Create the Perfect Storage Solution with 3D Printing!

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Clough42

Clough42

Күн бұрын

Today we're making 3D-printed hardware organizers. My hardware storage has been a real mess, and it's finally time to deal with it. I picked up a set of Durham small parts storage boxes, and today we'll design and 3D print a set of variable-sized tight-packing plastic boxes to organize hardware into them.
These are the boxes and drawers I purchased:
24-Compartment Small Box: www.grainger.com/product/4HY22
6-Drawer Cabinet for Small Boxes: www.grainger.com/product/1XHL7
Tools used in this video:
Shars Economy Gage Block Set (Amazon*): amzn.to/3xP6FDz
Starrett 5m Metric Tape Measure (Amazon*): amzn.to/3XSvLvS
Starrett 6" Hook Rule Machinist Scale (Amazon*): amzn.to/37RUxVS
Excelta Electrician's Scissors (Amazon*): amzn.to/3m7eCBh
Dymo Rhino 4200 Label Maker (Amazon*): amzn.to/34LRkDU
3Dconnexion SpaceMouse Compact 3D Mouse (Amazon*): amzn.to/2TSJ2q9
Raw Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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00:00 Intro
00:48 Durham Boxes
02:43 The problem with the stock dividers
07:50 Measuring for custom boxes
12:02 Modeling the boxes in Fusion 360
19:48 3D printing
20:13 Test fitting the custom boxes
21:34 Demonstrating the flexibility
25:09 Tour of all of my storage boxes
33:30 Conclusion

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@Phiz787
@Phiz787 Жыл бұрын
You are the "getting started is the hardest part" guy I love to watch. Adam Savage is the "explode into each project, and figure it out later" guy I love to watch
@evo-labs
@evo-labs Жыл бұрын
At 16:54 - change the Extent type to 'All' for the extrude and you don't have to worry about how wide the box is :)
@ciano5475
@ciano5475 Жыл бұрын
Well... actually he know how wide the box is, he has a formula to define it.
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich Жыл бұрын
Gridfinity is a similar modular storage system. It's based on a 42mm square and 7mm height units But you can create custom boxes with any dimension with the Gridfinity Rebuilt OpenSCAD model that can be found on Printables. I've begun using solely this method for basic boxes but with a 21mm grid size on the bottom of boxes and a 42mm base plate grid size. With the 42mm base I can use community generated models. Then the boxes can be moved in half increments, or I can build smaller half boxes.
@timcook3539
@timcook3539 Жыл бұрын
Yes i was wondering if gridfinity would be mentioned
@criggie
@criggie Жыл бұрын
@@derschwartzadder 42 is the meaning of life :)
@diepurpledino
@diepurpledino Жыл бұрын
@@derschwartzadder Not sure Zack's reason but it Gridfinity is exactly the size of a NEMA 17 stepper motor... coincidence?
@insignio1
@insignio1 Жыл бұрын
And Gridfinity again was 'inspired' by a similar box system by Alexandre Chappel
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich Жыл бұрын
@@insignio1 unfortunately his never really took off
@frijoli9579
@frijoli9579 Жыл бұрын
Great job! I did a similar thing with the Harbor Freight boxes. I even included tools. My ferrules and my ferrule crimper are in the same tray. One thing I learned to do if I mixed screw lengths is to not put similar lengths in the compartments. Mix 10 and 30, mix 20 and 40. That way you can see what they are and grab the right one. Don't mix 10 and 12.etc.
@crabmansteve6844
@crabmansteve6844 Жыл бұрын
I learned the screw thing the hard way. Could have pulled my own hair out due to my own ineptitude.
@Ed70Nova427
@Ed70Nova427 Жыл бұрын
Whooa. I'm going to try that.
@richardf3327
@richardf3327 Жыл бұрын
Separating by colour works well too - brass screws with steel screws or washers
@JCWren
@JCWren 8 ай бұрын
Have you run into the issue where HF changed the style of the boxes and old trays and new trays are not interchangeable? They messed with the feet on the trays and the bottom of the box. Also, whatever complete IDIOT at HF decided that the labels should use military class adhesive and then stick them to the box rather than the shrink wrap should have a 10th level of hell created just for them.
@hotel-california
@hotel-california Жыл бұрын
as a fellow software engineer.... yeah absolutely feel you on the "what happens next if we go with this design" thing wish my bosses sometimes had this same anxiety bc the answer is usually "we will end up with technical debt"
@vincei4252
@vincei4252 Жыл бұрын
You need to work where I do. The main mode of operation IS creating technical debt. The last team I left has a backlog of 6+ years of problems that could have been 100% avoided if it had a competent manager.
@hotel-california
@hotel-california Жыл бұрын
@@vincei4252 lol, no thanks. only reason my current shop doesn't have worse technical debt (yet) is because it's a startup and we haven't had the chance to really accumulate it yet
@vincei4252
@vincei4252 Жыл бұрын
@hotel I hear you. My place makes so much money it can afford to have hordes of worthless managers and dead end processes.
@evo-labs
@evo-labs Жыл бұрын
Yeah but it's not Agile 😆
@OblivionOth
@OblivionOth Жыл бұрын
@@evo-labs we abandoned sprints and moved to kanbans and haven't looked back senses.
@seabeepirate
@seabeepirate Жыл бұрын
The entire workshop is a living system that will change. Modularity gives you the ability to rewrite the code of your space. I like it.
@patrickcallahan2210
@patrickcallahan2210 Жыл бұрын
Gridfinity might be something to look into :)
@Sam_596
@Sam_596 Жыл бұрын
I have a small apartment, and I desperately need this. I don't even have a machine shop, I just have a bunch of junk.
@MarcelRobitaille
@MarcelRobitaille Жыл бұрын
Alexander chappell made a cool system like this. His was so tight that he could flip the box upside down and shake it. Not sure if that would work here if every tray had that notch. Small enough parts might get through. I also really like his design because he made his own boxes and colour-coded the 3d printed handles and such.
@heriberthuber54
@heriberthuber54 Жыл бұрын
You like modular, printable storage? Take a look at the gridfinity system.
@MarcelRobitaille
@MarcelRobitaille Жыл бұрын
@@heriberthuber54 I know it, but I saw it was already mentioned in the comments and I think Alexander's is better
@BenjaminVaterlaus
@BenjaminVaterlaus Жыл бұрын
@@MarcelRobitaille Chappell's is the OG. But built for his specific wooden box he designed. It's also only available for sale from his website. Voidstar Labs' Gridfinity is open source so anyone can use and modify for free and has a huge ecosystem of boxes already designed from simple boxes to ones with labels to specific, custom-use scenarios (IE one for calipers, one for AAA batteries, etc.). I enjoy Clough's intent here, but after watching Chappell and Voidstar both do this, I'm not interested in another person reinventing the wheel.
@MarcelRobitaille
@MarcelRobitaille Жыл бұрын
@@BenjaminVaterlaus Yes, Chappell's is specific and the files are paid, but Clough was always going to redesign it, so not a problem. I just thought Chappell's would be a good inspiration because the shelf/box things are similar.
@deathnightANIMATED
@deathnightANIMATED Жыл бұрын
Chappelle's design is really a scam, paid its expensive for what it is, only designed for his drawers. Won't release steps only stl, so you can't really tweak it for your own drawers.
@augie.7
@augie.7 Жыл бұрын
When I go to your channel and see a video I am taken back by the amount of time for a given video. However, once I watch it I really appreciate you taking the time to explain what you are doing, why you are doing it, and the importance of your decisions. Thanks for putting out so much quality content. I always learn something.
@bertlagerstedt4484
@bertlagerstedt4484 Жыл бұрын
I am doing a similar project, with about 500 boxes printed so far. I am printing in PETG. I included a label flange, by mildly angling the top front face of my boxes back 30° to create a surface for a 1/2" label. This is enough to make a handle of sorts - easy to hook the box with a finger behind the flange. The mild angle means I loose about a 1/4" in the top front of the opening, but has not been a real issue.The label is always visible, even when the bin is full. I use a 1mm CHT nozzle, combined with vase mode and 0.5mm layer height. Using vase mode means I don't have to hollow out the model, and I can choose the wall thickness and bottom layer count (usually 2) during slicing. I use 1mm for small bins, 1.2mm for mid-size, and 1.5mm for 8" long boxes. I used CNC Kitchens method of determining flow rate, so I set the print speed to match the wall thickness. The 1mm nozzle is great at all 3 thicknesses. Vase mode makes it print very fast, and very clean. There are a couple places that make stainless steel belt systems - for Ender 3 and others - that would make it possible to batch print. It prints one, scrolls forward, and prints the next. They eventually fall off the end into your bin. The stainless allows you to maintain your heated bed. I did not get one yet, but I want one.
@Walkera22e
@Walkera22e Жыл бұрын
Great video James. I can relate 100% with the anxiety part. I've been doing work around the house for some time now and I constantly end up trying to think several steps ahead, especially when it comes to digging for drainage, electrical or what it might be and that can sometimes halt the work for months until I finally come to a decision/plan I think I can live with. It's frustrating because things tend to take forever to finish and too often they don't get finished at all and sometimes the project doesn't even get started because I can't decide how to do it.
@tonyurquhart8278
@tonyurquhart8278 Жыл бұрын
Thanks James. I chuckled all the way through. Its like you are inside my head! I too find anxiety over organising things in my workshop because it might not be the best long term way to do it. Thanks for being real & thanks for showing us how you addressed your challenge. Loved it!
@jaredshaffer3901
@jaredshaffer3901 Жыл бұрын
I have previously printed a TON of little boxes almost identical to these to organize drawers throughout the house and garage. I love that they are removable and can be made to fit items exactly. I will definitely be learning to use some of the methods you utilize in Fusion in the future.
@garysgarage101
@garysgarage101 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic. I just started doing the same thing based on Schaller Corp parts bins I ordered a while back. 3D printing as well as Fusion 360 are still new to me. The parametric feature is really what makes this practical. Love your channel. Cheers from Vancouver.
@NicksStuff
@NicksStuff 11 ай бұрын
Oh, boy, do I understand your analysis paralysis and the fear of the future consequences of your present choices!
@Ed70Nova427
@Ed70Nova427 Жыл бұрын
MAN! You hit the nail on the head talking about anxiety and organizing and procrastination! This way of doing it is the cure! I have about forty of those draw type cabinet systems I have collected over the years and they are beautiful when I first organize them and after a while I end up searching multiple draws and knowing I have what I'm looking for but unable to find it, just because of the exact things you describe. Adding to the draw with no place to put it. So you mix it with something close or compatible. Sometimes it makes me stop what I'm doing and go sit down and watch the tv and sometimes it can cause days of not going back in the shop. Just watching this video seems to have taken a load off my shoulders having you describe and pinpoint the problem. I see the solution and I feel better. Thank You! I have also Subscribed.
@joell439
@joell439 Жыл бұрын
Thank you James! I'll be upgrading to this approach this year. 👍👍😎👍👍
@stevespra1
@stevespra1 Жыл бұрын
Nice work, James. Your grasp of 3D CAD never ceases to amaze me. I have one little tip on the label maker since I have the same brand. If you set the units to metric, the label length and spacing (i.e. for terminal blocks) is more accurate.
@3dmakerzone75
@3dmakerzone75 Жыл бұрын
I have exactly the same problem. I frequently get paralyzed from starting a storage project because I don't know the best way to solve it. This video is a great help. I've looked at other 3D printed box systems based on a grid system that doesn't fit the drawers I have so there is always a lot of extra space. Now I'm convinced that sizing the boxes to my drawers is the way to go.
@backbeatwoodworks
@backbeatwoodworks Жыл бұрын
I want to just say Thank You for sharing. I'm pretty new with Fusion 360 and this taught me so much. This process for creating organization boxes is a game changer for me.
@toddcumberland132
@toddcumberland132 Жыл бұрын
good stuff. I fell down this hole some time ago. Did the Sortimo . Tanos, route. I looked at these boxes, they were not great at keeping small parts separated. The idea of the 3d printer is a great idea. The Sortimo and Tanos have different sized boxes that allow for the different size and adjustability. Where the 3d printing really comes into play is making custom size and odd shaped boxes. For example having a wire stripper shaped box in the box with wire splicing supplies. As usual great work.
@Tailhook69
@Tailhook69 Жыл бұрын
Great practical use of parameters. Thank you!
@FE427TP
@FE427TP Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I've fought with Fusion and just never got the hang of it. I was going to dig up your tutorial for the Plasma Torch and open Fusion360 and do it at the same time to try to learn it but I saw this pop up and worked it through step by step (replaying it many times) and I at least got the component copied. So thanks again
@oban3773
@oban3773 Жыл бұрын
I just moved and Im pretty new to having my own hardware and space to organize my workshop. I am exactly like you with the anxiety bit and my god was this video was therapeutic. Its been a blast.
@joesmith2465
@joesmith2465 Жыл бұрын
looks like endless hours of 3d printing ;)
@JurassicJolts
@JurassicJolts Жыл бұрын
I think that’s a good philosophy with storage being a living creature. Good video!
@t1mmy13
@t1mmy13 Жыл бұрын
Easily my favourite solution I've seen for this problem. I've tried using gridfinity but never really found a home for the boxes so they 'float around'. This is really nice
@davidapp3730
@davidapp3730 Жыл бұрын
Very nice solution to the age old problem of small parts.
@tgirard123
@tgirard123 Жыл бұрын
That was great. Just finished printing on my iFast that I bought on your review. Love that printer. Added a dedicated sticker holder and a small lip on the front for easier grabbing. Thanks again for the design :)
@michaellehmann280
@michaellehmann280 Жыл бұрын
Very nice James! I'm going to look into doing this.
@donaldvantongeren8385
@donaldvantongeren8385 Жыл бұрын
I can so relate to what you say! Thanks, truly enjoyed watching it 😊
@TerryPullen
@TerryPullen Жыл бұрын
My small parts system is similar to yours. I've added a catalog consisting of a top-down photo of each box. I keep a printed version next to my parts area, and i always have the electronic version available on my phone. A tray ID label is attached to each tray so that it is visible both in the photo and from the front of the closed drawer. That means the tray number matches the page number making the trays easy to find. I don't print individual labels because with the photos I don't need them. This means that while designing something I don't have to be in the shop to know whether or not I have the parts. This system is also helpful when I am standing in the hardware isle wondering if I should buy a pack ot washers.
@jameslaird8399
@jameslaird8399 10 ай бұрын
Well what do you know! Followed the tutorial and I'm currently printing a pile of boxes for my Beta Tool trolley. Saved me a whole pile of time and I learned stuff! Thanks again James :D
@Neverstopbuilding
@Neverstopbuilding Жыл бұрын
Right on, I have those same boxes and a few different trays, but you make good points, I always end up with a few of many things. I should follow your lead
@Neverstopbuilding
@Neverstopbuilding Жыл бұрын
Oh jeez you are speaking right to me about starting anxiety with systems where many scenarios are just as good. I’m with ya brother.
@johncrisman576
@johncrisman576 Жыл бұрын
Excellent demo of Fusion 360. That demo is much like a spreadsheet. Neat!
@SWF734
@SWF734 Жыл бұрын
Ahhh organization. Awesome!
@NWGR
@NWGR 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! I made my own bins as well, just of a different design, but I hadn't thought to make some narrow ones for items I don't have a lot of. That's a great idea! I use onshape so adding the parameters to my own design was pretty simple.
@JohannSwart_JWS
@JohannSwart_JWS Жыл бұрын
I actually thought you did this a long time ago, being a 3D printer guy, so I thought this might be an old video suggested by YT. Smiled at OCD person knowing exactly how to trigger the others :-) Love how even your Misc trays are organized. I had a business partner years ago, who built an elaborate filing system for himself to try and dig himself out of total chaos. The last file he created in every drawer was labeled "Things to be filed". Laughed out loud at that, because I knew what would happen, and it did, spectacularly. This is sooo much better than the old pull-out little drawer systems we all used for electronic components etc. They just do not work for nuts and bolts. In fact, I might convert all my storage to something like this. Just need to find the proper host cabinets, that are readily available with some continuity in the market. And then, many 100's of hours on the 3D printer. Thanks (I think)! Clicked "Like" 3 times...
@Clough42
@Clough42 Жыл бұрын
I did a video a while back about 3D-printed trays for mill tooling and boxes for my larger rolling toolboxes.
@JohannSwart_JWS
@JohannSwart_JWS Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the response. I REALLY like your channel. Ticks all the boxes for me. OK, enough brown nosing...
@qivarebil2149
@qivarebil2149 Жыл бұрын
Great ideas in a great video, James! I also had these "decisions, decisions, decisions" to make - when I moved to a new workshop and had to organise all my tools and hardware again. It took me forever to get "all" the tools onto walls and in drawers - I still have tons to do. Maybe it's time to sell some of the ones I have multiples of? And that's another good side of going through Your stuff from time to time. You get rid of dead meat, and free up space! Bonus!
@automaticprojects
@automaticprojects Жыл бұрын
Great project and video
@MPenzlin
@MPenzlin Жыл бұрын
Did something similar. Some additional hints: Use white plastic. In deed easier to see the parts in the box. Make the boxes so small, that they are almost filled to the top. So you use the complete z- and don't waste x-y.
@Engineerd3d
@Engineerd3d Жыл бұрын
Very nice work. It's interesting that software folks are interested in machining. I fit in this camp too.
@dlgloege
@dlgloege Жыл бұрын
I feel your pain. I have stuff in multiple storage "systems". I love the Milwaukee packout system but it is cost prohibitive for keeping everything in. I also use various sizes of Arko bins that are hung on the wall with cleats. Arko bins are great for really big stuff but are limited in their ability to be re-sized. I use Plano boxes for small items. These boxes work but lack the ability to easily change sizes due to the internal dividers being pre determined by the manufacture. I have been inspired. Now all I need to do is think about the ramifications of changing "my system" which will ultimately lead to additional procrastination.
@sticks7817
@sticks7817 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting the Fusion 360 walk through. Took me several attempts but finally got it to work. This solves a world of problems with my service truck - I have the 12 x 18 x 3 drawers in my service truck and now I can get things organized with the limited number of drawers. Working on some stack able/nesting inserts so a smaller box can fit inside another - I.E. 10A micro fuse inside the 10A mini fuse, or your application, 4mm nut inside/on top of the 4mm flat washer. Filament cost and print time is spooky compared to buying the factory insert though. I need to use thicker walls - 1.6mm so I am around 400kg per build plate and 7 hours, which will be about 1.3 rolls per tray - and I am using PLA+. 4 spools of filament and near 72 hours total printing on estimate.
@MyLilMule
@MyLilMule Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this video more than you know. Not only are your ADHD-themed organizational skills inspiring 😉 but what I learned about Fusion 360 is extremely useful. I have a growing collection of end mills acquired through auction or on the second hand FB and CL market and I needed a better way to organize them. Printing up a batch of containers to fit in the drawer of my toolbox on the Voron 2 as I write this. Well done on all accounts. I wish I had the space for those storage units. Always been envious of my local Ace Hardware. Cheers.
@kafklatsch3198
@kafklatsch3198 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@trevorhynes117
@trevorhynes117 Жыл бұрын
Just the video I needed !
@beeman1885
@beeman1885 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Learned some Fusion 360 features as well. I’d have to keep the latches closed or someone (probably me) will grab a handle to pick it up like a briefcase and parts will go everywhere.
@DavidCAllen50
@DavidCAllen50 Жыл бұрын
“By the time my father was my age he had amassed, like, 30 coffee cans full of screws. I have none. What have I done with my life?”
@Chromevulcan
@Chromevulcan Жыл бұрын
I love your videos, I'm a patron, and I love the detail you put into your videos. But I nerded out so hard on this one, lol. Thanks!
@bkoholliston
@bkoholliston Жыл бұрын
I have Orange Big Box "tackle" style removable separator boxes that are about 1/3 the size of your drawers and I have had them for many years. I find that having a box for each screw size (like 10-32 or M6) is the end game, but I do have mixed boxes for things I don't have a lot of. As with yours, everything is labelled--the box itself and the compartments. If the fastener came from McMaster, I will often put the flap from the McMaster box underneath the fasteners so I can reorder when the time comes like a mini kanban card. I also use coin/stamp collecting little envelopes (3.5x2.25") that I label and put in a box. The stuff smaller than about M3 really benefits from the envelopes so it does not get lost--you can blue tape them closed so you can reuse them. For stuff I have a lot of in different types such 1/4-20 and M6, I have a box for regular and a separate box for stainless, etc. I organize my taps and dies, some drill bits that don't go in drill index, etc. in a similar way. And my mini-pallet clamps have their own box. I got interested in the Gridfinity system that is open-source 3D printed boxes and grids under then. The boxes are on a 42x42mm grid with box heights from 14mm by 7mm steps. I think that might be the next thing I'll try.
@wnichols99
@wnichols99 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I have found that small washers and things like resistors tend to get out of place if the boxes are tipped up. To prevent it I have lined the inside of the lid with a thin piece of neoprene foam. Keeps everything in place and even keeps the boxes from sliding around if the box is not completely populated.
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball Жыл бұрын
Tetris in the shop, bet you were good at the video game!!!..enjoyed as you presented this subject in a great teaching episode
@figurativelythedevil5042
@figurativelythedevil5042 Жыл бұрын
I've been doing something similar with my organizing of electronic components, specifically crimp connectors, at work, of which we use many *many* different types and brands. For labeling, I try to add more parameters. Specifically for your bolts, I would add the thread pitch, material & finish, drive size, and part number. Stuff like that ends up saving me so much time in the long run.
@bareenlars
@bareenlars Жыл бұрын
This is awesome! did see a video on a similar setup, and he made a "skeleton" base, that made the boxes stay in place even if one of them was removed.
@nordishkiel5985
@nordishkiel5985 Жыл бұрын
I came to a very similar system over the years. Mine is based on modular plastik bins and metal cases sold by Allit. The cases have a layer of foam in the lid, so even the smallest parts can't escape. They also make bins for drawers.
@transmitterguy478
@transmitterguy478 Жыл бұрын
Cool video, nice boxes.
@MaxxPainII
@MaxxPainII Жыл бұрын
Wow, great job.
@ADBBuild
@ADBBuild Жыл бұрын
I made a similar system for a Lista cabinet I have, but I designed a grid the bins locate in that I attached to the bottom of the drawer. This keeps the bins from sliding around when some have been taken out of the drawer. I also designed a little tab that extends into the box a bit, big enough to put a label on and also used as a place to lift from with your finger. I found that bins in the center are hard to get out without it as there is no place to grab.
@Zitropat
@Zitropat Жыл бұрын
A nice example of a modular and adaptable system.
@hjjavaher
@hjjavaher Жыл бұрын
Have you looked at the opensource project called gridfinity? :)
@Khitiara_
@Khitiara_ Жыл бұрын
came here to say the same thing, established open source/open hardware version of this concept
@CraigHollabaugh
@CraigHollabaugh Жыл бұрын
​@@Khitiara_ I found it a lot of active creators, like James, are busy creating content not raoming KZbin for interesting projects.
@Khitiara_
@Khitiara_ Жыл бұрын
@@CraigHollabaugh hence why this comment is useful - let james know about it since hes busy and might not have seen it
@CraigHollabaugh
@CraigHollabaugh Жыл бұрын
​@@Khitiara_ agree
@aeroderek
@aeroderek Жыл бұрын
I went with a combination of reconfigureable plano tackle boxes, Stanley yellow boxes similar to this, and Rigid for bigger construction screws. The common theme is a clear lid so I can see without opening for the odd stuff. Also bigger clear Sterlite 11x17 bins that fit in my cabinets and shelves
@OhHeyTrevorFlowers
@OhHeyTrevorFlowers Жыл бұрын
I'm happy to see more discussion of small shop organization. I looked up the prices of those boxes and the 12 box stack that James has is $700 before tax and shipping.
@Clough42
@Clough42 Жыл бұрын
I paid around half that. Prices vary a lot.
@heriberthuber54
@heriberthuber54 Жыл бұрын
Gridfinity is all I'm saying. Check it :-)
@sriramneravati5048
@sriramneravati5048 Жыл бұрын
Small Price for quality. I cannot tell you how much i hate the plastic sorting bins. Also, I've seen this exact stack for about $85 at surplus auctions (after the auction concluded)
@mattholden5
@mattholden5 Жыл бұрын
James, very cool way to marry the notion of schema to shop organization.
@Ddabig40mac
@Ddabig40mac Жыл бұрын
I have similar organizational anxieties. I also have some object permanence issues such that if I can't promptly find the thing, I'll stall out, re-purchase, or tear everything down until it's located. As a result, I'm gradually replacing cardboard boxes with semi-transparent totes, and moving rigidly organized items into my solid color totes.
@YankeeinSC1
@YankeeinSC1 7 ай бұрын
The insight to your logic and dare I say phobias in this vid, is a gold mine...a deep, complex, multi-fissure chasing, sprawling, subterranean, OCD gold mine, but a gold mine none-the-less. I consider myself reasonably proficient in 360 and most tasks in and around the shop. I however never think to use parameters from the onset, which is basically the same concept as your approach to organizing hardware. Plan for change from the start. I just bought my son an entry level 3D printer. He's working on custom organization for his Milwaukee Pack-out system. I'm going to suggest that he too, takes a look into your thought process.
@jobkneppers
@jobkneppers Жыл бұрын
James, great video. Especially on the parameter use in CAD. Of course I want to add a little tip. It's in the nature of this friendly human being. Your boxes are a great solution for a static use in a shop like you do. I also travel to clients and have noticed using several similar systems that the lid doesn't close all of the compartments during carrying vertical. If you store your. e.g. M2 nuts in a compartment somewhere in the middle they migrated to other boxes in their vicinity and the easy in, easy out principle is lost. One major problem, as you described too, is the lack of stiffness of the lid which bowes when closed. The row next to the hinge and the row next to the lock/closure are quite well covered (not if you are storing M2 washers too though). Because of this I used a layer of foam on the inside of the lid and it did became better but still not satisfactory and I still had to search for the really small parts on the job (I know you're in there somewhere with a paying client breathing in my neck). Because of this issue I printed small containers with their own lids. I carry a lot of the same small hardware over the last 20 years so 80% of them had a name printed on the lid too. The other ones had a small recess for a printed designation and added flexibility to the system. Maybe a tip for the more travelling technicians who want to keep their small stuff organized as well? Thank you James. I'm a fan of you and your channel. Keep up the good work. Best, Job PS; the idea of being organised is like the arithmetic definition of a limit; the direction is right but you'll never get there. When you own a job shop this is particularly true; new valuable/usable stuff is left after finishing jobs and you stash it somewhere eventually; the diversity of these parts becomes overwhelming over time and even finding right names can become an issue. It's a never ending race and a dream to fulfill. Once you entered the six planks leading to you being finally organized your organisational days are finally over and someone else has to decide where to put it. If you want it to be different you have to periodically throw stuff away laying there for more than a year without use. I did this many times and once I did I could use one of the thrown away parts the week after they left the building. I guess Murphy watched my performance too. You never get it quite right is my message and that's the beauty too.
@Clough42
@Clough42 Жыл бұрын
The foam is a good idea. I wonder how that will hold up over time. I generally don't tilt the boxes all the way back, so things stay put, but for mobile use, or throwing in a vehicle, it would be an issue.
@martinmckee5333
@martinmckee5333 Жыл бұрын
Funny, this is almost exactly like a project I did a year ago. It was great to be able to custom design the trays to fit my storage and to produce them at will.
@jasonh3109
@jasonh3109 Жыл бұрын
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!
@Infrared73
@Infrared73 Жыл бұрын
Love seeing this. It feels like everyone with a 3D printer does something similar. The only suggestion I might have for the boxes would be to allow the boxes to stack when empty. As your system evolves you will have unused boxes that you will probably want to keep for future changes.
@Graham_Wideman
@Graham_Wideman Жыл бұрын
Hahaha,printing storage boxes is like 3D printer baptism.
@michaelgraff6978
@michaelgraff6978 Жыл бұрын
I went with Gridfinity. It makes some decisions easy (like how many I can fit in a given space) and then it's just a matter of using 1x1, 1x2, 1xN, 2x2, 2x3, etc. You can adjust the grid size by scaling most of them to fit almost any space, especially using the SCAD remake that has all the parameters needed.
@OhHeyTrevorFlowers
@OhHeyTrevorFlowers Жыл бұрын
There's also FreeGrid which is similar to gridfinity but with a few different design choices. But yeah, SCAD is so good for this kind of work.
@DolezalPetr
@DolezalPetr Жыл бұрын
thanks for the fusion 360 lesson, I might use some of these tricks in my own designs
@brynyard
@brynyard Жыл бұрын
I use pouches for small amounts of small parts, makes them easy to get, reasonable fast to find (just flip through the labels), and the pouch can have lots of text to describe what it is (electronics parts in particular).
@klaernie
@klaernie Жыл бұрын
What kind of pouches did you find useful? I'm looking for a nice way to get my misc hardware sorted, and something flippable sounds really nice.
@INSIDEHARDWARE
@INSIDEHARDWARE Жыл бұрын
Alex Chappell has a similar system. But his 2.0 versions includes a floor grid to help allign boxes
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop Жыл бұрын
That must have taken a long time to print. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
@roflchopter11
@roflchopter11 Жыл бұрын
Some of the commercial boxes (like the harbor freight ones) and printed designs from other KZbinrs use features on the bottom of the box and a grid in the bottom to hold them in alignment even without being complete full.
@michaelbrean4440
@michaelbrean4440 Жыл бұрын
Just got my first 3d printer today. Nice.
@chevyfahrer
@chevyfahrer Жыл бұрын
looks like you re-invented the Bosch L Boxx Insetbox system with some nice upgrades.These rounded bottom edges make a huge difference when it comes to grab really small parts.Nice work,always a fun to watch when you sweep through fusion360 like a pro.
@rpavlik1
@rpavlik1 Жыл бұрын
Dang, those drawers look really slick. So slick I bet they're pretty darn expensive 😁
@rgetso
@rgetso Жыл бұрын
For the two cabinets and 12 boxes: ~$660
@JKTCGMV13
@JKTCGMV13 5 ай бұрын
I’m also a software engineer. I love to hear the software engineers thoughts on a machining channel
@edwardaloftis6705
@edwardaloftis6705 11 ай бұрын
Nice boxes. I use Large Plano Tackle boxes, the shelves come out so they can be used for electric hand tools too.
@BrilliantDesignOnline
@BrilliantDesignOnline Жыл бұрын
I have gone with cards; I use notecards trimmed to required size, and a hunk of double sided tape for box adhesion, with the label on the card.
@rjordans
@rjordans Жыл бұрын
For the electrical crimp connectors, see if you can have a spot for the crimp tool in the same storage box. Once I started doing that it saved me so much looking for the right tool.
@BigManko
@BigManko 8 ай бұрын
Hmhhhh, i have a feeling i know how i am gonna spend my Christmas with one of my new Prusas... Watching this channel can be rather dangerous. Thank you for the great knowledge James!
@marknahabedian1803
@marknahabedian1803 Жыл бұрын
Alexandre Chappel has an extensive system of 3d printed parts storage boxes that has gone through several design iterations. His are based on different drawers and cases though. His solution includes a grid frame that goes in the bottom of a drawer so that the boxes don't move if the drawer isn't fully populated.
@HylaTube
@HylaTube Жыл бұрын
Category „strangely satisfying“ 😊
@GoatZilla
@GoatZilla 11 ай бұрын
single wall vase mode works just fine.
@eulerizeit
@eulerizeit Жыл бұрын
As a person that also works in software I appreciate that whatever system I choose at first it will be wrong and I need to make change easy
@eulerizeit
@eulerizeit Жыл бұрын
And I hit enter right before you said this same thing.
@hugosales8102
@hugosales8102 Жыл бұрын
Seen other systems, and they generally include a grid on the bottom, which keeps the other boxes in place when you remove one. Also, as someone else pointed out, the 8/3 calculation disregards the spacing
@444guns
@444guns Жыл бұрын
Yeah, software engineer here as well :)) Nice organizers !
@dcviper985
@dcviper985 Жыл бұрын
I wish I had something like your little boxes when I was in the Navy and had a vidmar with about 10k electronic components in it. Also, you’re weird. It’s why we love you.
@rgetso
@rgetso Жыл бұрын
"Normal" people don't understand our struggles.
@maxpro9346
@maxpro9346 Жыл бұрын
I immediately run to my psychoanalyst to tell him that I have found the solution to my anxiety problem ! I'm going to print boxes right now. Thank you very much Dr. James ! 😁
@richardjones38
@richardjones38 Жыл бұрын
I've thought of 3d printing little boxes for lathe and miller tooling I keep in a roll cabinet, but my printer doesn't like PLA since I set it up for nylon and tpr, and I'm not wasting nylon filament on drawer organisers. You could have done with starting with Stanley 8 compartment (deep, part no 1-92-749) and 25 compartment (shallow, part no 1-92-748) boxes. They come with removable individual boxes, with the exact arrangement varying depending on whether it's the deep or shallow version (at least 2 sizes per box). They're what I store all my fasteners and pipe fitting, etc in. It's a pity they don't have radiused bottom corners on the smallest boxes though. I've been meaning to make a cabinet with drawer frames for my 20 or so of these boxes of small parts for years, but it's not got to the top of the the 'to do' list yet.
@75keg75
@75keg75 Жыл бұрын
Adjacent to the hinge cutout. You could have put in a 10mm wide “shelf” parallel to the cutout extrusion. Labelling on a horizontal surface might be easier on the anxiety as you won’t have to crane neck or lift box to angle the label, especially lower down. Although after time you will instinctively, go to specific boxes and probably not use labels anyway… that muscle memory is wonderful.
@user-ii8dz4vu7n
@user-ii8dz4vu7n Жыл бұрын
I'm doing a similar thing only with stackable storage systems that have been blowing up. I basically made server racks out of square tube. I can drill, rivnut, and install slides as I grow my collection, while having larger boxes for larger tools. Love it, but the boxes are about an inch too tall for some things. Not the end of the world.
@PowerScissor
@PowerScissor Жыл бұрын
Visitors is the only reason I clean anything ever.
@Nf6xNet
@Nf6xNet Жыл бұрын
I am so familiar with the analysis paralysis you describe.
@stuartkorte1642
@stuartkorte1642 Жыл бұрын
Ha, taxonomy! I like it. I have these and the Lista cabinets and the bins are great. I didn’t consider pulling the trays and replacing with custom bins. Another project added to the list. The mixed matched colors would bother me though
@kabyla8351
@kabyla8351 Жыл бұрын
I like how you put the Metric fasteners in the superior drawers 😏
@Clough42
@Clough42 Жыл бұрын
I access them more often, so that makes sense. It's also easy to change if that doesn't work out.
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