Greenworks 80v Chainsaw vs Stihl Farm Boss 290

[@admirosmankovic1065]

I was running this saw for about 2 hours at about a 30-50% duty cycle kzbin.infoUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and it did a great job. I used the lever for the built in sharpener to clear chip buildup out more than to actually sharpen the chain. It managed to cut some hardwood stumps much larger than it's size without bothering the neighbors with hours of 2 stroke noise.

[@geraldmoore6257]

I’ve changed my view on cutting firewood after 5 months using the Makita. I put a 16” bar on it and also changed to a full chisel chain. Improved speed and functionality. I’m cutting all my firewood with my battery saw now. For those who aren’t familiar with batteries and electrical terms, voltage doesn’t measure power or capacity to do work or chain speed. It does allow the manufacturer to use thiner wires and smaller lighter motors. Amp hours isn't power either, you need both volts and amps and time to calculate power. It appears that most good battery saws draw something around 1000 to 1300 watts. The Greenworks draws 1200 watts at full load. This is about as much as most corded electric saws. (note: corded saws aren't brushless and are less efficient) To get total power multiply the voltage of your saw by the amp hour rating to get watt hours. Watt hours tells you how much potential wood you can cut before needing batteries. Some tool companies use "max" right off the charger. The actual run voltage is always multiples of 3.6V per cell which is the nominal voltage (nom), this must be used to calculate watt hours or power. Switching batteries isn’t a big deal like fueling up with gas, but it's nice not to have to switch, especially if you only have one battery. Since batteries are the expensive part, stick with a single platform and buy a lot of batteries if you're cutting firewood. I happen to already have a rather large collection of Makita LXT batteries and chargers. Here’s some data for comparison that I’ve acquired for those who are interested: Ryobi 40V (36V nom) 5Ah battery weighs 3.05 lbs (32) x (5) = 160 watt hours Briggs & Stratton (Victa) 82Vmax 72V nom 5.7 lbs (72) x (4) = 288 watt hours Husqvarna 36V (nom) 4.2 Ah battery weighs 3.21? lbs (36)x(4.2) = 151 watt hrs Greenworks 72V nom (80 max) 4 Ah battery weighs 5.5 lbs (72)x(4) = 288 watt hrs Greenworks 72V (80 max) 2 Ah battery weighs 2.8 lbs (72)x(2) = 144 watt hrs Milwaukee 18V (nom) 12Ah battery weighs 3.7 lbs. (18)x(12) = 216 watt hrs Makita takes two standard tool batteries of any amp hr rating. They all weigh nearly the same. Two (2) Makita 18V (nom) 6 Ah batteries weigh 2.7 lbs. (2)x(6)x(18) = 216 watt hrs. Makita also runs on 5, 4 and 3 Ah batteries with progressively lower run times with the same approximate weight. (2) x (5) x (18) = 180, (2) x (4) x (18) = 144, and (2) x (3) x (18) = 108 Echo 54V 2Ah weights 2.65 lbs (54) x (2) = 108 watt hrs Echo 54V 4Ah weights 4.1 lbs (54) x (4) = 232 watt hrs Dewalt 54V (nom, not max) 4Ah battery weighs 3.2 lbs (54)x(4) = 216 watt hrs Still with 36V 4.9 Ah battery weighs 3.8lbs (36)x(4.2) = 178 watt hrs Stihl with 36V 6.3 Ah (AP 300) weighs 3.8lbs (36)x(6.3) = 226 watt hrs Redback 120V [108?]3Ah battery weighs 4.0 lbs (108)x(3) = 324 watt hrs EGO 56V 5 Ah battery weighs 4.9 lbs (56) x (5) = 280 watt hrs McCulloch 36V (nom) (36) x (4) = 144 watt hrs Most of these saw brands appear as though they cut equally well during use. My Makita with a 16" bar and full chisel chain it seems to cut about the same as the best I've seen in videos. I take a sack of tool batteries equivalent to about 500 watt hours and cut all that my RZR can safely pull in steep terrain. I cut 9" length, which requires twice the normal amount of cutting for the same amount of firewood. Let's say you're using a Greenworks 4Ah battery that contains 288 watt hours of energy and it draws 1200 watts while under full load. It can maintain full load draw [(60x288)/1200] = for 14.4 minutes. Of course one seldom maintains constant full load in the normal course of cutting wood, so the battery appears to last much much longer than that. I’ve been cutting a lot of big >16” diameter stuff and that burns through 218 watt hours pretty fast. But hey, changing batteries is no big deal, right? If you’re gonna use battery for firewood collection, have a lot of batteries. Fortunately I was already in good shape with batteries and chargers.

[@TheTurbomopar]

I'm still wondering where you can find a DeWalt 4ah 54v battery? Can you share the chain you are using, link or model number Thanks excellent info especially for being from a few yrs ago

[@davidjames4915]

I've never seen a power rating for a cordless electric saw sold in North America. Corded ones usually tell you how many amps they draw, so you can calculate power, but cordless, nope. This is the first time I've ever seen the numbers mentioned. Interestingly, compared to corded saws available in Europe and Asia, cordless saws still have a way to go, powerwise. 220v 10A 2200W saws seem to be reasonably common in Europe, which is about 50% more than the corded saws running on North America's anemic 120v 15A standard supply. But the prizes go to those available in Asia: 2.8kW, 3.2kW, 3.6kW chainsaws (best have a 240v 20A available for these beasts), which is well into the power range of many gas saws. I even found one claiming to be a 6.8kW 20" chainsaw, which would need a 30A supply! I think this one of the 3kW+ models (16" bar) in action: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKTbc2Sogsx4iKc But Asia isn't done yet: I found some beasty cordless chainsaws as well: a 2.8kW cordless chainsaw that would run on a pair of 18v Makita batteries, and a 3kW model but sadly just 10 or 12" bars.

[@geraldmoore6257]

@@davidjames4915 I doubt a pair of LXT Makita batteries will output 2.8kW. Each LXT has 10 each 18650 cells.

[@mmodnao]

Great post. Thank you.

[@javoxir_100daraja]

I learned from you, thank you

[@allanwells4886]

Love the battery saws! Have used Stihls, Dolmars, chinese 2-stroke saws etc since 1980. Bought a little 40v saw a couple of years ago; instant start, very quiet (no ear muffs required); love it!!! That cant hook looks great

[@reidgloden]

I just bought that Greenworks 80 volt cordless electric chainsaw. It works very well. I love it. I have already been using it several times. I will NEVER go back to gas. Greenworks is the brand. I no longer have to use hand saws either. This is the best chainsaw I have ever owned. It is no hassle.

[@createthisdotcom]

Glad you like it. I like mine a lot too.

[@kennethkirkham2471]

Had 2 trees blow down across my fence and drive. At 13 degrees outside my Echo CS400 took a few pulls to get going and I was able to buck up the trees and clear the fence and drive. I went online and bought a Greenworks 16" chainsaw because I really like the less vibration and weight for the small jobs I have. Besides, once I passed 70 years old that gas powered saw gets more difficult to start in cold weather. I like the idea that I can keep the battery powered saw in my rig without gasoline smells.

[@superapex2128]

Having to wrestle with my gas-powered chainsaw to start and keep it from chocking is PRECISELY why I'm looking into battery powered ones!

[@createthisdotcom]

I don’t know what you’re on about, but it doesn’t seem relevant, so I’m deleting it.

[@mattlawton4715]

@@createthisdotcom I bought the 16inch ego56volt it's very good also like that 80 volt⚡greenworks great video I enjoyed watching 👍

[@mattlawton4715]

Ego greenworks deawalt all very good saws hop this helps 👍

[@b0kken]

I currently own the 80v Lawn mower, weed eater, leaf blower, and single stage snow thrower. The smaller batteries (2.0Ah) charge in 30 min. The snow thrower came with a 4.0Ah battery and that takes a full hour to charge. The greenworks people have been very good to work with, recently one of my smaller batteries died and they replaced it right away thru the mail.

[@corygriffiths4394]

I’m getting the 10 inch Greenworks saw I just got the little one because I just mainly cut branches not regular size trees that I leave to the professionals

[@dandahermitseals5582]

Excellent review. Helluva tree to test on. I'm from the forrests and we all know a Kant and a Peevy are standard required tools. Enjoy the mechanical advantage and safety of a great tool. Green horns never know about traditional tools. You have done a credible and encouraging demonstration. In my 70s with a lot of hard miles on a busted up old body. Looking foward to leaving my Stihls and Huskies sitting. Thanks for your effort. Well done.

[@kimchee94112]

I Have the Kobalt 80V 18" chainsaw, same as Greenwork. I have 5 batteries and 4 chargers so no issue with run time.

[@corygriffiths4394]

Did you get it from Lowe’s

[@driverjamescopeland]

13:03 "First lockup" / "pretty common thing" Your chain is too tight, and/or you're loading the saw too much. Give the chain some slack, and back off the load. Let the saw do the work.

[@rcguymike]

Idk if it was mentioned already but the 4AH battery makes a huge increase in performance for the Greenworks. Probably makes it about as heavy as the Stihl then. Love mine, never going back to gas OPE!

[@lavishlex]

How do you feel about greenworks other 40v line

[@rcguymike]

@@lavishlex Not really enough potential power, light duty stuff is probably fine but if you're looking for actual gas equivalent tools 60V is probably the minimum. Otherwise you'd need 2 or more batteries in parallel. Lower voltage = more current, more current = more heat and less longevity

[@TheWadetube]

For thick logs a gas saw will make more cuts, however for logs of six inches or smaller the electric is going to outshine in it's zero drain down time between cuts. Make a hundred small cuts with the electric and 100 with the gas and you will see what I mean, the gas saw has to keep running or if you do set it down to turn it off it can be difficult to restart and so will add time to your work load. But for one long hard cut it is a heavy drain on the battery pack to just keep running under a heavy load, whereas the load on the gas saw does not significantly reduce the amount of saw time.

[@kobelcofan]

I use stihl equipment at work and I can tell you that after a long day at work pulling a rope is the last thing I want to do when I come home. It sure would be nice to just pull a trigger to get the equipment going even if I have to sacrifice a bit of power.

[@jeffpescinski8374]

I have an older 40 volt greenworks. I am pretty handicapped. Using electric is nice for me. The vibration of gas saws can wear you out. I haven't used my stihl in years. I have 3 batteries, so I can cut for a good hour or more. I throw the saw on my 4 wheeler a lot when hunting, to cut up trees in my way etc. I cut 3-4 core of wood every year.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

I have a older model and it seems to work much better, I am a framer and I can cut a hole floor worth of joist with one battery I have the 18" model and my oil fill is in a different spot. my batteries also charge in 15-20 max. I believe these newer chainsaws are not as good, I have 2 batteries and with one always charging I never have to wait for a battery. I also like the video mate.

[@createthisdotcom]

+Going Off Grid hmm. First I've heard of this. Interesting.

[@createthisdotcom]

+Going Off Grid I know the battery lasts longer cutting smaller diameter wood. It's possible floor joists are substantially easier to cut because less wood is in contact with the teeth at any given time.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

was the wood you used super hard ? when I cut joist its 12" buy a lift so 5 feet long and thats one thrid a floor to half a floor depending on house size si about 12" by 15 feet and my battery is about dead at the end.

[@createthisdotcom]

+Going Off Grid I can't split those rounds by hand with my 8 lb maul. I don't know if it's because the wood is hard or what. It's butternut, which has a low btu content, but maybe it's hard on saws.

[@aldesrochers]

createthis.. Dont forget that the Stihl 290 is 57cc and they sell the Greenworks as the equivalent of a 45cc.. I got the first model of the 80 volt chainsaw and it`s going still strong after 4 years.. I cut in average 20 cords each year and I bought a second battery to go trough enouf wood for a day in the forest..

[@ozarkprepper1718]

I have a small tree service.In the early hours I use a Makita cordless top handle saw.When the batteries go dead I fire up the stihl 192 or echo cs3000 until the batteries recharge.Its really nice up in a bucket.I can communicate with the ground guy much better.

[@allensanders4204]

I bought the GW 40 volt 14 inch saw for limbing trees and brush. Its light enough to cut one handed if on a ladder. It came with a 2ah battery and runtime wasnt great. Bought a second 5 ah battery which cost more than the saw with battery and charger. I Could run for an hour working my way through multiple oaks, hackberry and sycamore trees thinning 1" to 3" limbs and branches out of live trees. I used it to cut firewood out of 4" to 8" limbs . I often got more runtime than I needed for the job so I rarely used the 2ah battery . IMO , it was as good as my Stihl MS 170 gas for power and will be buying another, especially since some dirtbag took it off the truck while I was inside a gas station getting a drink coming home from a job.

[@cameranmanner4701]

i have a 40v GW myself running a 4amp battery and it last for a long time and with multiple batteries i never really worry about running out. If you look at the 80V GW battery, it's only 2amps and is a snug fit to the chainsaw. How much bigger can you make the 80v battery before exceeding the case size? I think the limitation could be 3 or maybe 4 amps and the higher amps with 80v the higher the cost for these batteries. I don't really see a financial benefit to these 80v systems

[@chrisw5742]

I have a pacemaker so I cannot run gas chainsaws. I wanna get me one of those 18" bar Greenworks saws. And also a Silky Katanaboy 1000. Just bought the Silky Hayate pole saw and a Corona 14" hand saw. Both are incredible.

[@pokeyposquito9072]

I cut all day with a pacemaker

[@sofjanmustopoh7232]

For most homeowners Corded chainsaws with 100 foot 12 gauge extension cord Beat cheap chainsaw who break and won’t start after awhile Just take your time I owned 26 rental properties And have husqvarna and Stihl chain saw But the Worx corded pole saw , Jawsaw and small electric chainsaw get lots of use The cordless one is a bit more expensive because of the battery But in a few years the price should come way down Good and great video Yeah those hook are great

[@curtchase3730]

Great job there! You really pushed that cordless saw to the max. It's really designed as a pruning and limbing saw. We have a local tree cutting guy that does it all in which I suggested he look into a small cordless saw to use up in the trees to prune and cut off smaller limbs. He says naa, I'll stick to my hard to start stinky loud gasser! I watch him like 60 feet up in a big tree, all roped up yanking on the gas saw to start it and then the thing is like inches from his head! I don't get it. You can get an inverter and charge up a spare battery in the truck. Whatever.

[@sunrisevalley_vt]

I wouldn't say it's a "pruning and limbing saw". The 24v, 40v, or 48v could be considered that. But I've cut 9 cords this year with my Greenworks 80v.

[@joe1071]

@@sunrisevalley_vt 18” 80v pruning saw? lol. I just picked one up and plan to run it hard like you. Glad to hear it can hold up too heavy duty cutting

[@shawndubay4050]

Great test. I have an echo Dcs5000 eforce with the 18" bar. I have it for storm damage, smaller jobs and if a tree ices over and falls in the winter when my gas saws have been drained/ winterized. Kind of a grab and GO RIGHT NOW GO GO GO saw without all the extra stuff. Bar Oil, saw with a charged battery in it. Two backup batteries in a backpack, sweatshirt between the two batteries so they don't bang together and it's go time.

[@bobcath5067]

Nice review you didn't cut dead rotten wood like everyone else does

[@isaacnewton8563]

please, is stihl msa 160c-be compareable with greenworks 80v that you test right now?

[@blackbiker1961]

I happen to own the same saw, in my opinion, it will rival any gas saw in its class. When I purchased this saw I moved to a new home with trees on 5 acres some dying some dead and needed trimming this saw handle the ones I could do with no problem. And I didn't have to worry about buying fuel, mixing and trying to use the fuel before it gets old, I will never but a gas power chain saw. The noise level is low no fumes no ripcord, release the safety, and get busy.

[@nukestrom5719]

I have greenworks mower, string trimmer and looking to buy a chainsaw. I really like them.

[@taztally]

Very useful comparison. I now have a much better understanding of the advantages and limitations of the Greenworks 80V chainsaw. Nice intro to the use of the log cant as well. Thank you!

[@JustcallmeJayrot]

Great video. Somehow kind of relaxing to watch

[@createthisdotcom]

+JustcallmeJayrot glad you liked it. I was promptly stung on the head by a wasp after filming, so I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. ;)

[@calebmarchent5152]

Really good review - especially some details like the note on the bite of the log grip sharpness.

[@rm25088]

im considering getting the greenworks for my uncle for christmas. He just does yard clean up and random yard work and i think it would be a good saw for that. What do you think? He always gets pissed at his gas saws.

[@createthisdotcom]

It’s an excellent saw. No complaints.

[@rm25088]

@@createthisdotcom right now on amazon i found it for $200 bucks with 2.0 battery and charger. It is the same version as this one and not the brand new one but i am ok with that. It will be here today. I am going to also be getting the 4.0 battery.

[@williamneal2166]

Impressive for a battery unit considering the size of the tree. Most people will be using this, including myself, for much less stout cutting. AND it does not stall

[@1976kinggoldenflair]

My 80 volt Greenworks saw came with a 18 inch saw blade and chain. My 40 volt Greenworks saw came with a 16 inch chainsaw blade and chain. The 80 volt will perform much better with the 18 inch set up. I like mine, but am looking at the new Milwaukee M18 Fuel saw with a 18volt 12. amp battery. I have slowly been buying more of the Milwaukee products. I will still use my Green Works tools till the batteries wear out.

[@wanderingsailor5503]

It's the vibrations from gas chainsaws that wear on the body. Also, the added difficulty in starting them.

[@banalMinuta]

Five pounds can add up if youre out cuttin all day 0:54

[@ourstate100]

My solution to charging away from the grid is to use my 750 watt inverter on the 12v battery in a vehicle to charge my Ego saw at 500watts and then you can just swap 2 battery’s all day.

[@edlibey8177]

Have you sharpened the chain? Are chains and bars readily available?

[@benhoshor5769]

Fair evaluation between gas vs battery. As a homeowner and casual user I'm probably going to get a battery. However it is worth mentioning having an extra battery is going to cost another 125-150 bucks. Even with $5 gal 2022 gas that's still 30 - 1 gallon cans. Not sure how long the battery life expectation is but over the long term it seems a definite increased investment. Yes, there is engine maintenance to consider on gas. Over the lifetime of each saw it may come close to being a wash? Definitely the power still goes to the gas.

[@createthisdotcom]

The batteries last way more than 30 cycles. Usually they last about 300. You can use the same battery in your trimmer and cultivator too.

[@benhoshor5769]

@@createthisdotcom, as a retired guy I'm buying one as I already own an 80v trimmer and a pole saw. Both work great. Owning a Stihl saw is a little hard to part with but I'm not sawing nearly as much now. I could tackle anything with the Stihl. Thanks for your video as it illustrated what I wanted to know.

[@JimmysTractor]

I also got 4 cuts, but it was on a 15in pine log and my saw was the Greenworks 60V. I didn't see it in your description, but can you add in the time it took for the full cuts for the GW vs Stihl? Couldn't tell for sure with the sped up video. Just trying to estimate effective hp when compared to electric. I got 14 14in-15in cuts with the Greenworks 60V 5ah battery. I wish GW gave specs on kW with their saws.

[@trickdawg5521]

I bought a 40v pole saw along with a trimmer and chainsaw. Not really impressed with the chainsaw or trimmer but the pole saw rules. I might add that for the money they are all well worth having.

[@murman229]

Conclusion of extensive gasoline vs battery chainsaw video: Cant hooks are awesome! Buy yourself a cant hook.

[@createthisdotcom]

Pretty much

[@chrisw5742]

@@createthisdotcom You can get a cant cant you? :-P

[@robertbustos5423]

Where is the Wrench located on the Greenworks Saw?

[@ShasCho]

Good comparison. BTW, if you roll the log TOWARDS yourself you can use your weight to pull down on the cant hook rather than doing the weight-lifter trick. Much easier.

[@createthisdotcom]

huh. I'll try that. thanks for the tip!

[@javoxir_100daraja]

How many hours of continuous sawing is the battery power of an 80 V battery saw

[@createthisdotcom]

Minutes not hours. It’s been a while since I made this video, but I’d say somewhere in the 15-30 minute range with the 2ah battery.

[@javoxir_100daraja]

@@createthisdotcom So voltage (V) doesn't matter, current (A) does, right?

[@createthisdotcom]

Power (watts) is calculated by multiplying voltage and amperage together. So yes, voltage matters. However, I think you’re commenting on an 80v system, so voltage is already set and is known. Amperage is determined on the fly based on what you are cutting. So, yes and no, depending on how you look at it. 😆

[@javoxir_100daraja]

@@createthisdotcom Thanks for the quick replies,Bless you. 😀

[@gunargundarson1626]

I love my green works chainsaw 60v, however I hope there’s an option to change the bar to something with more bite (like you mentioned it lacks a firmer bite than the stihl).

[@harleybroadwater]

Well done young Ron Swanson

[@NormanMcGregor]

I am shocked at your battery performance of only 4 cuts! I have a 40VDC GreenWorks Saw and I get between 85 and a 100 cuts of 16 inch logs. HUMMMMMMMMM!

[@electriccuts]

Maybe it's not brushless...

[@peterpan686]

Pry has old 2.0ah 80 battery 5.0ah is expensive

[@electriccuts]

@@peterpan686 just get the 60 volt snapper 4Ah battery and retrofit it they are 60 bucks at walmart.

[@michaelbamber4887]

Battery life gets better after a few charges, tells you that in the instructions, all battery tools are the same. I found my makita 6amp run longer after 6-7 charges, first time it lasted about as well as the 4amp.

[@chuckbrown8344]

@@electriccuts How do you retrofit to greenworks?

[@JimmysTractor]

You've got the type of videos I like to watch! Why the long break? I'm trying to get some real world numbers on the 60V vs 80V. With the 300wh battery, I can get it to 0 with 7 minutes of cutting. That's with a standard low profile(not skip) chain. Would love to know the actual time on those 4 cuts done with the 80V GW.

[@createthisdotcom]

I don’t know really. I got a new job and I think I just burned out a little on video making. Plus KZbin is upping the corporate dick factor and actively demonitizing my smaller channels. It’s kinda ruining my motivation.

[@JimmysTractor]

createthis I feel your pain on that one. The lastn30 days is the first time in 6 years I've been without ads/monetization not a fortune, but I don't know anyone that wouldn't miss $6k. I've met the requirements and will be back in within a month. That said, why not merge your channels? You can obviously make a good video that gets views- That's the hard part. I didn't realize until last month what all those direct deposits added up to, but at way over $100 for each hour spent, it's worth keeping up with their shenanigans. I'm tearing mine down for the next video and I'm going to clamp a meter on to get amperage draw while going through thick oak. After that, mounting the saw to my bike frame(I bet it gets me to 25mph?) with a remote trigger should pay for the rest of the saw. Keep making awesome vids. If you haven't, check out #iamacreator

[@douglasthompson2740]

How much for the batteries and how long do they really last? Very important info. Happy New Year. Doug

[@kobelcofan]

I have a Ryobi 18v brushless chainsaw and a Husqvarna 16'' gas chainsaw. I love the little cordless saw so much that I am thinking about getting a greenworks 60v or 80v. There is an 18'' version of each. I am not sure which would be a better choice.

[@markharris2539]

Should have mentioned battery Amp-Hour rating. Also having 2 batteries solves the recharge wait.

[@96cr]

Not if they get too hot and hit the thermal protection

[@scrapplepig]

I don't know how you only got 5-6 cuts with the stihl saw. You should of had that whole log cut plus another on one tank.

[@TheRayMaynard]

That's what I was thinking. I have a little Stihl 024 that weighs less and would have cut up that tree on a tank of gas.

[@MackLife87]

got a craftmens from lowes, still in box im bout to take back for this....hope i dont regret bit i have two 80v batteries already for my greenworks lawn n weed eater

[@MrSGL21]

i got into the power works 60v system about 3 years ago. powerworks is greenworks with diffrent colors and a slightly altered battery case. i got a snapper 60 v mower (power works rebranded for snapper) then the power works chain saw and then power works put their brushed pole saw and weed eater on sale. i got those too all with batterues. picked up 3 green works batts at a thrift for $80 and modded them to fit my power works gear.

[@MackLife87]

@@MrSGL21 wow good deal, electric the way to go, im loving the ease of use

[@rich.trails]

If you have big logs like this to cut, get the 4ah battery. The 2ah is getting really stressed, shown by how it was too hot to charge. I use 2ah on my string trimmer and small blower jobs, but the 4ah is more powerful for demanding work. I cut 60 lawns a week with GW 80v. Thinking about getting the chainsaw.

[@createthisdotcom]

+Rich H not a bad idea. I may try that.

[@bombebomb]

60 lawns a week? How often do you kill a battery (no longer holds most of its charge)? That is some serious lawn mowing for a battery I am impressed.

[@dschwep7]

Great review video - Thanks !

[@pavelkushnarov]

was it 2, 3 or 5mAh battery?

[@slpip]

It sucks when you can't start a Stihl chainsaw and only 4 cuts per tank of gas. That is why I got a 24" Husky 460 Rancher, one tank can go much longer than Stihl. Would like to get a Greenwork 18" Pro with a 4 Ah battery or a Milwaukee M18 Fuel Brushless 16", but I prefer a 18" bar.

[@createthisdotcom]

Eh. With ethanol blends I think it’s becoming pretty common. The gas tends to go bad faster and gum up carbs.

[@russiarocksussucks377]

How do you know you own a Stihl. You wear yourself out trying to get them cranked. Never seen a Stihl ever start on the first pull. Ever.

[@mikepatterson57]

Mine Floods Easy!!!;-((( 20yrs old tho;-)

[@thefirewooddoctor]

For a log that big, I'd bring out my Husqvarna 390xp. My little gasoline top-handle chainsaw can do three small diameter pine trees that measure 6in DBH limbed and bucked up for firewood, 45cc generic Chinese chainsaw can do maybe six trees, and the 390xp can do eight trees before needing fuel. Really want to get one of these chainsaws, then charge it off of a solar panel system. With he Greenworks charging, that will give me plenty of time to chip the brush and stack the firewood.

[@Imwright720]

How long a chain stays sharp shouldn’t matter whether it’s electric Or gas. Unless you are forced to use their chain and it’s sucks. I rarely need a chain saw but when my poulan dies I’ll go electric. Makes more sense for me. Mostly palm trees here. They cut even with a dull chain.

[@joeharmon9230]

I would like to know how much longer the greenworks would have lasted if the battery was a 80v 4.0 AH instead of the 2.0 AH

[@createthisdotcom]

Possibly more than twice as long due to the 4ah handling high amp draws better. It’s heavy though.

[@joeharmon9230]

@@createthisdotcom thanks

[@thefisherman6000_USA]

Bad review. Why would you fast forward the cutting process? I want to see and hear the power of each one.

[@corygriffiths4394]

I’m getting the 10 inch Greenworks saw I don’t need a big one because I’m not cutting regular size trees more branches than anything I’m not experienced whenever it comes to cutting trees so that’s why the regular size trees I leave to the professionals.

[@ProfessorDIY]

What battery are you using?

[@createthisdotcom]

2ah 80v greenworks

[@riversdirect]

Great video. Thanks for all the good information.

[@Howdidy]

Mine lasted 2 hours on a charge.Start with a freshly charged battery.And I saw 4.5 cuts.

[@rcguymike]

That looks like the 60v saw that they modified to run the 80V batteries...If you've got the cash you should review the original 80V saw!

[@AZBADBOYz]

If the Greenworks saw had their 4.0 Ah battery the run time would be double and from the looks of it, cut more than the gas saw. Nice side by side test! Most homeowners won't be dropping or cutting stuff that large anyway.

[@createthisdotcom]

+AZBADBOYz I've read the 4.0ah battery messes with the balance of the saw, but yes, it does go twice as long.

[@thefirewooddoctor]

createthis The 4.0ah battery is also really expensive compared to the 2.0ah battery.

[@claytonblachly4031]

Im a home owner and i run a 87 cc saw with a 24 or 28 in bar

[@bigtexas7580]

*If you use your equipment for a living you can't compare gas power equipment to battery powered because the runtime of battery and true power and torque don't compare to gas operated equipment that is properly tuned and running good, period.*

[@metalmicky]

Can you measure the fuel cost comparison ? the gas saw will cost far more in fuel energy ,charging the electric costs will be be minimal although both have their place ,if you had access to mains power would you use a corded saw?

[@createthisdotcom]

It’s probably cents (electric) vs dollars (gas). I haven’t calculated this personally, but I did write a calculator for gas vs electric vehicles. You can check that out and it should give you a good idea what the cost savings are like: www.mpgecost.com

[@Datsun7705]

This is why i would get a gas chainsaw but other garden tools would be electric

[@palehorse1021]

I guess it depends on how much you use it.

[@Datsun7705]

Pale Horse yeah you know in florida hurricanes knock trees down every year

[@KiloWattRC]

Just get the kobolt 80v 18" chainsaw from lowes, it's the exact same saw. In fact my kobolt batteries works in my greenworks 80v leaf blower. I got mine chainsaw for 230$ and got a extra free battery though rebate, took 5 days to arrive. When using saw other is charging, the only time I waste is walking to the charger which takes the same amount of time to fuel a gas powered saw.

[@leelantern805]

wow 4 cuts man let's see I cut 4 cords each year so yeah I'm sold ..lol

[@cameranmanner4701]

and his 6 cuts from gas, whats the difference?

[@MrSGL21]

@@cameranmanner4701 don't forget the noise, air polution, and the jerking off the gas saw to get it running.

[@TheWadetube]

Bring a spare battery, check the amp hour rating. I want one soooo bad. I hate gas saws, they do not work for me. I didn't know there was an 80 volt version. I saw the 60 volt version cut up an entire 10 inch tree with two trunks. But I agree, I would like the 18 inch bar.

[@stevewarrington8992]

Why speed up the video when you're cutting?

[@createthisdotcom]

Usually people are annoyed when I display something boring like a screwdriver screwing in a screw. So I usually either cut it or speed it up. This was the one time people really really wanted to see the comparison in detail. It makes sense, I just didn’t see it coming. Sorry. I’ll try to keep it in mind next time I do a chainsaw video. Merry Christmas! Thanks for watching.

[@jonienglish3231]

Greenworks looks like better than Dewaly 60v Ave took apart the Dewat - the Chain Bar Did not have bolts to adjust but PLASTIC RATCHET KNOB !!!!!!!!! WTF were DEWALT Thinking Good Review !!! Maybe Review 80v String trimmer

[@gdeisig]

What is the model number on your 80v greenworks? I haven't seen that one for sale online anywhere.

[@createthisdotcom]

I’ve got a direct link to the 80v chainsaw in the description of the video. Thanks!

[@gdeisig]

createthis, sorry I missed that. But I tried the US and UK links, and the US link is broken. And the UK link shows the 18 inch older style saw? Not the 16 inch with the oiler in the front like yours has. I can't find the saw on greenworks website either. The links are also broken. It's weird, your saw looks just like the 60v model, but you have the 80v. I haven't been able to find this model for sale anywhere. Wonder what's going on with greenworks website?

[@createthisdotcom]

Weird. I’m seeing the same thing. Maybe they discontinued it or they’re in the middle of a model update.

[@gdeisig]

createthis, that's exactly my thoughts. Our 80v has the on/off button right behind the battery, the oil tank is on the left side but the fill is straight up and it has a viewing window, and the bar is 18 inches, and the handle is metal. Is your handle metal or plastic?

[@createthisdotcom]

Metal

[@rogersthilaire8179]

Good vid ... nice comparison no bias honest .. Good job ...

[@AndrewBrowner]

the batterys prefer to do more on/off work not a straight full pull from full to dead like this, they heat up and get less efficient, if you were bucking like8 inch logs or felling trees i think theyd come out equal.. real test though is if the extra battery is charged before the first one is dead

[@AndrewBrowner]

also if you were going out to get a load of logs you could bring a deep cycle battery and small inverter to charge the batterys, bit heavier than a jug of gas but not too much

[@createthisdotcom]

Exploring this idea a bit: The Yeti 1000 lithium would be capable of charging these batteries and only weighs 40lbs: [affiliate] amzn.to/2ke2MFs The Greenworks 2ah battery has a 144wh capacity, as I show in this chart: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHa1ZnavZZiNpKcm45s So you would probably get about 6 charges out of the Yeti 1000 lithium. Alternatively, I demonstrate using a Yamaha EF2000is to charge these batteries here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHa1ZnavZZiNpKcm1s The Yamaha EF2000isV2 weighs about 50 lbs with a full tank of gas, so it's quite a bit heavier than the Yeti 1000 lithium. However, if you do the math, it runs 8-10 hours in economy mode on a single tank. You get about two charges per hour using the Greenworks 2ah battery. So you end up with 16 - 20 charges. That's at least 10 more charges for just 10 extra lbs of weight. You can add another gallon of gas in about a minute, vs the 18 hr (!!!) wall recharge rate of the Yeti 1000 lithium. I have no idea why they don't put higher wattage charges on those things. It's ridiculous. Combining a fuel efficient generator and this chainsaw is probably quite a bit more fuel efficient than a gas saw by itself, but A.) you're still using gas and B.) it'll be quite a bit heavier and have more components to lug around.

[@JimmysTractor]

Andrew Browner definitely makes a difference. If you switch to a skip chain on 12"+ logs, it kind of does that for you in keeping down the high amp draw. I got through about 15% more wood with the skip chain. IMHO not worth taking 50% longer to cut.

[@JimmysTractor]

10:58 try running a file once or twice across the little hump links that keep the profile low- sorry about my nomenclature. I just realized you have an 80V that looks exactly like my 60 and its 16in rather than 18in. Other 80V GW saws I've seen had an 18in bar and aluminum handle.

[@danshobbies13]

That starting problem is why I’m looking into going electric. My Farm Boss never wants to start.

[@createthisdotcom]

Having dealt with a lot of carburetors since I made this video, I think that’s usually a combination of gas type (ethanol) and user error (not draining the float bowl before storage, not using a gas stabilizer, etc). However, it’s clear electric requires less thought and work to keep running. I’m still loving my greenworks batteries. They’re pretty great.

[@gkk2001]

Your video was good but with one huge mistake: that being not showing the actual cutting with the Greenworks saw. I really would like to see that. Maybe an inconsequential thing but still would like to see it.

[@xpltd1]

Bar and chain like $60 us. Saw looks fine

[@afleetcommand]

Two things come to mind watching this.... having to speed up the video speed when using the green saw is..telling. And I like the concept of those class saws. And there is constant development in that area.. next few years will be really interesting. Hoping you do follow up video's on the subject. Might want to look at some of the Stihl & Husqvarna offerings over this next couple of years. Second....while not a "safety" nut, to me giving advise about chainsaws to those in the business...in shorts... is a qualifier as well. :) (You asked for feed back! Put the reaction here in the comments..:) )

[@createthisdotcom]

I sped it up for the Stihl too. Just trying not to bore people too much.

[@xpltd1]

Pretty sure the farm boss 290 is old and out of production.

[@tommavrakos]

A solar charger and 3 battery packs.seems the best choice

[@abrahamghannam2137]

It’s a larger cut with a gas saw and you just went through a huge knot

[@bodgaard]

“Now let’s try the gas saw”, pull, pull, pull, pull, pull,pull, pull, start, stall, pull pull…….. This is why we’re looking at gas. The electric isn’t intended for this type of cutting, but for the occasional branch that falls down or trimming some limbs all without the hassle of gas or pull-starting, an electric is definitely in my near future……..

[@benscoles5085]

I know I do things a bit different, You mention about the log dogs being a little sharper on the stihl, than the green works, I remove them from my saws, that way I can run the saw up against the tree trunk , it glides though smoother and faster, also gives you that extra 1/2 to 1 inch bar length, those dogs are, too me, useful when felling, but serve no real purpose when bucking. One other thing I like, is your near comical attitude about things that ''just are not quite perfect'', that attitude keeps you from getting mad and not enjoying what you are doing

[@danerose575]

The whole point of a video is to watch how much time it takes to make a cut. By speeding that up the video goes out of it's way to avoid demonstrating both a comparison of cuttings speed and give a sense of cutting time on the Greenworks.

[@createthisdotcom]

That wasn’t the point of the video. The point of the video was to compare battery life vs gas usage. Cut times were similar.

[@danerose575]

@@createthisdotcom I should have been more specific: My whole point of watching the video was to understand if there was enough power compared to my own gas saw that I want to replace. I need to see wood cut in real time to assess that and it seemed odd to have that most useful bit sped up to make that impossible to determine.

[@farmbossmikey1350]

i stay with gas saws for bigger trees on my farm

[@mmodnao]

Ah, the good ol cant hook: the tool used by 2% of chainsaw owners, while the remaining 98% wonder why they need to resharpen their chains every 10 minutes in the field.

[@andrejobin3810]

The only downside is the cost of spare batteries

[@JeepBoiFL]

2A Battery is way too anemic. The newer 4A or 5A will make a world of difference. I run a Greenworks 25" self-propelled mower and my 4A battery cuts the entire yard (about a half-hour).

[@josephcollins3447]

Part of a comparison is to watch the cutting difference. And you have a dud battery, they never run out so fast.

[@createthisdotcom]

I’m pretty sure it’s not a bad battery. Everyone is telling me the gas saw should last longer too. It’s the tree, I think. Refuses to split easily too. Something odd about it.

[@josephcollins3447]

I did some research. Some batteries will show full power lights when they are half or more flat. So it's possible it was not fully charged. If the fuel and battery ran out in a few cuts, then the blades might be very blunt and you're therefore waiting (and pushing hard) for it to cut, rather than letting the blade do the cutting, or it's as you say the tree. If it's full of knots, the saw will need to cut a lot longer or need to be higher CC/powerful to cut faster. Lastly, I am jealous. How much could you post one to NZ for me? :)

[@pavelkushnarov]

@@createthisdotcom was it 2, 3 or 5mAh battery?

[@atlas3863]

If you bought a STHIL MS 290 farm boss for Harvey homeowner use you bought way too much saw For what you need especially if you’re OK with an electric saw making 4 cuts and then taking a several hour break Versus a saw that will cut wood all day with exception to fuel ups. Electric might be OK for the average Joe living out in the suburbs maintaining his/hers postage stamp size lot. but gas is king when it comes to acreage or A decent sized lot with lots of trees.

[@abrahamghannam2137]

What do you do when you’re in the forest plug into the nearest tree

[@createthisdotcom]

There are solar generators and gas generators to recharge batteries, but probably a gas chainsaw is a better idea in that use case.

[@andrewjackson244]

why the hell wouldn't you track the time it took to cut for each saw?!

[@jek539]

Why if thru the most important part? I wanted to see it cut in real time...

[@williambradshaw1874]

Electricity is way cheaper than gas. So electric chainsaw wins hands down.

[@palehorse1021]

4 cuts from one tank of gas? I have cut 4 trees on a tank of gas. Now on the battery. Was it fully charged the 1st time?

[@drewharlvorsen9322]

What does battery saw cost and extra battery ?

[@grizzkid795]

That's with a new battery, so the performance will gradually decline over time.

[@cros13]

Barely... usually a lithium ion battery that's well treated will last 1500 charge cycles or more. By that point you've paid several times over for a new battery in avoided cost of fuel.

[@grizzkid795]

But I think the length of run time will gradually decrease with each charge. For most people working around the house it's probably not a big deal, but if you are away from electricity it might be.

[@cros13]

@@grizzkid795 I own one of the commercial 82V greenworks chainsaws for use on my farm. Generally you'll see people using these for commercial/farm work would have more than one battery, that way either you you have enough power to do a decent amount of work away from a power source or you have one battery charging while you continue work with the other. I have quite a lot of forestry, much of it far away from farm buildings, if I'm using the chainsaw for more than the hour or so of work two batteries will do... I'll usually have my electric car with me and have one of the batteries charging from the car while I'm using the other.

[@grizzkid795]

Yeah, those. esaws are great little saws. Several of our volunteer trail workers are using them with good success, but they leave the big stuff and the more remote stuff for me to take care of with a gas saw. I can run a 24 inch bar, cut a lot more on one tank of gas, and an extra container full of gas weighs 1 lb 5 oz. An extra battery weighs 3 lb. I also lose a pound of weight for every tank of gas I go through. I also spent a lot more on my saw and my hearing isn't the greatest!