VPS Avenger 2.0 Overview w New Features

[@Wabashprof]

This is the best beginner tutorial for Avenger I've seen ... and I've been through quite a few. It's clear, step-by-step, without getting lost in the weeds of deep features I don't need yet. Thanks for taking the time to do this. I look forward to your future Avenger videos.

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Thanks for supporting! Stay tuned for more vids

[@Tarbash7364]

I have the AV Ti2. The leads are better. At least it’s better than Nexus and Sylenth. It’s very powerful in my opinion.

[@ricshaw4358]

Dayum - This is the Clearest, most useful Avenger Tutorial on KZbin

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Glad you think so! Thank you for watching.

[@TheFoolsGuild]

Dude, the way you present info is spot on. The fact you summarise, right as I'm starting to hit critical mass for new info... you have great instincts for that. Subscribed.

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Thanks for subscribing. Been away for a bit but more videos very soon. Let me know if you have any video ideas.

[@TheFoolsGuild]

@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE Oh yeah, I should answer your question in the video... Easy. I've been in 3D and 2D art for about 20 years, and have decided to explore music just for fun. Loving it and really enjoy 'playing' it. Which I mean quite literally. Been a long time since art felt that way. But as you say, it's vastly crowded with tools and plugins out there, and it feels especially tricky to commit to a synth. Most plugins that I own, I follow and discover well enough fir the most part, but synths, vital, massive, serum, they're all complex scary looking things. In the end I chose this. There's something discoverable about it, but playful too. Maybe its my age that there's something comforting about it looking a bit like winamp. :D Mostly though, there's a feeling to the send layering that's a bit like photoshop or zbrush or something like that, so I kinda 'get it' and it doesn't scare me as much... As I'm familiarising myself with the tool, I guess it's the overwhelming nature of limitless possibility that does get scary. I have presets to deconstruct, which is great. But honestly stuff that I really love video-wise is concise lessons that scale. You know how any skill is a bit like a web... one strand leads to the next? Typically, I find that each strand needs an intention to try to fulfil. So videos that maybe start small but build to a sequence on one key kinda thing -- which really blows my mind about this synth btw -- I'd be super interested in that. I don't even mind what genre it's in. It's that layering process that would be cool. Anyway, sorry for the essay. Thanks again.

[@lucstraver3897]

Fantastic tutorial on Avenger! Your clear, step-by-step approach is perfect for beginners like me, avoiding unnecessary complexity while still being thorough. Can't wait to learn more and master this powerful tool. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Glad it was helpful!

[@kbgeezer]

Excellent overview, well structured, well explained, just the right length to dive into the monster. Thank you !

[@nihost]

Thank you for that great video. I upgraded from version 1 to 2 a couple of days ago and was instantly more than happpy to see the improvements. for a long time, dune 3 was my go-to synth but with version 2, its avenger now. the cpu load is so much better now and its sound even more powerfull and sooo clean

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Awesome upgrade

[@ParadiseFound909]

Excellent in depth video !!! This beast is like a DAW in a DAW ! Its SUPER powerful !

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Couldn't agree more! I love the new random arp key lock to come up with tons of baselines

[@29djandy]

Amazing teaching. Please more on every feature In Avenger 2

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Coming very soon. Thanks for supporting and subscribing:)

[@johnnywong7917]

@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE Can't wait!! 😀Thx

[@sjfarrell2.0]

A great video on an amazing instument. Avenger 2.0 is so good I can't recommend it enough. Even though it looks like a lot to take in it is actually quite simple to use, when you have played with it for an hour or so. The presets are amazing and are the best place to start when trying to work out how stuff works. And the quality of the sounds is top tier. I wont be using anything else for sometime.

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Totally agree. New avenger workflow coming soon

[@ivansaxo]

Thanks for great "open door" to begin with this great instrument!

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

More to come

[@issiewizzie]

You were absolutely right... Just made the purchase, it's incredible. and it genuinely brought tears of joy to my eyes (as an Omnisphere and Falcon owner). I didn't buy this for EDM; it's for sound design and hybrid film composition, and it excels in those areas. With over 30 years in the game, I can confidently say this is the future!

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Congrats! I think it’s limitless. It’s intimidating but as you unlock it…

[@issiewizzie]

I'm hoping they have the midi import feature to VPs for drum seq/arp . that way I don't have to recreate my arp midi loops from scratch again or midi drum loops @@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

@issiewizzie you can import and export drum midi in the drum seq. The arp I believe is export only, but if you have midi, just place it in the daw track and skip the arp in avenger

[@cachelesssociety5187]

@@issiewizzie Parawave rapid has that import of MIDI to the arp.

[@issiewizzie]

that doesn't help ...as i have Avenger. in any case, the've mentioned the implementation for version 2.1 @@cachelesssociety5187

[@nny9873]

Just picked it up on sale and I'm amazed by the possibilities. Thanks for the video!

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Hope you enjoy it! Stay tuned for more indepth videos on each section.

[@MartinEigenmann]

Brilliant! Best tutorial and walkthrough to Avenger 2!

[@mcggroup4934]

Danke!

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

THANK YOU!! I’m grateful

[@D76-z2h]

Really appreciate this tutorial as it's so well done and the best for this VST. Thankyou!! Will be definitely interested to see more content, however not only on the workings of Avenger but your workflow inside of your DAW. Seeing it's a mini DAW in itself. Whilst am sure it could be very true that it's the only VST Synth we will ever need, it sure won't be as many of us as have built up many different options along the way apart from the stock plugins that come with any DAW. Also MIDI routing to a Komplete Kontrol or other generic controllers as not yet worked that out yet seeing the right click brings up the tooltip rather than MIDI learn etc. Cheers!! 👍

[@GEELASOUNDTV]

This dude is good and naturally likeable

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Thanks!!! More videos in the way!

[@stephenbailey7676]

Very well presented 😀

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Glad you liked it

[@SergeFlashMan]

KZbin need to have more videos about VPS Avenger like this!

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

More to come. Stay tuned

[@philippebackprotips]

Running Avenger inside MPC Software here. Keyboard splits take another dimension. For creative performances, this makes a pretty cool combo. Upgraded to v2 and really having a blast w it. Worth every cent. This and Vital are really cool to use together as well.😊

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Awesome!

[@johnthomas338]

I'm so glad you didn't write the "W" word there! Almost made a mistake and wrote it in full! Oh the humanity... Seriously, why didn't you just write "with'"? Is there a law against it? Is it a magic word that is so obvious that you don't have to write it any more, and can just put "w"? Is it trendy? Cool?

[@philippebackprotips]

​@@johnthomas338trend cool af

[@MIKAELAMONET]

I love this synth on my tracks. Sounds amazing!!❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

You’re tracks sound amazing

[@robertcarlsson1781]

Great overview. I’m new to Avenger so this was very useful!

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Glad it was helpful!

[@afrohawk]

Mind blown. I'm sold, take my money. Great review.

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

You and me both! More videos on the way soon!

[@Overxpossed]

Best showcase I have ever seen of this synth. I have the previous version and I was expecting something REALLY new with this version but it wasn't the case. Have you tried PhasePlant? That's a hell of a synth!

[@philippebackprotips]

Avenger is great indeed. Lots of stuff to learn to master it.

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Make sure to subscribe cause there’s a whole upcoming series going deep into mastering it

[@DavidCicero]

Brilliant breakdown of the workings of this great synth. Thank you ❤

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Glad you enjoyed it! More indepth video on the way soon.

[@user-qm2lv2nl2b]

This was really useful. When can we expect the more in depth tutorials/videos about the functions?

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

I will start posting them over the next 2 weeks. Starting with a Secrets of Sounddesign for those that are just starting with synths then the detailed vids of Avenger. Thanks for watching

[@StanislawHalasa684]

Great Video Thank you,

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mattwillems5158]

Hi Stu! Good to see you my friend!

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Yo! What’s up brother. Hope you’re well. Shoot me a message in instagram @whoishushmusic

[@robh7671]

WOW, Just a great video on VPS Avenger 2.0, did you buy any ex-sound packs???

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Yes I did, I have several from the last couple years of use. They are all great.

[@signaltouch7413]

subscribed forever ! wow you are amazing

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Thanks!!! More videos coming soon

[@SSN70]

Wow ! Just ridiculous and slightly overwhelming 😂🤘🏽🍻

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Beautifully overwhelming

[@mitro7791]

Fantastic Overview

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Thanks for the support

[@moleex5759]

I made a whole tune using just this synth and their samples and their multiband compressor. Vengeance stuff is great

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Agreed, way underrated

Best tutorial. Thanks dude !

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Glad it helped! Thanks for supporting

[@Jiglo71]

Crikey! This is really really deep and there's a lot to take in, so your overview explaining the features is incredibly useful, thanks. I was worried that a M1 Pro with 16gb of ram might struggle after reading some user comments, but your CPU% has kept very low throughout, so even if you're running the most powerful mac, I guess I should be ok.

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

I have M1 Pro as well. Works great

[@philippegisselmann5026]

Merci pour cet excellent travail .

[@johnghadimi]

This was excellent. Looking forward to more deep dives. I definitely want an ARP one. :) Also, I wonder if VPS will convert their pre-V2 factory set and all of their expansions to provide previews? I love that feature in Nexus, and glad it was added in V2.

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Just right click in the browser and select Update all previews, all old packs will update with previews

[@johnghadimi]

@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE Fantastic!!

[@ViRiXDreamcore]

That drum sequencer is great but i hope they add the option to have multiple or variations of drum patterns.

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

One way to create a variation could be to add a macro to the drum mixer so you can take out elements. But I agree, having the ability to switch between patterns would be great.

[@orchestralcinematiceducation]

superb video - very helpful

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Glad it was helpful!

[@EmpiricalMind]

Bought v2.0 yesterday, would love it if you could do a master class on this synth as I'm a bit of a noob to sound design and I want to learn the full capabilities and creative potential of Avenger 2, thanks for this overview. Subbed. 👍

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Will do! Currently working on a masterclass that starts with general sound design concepts first

[@EmpiricalMind]

@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE Great looking forward to it, thank you, much appreciated!!

[@michail_777]

Thanks,useful information for me as I eventually want to buy one good virtual instrument.

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

This is the only synth you will need

[@retromograph3893]

Avenger 2 is a total monster! Only two things i'm missing that hopefully come in 3.0: a proper sampler, with time stretching features like Halion / Kontakt....i don't mean a sampler to rival those two, but we need all the normal sample manipulation tools....and an FX matrix, like Melda MXXX, for unlimited FX chaining building.

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Would be amazing to have a Serato sampler mode inside for slicing to keys

[@andrejnizneodeskij]

Лайк за большой труд )))Для продвижения канала коммент))

[@charlottemcmillan9668]

Great video - thank you!

[@muco007]

Helpful, Thanks!

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Glad it was helpful!

[@lucasjuniorproducer]

Dope video!!!! How you put the Content library leters so big? I want also to read well..:)

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

I think it’s just the default setting. I believe it’s adjustable in the settings

[@Beats4all_]

Everything is well explained. Thank you. But how do you save the macros you have created in Avenger 2?

[@eric640]

my only beef with Avenger - which is my go to synth that I love dearly, is the lack of presets. Having to drop $80 for expansions is brutal. They need to have more general presets just using factory content available. That is why Serum sticks around and just remains so popular. We need more presets! Maybe sell a 500 presets pack for $20 - something like that. Hmmm maybe we should start a preset site...

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

I agree the expansion are taxing. I did the pick 5 with a coupon and they came to about 40$ each. Still pricey but better

[@Lateraluz777]

I was also curious how you use VPS Avenger 2 to write tracks (your workflow). For example, how do you write the entirety of a drum track? Do you automate the mute/unmute function for each individual drum sound throughout the track? Or do you solo each individual drum sound in its own channel and then arrange it that way? Just curious how you approach it. Thanks!

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

I’ll do a practice breakdown video for ya, great idea

[@Lateraluz777]

That’d be amazing! Could you include the midii-in channel routing in Ableton Live in the video too please? You’re awesome, man! Thank you so much!

[@Wendel_Kos]

did you try the analog expansions from Encounters media? some kind of obscure developer, but they make awesome analog sounding sounds with Avenger... Avenger Goes Diva! :)

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

No, Never heard of it but sounds amazing!

[@Gothlord666]

Nice tutorial ,love it !!

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Thank you for the view!

[@bjornfrankl7916]

First things first, Version 1 was nearly impossible to install due to a VERY strange authentication process. I succeeded after many hours. Then, after an updated macOS, I had to do it again :-( However, this time I just couldn't authenticate the product. This surely makes me wonder if v2 is any better at this. I am sceptical...

[@davidpurple3698]

Thanks / great overview. Start following. One thing - the Arp has always confused me - so maybe show in future, if there's any smart way to make sure your Arp will play in a specific key e.g. Cmin. Also a smart way to export the Drums to your DAW. And the Editor - best way of using that ?

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

All great questions which we are going to cover in future videos, but some short answers for you. regarding the Arp (sequencer), the root note is whatever key you hold down on the keyboard. So, when you look at the arp default, its just C repeating. Instead of C, think of this as the root. So if you press G on the keys, its going to play G repeating, the root follow what you play. C in the Arp is sort of like saying the root of the scale. Lets say you moved the first step in the arp up 7 steps, then when you press down C on the Keyboard, it will be playing 7 steps up on the first note, or the 5th of the scale. If you want a specific scale, you can use the new scale parameter when you go into the Random (dice button) Then the notes generated should snap into that scale you defined. Its always good though to learn the specific intervals of the scales and and modes you want to work in. Drums into the Daw: Best way I found to do this. Check out the Mixer section of this video, you will see when I go into the drum mixer tab and show the dropdown to route each sound out an individual output. Route each sound to their output. Then in your daw, make an audio channel for each drum output and route out of avenger into each channel. Then you can use the effects of your daw. You can also export the midi from the Arp, then import into the Avenger midi track and tweak the midi as the song goes. you will make to turn off the arp at this point. The editor changes based on what synth engine you are working with. This can get deep but will cover in a future vid. Hope that helps.

[@davidpurple3698]

@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE Thanks for great answers. The new Scale parameter helps but would be great if the arp coulee be 'locked' to a specific Key. I will watch your videos as the come along. Thanks

[@djerikfox]

..is there a way to import a midi file and use it as an arp..?like rapid..? regards

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

I’ll look into it and let you know

[@jwalkermed]

Upgraded to v2 myself. sounds great. deep synth. I still think the gui is a little convoluted and the mod matrix is kinda cramped.

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Agree on the mod matrix. Wish it could expand to half the full synth size

[@jwalkermed]

@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE yeah it'd be nice if there was an option to pop out into it's own windows and then I'd put it on a second monitor for editing sessions. I think I'll suggest it to Manuel and a future feature

[@BorisBarroso]

Thanks for the video, I recently purchased Avenger 2 (Rent to own). Can you make advanced tutorials of VPS avenger, maybe show how to integrate with Bitwig, The workflow should be pretty amazing. I decided for Avenger because of the sound quality and the workflow (Reminds me a bit of u-he Hive).

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Currently in the works

[@ParadiseFound909]

I got the new version but the sounds won't audition until I load it up ? Looked at settings cant find the setting ? I also installed it on my laptop and I see I does audition on my laptop which is older but does not on the M1 very disappointing :( will have to wait for M1 update

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Sorry for the delay, did you ever get this resolved? I have the same laptop and the preview works fine. Just make sure the musical note at the top of the browser is clicked that will activate the previews. You can also write click inside of the browser and click on update previews and it will generate previews for something that doesn’t have a preview.

[@Lateraluz777]

I know you recently switched to Bitwig, but I have a question about Ableton Live. In VPS Avenger 1, you could capture midi by setting up a midi-in channel, but it looks like you can’t do this using VPS Avenger 2. Am I mistaken?

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

You can still do the same with V2, same processes

[@jaycastelli2339]

Thank you

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Welcome!

[@klaurcschwackerberg1880]

Avenger 2 update should have been rleleased as a nice new regular free Avenger update ! What were they thinking ? More dollars ?

[@akira20ish]

Agreed I didn’t buy the next one

[@VentureNW]

Did they add MPE and Poly AT support in 2.0? I am not seeing it in the feature list. This would be a hard miss, considering a lot of newer midi devices are going this route.

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Unfortunately not added.

[@VentureNW]

@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE Thank you. Ya, if they added that, it would be hard for any other synth to beat Avenger. The sounds they create it in, alone, is already hard to beat. Imagine is they did at least MPE? Amazing!

[@danieldemayo6209]

Reminds me a lot of Icarus from Tone2. Ima check it out.

[@jerzboybeats]

I’ve been seeing this synth. I used to love Dune. I love Pigments

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

I love pigments too but for me, avenger always has exactly what the track needed

[@FXWS]

Hello from someone who wants to buy Avenger 2. I didn't buy version 1. Questions: Which extensions are included with AV 2 or is there only the Factory Preset 2. Will the old Factory of version 1 also be included?

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

The factory 2 library is included. Not sure about the version 2 library, I had v1 so it shows. Expansions are extra but look at the pick 5 deal on plugin boutique and expansions break down to about 50 each

[@dnalyen]

Avenger is my favorite mega synth although I never bought serum for some reason

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Don’t really need serum if you have avenger

[@dnalyen]

true I agree with you on falcon. It's kind of a pain to use. Their expansions aren't nearly as good as avenger. @@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE

[@magucuma]

Why dont work in fl studio 21? just open black window

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Need to try FL, never touched it yet

[@Schallkoma_Rockenberg]

is it possibe to load the " old " soundpacks into a2 ?

[@delphisignal]

They should load fine. I didn't need to reload my old ones or anything. They stayed there.

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Yup. Everything works

[@Schallkoma_Rockenberg]

@@delphisignal thx :)

[@Schallkoma_Rockenberg]

@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE thx :)

[@dj2bklyn]

the only gripe I have with this update is no midi export outside of the drum track!

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

When you are in the drum sequencer, right click on the lower gray bar, you will see export / import midi. It will export the whole drum sequence.

[@dj2bklyn]

Yea because there are really good arp patterns that could be exported@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE

[@mc2engineeringprof]

You absolutely can export MIDI outside of the drum track. Just create a new midi track after your Avenger track. Then, on that MIDI track, select your Avenger track as your MIDI source. When you record your MIDI track, the arp or sequencer notes played in Avenger will record on your MIDI track. There's a KZbin video on how to do it. It's very easy.

[@dj2bklyn]

@@mc2engineeringprof reason wont do it though

[@issiewizzie]

can avenger output midi .... I want to use the arp in other tracks

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

In the arp you can export the midi file and drop it where ever you would like. It’s under the 3 dash lines in the upper right of the arp

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

You can also route the channel midi in ableton or bitwig to another channel and it will receive the midi from Avengers arp. you should be all set

[@issiewizzie]

Thanks Logic user is midi routable if not can we run avenger in standalone mode . @@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE

[@mc2engineeringprof]

You can actually record the arp or sequence notes as played in a separate MIDI track. In other words: avenger outputs midi. Yes.

[@MediaMusik777]

Instant upgrade and my old packs work too and sound better too

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Awesome!!! I love the new random arp with key lock

[@core1985]

Why is it better than Falcon? Falcon is a Beast too, it has also many very very good Effects and many different Oscillators. From a producers standpoint: are the premade sequences useful for productions or are they more of a gimmick. Is it a good idea to create and sell a track with this predefinded Sequences? Thanks!

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

I think the sequences are great starting points, they are very musical and I usually tweak them to fit the track or the groove. I have falcon, and have used it on my projects by tweaking some presets, but I find the layout and work very very confusing. With avenger, it looks like all the hardware synths i've used, just with much more advanced features, the visual aspect makes it very easy to understand where to go. When I try and start a patch from scratch in Falcon, can't even figure out how to get an oscillator in. I haven't taken the time to dive into the manual, just used and tweaked presets, but its not an inviting workflow from my point of view.

[@core1985]

Thanks@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE I also have Falcon and Avenger (not the new version) and i feel the same. Avenger is much easer to navigate. The possibilities are near endless with Falcon but i wish the UI would be more (!) easier. I think that the sound in Falcon is more cleaner but i created more sounds with Avenger and began to create my own Library.

[@kevrenshaw6177]

There is a lacking flaw in Avenger going back to it first incarnation. You have no way to group all your favourite sounds in one place unless you create a folder yourself and copy and paste the fave sound into it. You might be thinking that's not a bad workaround but once you start owning multiple packs, keeping track of your fave sounds manually becomes really hard. Nexus (related to the same people who make Avenger) have a great section of favourites saved in one spot automatically once you click save as fave. When version 2 came out I thought this simple fix would be sorted but so many great features were added and this wasn't.. Ive stopped using Avenger and wont be buying any more soundpacks. THere are thousands and thousands of sounds and having no way to get to the ones you prefer should be a standard feature. Annoyingly, Ive been banging on to Avenger for ages and give up.

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

I sent this feedback to the company contact I have there. Hopefully they update again. I agree the browser is the biggest weakness

[@ramspencer5492]

You know... What we actually want is to hear a lot more of it. Nothing is going to get me to try a synth more than being impressed by the sound. The tiny bit we heard sounded pretty good... But you already had it set how you wanted it to sound.. I'm not rushing out to demo it, because I didn't hear you tweaking around at all. I didn't get any since of it really... You learn what is synth can do by tweaking with it and hearing what it's like in between all of the finished sounds you're looking for.

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Check out a lot of the audio demos they have on their website, the sound designer behind the synth is one of the most talented Sound designers out there

[@mthomas1091]

“Upgrade” is $121?? 😳

[@Arcessitor]

It's $80 with the current discount. And adding 2 expansiosn worth of content + all functionality

[@SonicVibe]

iOS version?

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

I wish. Maybe someday but right now I think it’s too robust for an IOS version

[@scenesofalife]

My one and only synth would be ANA 2

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

That’s a great sounds synth as well

[@scenesofalife]

@@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE But I've also just got the upgrade from the Avenger. I'm looking forward to more informative videos about this monster 😅

[@Tarbash7364]

Serum is the best synth in the world atm

[@3082frank]

Honestly, nothing beats serum. I love nexus and vps avenger but i am not willing to pay so much money for just 1 expansion. I will stick to serum.

[@akira20ish]

I have version 1

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Still an amazing synth

[@timbeneton8068]

Since its feature rich synth it’s not up there sound-vice. Kinda plastic sounding

[@victoralves5514]

🤡 👎 STILL CPU MONSTER KILL 💩

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

Never had that issue in the M1 Pro max

[@shivbhalla]

Idk man avenger has always been a dud in my opinion. Just a cheap virus ti clone and a sampler. The workflow is clunky and the fm sounds like ass even when oversampled. Even a synth as old as albino 3 blows it out of the water when it comes to fm. The samples are good, I’ll give it that, but you’re better off just getting vengeance packs. And also it does the cheesy gated supersaw trance thing really well. But honestly, with competition like phase plant, serum, vital, pigments and the new current this synth can’t really justify its price point

[@MIDNIGHTCVLT]

Exactly my thoughts

[@Arcessitor]

In literally what way is it a Virus TI clone?

[@mc2engineeringprof]

Dude, this is nothing like the virus other than it has some analog models for oscillators and filters. Guess what? So does just about every other synth plugin created. I wish my TI2 had all of the features and functions that Avenger does. They both do sound great. That's true too.

[@TheBeatG]

​@@MIDNIGHTCVLT I do not agree, if you do not like that is not at all, virus ti costs 3000 dollars avenger 2200 dollars, and avenger is super synth,!

[@MIDNIGHTCVLT]

@@TheBeatG it's not about I don't like it, I like it, it's just it has lots of stuff but none of them is well done like in other synths. The FM sounds bad compared to phase plant, also the granular (the old one at least) doesn't sound as good as the one in phase plant or pigments or current

[@tylerjackson7586]

Ableton graphics are worse than Minecraft haha

[@CREATEEDUCATEINSPIRE]

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Just don’t get ableton graphics looks like a 90s toy !!!