clear fact. "Why can't I shoot my guns in my own backyard?" "Well, sir, you put six rounds through your neighbor's house." "I should be able to hit triple digits on my speedometer anywhere I want." "Well, ma'am, this fact may surprise you, but other people exist and want to be able to survive the trip to grandma's house." This is the "main character" syndrome and he keeps putting his Schuh in his mouth.

[@crabbyj]

What can go wrong with a jailhouse lawyer? Who would better know about jail than someone who's jailed? Oh yeah, the person who DIDN'T go to jail...someone, perhaps, who chose instead to go to, I don't know, maybe some kind of special school where they study law? Sounds crazy, I know, but maybe just crazy enough to work! 😅

[@OSGCourtWatch]

THANKS UMG !!

[@doribellan]

It is certainly a fantastic compilation and I value the time this channel put into bringing this series to us. I agree with you, but not if the victim is stating their protections are not needed and actually making matters worse. Not based on his behavior, but by splitting up this family against the victim’s desires. There should be an order loosening his restraining orders so the court can observe the necessity of their involvement.

[@undecidedmiddleground5633]

@@doribellan You haven't dealt with abusive relationships much, then? If not, I envy you. It is common for an abused partner to accept their abuser back over and over again. This creates frequent flyers for law enforcement and often medical calls. Eventually, the abused will end up dead. It sucks, but the state has the responsibility to prosecute the abuse, even against the abused's wishes, to protect society and the abused from the abuser.

[@undecidedmiddleground5633]

@@crabbyj *taps table I just know I've heard of something like this before...

[@Psyrecx]

*I love how scumbag criminals think filing a 'malicious prosecution' claim will stop them from getting more charges for the crimes they choose to commit.*

[@DaylightDisinfectant]

It’s never prosecuted either. Waste of time. He’s living in dreamland.

[@elvickRULES]

Not sure why he was fighting anything after he said that. If he just let it go that would mean that he has a better case 🤪

[@testfire3000]

You know his public defender will only defend him, so to file all these frivolous cases he has to either hire a real attorney who probably won't take the case, or do it pro se which means he will screw it all up and it will quickly get dismissed.

[@Anonymous-lq2bs]

*I luv coook*

[@Shylade]

The ol dropped my sandals defense :::

[@user-zb7uh2ob1r]

Abuse is a weird thing. You can't understand it unless you've lived through it. It does seem crazy looking from the outside, but is really hard to get out of once you get into it.

[@snmnmidld6203]

Tf 😂 you can 100% understand abuse if you haven't been through it

[@606Pixels]

​@@snmnmidld6203 I may be wrong but I think they mean when your in a abusive relationship you don't realize how abusive it is, until your out of the relationship

[@Bribosome]

This doesn't seem like abuse.

[@figmentoffairies]

​@@Bribosomehow?

[@priscillaastling8707]

He assumes rights he doesn’t have. He reads the first amendment very widely and outside the clear reading of the amendment.

[@mikemhoon]

They have the internet version of the amendment. Tailored to their specific needs. They don’t acknowledge the rest of the amendment that says they’re wrong!

[@user-do2ev2hr7h]

In general, a lot of people have the problem of thinking that constitutional clauses/rights mean what they think they should mean rather than what the courts have actually held them to mean. That misconception poisons not only legal proceedings, but also politics.

[@ugaladh]

But that is how criminals are punished, by removing or restricting their rights.

[@priscillaastling8707]

@@ugaladh if you abuse a right by using it to break a parole condition or a restraining order, your “right” can be curtailed by the court.

[@priscillaastling8707]

@Kal El if you abuse a “right” by violating a restraining order, the court can restrict it.

[@Trouble-Clef]

Funny he didn't mention calling the uncle with cerebral palsy that he's supposed to be taking care of. You'd think that'd be the first person he called. This judge is being more than fair with him considering he keeps violating the court order. I hope the rest of his court appearances are included. It's an interesting case. Thanks squishy!

[@SuzanneDeniseB]

Exactly what I was thinking.

[@mactalemacta1]

That dudes lawyer didn’t want to talk her out of giving him contempt lol

[@IWantToRideMyBike]

He can’t stop talking. Doesn’t care if anyone is listening or not

[@miichelleerin]

If I was a Public Defender (and knowing these hearings are publically shared) I would NOT have a huge photo of my family on the wall!

[@nollie_ollie8358]

For real!!! There's sick people out there that would go to lengths to harm attorneys for doing their jobs because of the person they are defending.

[@steveswangler6373]

while your point is valid, a public defender is easy to find, and a person so inclined can and will find out what they want. but you are correct, if i am appearing in a zoom hearing in court, i would have absolutely no personal effects viewable on the screen.

[@miichelleerin]

@@steveswangler6373 I wouldn't be so worried about people finding me, but I wouldn't want to make it so easy to know what all my children look like. Gives me the chills. ♡

[@UranusKiller]

This! There's a reason people blur the background and just show their face. Any amount of extra information into the public isn't necessary, and only adds compounding risk factors. Regardless of who you are in the courts hierarchy.

[@INeedlessI]

That public defender is a public defender for a reason. You can't expect too much from these people.

[@dcviper985]

I really like Magistrate Fink. You can really tell that she wants to balance the rights and restrictions placed on the defendants. We have a presumption of innocence, which is not something every country can say.

[@webcucciolo]

At least the magistrate follows that, which is not what I see from 99.9% of people in the US, both in person and on social media. Not to mention that most countries have processes based on facts and professionals, not emotions and the gut decisions of 12 random people

[@crowjones78]

What do you think is provided in front of those 12 individuals, who are carefully selected by both the prosecution and the defense? expert witnesses are called repeatedly in court and the facts are presented by both sides. Most countries have a single arbiter of justice. You’re a complete fool.

[@bluedragonfly8139]

@@webcucciolo lol, tell me you know nothing about how trials work without telling me that.

[@webcucciolo]

@blue dragonfly I know how trials work in the US and in countries in Europe, including Italy, which together with Greece is the cradle of Western Law. Are you telling me that you disagree with me that 99% of the people in the US forget about presumption of innocence, and before trials even start, as soon as someone is arrested (especially in high cases), they have already judged and convicted? Tell me you don't open your eyes on the world around you without telling it

[@gabrielmiller1226]

Lol no you have a presumption of guilt .

[@iamtheomnimonkey]

Typical of an abuse victim. They speak positively about the abuser because they're afraid.

[@Anonymous38572]

You have zero idea about their relationship she could’ve falsely called the cops on him! They’ll take a females word and off you go. Then after the fact she sobers up and realizes she messed up. Bottom line you have zero idea what they’re dynamic is like don’t make up things in your head

[@terrylynn3891]

Oh Donna, you deserve so much more!

[@Teayana]

Civil rights violations? 14th amendment? Somebody ran into a jailhouse lawyer me thinks.

[@josmclove4426]

No doubt!🤣

[@ArnoldSchwarz_enigger]

I was in jail for one day before bonding out and the people in the jail were the dumbest group of people I ever met.

[@Teayana]

@@ArnoldSchwarz_enigger while I in no way think you're the "real" Mike Tyson, you had me cracking up. 🤣Thank you!

[@klmoll]

Exactly!

[@ConsciousExpression]

This man's body has a fool for a pilot. Even if he thinks all his allegations against the state are true, perpsplaining it to the judge and the public defender and the prosecutor is incredibly moronic. Lawyers exist for a reason, people. Even lawyers don't represent themselves.

[@OSGCourtWatch]

nevre heard that one before CE..cracks me up! fool for a pilot...

[@ConsciousExpression]

@@OSGCourtWatch Thanks! :) I think I just invented it but I'm sure I can't be the first. I did however invent the term Perpsplaining in Mike's stream the other day. I have video proof!

[@anthonyrispin9778]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ConsciousExpression]

@@adamrushford You expended a lot of effort to nitpick a joke

[@ConsciousExpression]

@@adamrushford And now you're nitpicking me for pointing out you're nitpicking a joke

[@pipermccool]

I like this magistrate even more after “pardon the expression, *trump* . . . “ 😁

[@maximus11400]

She probably said that because Trump is an a**hole

[@hhealy7199]

Yeah a liberal judge yet everyone complains about the leniency of judges and courts. Can you see why?

[@ameliadavis1979]

Thank you for this video! It was great! You did an exceptional job putting it together! Your work on the court cases are much better than the other channels! I have quit watching most of the others! 💜

[@phoophie]

"Figure out our mental health" Well, that's gonna take some time!!

[@phoophie]

Who the hell is he talking to?? The judge left the hearing.

[@FattyMateo]

Shocked the gf looked all cracked out

[@lululacanuck3824]

Nice teeth, Donna. And illiterate too.

[@user-bs2nt6uf5x]

She has power to block him from jail

[@abbynormal1965]

You are correct. I LIVE for follow-up. This defendant does not have the chops of a Blandino or a McDonald, but it has the potential of a rollicking good ride. Thanks for your hard work and looking forward to more content on this case.

[@MrLou8888]

Squishy putting all that charmers hearings in one video was a great idea.

[@JaneDoe-tr5xy]

Don't push the System as it will come back to get ya!

[@colinmorgan7771]

this guy will take someones life.

[@cbrreezzyy69]

When I picture a typical DV victim in my mind, this woman is what I imagine

[@mikeg3439]

Been around people like him. They do not care what anyone else things, they do not care about the suffering of anyone else, but even worse, "everyone MUST OBEY" no matter how psychotic or self-entitled the thought or urge they have is. They cannot be fixed. They are greedy predators who do not accept that anyone else in the universe has any power over them whatsoever.

[@matthewhall9692]

Try being separated from your fiance and kids who rely and depend on you against your will because you had a non-violent argument with her and then being incarcerated and stripped of your rights over it. Courts have no business micro-managing people's lives that don't want their involvement and are not presenting a threat to public safety or any individual.

[@phoenixrising4573]

@@matthewhall9692 He wasn't stripped of his rights.

[@russiagoeshard]

​@@matthewhall9692imagine being the fiance or ex-fiance that doesn't want him in her life anymore.

[@matthewhall9692]

@@russiagoeshard Did you not watch the video or pay any attention? The point is the fiance is struggling with him being locked up and/or being forced to not be at home with her and the kids and she WANTS him home. That is the main reason for my take on this particular case.

[@nwerd7584]

@@matthewhall9692 maybe next time she wont call the cops then? Because he will hit her again. And even if he got out he was ordered not be around her legally. Ger best bet is to move n and find a man that provides.

[@antonio5389]

He's complaining this was a simple case, but he's continuously making it worse.

[@clarkkent459]

Swearing at the judge and Court and still gets bail. Absolutely Amazing.

[@cherylhuot4436]

This guy has to have the last word, no matter what! Every time. In every instance. No matter what is said. I feel sorry for his attorney. Dealing with people that know everything, are the smartest person on earth, and never shut up.

[@lillones]

I would probably want to share some heated opinions with a state that imprisoned me for a month based on an argument, and a judge who decided i couldnt speak to my fiance because of that imprisonment. Many peoples lives would fall apart if they had to spend even a week in jail. Unfortunately, im not finding many details about this case in particular, so its hard to tell if it was just a verbal argument or more. I did find a bunch of larceny/identity theft charges against him though. So maybe he has a history of violence and was abusing her.

[@YungWha23]

With the volatility he’s shown WHILE IN FRONT OF A JUDGE, he’s going to continue abusing her and probably her children, if he’s in that household. The child protective services in that area should also monitor the home once he’s released given the mother’s willingness to allow someone like that around her children.

[@TheUluxian]

👍💯%

[@csh43166]

Exactly... Schuh is a dangerous person. Especially since he has no self-control nor does he care about the law or court.

[@alvaroq2024]

@@csh43166 Mr Schuh I believe is even a danger to himself at this point, and may not be aware of it. He’s not going down quietly.

[@zeusnjeff]

And notice how he was so calm in front of Judge Simpson. He seems to have a problem with women.

[@UserSomeOne]

But also notice that she still wants to be with him and even defended him despite their history. She did this to the point of asking for a new judge. She is willfully, willingly, and consciously inviting that man into her life- legal restrictions not withstanding.

[@robdangelo5831]

If my girlfriend looked like that I would keep violating the protective order too, I’d never want too go home 🤢🤮

[@Kell4088]

“You’re going to sue us!?! Oh no. We’ve never heard THAT before. Whatever will we do…” 😂🤣😂

[@johns1625]

"I wasn't contacting her maam, I was hiding in the leaves behind her house, looking for the sandals I left... I mean looking for my sandals." 😂

[@suelindsey1372]

Considering she is sending him hand signals and mouthing things, they will be caught quickly together and it will be another old squishy epic video😂😂😂

[@OSGCourtWatch]

i'll b there to catch it !!

[@lyndsayw5843]

I pray that we don't end up watching a murder trial. 😢

[@gregwessels7205]

I simply LOVED when the Judge called him out on it. Not so sneaky after all.

[@piva1358]

@@lyndsayw5843🙏🙏🙏🙏 from your mouth to God's ears.

[@LoveHeatherHeadly]

Right that’s what I don’t understand, it’s both of them , I’m pretty sure she is still talking to him , she should not be allowed to string him on. They are mad at him bc he’s still talking to her , it should be both of them!

[@ssshady08]

That dude can file a lawsuit but can't afford an attorney? What the hell is that all about..

[@fireflyrn]

Jeremy is still violating court orders

[@Keirnoth]

Court needs to order a mental health evaluation on this guy, geez

[@pozzee2809]

This is why in 🇨🇦 the victim isn’t given the choice to drop charges of abuse, because the victims are not capable of making those choices freely, because of the ongoing abuse.

[@zerieth6620]

The US is the same way in criminal court. Victims don't get to drop the charges. The state is the one that brings charges.

[@yomama5645]

Yeah but Canada is free like Soviet Russia was.

[@ktkat1949]

@@yomama5645 Have you always been a moron or did it come on suddenly? Do some research. When the Freedom Institute did studies on which countries had the most personal freedoms Canada was number six. The USA was number twenty-three. Look it up yourself. BTW the Freedom Institute is a right wing organization founded and based in the USA LOL

[@SN00PICUS]

...yeah I'll pass thanks...friggin failed state of Canada

[@AuntieKim]

As soon as Donna started advocating for him my heart dropped. He obviously plays her like a fiddle. What Donna doesn’t understand is that it’s not blown out of proportion because of her, is blown out of proportion because he can’t follow laws and court orders.

[@Suisfonia]

Sadly he's one of those people that thinks that he can say and do whatever he wants, regardless, of what the courts say.

[@trejt]

I think he tries to manipulate her, but the goal of this proceeding wasn’t to lock the man away for life. She just made reasonable restrictions to protect the victim who, if one believes Mr “Shoe”, is vacillating, as a lot of DV victims do.

[@deshawn1801]

Why do y’all always think it’s the man? Why can’t women just take account

[@blender4464]

@@deshawn1801 she is an idiot and is vying for a darwin award. But he has to be a specific kind of man to so aggressively and consistently keep contacting her after being ordered not to. What'd they say, half an hour after one of these orders he was on the phone with her again? He ultimately can and will do what he wants almost unfettered, and with that behavior I guarantee he did abuse her and will continue to. With this she is not helping herself and is allowing it to happen, but that doesn't make it her fault. He is doing the abuse. These are his actions, not hers. That is why it is his fault and not hers.

[@Sleightman3D]

Donna appeard to be a tweeker and that boy is her meal ticket. Many low life dudes do this; get a vulnerable drug addicted woman, become her supplier, then act like he owns her. The addict goes along for the ride as long as she's getting what she wants.

[@mariapagan9348]

Oddly enough, I saw that this man showed more respect for another man who is overseeing his case than the two women… that says a lot about his morals and valuing women.

[@India51A]

Every time, I'm looking after my Uncle, and another Uncle too, they just keep churning out the same old BS.

[@TheUluxian]

Last year in this country, there were over 1500 DV murders that started out at some point just exactly like this. And so annoying listening to him gripe about his "lost rights". Nobody took them from you, Sparky, you gave them away when you violated the rules that YOU AGREED TO. Can't do the time, don't do the crime..

[@OSGCourtWatch]

luv this post...

[@doreendaykin6693]

Thank you for your comment. It reflects the sad and absolute reality of DV & not just in Michigan. Currently this is reflective of the sad state of affairs all of the USA & Canada in our courts. This content while perhaps interesting and entertaining at times also shows the sad part of a somewhat broken system for dealing with DV. Judges are often left walking a VERY THIN tight rope in these situations. Clear laws governing how DV is handled from the police up to the Courts, State & Federal, Province and Country. Laws that are passed by Judicial Judges who are highly educated and have a comprehensive understanding of DV. Also in each district there should be 1 to 4 Judges especially trained who have NO biases to handle DV cases…All DV cases should be referred to them and the resources & support systems for assistance for the victims and perpetrators e at these Judges disposal. Again deep gratitude to The Uluxian & to Squishy Gardner for their respective posts. 🙏💙🙏💗🙏

[@AllHailKingRose]

Unfortunately he has rights bc he has to be convicted. He was innocent during the hearings. Even after convictions people still have rights. I’m not sure how we would remedy deciding who has rights and who doesn’t. They can’t restrict all his calls only calls to the victim. So he was right to put up a fight over that.

[@brentfarvors192]

On the one hand; Yes (He's weird) On the other hand; I haven't heard a shred of evidence he actually assaulted anyone...? The whole point of domestic violence is based on a physical act of violence. Sounds more like a lovers quarrel to me...I know ONE THINGS for sure; I don't want ANY PART of a relationship with a female anymore!!! Especially when I can be hauled off to a CAGE at the very moment we disagree about something...Even more so when the probable cause used consists of "he touched me"; Without any physical injuries being presented...F THAT CHIT!!! Space ghost!

[@rjohnson9543]

Start building prisons now.

[@rasalghul9331]

What always amazes me is how the dumbest guy is the most self-entitled in these cases

[@seanthebaptist6757]

Judge Frushour is absolutely FINE AS HELL

[@hazelpoole1954]

This poor magistrate gets some very ‘difficult and deaf’ defendants.

[@whisperflame427]

Even the assistant attorney doesn't want to talk to him

[@Dannie281]

that outburst was the Real him. this man has been trying hard to show he isn't a angry violent or abusive person. however at the end he absolutely couldn't hold back, because a woman was telling him how it is going to be, and showing power over him. his ego just couldn't Handel it, so he explodes. think about that for a minute, she is a judge, and he explodes at her while in custody... this is a dangerous man.

[@OSGCourtWatch]

i got that vibe too...

[@doribellan]

I don’t agree. I cannot say how things are, as I’m not there and wasn’t there at the initial argument. It is very possible he was just as irate at that initial argument that started this restraining order, sure. The fact that the victim advocates are going against the victim’s wishes and the judge is not considering her wishes at this late point either, is very concerning to me, though. The reason for the orders is to protect the victim. If the victim states to the judge that the restraining orders are no longer needed, the judge should revoke them. Instead, she seems more concerned for her ego and power because she is considering his violations to those orders, more. This leaves no room for removing the government and his restrictions on his freedom if they are not needed. She can easily make orders that test pulling the restraining orders back, but she only cares to extend this case against all parties involved.

[@ariannaeleanor314]

@@doribellan I’m sorry, but you are very uneducated about DV if that’s your position and it’s honestly sad to me how many people in this world *still* can’t look at things as a whole. If I wasn’t currently in the middle of cooking dinner, I’d take the time to break it all down for you, but I can’t right now. All I’ll say is that there are very specific and important reasons as to why the judge is not giving the victim the “right” to dismantle the order.

[@doribellan]

@@ariannaeleanor314 I think we can spare your arrogant break-down. That cynical position of knowing more will get you in trouble. Humility is a virtue. Also, I’m not about to explain my history of domestic violence and restraining orders to you. The very behavior you’re exhibiting is the similar manipulation and gaslighting an aggressor takes. Enjoy dinner and stay in your lane.

[@ariannaeleanor314]

@@doribellan Whoa. You completely misinterpreted my tone, as I was not trying to attack you or come across as aggressive. I certainly wouldn’t give you some arrogant lecture. I meant if I had the time I would break down what I mean in a much more thorough way that gives a better idea of what I’m saying. I apologize if I came across in a negative way towards you, truly. I feel bad it came off like that, but I can see how it could. I really wasn’t suggesting that you haven’t been involved in any kind of DV personally, I was referring to the educational side of the subject as a whole. I would never try to make that kind of assumption on a complete stranger and I would never, ever ask someone to explain or tell me if they’ve been a victim of some kind, that is none of my business what so ever. I 100% respect your privacy. I’m coming from a place of experience, both personal and educational/professional and have many many years of direct contact with victims and also prisoners, so without trying to sound arrogant in any way, I do sincerely have expertise in the matter that most people don’t, that’s all. I hope I’ve cleared up where I was coming from. I should maybe work on my wording or approach. I forget that people can very easily misunderstand through text.

[@eddieromanov]

Mr. Elmen’s face through that whole hearing was the textbook definition of deer in the headlights.