Creating a Boost Converter WITHOUT a Microcontroller

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@rodrigo_dm
@rodrigo_dm 6 жыл бұрын
Minutes into the video and i can already tell you that "We can create circuits without a microcontroller, but usually that does not make a whole lot of sense!" is my favorite show in the internet. the oposite show would be amazing as well. great video as always
@Archeious
@Archeious 6 жыл бұрын
There are so many projects out there that use a microcontroller when not necessary. e.g., Turning a light on when a switch to throw. I have seen this done with an MC and it made me cry.
@araibirshad8294
@araibirshad8294 6 жыл бұрын
Jeff Smith lol same. its this arduino raspberry stuff thats caused this to happen. i shake my head when i see such stuff
@JoeCharlieH
@JoeCharlieH 6 жыл бұрын
For example: normal switch mode pc power suplies have an PWM controler IC instead of a mC to keep stable all the output voltajes
@vylbird8014
@vylbird8014 6 жыл бұрын
It annoys me too, but the converse is often true as well: Sometimes putting a 'trivial' microcontroller in a circuit can replace a couple of 4000 series chips. It feels wrong, but it's the simplest and cheapest way. Did it myself when I adapted a car alternator to be powered by a bicycle -drive - I could have generated the required field coil drive using a few analog components, but it had a lower part count to just use an atmega.
@KACPER050599
@KACPER050599 6 жыл бұрын
By using microcontrollers you can easily add new features and change parameters without changing any external components (PWM LED driver for example). Nevertheless, in mostly power supply designs, dedicated IC's are still in use. The biggest advantage in dedicated power IC's is continuous feedback loop (ADC in uC needs some time to measure the voltage, then some time is needed to calculate things and change pulse width on the output). But yes, microcontrollers destroyed old "good" elecronics in some way.
@andrewferg8737
@andrewferg8737 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! It's not that folks don't like micro controllers, but rather they want to learn how the discrete components work before they use an IC. Like making a timer circuit from transistors instead of using a 555 just to see how it works... Once we understand the principle than we can use an IC to make the project easier.
@davidhenry7946
@davidhenry7946 3 ай бұрын
exactly
@ELECTRONOOBS
@ELECTRONOOBS 6 жыл бұрын
Such a nice basic tutorial. And the output looks very stable so good feedback! Keep up!
@Mateo-vl3zv
@Mateo-vl3zv 6 жыл бұрын
Electronoobs i see that another channel i subscribed to is here too 😊😃
@1337PANDA
@1337PANDA 6 жыл бұрын
Both of you just uploaded the video
@ihabhamad8290
@ihabhamad8290 6 жыл бұрын
you and he very important channels on youtube thanks a lot
@shutdahellup69420
@shutdahellup69420 6 жыл бұрын
Need a dispenser here! no puns intended lol
@TheSupertecnology
@TheSupertecnology 6 жыл бұрын
Holy... fist I saw Afrotechmods comment, and now you too? Damn is KZbin heaven
@meowcula
@meowcula 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, of course it is easier with a micro or special purpose IC, but keep in mind that doing it this way is very instructive in how all the functional blocks actually work. It's like anything else in electronics these days, there's many layers of abstraction taking us farther and farther from the jellybean hardware and we lose a bit of fundamental understanding.
@reggiep75
@reggiep75 6 жыл бұрын
So largely like hand building a car long after autonomous assembly lines were introduced!? Damn that's so retro hahaha! One thing I really do like about this channel tho is a MASSIVELY RELEVANT SPONSOR that doesn't have to be sold to the viewers as it's 100% relevant to the content! You are saluted for a good sponsor!
@stevejagger8602
@stevejagger8602 Жыл бұрын
“We can create circuits without a micro-controller....” in my case this is my natural choice because thats where I started in the mid to late sixties. From my perspective, starting with analogue design gives you more understanding of circuit theory and signal processing. Often when you are beginning a new design you have to research to gain the fundamental understanding. Putting those building blocks together in discrete form gives a better understanding of what works and what doesn’t and starting point for experimentation and optimisation. That is what I enjoy most in watching your videos. I gain a new or better understanding.
@lumpyfishgravy
@lumpyfishgravy 6 жыл бұрын
I've been working with boost converters for over 20 years and have not yet come across one that does use a microcontroller. The analogue parts are good enough and cheap enough, and I suspect a lot more efficient.
@alanpartridge2140
@alanpartridge2140 6 жыл бұрын
And in safety critical industries like aerospace they are preferred as ICs are generally easier to verify than microcontrollers and code.
@czmik
@czmik 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen a chinese cc/cv board with a stm32 once.
@rohitchaturvedi2271
@rohitchaturvedi2271 6 жыл бұрын
I have repaired many switching power supplies. None of them had microcontroller.
@lumpyfishgravy
@lumpyfishgravy 6 жыл бұрын
+CoolKoon - Of course an MCU is always a choice, and sometimes it is the better choice. But in 2018 I do not think most switching supply designs are best done this way. Actually I am sad because I would like to create a super cheap switcher using an MCU but these days with integrated switches, synchronous flyback and high frequencies needing only very cheap inductors and capacitors, I think the game is over for common applications. There might be some niche applications where factors other than outright power or efficiency are primary that would benefit; such as stability into ultra low power factor loads or continuity of supply over decades of production. There maybe an MCU is a good choice. But - and this is important - *you should always play.* So go ahead and make an MCU SMPS. You'll learn so much on the journey.
@Hasitier
@Hasitier 6 жыл бұрын
I like this new series. Why go the easy way if there is a difficult one. Shows really good why just using a micro is so much better. Go on with the great work. Greetings from Dresden. Michael
@Dragonmastur24
@Dragonmastur24 6 жыл бұрын
6:36 - Let the magic smoke out :o
@dhruvjustexists
@dhruvjustexists Жыл бұрын
Hey, Scott! I just watched your previous video on the boost converter and commented about one without a microcontroller and this video immediately got recommended to me! Thanks a lot, mate!
@sayantanmaiti2513
@sayantanmaiti2513 6 жыл бұрын
Bro...the feedback method impressed me a lot!!!! I really loved the method by which you designed the feedback.. A nice, decent and cheap approach
@benjefferson8609
@benjefferson8609 6 жыл бұрын
Loved the "In this episode of: we can create circuits without a microcontroller, but that usually doesn't make a whole lot of sense was great!
@genghisbunny
@genghisbunny 6 жыл бұрын
I love these videos where you basically demonstrate that, "Of course you can do this, but you shouldn't."
@thekamakaji
@thekamakaji 6 жыл бұрын
I bought PCBs through JLC and was super happy with the price and the quality. Thought I'd lyk!
@thekamakaji
@thekamakaji 6 жыл бұрын
I had looked into ordering custom pcbs before but they were all too expensive. JLC actually is reasonable somehow
@stevetobias4890
@stevetobias4890 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Scott, seems much easier to buy a cheap eBay DC to DC converter but I really appreciate you reaching me the working of each part of the circuit.
@cdsmith
@cdsmith 6 жыл бұрын
I don't get the logic of this. We should build switchers with microcontrollers because it is too hard to build one out of op-amps, comparators, voltage references, resistors, capacitors, and mosfets? You answered the question properly at the end. Use a switcher chip. Don't reinvent the wheel. With a switcher chip you can build one with the chip, the inductor, diode, and capacitor, and done. And it can be trusted to be stable and regulate properly. The only reason to build one this way is for the purpose of understanding how they work at the deepest levels.
@MaxintRD
@MaxintRD 6 жыл бұрын
Yep. As you could see in the shown datasheet of the MT3608, that circuit would be very simple. Some time ago I made a mini boost-converter with that chip. The main value of this video is to educate and indeed to create understanding.
@PsiQ
@PsiQ 6 жыл бұрын
I always recommend taking a look at the joule-thief ( BigCliveDotCom ) and/or the pr4403 / pr4402 (and similar) for some interesting and easy projects around boost circuits which can recycle/use old batteries.
@vincentstuchly8021
@vincentstuchly8021 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome second part of We can create circuits without a microcontroler, but usually that does not make a whole lot of sense! series. I really enjoyed every minute.
@yucelkucukcirkin4252
@yucelkucukcirkin4252 6 жыл бұрын
this the type of content that I want to watch please continue doing things without microcontroller.
@__MINT_
@__MINT_ 4 жыл бұрын
We should use microcontrollers for such a simple circuits only, when we don't have other solutions for that. You can easily build the boost converter using 555 timer, an optocoupler and tl431 or a zener diode. I have built one and it was as simple as the microcontroller version. Building the boost converter on discreet transistors is also possible. You just have to make a multivibrator, connect it's output to 2 transistor mosfet driver, make a feedback with tl431 or a zener diode and a transistor, and modify the resistance of one of the base resistors in a vibrator with it. Just add a paraller transistor to that resistor and you're done.
@kaiserindustries5567
@kaiserindustries5567 6 жыл бұрын
6:35 you said it works, but i saw in the background smoke 😂👍🏻
@generalbutz8477
@generalbutz8477 4 жыл бұрын
Soldering iron?
@ishigamiyu1991
@ishigamiyu1991 4 жыл бұрын
@@generalbutz8477 a dying component
@Metroid1890
@Metroid1890 3 жыл бұрын
My hopes
@skrame01
@skrame01 6 жыл бұрын
Word of advice: You need to use flux so you don't get the sharp spike tails when you re-solder anything to a joint. Use a syringe of flux paste and apply it Every time you solder anything. Joints will be much better and it's easy to do.
@electron-1979
@electron-1979 6 жыл бұрын
Stephen Kramer Yea, paste or liquid flux is really helpful!
@0x8badf00d
@0x8badf00d 6 жыл бұрын
I think he has bad solder. The flux core in the solder is usually enough in my experience.
@ryebis
@ryebis 6 жыл бұрын
Nice walk through. Higher frequency is going to be harder with a micro-controller - with higher frequency you can choose smaller inductors.
@kornelillyes2848
@kornelillyes2848 6 жыл бұрын
This is offically the first episode of "WCCCWMBUTDNMWLS" aka. the "We can create circuits without a microcontroller but usually that does not make a whole lot of sense!" edit: this comment is the first episode of "We can create long and complicated acronyms but that usually does not make a whole lot of sense!"
@ahmedelwan9129
@ahmedelwan9129 6 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHHA
@ljfaag
@ljfaag 6 жыл бұрын
We can create pointless answers to more or less pointless comments but that usually does not make a whole lot of sense!
@kornelillyes2848
@kornelillyes2848 6 жыл бұрын
ljfa We can create a copypasta out of a joke GS made, but it is usually even less sensible and funny than the original joke so it does not make a whole lot of sense
@pileofstuff
@pileofstuff 6 жыл бұрын
It's always good to have more than one way to solve a problem. Plus, I prefer a pure hardware solution over doing the heavy lifting in software.(mostly because I suck at coding)
@alanpartridge2140
@alanpartridge2140 6 жыл бұрын
In the aerospace industry this approach would traditionally be the more preferred choice as it is easier to verify. Verify code and a microcontroller is a lot more complicated than verifying individual components and ICs.
@araibirshad8294
@araibirshad8294 6 жыл бұрын
seconded. I usually frown at the use of uCs in every simple application that can be done with a transistor and a few resistors. And this traditional approach is easier imo and the right way to implement basic circuits.
@JoeCharlieH
@JoeCharlieH 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed, but if you use more hardware on your projects, you will have more stuff that can eventually fail. Also, if you use a mC for simple aplications, is like killing a fly with a cannon. Yes you can kill ir, but with something simplier you can do that job
@alanpartridge2140
@alanpartridge2140 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Charlie H Yes there is more stuff to fail but one needs to look at the overall probability of failure. Which is the sum of probability of failure of all of the parts. As a very simple example, if there is a circuit which has 5 components which all have a 0.03 chance of failure, then the overall chance of failure is 0.15. If a second circuit has 10 components each with a 0.01 chance of failure then the overall chance of failure is 0.1, what I am trying to show by this, is that although the second circuit has more things which could go wrong, the chances of the second circuit failing is less. Is the mircocontroller more likely to fail than the sum of any of the ICs, that is the real question as to which circuit can be considered the more reliable in terms of prevention of failure.
@luongmaihunggia
@luongmaihunggia 6 жыл бұрын
pileofstuff at least you are better than me, I don't even know coding is related to electrical engineering.
@gotbread2
@gotbread2 6 жыл бұрын
While this can work, the circuit is semistable. For slowly changing loads or input signals it will work fine, however for transient loads it can show an extreme under and overshoot (google "right half plane zero" for more information), also it has a very low phase margin, so it could, with some parasitic capacitances in the circuit, start to oscillate. (If you operate in CCM)
@station240
@station240 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if those are the "few problems" he has with his circuit, or if there are others as well.
@janek4913
@janek4913 6 жыл бұрын
Great video - btw. it does make sense, because when using an uC you need a programmer, computer, etc and also its not available everywhere and little more expensive and harder to replace when broken (reprogram, needs the code etc)
@MrJason005
@MrJason005 6 жыл бұрын
on what device did you watch this youtube video?
@janek4913
@janek4913 6 жыл бұрын
android phone, why?
@DoomRater
@DoomRater 6 жыл бұрын
A programmer's job is to get fired as quickly as possible. Put another way, a programmer should be looking to have the project done so he is not needed- a programmer is an automator. If your code needs reprogramming later on, either your needs changed or it wasn't done right the first time!
@abdulazeez.98
@abdulazeez.98 6 жыл бұрын
PolskaDojczland You have a good point. But I (as an electronics hobbyist) usually prefer the programming approach, I feel it's easier to test and debug, especially if you come from programming into electronics. But I noticed that the hardware approach is somewhat more "robust" than microcontrollers.
@janek4913
@janek4913 6 жыл бұрын
Abdulaziz Salam - For a hobby project you can use whatever parts that you have and want, but for professional use a standalone ic would be used - a uC is just too unreliable, not "robust" enough as you mentioned. But both approaches are valid, i just wanted to clarify it DOES make sense to use only ICs, because in the video he wrote it doesnt make sense.
@rohandabir1588
@rohandabir1588 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so nice that i watch them three to four times
@anonymousyoutubemember
@anonymousyoutubemember 3 жыл бұрын
His way of teaching is awosome.
@danernorbi
@danernorbi 2 жыл бұрын
I finaly made one with only one analog ic and some pasive components and a tl432 and 817c opto and its more stable and efficient than you'd think.
@sajalsnanda6209
@sajalsnanda6209 Жыл бұрын
Can u send the circuit diagram of it please
@noobulon4334
@noobulon4334 2 жыл бұрын
This is an excelent follow up project to my pwm generator using a dual opamp as a relaxation oscilator/comparator
@electromatic2014
@electromatic2014 6 жыл бұрын
Great video for teaching the basics of a feedback control on a circuit, for the readers: the only disadvantage is that this kind of controler is of the P tipe (proportional ), and it may add overshoot or oscilation to the output, the Best kind of controler for this applications where speed, presition and stability is mandatory is the PID controler (Proportional, integral, derivative) and it is easy to achieve on a microcontroler , you can still make it all pure analog , its really fun but time consuming ... I still preffer analog hehe. Great video Great scott!
@basiledavanna2532
@basiledavanna2532 6 жыл бұрын
Hi sir.Your pcb works are outstanding.super soldering.
@Darieee
@Darieee 6 жыл бұрын
The drawing is superbly done !
@zorrosgrises11
@zorrosgrises11 6 жыл бұрын
What a wonderfull name for this class of videos
@northshorepx
@northshorepx 6 жыл бұрын
An old school Great Scott electronics video -always a treat when the Patreon feed fires :-) May I ask about the ramp function please? Why not a sine wave there? Isn't it easier to create a sine wave oscillation? Hope this is not too dumb a question.
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 6 жыл бұрын
Since the feedback needs to be linear we have to use a triangle signal.
@vylbird8014
@vylbird8014 6 жыл бұрын
A sine would result in nonlinear feedback. It'd sort-of-work, but output voltage stability would be poor. To work properly you need a triangle or a ramp.
@grantgiesbrecht2236
@grantgiesbrecht2236 6 жыл бұрын
To address your other question, sines can also be trickier to make. Triangle waves are very easy to make with a relaxation oscillator. Sine waves require a little more effort, enough so that many function generators instead filter a triangle wave into something similar to a sine rather than generate the actual thing from scratch.
@vylbird8014
@vylbird8014 6 жыл бұрын
Really good triangle waves are difficult. You need to do things involving a constant current source. But unless you're making something that needs a really precise triangle/saw wave (an oscilloscope perhaps, or CRT display), a relaxation oscillator is a close-enough approximation.
@RexxSchneider
@RexxSchneider 2 жыл бұрын
@@vylbird8014 The oscillator used in the circuit (see 6:02 ) charges/discharges the 10nF capacitor with a constant current via the 1K resistor which has either +2.5V or -2.5V across it, That's because the 1K resistor is driven by the rail-to-rail (0V to 5V) square wave from a Schmitt trigger and the other end of the resistor at the inverting input is kept at the same voltage as the non-inverting (around +2.5V) by opamp action. It's the really good triangle wave you're looking for.
@researchandbuild1751
@researchandbuild1751 5 жыл бұрын
Radio Shack used to sell a book "build Switching power supplies" i have one, shows how to build using basic components. I built one back in the day to step 12volts up to 30 with 100watt capacity, using a single IRF510 as the switch along with a high speed diode and a toriod. The control was a 555 timer
@araibirshad8294
@araibirshad8294 6 жыл бұрын
I think the uC approach is usually preffered by hobbyists and non engineer people coz learning to code is easier than studying the analog design methodology and creating a solution around it. The applications of hobbyists do not usually require the level of efficiency that should be present in industry standard engineering design so this approach is usually easier and just werks. I may be wrong here but that is just my opinion. Also mixed signal design like a mcu controlled boost converter is tougher to design to strict tolerances than analog design of the same topology. Atleast it is to me. Great video btw !
@electron-1979
@electron-1979 6 жыл бұрын
A I Yea, probably
@tunahankaratay1523
@tunahankaratay1523 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the fpga version.
@sigataros
@sigataros Жыл бұрын
How does this man manage to always make his videos 0 to 100 everytime, i cannot understand anything past the 3rd minute
@jamesvalentine925
@jamesvalentine925 6 жыл бұрын
I like the title for this kind of video, might be long but it's too the point. It's interesting to see how ICs have changed electronics.
@jamest.5001
@jamest.5001 5 жыл бұрын
Irresistorible!! I wish I got into this when I was younger, its hard to teach a old dog electronics!!
@punpck
@punpck 6 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial - but I wouldn't recommend the microcontroller version either ... Use a simple MC34063 for this task :) A step-up / step-down normally does more than just adjusting the PWM ... They have some safety circuits built in - for instance limitting the current through the coil and mosfet ... A year ago (or so ...) I used the cheap MC34063 as boost converter for 50W LED (12V to 48V @ 1A) which worked quite nice and it is cheeeeeap :)
@davestorm6718
@davestorm6718 Жыл бұрын
temperature compensated, too!
@camilienbeaudoin7907
@camilienbeaudoin7907 6 жыл бұрын
6:35 is that magic smoke ? :D
@bhoopathis9660
@bhoopathis9660 6 жыл бұрын
Really you are great Scott. You are making great videos and also you are a inspiration for many peoples including Me😍
@amaanabass0943
@amaanabass0943 6 жыл бұрын
you are really great mr. scott..... you help us beginners a lot
@UpcycleElectronics
@UpcycleElectronics 6 жыл бұрын
Lol,, let's kiddingly complain more! ;)) Why are you using these newfangled IC-thingys? Real men build their boost converters out of discrete transistors!! ...or so I've been told... *buys 5 converter modules on AliEx for $0.99 like everyone else Personally, I usually grab an old phone type car charger with an MC34063 and put the original components in a boost configuration. Then I simply change the feedback resistors to set the voltage. It's not a clean voltage rail or capable of serious current, but it works for powering a relay or something like that with around 12-15 volts from a 5v supply. I don't worry about the inductor size or anything like proper SMPS design. Just throw it on super cheap perf board and hide it in the back corner of an enclosure. I've never used a uC though. Thanks for the upload ;) -Jake
@meowcula
@meowcula 6 жыл бұрын
LOL no way, tubes!
@czmik
@czmik 6 жыл бұрын
Relay logic is the only way!
@thewolfin
@thewolfin 6 жыл бұрын
Very impressive, but can you do it using only passive and electromechanical components?
@UpcycleElectronics
@UpcycleElectronics 6 жыл бұрын
Wolfin Heck yeah!!! I ball George Jetson style. *Button push + Button push + Button push = boost. You can call my thumb *Mr Mosfet* Sir. Good day! ;))
@moth.monster
@moth.monster 6 жыл бұрын
Real men build their boost converters using only a pencil, tin foil, and a razor blade
@i.apilado
@i.apilado 6 жыл бұрын
Finally! Without using the microcontroller
@kaoshavoc
@kaoshavoc 6 жыл бұрын
OMG! I actually got it right on the patreon teaser.
@MarterElectronics
@MarterElectronics 6 жыл бұрын
Intro music is bartlebeats - 2011 Lookalike
@vylbird8014
@vylbird8014 6 жыл бұрын
I have made a microcontroller-driven buck converter before, but that was a special case - it was for a solar MPPT controller and needed to constantly adapt for optimal power transfer. I have wondered if you could use a microcontroller driven buck to vary the output voltage in a 'rectified sine' wave, then use an H bridge to make an ultra-compact inverter. In principle it should work, providing your load is resistive. A bit of reactance would really screw it up, but that's true for most inverters.
@knotsable
@knotsable Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I hope this all makes sense to me some day 😂
@gauravjoshi747
@gauravjoshi747 6 жыл бұрын
you made power electronic really easy for us
@Cambpictures
@Cambpictures 6 жыл бұрын
And then there is me. I just buy them... Btw to you other guys. I can recommend JLCPCB. The circuits are dirt cheap but looks like a million! We use the circuits for power supply monitoring and after receiving the first 10, bought 50 more the same day and got them 20 days later.
@electric_mix
@electric_mix 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@karlohorcicka7388
@karlohorcicka7388 6 жыл бұрын
I really like what You did in the beginning (that text which I forgot, and was too lazy to check). You should do more things like that
@IrishSkruffles
@IrishSkruffles 6 жыл бұрын
uC are very handy, but they suck compared to dedicated IC's (and the discrete component method too).. For DCDC converters, a high switching frequency is sometimes very desirable. With uC's the PWM frequency is often too low or if it can be increased, the discrete steps that the duty cycle moves in is absolutely rubbish for maintaining a decent output voltage.
@somejoe7777
@somejoe7777 3 жыл бұрын
In addition to that mentioned disadvantage (quantized PWM steps that a microcontroller supplies), a much larger problem with using a microcontroller is that you cannot tune the feedback loop for high gain and high speed. Designing a proper feedback loop for an SMPS is the hardest part. Using a microcontroller will work, but the microcontroller will respond very slowly to output voltage changes, often taking hundreds of microseconds or even milliseconds to bring the output voltage back to the design voltage after a transient. This is unacceptable in most applications. An SMPS using a dedicated SMPS controller IC can be designed to bring output voltage back to the design value in single-digit microseconds for voltage-mode control, or down into the nanoseconds for current-mode control. In this circuit shown in this video, the error amplifier looks to have a gain of around 1 (10K input resistor, 10K feedback resistor). While that will indeed be stable, the output regulation will be very poor (several tenths of volts or whole volts of change with a load change).
@Zeksait
@Zeksait 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott! Make a video review of your workplace. What tools do you use, how to store details, how to store order and so on.
@benjamincrall8065
@benjamincrall8065 6 жыл бұрын
Please continue this series!
@thebluemarauder
@thebluemarauder 6 жыл бұрын
This was very cool and informative! That said when in doubt just use the MC34063A. It's stupidly cheap and works like a champ, even on a breadboard!
@rolandberendonck3900
@rolandberendonck3900 5 жыл бұрын
But you cannot connect a Mosfet with that IC as far as I know.
@tiger.98
@tiger.98 6 жыл бұрын
I think that we learned a lot more here, since real boost converters are made like this. Semplicity isn't everything. And let's be honest, if I NEEDED a boost converter i would buy one anyway, building one is not for pratical use. More, I and other people find complicated and/or analog projects a lot more interesting, since electronics are not (only) coding. I Hope that you change your mind about not-mcu projects.
@amalmjames2884
@amalmjames2884 6 жыл бұрын
I just thought about building a boost converter you are awsome🔥🔥🔥
@MaxintRD
@MaxintRD 6 жыл бұрын
If you want to build a simple miniature boost converter using the MT3608 chip and only a few passive components, you can find a video about it on my channel. Have fun building your own!
@amalmjames2884
@amalmjames2884 6 жыл бұрын
Maxint R&D thank you
@PhG1961
@PhG1961 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome ! I really love watching your videos !
@derknistermann5613
@derknistermann5613 6 жыл бұрын
I suggest building a decoration Binary Counter and showing how these work! They are interesting and useful after all.
@ernestuz
@ernestuz 6 жыл бұрын
The MC34063 is extremely cheap and, with just a few components, make very nice boost converters.
@hubmartin
@hubmartin 6 жыл бұрын
I would suggest newer switchers. The old 34063 has bipolar switching transistor with all its inefficiencies.
@iblesbosuok
@iblesbosuok 4 жыл бұрын
Circuit around U1.2 need to be configured into integrator amplifier. Take out R8 and replace R10 with capacitor which has 10mS with R9. Cheers from Indonesia
@adithyapillai4259
@adithyapillai4259 6 жыл бұрын
Is That Magic Smoke at 6:34 ??? Great Video as always :D
@KrisX7331
@KrisX7331 6 жыл бұрын
Adithya Pillai Damn. I would have never spoted that.
@Michael_Michaels
@Michael_Michaels 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, lend me some of your knowledge!!! It's impressive!!!
@MiggyManMike
@MiggyManMike 6 жыл бұрын
I love me a good W.C.C.C.W.A.M.B.U.T.D.N.M.A.W.L.O.S episode!
@MrTest-dc8je
@MrTest-dc8je Жыл бұрын
Hello Sir, Why you didn't use the "555 timer ic" as a Square Wave generator. To control the mosfet
@janoschlolmann8822
@janoschlolmann8822 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice viedo. Finally it would be nice to see any transient load test with the digital an analog version 👍🏻
@electroideas3255
@electroideas3255 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the idea with the tl431 transistor to get a stabil 2.4v ,nice video!!!!!!!
@DolezalPetr
@DolezalPetr 6 жыл бұрын
very cool, more projects without a microcontroler please
@ahmedsiddiqui9515
@ahmedsiddiqui9515 5 жыл бұрын
In schematic you used 4 opamp( 6:03 ) but in final setup you used only 3 opamps ( 8:02). Why and which one you eliminated ?
@RexxSchneider
@RexxSchneider 2 жыл бұрын
The MCP602 has two opamps in an 8-pin package, so the three 8-pin packages you saw at 8:02 comprised two dual-opamps and a mosfet driver (TC4420). The TL431 is in the TO-92 3-pin package and the two TO-220 devices are the MOSFET and (I assume) a 5V regulator to supply the MCP602s.
@rodrigo_dm
@rodrigo_dm 6 жыл бұрын
now that i watched i wanted to ask you GreatScott: why not use a single chip quad opamp that is rail to rail like a OPA4342 or a LMV324?
@shangen2783
@shangen2783 6 жыл бұрын
Rodrigo D Madruga you could
@MCSGproject
@MCSGproject 6 жыл бұрын
maybe he just had other chips on hand, nbd either way
@aleksandermasluk3507
@aleksandermasluk3507 6 жыл бұрын
I like the new series title.
@tejav1160
@tejav1160 5 жыл бұрын
You could've have used TL494 IC which does both Gating Pulse generation and feedback. Works flawlessly.
@avejst
@avejst 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 😀👍 Nice project, well done 👍😀
@__dm__
@__dm__ 6 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling with good design regarding the PWM frequency, output filter and loop compensation, you'll get a boost converter that has a better loop response compared to the microcontroller design, so that's one reason to use the analog version.
@pcbland7850
@pcbland7850 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing my friend ♥♥♥♥♥ Nice to meet you ♥♥♥♥♥ Best wishes for you ♥♥♥♥♥ Keep it up ............. ♥♥♥♥♥
@PerKroon
@PerKroon 6 жыл бұрын
Even if building a Boos Converter without a Mocricontroller "... does not make a whole lot of sense!" it was rather educational to watch. It's sometimes hard to realise how easy Microcontroller makes life sometimes.
@WezLite
@WezLite Жыл бұрын
hello sir, I want to know what component is that which looks like a mosfet but has a slight indentation in the corner, and is pin 4 and 8 of the mcp602p opamp connected to another power source?, if so how can you connect it with only one input voltage (boost in ). I want to try to make this circuit. Thank You
@MrWasim100100
@MrWasim100100 5 жыл бұрын
nice video you explain circuit very well .. very helpful thanks
@rahulkushwaha1984
@rahulkushwaha1984 6 жыл бұрын
Please demonstrate current mirror.
@grillpig3860
@grillpig3860 6 жыл бұрын
Yes but thats also possible without op-amps! I want to See you make this circuit with Basic components! (Transistors, mosfets, capacitors and resistors) XP
@b10s
@b10s 6 жыл бұрын
I like this new series :D please, make more... and keep the name :D :D
@amank.sharma6839
@amank.sharma6839 6 жыл бұрын
And thanks for these videos. They helps me a lot.
@nsfa19
@nsfa19 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan. You're the man!!
@willgower
@willgower 6 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the connector at 6:31 that pinches a wire? I am looking to buy one for a multimeter.
@electron-1979
@electron-1979 6 жыл бұрын
William Gower Good question!
@ohmslaw6856
@ohmslaw6856 3 жыл бұрын
You know what else doesn't make sense? Climbing Mt. Everest.. but it's still an amazing accomplishment
@willyou2199
@willyou2199 6 жыл бұрын
add negative feedback from the output back to the input, put an opamp comparing the output to a stable reference voltage, let the op amp output control the duty cycle.
@MCSGproject
@MCSGproject 6 жыл бұрын
Making circuits out of bare bones discrete components makes a lot of sense in a lot of applications. It can be a lot cheaper, and a lot more impressive to put on your resume. Firmware exp. also nice tho
@hjups
@hjups 6 жыл бұрын
I think you made that way more complicated than you had to. Whenever I have built boost / buck converters for projects, I typically use a PMIC which if you do the calculations in the datasheet correctly, will end up needing fewer parts and no potentiometers. Alternatively, you could try using TI's Webench tool, which lets you put in your input voltage range, output voltage range, and output current (it automatically detects boost / buck), and then will give you a list of specific value parts for different designs with various efficiency curves. While the main PMIC would be a TI part, you can usually find comparable parts from other manufacturer's which don't require component value changes. Also, all of the webench designs are SMD based, so they give you a recommended compact PCB footprint for the converter, though you should be able to do the same thing using perf board and THT components.
@AhmedHan
@AhmedHan 6 жыл бұрын
I have never seen a DC-DC converter controlled by a microcontroller. Implementing a MCU controller DC-DC controller has no practical benefit unless the microcontroller has a built-in DC-DC controller inside it.
@KACPER050599
@KACPER050599 6 жыл бұрын
I saw a few SMPS which were "semi digital" - whole operation was analog, setting voltage and some diagnostics were digital, but I can't recall any of them.
@vaio232
@vaio232 6 жыл бұрын
IMAX b6 uses uC, but it's not reliable. it's that parts count really affects overall product costs board space etc
@researchandbuild1751
@researchandbuild1751 5 жыл бұрын
Furthermore an IC chip would need its own regulated supply..
@NoviSavvy
@NoviSavvy 6 жыл бұрын
I've never heared about using microcontrollers in such circuits.. UC3843, TL494 and some other are oftenly used instead Cause they are exactly made for those converters and switching power supplies They are comletely analog, cheap, and require a few components to work properly UC3843 even provides current limiting feature and voltage control without addition of any external comparators
@station240
@station240 6 жыл бұрын
I've got a 2.2kW PSU here that has a PIC 18F microcontroller in the middle controlling all the switching devices. But yes they usually use a dedicated PWM or switching IC.
@AnOrangeECat
@AnOrangeECat 6 жыл бұрын
What a brand new long series name
@aljivenalejo3904
@aljivenalejo3904 6 жыл бұрын
You answer my question Scott!! Can I make a boost converter just simple linear 555 digital subscription signal thanks Scott!!
@abeditani8293
@abeditani8293 4 жыл бұрын
5:43 do you have the PCB link please . I need to do this one . And I want to know is it right to change some of the opamp with better one ic and change the resistance with right calculation for better signal quality
@giacomo1191
@giacomo1191 6 жыл бұрын
Nice, it would be interesting a comparison of the ripple and noise voltage between the two versions
@benjamindorant9029
@benjamindorant9029 5 жыл бұрын
I'm new to electronics having only dabbled in relatively simple projects in the past - I have a question and I don't seem to be able to find an answer but this video comes close. Is it possible to take a 0.5V 6A input (from a sunpower maxeon pv cell) and boost it to a usable voltage (say 5V)? I cannot find a boost converter that can handle such a low voltage (or if I do it cannot handle 6A)? Does such a boost converter exist or is it possible to split the current accross multiple boost converters?
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