Creality's New Printer: Better Than Bambu?

[@mgwach]

PTFE = Pre-heated Tacos For Everyone

[@KeoPrints]

This is a good one

[@zwerko]

I've cleaned some PTFE tubes from TPU debris that looked way worse than the inside of a taco.

[@ericbogacz6274]

The Question being based as always

[@SnoringVids]

Peepee touch for everyone? I have no chance of ever getting my channel monetized 😂

[@kylek29]

I'm surprised the Bills logo didn't consistently get 96% of the way completed and then fail at the last minute. ;)

[@TheBoardGarage]

Ouch

[@KeoPrints]

Ha smoked!

[@WindedWalruss93]

Oof. If only they had a guy that wore black and white stripes on their team.

[@ericrandall3539]

Too soon?

[@anthonylong5870]

Savage lol

[@sniperoth]

Creality took 2 steps forward just when Bambu took a step backwards

[@beautifulsmall]

As an engineer specing a machine for our wery secret workshop, Bambu was almost purchased until the auth issue, consumables are not an issue, its the purchase price that can cause months of delay , the resin printers come first, £500 printer and £100 a litre engineering fluid. same problem (strong tough accurate ) different solutions. Tullemer vs I3000 , its a horse race and i'm not a gambler. Great video.

[@Kah-Rah-Tay]

My files are all original. There is no way I trust Bambu

[@backtoearth1983]

@@Kah-Rah-TayWhat makes you assume your files are good enough to want to steal

[@adrianharrison5208]

​@backtoearth1983 what makes you think they are not?

[@Kah-Rah-Tay]

@@backtoearth1983 Lame question.

[@backtoearth1983]

@adrianharrison5208 If they were there would be a Gotcha. So many people overvalued their own skill and the potential popularity of a self designed item.

[@monstertrucker35]

I’m glad you covered the part where the box shows the unboxing instructions. I DO wish they made it easier to remove the bottom packaging a little easier. It took 3 people for us to safely remove it. Does Creality think all nerds socialize and have friends over at all times? No. No they don’t. 😂

[@KeoPrints]

Hah know your audience right? How could they

[@TheModShopCO]

I've got over 300 hours on my K2 Plus already with nothing but amazing print quality, and so far, I’m loving it. I was deciding between this and the X1C, but the larger bed size won out, plus, it comes stock with Klipper, which was a big deal for me. I saw a commenter mention their "taco shaped" bed, and what a lot of people don’t realize about bed meshing is that the visualization magnifies surface deviations to make it more clear to the user what's going on. When you're looking at a 350mm x 350mm bed, of course, it’s going to appear exaggerated in the mesh preview. Mine also looks taco shaped, but in reality, the variance from the highest to the lowest point is only 0.5mm which is well within the compensation range for these machines. My first layers come out perfect every time, no tweaking needed. I just slice and print. That said, I’ve seen quite a few K2 Plus horror stories and regrets. While my experience with the K2 has been nothing but positive, I still wouldn’t recommend one right away simply because it’s Creality, and they don’t have the best track record with new releases. If you wait a year, you’ll have a much better chance of avoiding the "Creality Lotto" when buying one.

[@WARPAINTandUnicorns]

@@TheModShopCO yeah even 6 months there should be most of the firmware up dates Creality is doing completed as well. My bed is 1mm off (high in the center low in the corners) but you can adjust that with the bottom screws. I haven’t done it yet because I’ve been printing mostly in the center but I want to see if more reps printing will relax it first. You can use SCREWS_TILT_CALCULATE as well as screws_tilt_adjust in Klipper to figure out how to adjust your bed.

[@martincstee5335]

Just curious have you rooted the K2 Plus?

[@ramsaystrachan3766]

This should be the format for all unboxings! Thorough, entertaining, clipping between a bit of couch talking, and roll of the unboxing /setup! Superb video, subscribed!

[@KeoPrints]

Happy you enjoy it! Thanks for hanging around

[@jaecellu2b]

So the next time you need handles on something like this, Run a few layers of duck tape up each side and end it in a handle above the side. Ta-DA! Handles! Go Bills!

[@shadowlaughers101]

Not a Bambu stan, but, the 2 Things Creality still lacks IMO: - Slicer ease of use. Not sure about this machine in particular, but new creality machines still require tinkering to calibrate filament out of the box, considering their proprietary slicers are terrible. Bambu just wins on that front. I still havent had to calibrate a single filament using my bambu and bambu slicer. - And print quality, the pic of the Pikachus at the end are a good example. You can still see zitting, layer inconsistencies, it just ... looks 3D printed. most of my bambu prints come off so smooth and clean sometimes they dont even look 3D printed. Now the Pikachu prints could be that the filament wasnt tuned properly by the user, but that goes back to my first point. Ignoring the Bambu drama, Bambu still has the upper hand in user experience. "They just work." As someone who like to 3D print, but doesnt enjoy tinkering with 3D printers, that is what still keeps me away from creality. Theyre ALMOST there, but they still just keep pumping out new models as fast as humanly possible and they need to slow down, and make a winner. Not 15 models are are slightly better than the last

[@KeoPrints]

I have to agree here. Creality has come so far. Much further than I would have guessed but they still have room to grow. It’s an encouraging entry into the market given the size and capabilities though! Just waiting for that new Bambu machine to drop

[@gwallamagfedpaintball767]

Can’t wait for Bambu new flag ship and I wanna see who going to take back everything they said I got a list and I’m make sure to check them lol 😂

[@UnCoolDad]

@@gwallamagfedpaintball767it won't be cheap.

[@adrianharrison5208]

Can't ignore that drama

[@shadowlaughers101]

@adrianharrison5208 Yes, u can. I'm not saying the drama doesn't matter, it does. It is possible to separate a machine, from the policies that come with it. I wanted to compare the printers and their ecosystems without bringing in recent drama

[@XTC3D]

I know I am in the minority, I'd love for you to cover Printers with built in WIFI that do not require an app or cloud account to simply send a print directly to your printer on your LAN. Do these new Creality Printers have some sort of LAN only mode?. My first printers, ender 3's I was happy to walk over the USB stick to the printer, then the CR10 Smart Pro falsely offered WIFI which only connected you to Creality App, so by the time you made a model, uploaded to Creality cloud, sliced and then sent to print, it would have been quicker to walk over the USB stick. Only saving grace there was Sonic Pad. I just want a Bambu style Printer (they really changed the game) minus all the fluff and BS that comes with "being connected". Would love to hear your thoughts.

[@KeoPrints]

Sure I get that. From what I’ve seen on this machine, there is no need to sign into WiFi. You can print from the usb stick and never hook the thing up to any cloud service. As far as a LAN mode that allows for monitoring through the app, I am not certain. I would imagine it can be disconnected while still retaining the functionality of the app in a local capacity

[@XTC3D]

@@KeoPrints Thanks, I'm a lazy bugger and walking over a USB stick is so old school. I don't want or need an app or a cloud service, with Bambu in lAN only mode i can send a print from Orca directly over wifi to the printer and even monitor it via Orca with the camera. " No App required" , No Cloud required" .That's all I need. I am not sure of the future of that however with Bambu controversy over terms of service "walled garden becoming a prison". Sonic pad for Creality was a game changer because it gave you the same experience with Creality. No app, no cloud, connect up the Sonic and send a print from Orca directly to the printer. I guess all i wanted to know is does anyone make a printer that has that capability without you having to buy or add on things like sonic, or Big Tree tech pad 7 etc. It's not rocket science and should easy to accomplish.

[@l0ckmanjohn]

I haven't tried that with my k2 yet i just got it yesterday. but you can definitely do that with the k1 max. just add the ip address to orca slicer and it handles sending the print. I believe i heard that it works the same with the k2 except i don't think orca is able to assign which spools to print from, i think it tells it how many colors and maybe even which colors but doesn't know which spool has each, so you have to manually select that on the screen. Single color it should work easily though.

[@XTC3D]

@@l0ckmanjohn Wow thanks bro, appreciate the info and i finally found a youtube video on it for the K1, looks easy. Would love to know if thats the case for the K2 before saying goodbye to another few grand.

[@ApolloMcrib]

Elegoo has something coming out that's gonna slaughter everyone especially in price.

[@jonnycraft0471]

Printing PLA with closed chamber with my P1S is perfectly fine every time.

[@cr4zyg047]

Also - the "blockage" culprit is like the filament sensor inside the hub on the bottom of the CMS (where all the PTFE tubes converge before exiting). The little board with the 4 filament sensors has a fault that can result in presence being detected where there is none. Most commonly observed after a retraction, where the system pulls the roll all the way back - but still thinks its there. Since it still thinks theres filament in, lets say, bay #2 - if wont let you load new filament into that bay. Support replaced mine when it failed after about 10-20 hours

[@UNgineering]

"the box was much smarter than we were" story of my life.

[@jonathanrogers9961]

After my experience with an Ender 3 V2 and Creality't customer support, I will NEVER buy another Creality product.

[@LoriAnneBrown]

I just added an ender 3 v3 plus today to my little print farm of ender 3, 3x cr6se, and a CR-10 V2 Pro. Absolutely loving the Ender 3 V3! I don't need an enclosed printer and there was no way I could get it up the stairs to my print farm and art studio! I want a color hi and ender 5 max too when they are available, but I just might get 2-3 more of the V3 Plus in the meantime!

[@stayreadyto3dprint]

Good job on 70k views man. I love my Creality machines. I adore the k2 and am gonna end up with all k2 machines. It crushes the k1 max. lol mines printed flawlessly minus the random error codes that shouldnt even pop up. The self resolved issues spit out error codes and so far I just hit ok and it’s been fine. But I don’t wanna know about an issue is almost had and resolved. Some ppl get confused and think there’s a real issue. Sometimes there is. But in my case I have literally just hit ok or retry and there was no issue. So it’s like it triggered the code but resolved itself so I just needed to clear the code. Other than that I’m sure a firmware upgrade is coming soon to address this.

[@KeoPrints]

Interesting. I think we encountered something similar now that you mention it but I think we didn’t same thing and just pressed on. It’s been a good machine so far by all accounts

[@robertdascoli949]

21:25 Nice boardgame collection!

[@Walterz930]

Looks like a nice printer I have just gotten into 3d printing and bought two ender 3 pros one was upgraded with cr touch and the 4.2.7 board and a v2 screen running professional so I had to go out and buy the same parts for my second machine

[@JoLOveS]

24:31 BILLS MAFIA, #boycottsuperbowl

[@BLJ_ENGINEERING]

12:03 The X1C also regulates the chamber temp (default is 35*C) so it prints PLA perfectly with the doors closed.. I don't understand why this is a common misconception.

[@oneanother1]

How does tpu print? The k1 had a really hard time with it. Did you notice more purge waste due to the longer nozzle? Or more color bleed?

[@KeoPrints]

We will be putting more materials through it in the coming weeks so I’ll let you know how it goes as we test more

[@000elemental000]

@@oneanother1 I've only done petg, asa, Asa-cf, and every flavor of pla. All were ok ish.. Except for all the visual artifacts

[@MainframeDaydreams]

@@oneanother1 it prints TPU 85 and 95 ok (from the spool on the side, not the CFS) Only done small parts with them but it gives a similar result to my Bambu X1 Carbon. There’s a bit more poop from it because of the longer nozzle, but not that much more that I’m concerned.

[@ThePugSmuggler]

I was deadset on ordering a Bambulabs X1C this week but now my youtube feed is filling up with all the concerns about the security update and future gate keeping with Bambulabs. I'm on the search for other options and in your opinion what is the best enclosed 3d printer for printing small detailed parts in tougher filaments? I really need something good out of the box that doesn't require a ton of tinkering to get working well. Any input is greatly appreciated!

[@KeoPrints]

I hear you. The Qidi plus 4 is a great option for printing with high performance materials if you are trying to stay away from Bambu stuff. That strikes a great balance between performance, build volume, speed, and price in my opinion. Check out our video on that one if you would like but I’m super happy with the one we have

[@brendanlenane2685]

there should be an option on the control screen that u press to put the tool head front center automatically for maintenance

[@l0ckmanjohn]

I think i will be glad i got mine. It just finally came in yesterday after waiting nearly a month. Mine didn't have any broken hinges or feet like I've seen several people mention (though those are easy fixes and Creality seems to be good about sending replacements) I printed a multi color benchy and it was perfect, I've had about half a dozen 3d printers and this was the first to not need any tuning to get a perfect benchy. then i decided to try petg i printed a poop chute then a cover for the chute, both came out perfect. Next i tried to print a battery dispenser. I don't know what happened, but while printing the first or second layer i got a filament jam. filament jams aren't a huge deal normally but with the cfs that sits on top of the machine it is very difficult to get to the extruder. I had to cut the filament in the cfs then remove that bottom section on the cfs in order to get the filament unstuck enough to remove any Bowden tubes then had to go down the line removing each Bowden tube along the way in order to get the Boden tube removed from the extruder. I finally got those done and unplugged the cfs so i could move it out of the way to open the top of the machine. Then with the hotend heated to 250c i had to use a good amount of force to pull the filament free so i could remove the extruder. i finally get that done and everything put back together, then i get a message saying the cutter isn't installed. I had to give up for the night. hopefully when i get home and have a chance to work on it everything will be ok. If i didn't have many years of 3d printer experience i probably would've given up. but i love this machine and the prints it did do were great, and the petg lifted off the bed without any effort once it cooled. I'm very impressed and annoyed with this machine, but i think I'll love it anyways once it's running again.

[@KeoPrints]

Thanks for sharing. These are the things that are impossible to test for in an initial review so you taking the time to tell us more is huge

[@l0ckmanjohn]

After I got home I took the extrude off to figure out where the cutter was and it turned out there was still a piece of filament stuck in the extruder. After I took that out and put the blade back everything is working great again.

[@JasonNeri]

Print rims for your cardboard spools. Also this probably explains why they didn't do a roller on top. Various heights, so it would need to be also spring loaded, and just more expensive.

[@reyalPRON]

20:30 see that scrolling causing MASSIVE lag on the screen. it is clear that the processor controlling the screen is overloaded to the max.

[@caseypries7559]

I designed and printed a riser for my x1c with vents on each side soon after I got it. I don't know if that solved a problem I wasn't aware of but I just don't have issues printing PLA with the door closed. I do let the exhaust fan do it's thing. If it's exhausting air from the inside it's pulling cool air in somewhere. I with say Bambu seems to have good tech support that responds fairly quickly. In regards to my Creality Raptor X, tech support is slow, clearly doesn't speak decent English and offers no real support.

[@jackykoning]

My experience with brittle filament is that it stops being brittle when you remove the moisture. PLA, ABS same thing they snap easily until you dry it. Someone gave me 6 year old PLA and it snapped with every movement. I simply put it in the oven then into a drybox and I can bend it fairly well now. Same thing happened with ABS. Very old ABS and it was really brittle. I didn't even put it in the oven I just put it in a bag with a large amount of desiccant and the problem got fixed.

[@ShellSiUK]

Not pretending to be a power user but got my K2 just before Christmas and the print quality is brilliant. I printed the obligatory Deadpool mask and it's amazing. Admittedly Creality Print is appalling and the part fan became disconnected ruining the nozzle but it's so good I don't really mind! Great video, thanks

[@KeoPrints]

Thanks for sharing and spending the time to watch!

[@ThatoneNB12]

12:40 the Qidi Q1 pro has the same feature.

[@mrfunkington]

"Creality is setting the standard again" well - if that's the case then how come EVERY video is a comparison to Bambu? And EVERY video has these nit-pickynlitrle things that have to be adjusted on the Creality printers to get them to perform like a Bambu printer does OUT OF THE BOX? Sorry - I don't have time to be a CAD modeler, a printing company AND a printer tuning expert - I don't have to tune or adjust my laser printer or my ink jet printer - I just bought it, full it with consumables and press the print button. That's what I want from a $1000 3d printer. So stop already with how Creality is SO great, because it's good, and I have a Creality printer and it does print good, but it's slow, it requires a shit ton of tinkering before it got to printing good and my Bambu P1S was BETTER right out of the box.

[@link6032]

Exactly !, no matter what people say about Bambu their printers will always actually function the best as errrrr Printers !!. All this noise about this security change has somehow made Bambu printers bad and this creality garbage good at actually printing is pure comedy !😂. All these people saying they will sell their Bambu printers, great go ahead, get one of these 😅, good luck, you'll need it

[@KeoPrints]

I have to say; I’m not getting rid of my Bambu machines. They still hold the title for printers that are simple to use while being fast and quality and so on. That said, the doomers that are selling their machines would be well served with this as an alternative. It’s a compromise and certainly not a 1:1 replacement but I am impressed. Creality did well compared to the regular garbage they push

[@MainframeDaydreams]

My K2 plus required no tinkering. I unpacked it, plugged everything in and started a 5 hour PLA print that completed with no issues, and quality comparable to my Bambu X1 Carbon. I then printed with ABS another 4 hour print with no adhesion issues or warping. Have got about 150 hours of printing on it and haven’t had to tinker at all, just shove some filament in the CFS and send a print to it.

[@m3chanist]

You don't own a K2 so stop blowing smoke out of yer arse.

[@Solo-Anarchist]

@KeoPrints Showing off that rough surface from a creality printer, using creality filament and filament profiles, on a creality tuned model, and that you just need to tune the flow rate yourself, and calling it splitting hairs, because this $1500 machine is as good , if not better than an $800 P1S, is actually a ridiculous statement. That looks to be about the same as the worst surface my p1S has put out in a year and a half. Strange... It's almost as if an affiliate link has incentivised you to say the printer performs better than it actually does, and better than a competing printer for half the price, because that competing company doesn't give you any $ if your viewers buy a Bambu after watching this.

[@IvanRosaT]

those filament hyper PLA it came in mine too, and I saw another guy same thing they are 4 rolls

[@chrislambe400]

Please do some functional prints and measure them and XY skew and show us the ABL mesh.

[@mpcbsar]

Ate the stock profiles dialed in? Is it "plug and print"?

[@KeoPrints]

From what Paul has printed on there so far, yes it does seem to be just as plug and play as you would expect

[@cdnbrit]

in regards to chamber heat, Print a riser. Heat rises, door remains closed.

[@jackie87430]

Wow that looks impressive. I really want to try one out................😬 lol

[@WyomingRider]

Great video! Looks like a good machine so far!

[@arthurtorricer4544]

I am leaning into buying this now..After not knowing whats really going to happen with Bambu Lab.. Ill need a back up printer for my A1 mini , A1 and X1C if they end up getting locked up.

[@KeoPrints]

It’s not a bad option. It’s not a Bambu machine but at the same time, if that’s what you’re going for, it’s a great option

[@NunYaBeezWax80]

i printed inserts for my Bambu labs AMS so that the spools can have more weight

[@3DATHENS-qi1tu]

the photo on 25:30 is a kobra 3 not a ender v3 so you have issues 😉

[@KeoPrints]

Aha you win! Sneaky switcharoo. I didn’t have a picture of his E3V3 but it did something similar lol. Apologies for the premeditated misdirection

[@monetary_episode494]

I have been tricked!

[@3DATHENS-qi1tu]

@@KeoPrints 😝

[@takeaflightfpv8006]

nice video! good production on how it was edited, very nice.

[@KeoPrints]

I appreciate you hanging around!

[@ric8868]

Regarding the chamber temperature, and venting out, on my Voron Trident I used the back fan and printed an adapter for a flexible hose (like those in vacuum cleaners) and put the exit out the window when I am printing. I run the fan at 100% for PLA, and slowly when printing ABS or ASA. Negative pressure means no smells in the room, and when the print finishes, kipper runs the fan at 100% for 5 minutes. I really don’t understand why this is not a feature on all enclosed printers.

[@MainframeDaydreams]

@@ric8868 Those were my first prints on my K2 as I’m planning to print ABS and PETG quite a lot. It’s a shame that the printer chassis doesn’t have a standard hose fitting, but a printed one stuck on with magnets and VHB tape seems to work ok.

[@ric8868]

It is indeed difficult to understand. I started building the exhaust for mine when I made my entire apartment stink when I was printing the parts to mount the enclosure on the Trident. I am planning a more powerful exhaust using a 12cm fan from a server on the exit of the tube. This way the noise stays outside and get better cooling for PLA, while the noctua is silently keeping a slight negative pressure in the enclosure.

[@metalor696]

I like how your shirt says "boise". Mmm boise 😍

[@PatriotPaulUSA]

If U mount the Filament Buffer to the back of the CFS (Yes it has mounting holes) Then U can set the CFS on the side of the machine instead of the top. I think Creality forgot to put that in the manual.

[@KeoPrints]

Interesting. Good to know!

[@andrewscotti1136]

unboxing the k1 max i had to one hand the bag the printer was in and the other holding the box down while i pulled the bag out. seeing that box design on the k2 just tells you they are investing in design all around aside from their slicer. been looking at a lot of printers and i think this one is my next purchase.

[@monetary_episode494]

They just need to use orca slicer, and throw their profiles on there. Orca Slicer takes the best of Prusa's features and Bambu's workflow and merges them to make a great (probably the best) slicer. I wish the bigger companies would realize that.

[@andrewscotti1136]

@monetary_episode494 yea i like orca slicer, i use orca and bambu even tho i dont own a bambu printer. Crealitys slicer is hot garbage

[@PrimalNaCl]

I do PLA on my X1C with the door closed. I've never had an issue.

[@joelrowe9731]

Don't even run cardboard spools, it's not worth the headache because they still twist and bind. Spend that time instead respooling onto a creality spool, it's worth it. I'm loving my K2, so much so that I've got another on the way.

[@Furtuim]

Thanks for the review (before i finish watching). I was looking at the new k series after a year with my k1 and its issues. Every review like this is helpful!

[@KeoPrints]

Happy to have you hanging around friend! I hope the K1 gets its act together for you

[@BairdBanko]

After what happened with Bambu's position on wanting to lock down on the user's freedoms - I will never give Bambu money every again. We need to fight the drive turing the 3d printer industry closer to 2d printers.

[@kingphiltheill]

I hope someone makes tempered glass doors as a replacement part. Because I ordered as K2 and it looks like I'd need them. 😅

[@rjw8316]

Why use cardboard spools. Come on guys it's not that hard or time consuming to install the filament on a plastic spool and avoid the cardboard dust. Dont blame the pressure tabs, or whatever you call them, you will get cardboard dust anyway.

[@jackflack66]

Always good to see competition. However, I’m gonna be a wait-and-see on this model. Originally bought a V2 and it was great so I upgraded to an S1 with the F4 chip and all I got was problems. I found myself tinkering constantly with the more expensive model. There’s no way in heck I’m gonna tinker/mod a $1,500. I would just buy a handful of P1Ss. I love to have one at 350 Cubed, but I will see in about a year how they hold up.

[@oneandy2]

My AD5M has never had an issue printing PLA with the door closed. I've been through 15 spools and never an issue with that. But it does have chamber exhaust/filter fans.

[@cylonmode]

Yesssss.... Been waiting for this one, making my purchase decision based off this video. I'm going to wait a little longer for the follow up video loool.

[@maclo5813]

Making a terrible choice

[@KeoPrints]

I would wait as well just to be certain. But so far Paul has a few hundred hours on it and it’s gone fairly well by the sounds of it

[@LatsMajik]

Let me guess, he should by a bambu? 😂 ​@maclo5813

[@ColonelC61]

great insight, definitely going to creality from bambu after this week. This looks to me like the next logical step from the x1 series. also.... me see turbo! What for turbo?!

[@KeoPrints]

Ahh yes a leftover turbo from an abandoned project

[@bigdougscommentary5719]

I print PLA with the door closed with EVERY print so far. What am I missing?

[@KeoPrints]

If you’re not having issues with it then don’t ask. Don’t investigate. Don’t wonder. Just enjoy the life you’ve been lucky enough to live

[@Sheer_Will]

Same, i've never understood why others complain about it or why my X1C says to open it. I've done tons of 5-6hr prints and one 23hr print and have never had an issue. Bambu Lord, I'd like to thank thee for your protection and hope to always have a sink nearby if my hands should touch those of a Creality owner.

[@l0ckmanjohn]

in the k1 Max it says door should be open if ambient temperature is above 30c so if your room is less than 86f it shouldn't have to be open.

[@drdentz]

@@KeoPrints Golden rule of 3D printing. If it works, don't touch it and enjoy that temporary phase.

[@bigun89]

Lesson learned - don't use cardboard in an AMS/CFS, transfer it to a plastic spool

[@vsahankrat7176]

I use ESun PLA+ Cardboard Spools and i can tell you that they are no problems. ESun puts a coating on the outer Edge of the Spool so it doesnt get damaged.

[@KeoPrints]

Yes a coated lip or a plastic adapter ring is probably a non negotiable

[@shuflie]

@@KeoPrints You could probably 3Dprint something like that.

[@Denis_v1.0_beta]

@@shuflie There are spool adapters available to print for most brand's cardboard spools. As @KeoPrints writes, it's a non-negotiable IMO. Certainly cheaper and more efficient than transferring to a plastic spool.

[@JamesDBuzzard]

12:35 I think the flashforge ad5 pro has the same feature

[@MatějŠvenda]

Core one has the active enclousure cooling system.

[@KeoPrints]

Good. Every printer should have that

[@monkeywrench1951]

Can you talk about the adaptive layer height with the CMS issue and how have they improved the creality ios app. These are the two things that have kept me from buying the K2.

[@blairm7731]

To remove the faceplate, all you have to do is lift up slightly on the cable chain that is above the toolhead. The faceplate can be removed easily without moving the toolhead to the front of the machine. 🙂

[@WindedWalruss93]

24:15 cheese dog snacks

[@LTX_Designs]

Maybe it’s just mine being the first version, my ams is the worst part of owning my bambu printer. It has to be taken apart so often that I don’t even put the screws back in anymore. Definitely interested in the k2 plus with cfs, would like to see a follow up after many hours of use

[@Emth_]

how strict is that "no tpu" warning in the CFS? do you know what hardness it start to struggle at? the one reason i want a multi material unity instead of just a multi-color thing that some others make is that i want the material compatabilities, or incompatabilities to make my life easier

[@KeoPrints]

A multicolor unit that can handle proper flexibles would be excellent

[@Notsodirt]

sweet, this will be a watch and see.

[@sophistical]

Aside from the obvious (price and build volume) between the Qidi Plus 4 and the K2; which seems to “better”? (Speed, reliability, ease of use etc?)

[@KeoPrints]

So from what I can gather, the quality is comparable. The Creality I believe will be faster by default but only just. As for quality, I would say they are also fairly neck and neck. The Creality obviously has more features but both feel the same amount of cheap/premium in their respective areas

[@elijahf111]

I'm waiting for the regular sized k2 to come out, 350³ is massive and expensive lol.

[@colinfielder6695]

What slicer was used for the models not from creality?

[@KeoPrints]

I believe Paul uses Creality Slicer

[@mandibarcena6667]

Patiently waiting for your Qidi 4 Plus with multi-color unit review. That can be my next printer.

[@KeoPrints]

I can’t wait for the multi color Qidi Box. I talked to them to see what kind of timeline we could expect but no luck so far

[@mandibarcena6667]

@ It says Q1 of 2025. So, it should be coming out soon. I wonder if it will fit the other Qidi's?

[@jenstori5746]

What do you recommend for a great beginner printer?

[@KeoPrints]

I would recommend the Bambu A1 mini for a beginner. Just beware of the company’s scummy anti-consumer practices. If that’s something that doesn’t worry you, then it is a great platform. Otherwise, I don’t have any personal experience with any printers that are less than $500 that offer the same or similar approachability. The Qidi plus 4 is great and boasts an excellent value and the creality K2 has been excellent as well. Hopefully that helps a little

[@GETS3DPrinting]

I just ordered my 2nd k2 plus. replacing bambu with them. i needed the bigger bed

[@Dyltone]

Literally never had PLA heat issue printing with my door closed on my X1C. In fact, I've never printed with my door or lid open.

[@betterl8thannvr]

Same, but he has to find stuff to nitpick

[@LatsMajik]

I was waiting for bambus new offer but after the update im looking at this one or the plus4 for my base printers moving forward.

[@KeoPrints]

Both are decent options. I’m still on the Bambu train even though they’re a scummy company. As long as the machines are good and there isn’t a subscription, I’ll keep using them

[@christianlainesse4281]

Without an ams/cfs, it's about twice the price of a P1S, but 500USD cheaper than a single-tool unenclosed Prusa XL if you're just looking at a comparable build volume... with the next Bambu expected to be priced above the X1C, it will be interesting to see if it offers anything beyond what this K2 brought to the table.

[@KeoPrints]

Agreed. It’ll be interesting to see what they come up with. If they ever actually release it…

[@christianlainesse4281]

@@KeoPrints I semi-expected a leak before the Chinese New Year, but I guess we'll have to wait a bit longer. Hopefully they dont postpone further than the announced Q1 (end of March).

[@LatsMajik]

​@KeoPrints i think they need to do some soul searching and realize how much of the market just tanked beneath them (bambu) i bet they're nervous now about how many units they will sell since the nonsense of the past week. We will see

[@ericrandall3539]

What good is a Bambu that you have to walk an SD (*shudder*) card to prevent it from updating and keep using OrcaSlicer? Cheaper, yet worthless...

[@christianlainesse4281]

@@ericrandall3539 I don't think the dust has fully settled yet on that issue. Also, in LAN mode you can still use OrcaSlicer.

[@reasonablebeing5392]

did not read through all 444 comments but add a filament dust filter before the PTFE?

[@KeoPrints]

That would be good

[@betterl8thannvr]

Why can we not move away from the poop chute on the back of the machine? And now with the spool holder that sticks out the side that's 3 sides of the printer I can't have against a wall.

[@KeoPrints]

This is a great point

[@MattWeber]

12:38 "Why is no one else doing this". Mainly because its patent infringement of Stratasys chamber fan temp control and they have went after basically everyone else that has put it in their machines. Also Creality has already gave up on their RFID system, as well as were using a proprietary RFID code anyhow so unless someone creates a firmware for it, its about a useless sensor currently AFAIK.

[@KeoPrints]

And I have learned since posting that apparently Qidi has a few machines that do the same temp control strategy

[@ekstrapolatoraproksymujacy412]

I need a big printer that can do perfect first layers without any human intervention, will this do?

[@user9267]

It seems like it, from the video. What else do you want to know that's not in the video?

[@ekstrapolatoraproksymujacy412]

@@user9267 there is nothing about first layers in the video

[@KeoPrints]

From what testing and printing we have done so far, this machine calibrates fairly well. No first layer issues to report

[@Bunyip_Studios]

I so want to get this printer Combo

[@adammoniker6441]

Also the chamber temperature value in the app and creality print don't actually manipulate the temperature, it sets the exhaust fan value, the only way to set your internal chamber heater is through the fluidd interface.

[@thoth80]

Ahhhhh for us 3d printer junkies .... new printer smell better than new car smell.

[@xoniq-vr]

You know what a scary printer is? Bam-BOO!

[@Impuritan1]

Buuuuuuu this man!!!

[@creyen]

I wonder how will it compare to the Kobra S1, very excited as I am now dropping bambu due to their anticonsumer bs

[@KeoPrints]

I am very tempted to get my hands on that S1…

[@creyen]

@@KeoPrints I put my preorder already, their implementation of AMS with an actual filament dryer inside is just how it was supposed to be since the beginning, price point is on point, and their previous Kobra offerings apparently had quality prints enough to compete with the A1 from Bambu.

[@10fantic]

Here after no longer wanting a bambu

[@FalconRebels]

Gotta admit, my K1 Max is amazing…! I feel so satisfied with my decision.

[@KeoPrints]

That is excellent to hear. I have not heard great things about that machine so it is nice to hear that someone is having a good experience with it

[@rsxteufel]

I always prefer to have option when buying thing. I have x1c and I love it and I have no problem getting reality too as long as it work.

[@000elemental000]

Sadly mine is going back to microcenter today. I guess I could get an exchange, but after it came with the heater wires not plugged in, loose nozzle, loose hot end, loose linear rail.. And a bed shaped like 2 tacos (even after manual leveling). I'm going to say, it's not ready.

[@KeoPrints]

Yikes. That all sounds terrible. What a lemon. I’m only just beginning to trust Creality again and that would turn me right off to them

[@1blktalon]

Thank you for this info.

[@1blktalon]

I think this is the way to go instead of ordering online. Being able to return to Micro Center is a plus.

[@odeball22]

Look no one trusts any of them any more creality is just a better choice right now. Sorry

[@000elemental000]

@@odeball22 I was so hopeful.. I may try another

[@hedleypepper1838]

Love your presentation dude. Good job 😊

[@KeoPrints]

Appreciate you hanging around friend!

[@GrumpyGramps3D]

Would love to have a printer like this. Thank you Creality

[@SamDunham]

Pro tip for opening things like this... Turn upside down, slice tape and fold back flaps, flip back over, slide box up and off. Done.

[@WindedWalruss93]

I WILL BE LOOKING INTO THIS MACHINE AND GETTING RID OF ALL MY BAMBU PRINTERS. BAMBU ARE LIARS!

[@Dragonited]

The construction of the box with the white plastic toggles at the bottom allowing the box to be sliding up have existed on bigger TV screens for some time now. Which all bigger equipment that is a bit heavier had those as a standard they are really nifty.

[@DouweEgbert]

had a ot of Creality printers in past , last one was the K1 ..it was terrible , switched to Bambu P1s with AMS and loved it from day 1 , 6 months of printing without any issues ... lets see in a few months if this new creality printer is as good , im in the market for a bigger printer as thr 256 by 256 bambu plates

[@KeoPrints]

Agreed. If this lasts long term then this is an excellent option for those looking past Bambu

[@citabria08]

They need to build the filament management system WITH a dryer. Shut down the market for filament drying units. They're so cheap now it would be soooooo worth the extra money to get it all in one package!

[@neoc03]

Really happy to see this. I have refused to buy Bambu since they are closed source and now with their recent BS I will never buy from them.

[@joseguerra14]

Shit! I wasn’t so lucky my glass door was off it’s hinges

[@top.job5366]

the x1 does chamber temp control with the fan as well, what are talking about?

[@theelectricmonk3909]

So.... Qidi Plus 4, or Creality K2? I'm coming from an Ender 3v2 (and a v1, and a Geeeeeeeetech POS that never worked), so either will be a huge upgrade... but which is the *best* upgrade?

[@KeoPrints]

Hmm that’s tough. I still like Bambu a lot even though they as a company are dumb. That said, if you’re not trying to spend the 1500 or if you don’t need multicolor right now, the Qidi is such a good value. Otherwise, the Creality is a great option from what little I’ve seen of it so far. I feel like you’re well served either way but if the upcoming Qidi multicolor box is any good then it’s gonna be difficult to beat that value

[@jpmagruder]

Would you recommend getting the X1C combo or the K2 Max Combo as a first printer?

[@bonekrusher6113]

K2 combo

[@KeoPrints]

I’m still a Bambu fanboy so I will always recommend Bambu first. But for those trying to get away from the Bambu ecosystem, the K2 is an excellent option

[@merrillalbury8214]

Can i use Prusa Slicer with this?

[@KeoPrints]

I am not certain. I know Orca Slicer has profiles available