Creating A Patina On Copper

[@skylerbond56]

Thanks for the patina tip I just ordered a Kershaw Copper natrix and wanted to patina it green.

[@swensonbl]

Awesome! Thanks for sharing!

[@sgibbons77]

Glad to hear that your LLC is doing well - can't wait to see the cool things you've got planned. Congrats!

[@cathijohnson5867]

What did it look like after you washed it

[@HistoricalGeology56]

Dont wash it, you need to spray either a resin, or protective layer ontop of it to make it more permanent

[@FknNefFy]

Awesome I’m doing it

[@jameswilliamson746]

This kinda stuff is fascinating. As an old chemist it fires me up to try other techniques I've seen here and understand, of course the chemistry. Have you tried other combinations/techniques you can share, such as adding additional elements to the elements already present (listed on the back of the box)? Perhaps there one or two that can make the final result really "pop" or improve adhesion. Of course, other ideas pop into my head but this is already too long. Great video...clear image and sound. Thank you for reinforcing the need for safety.

[@jamesford3593]

Mixed it with water if you want a blue color. Miracle-gro turns it green. Both are 3 to 1 mixtures.

[@FknNefFy]

I wanna see after it’s rinsed off

[@oljames1687]

..Looking forward to some Quality videos and productions coming from yall. All the Best in your endeavors at Dark Moon Metals,LLC...

[@Mich23690]

Did you solder the stems on

[@jeffreysanto]

No, I cheat on the copper roses. I use a small die to put threads onto the brass stem. I use two small brass nuts to hold it all together. I put the first one on and tighten it, use a sander to round it out. I stack the pieces for the bloom, add the second nut and tighten it. I cut off the excess threads and use a small rivet tool to peen the left over material locking the nut in place. The bloom hides the top nut. I did use solder at one time. The reason I switches was because I started using the copper rose project as part of the Boy Scout Merit Badge class for Metalworking. It was much safer doing everything cold, required me to bring fewer tools, and a lot less likely that any mistake during the assembly would be unfixable. Most of the boys later gave them as gifts to their mothers :)

[@Mich23690]

@@jeffreysanto i was going to try the red patina method but used have to get the rose red hot and it melted the solder

[@FknNefFy]

Use a little hot water first to dilute the miracle grow crystal so it doesn’t clog the sprayer like that.

[@stclairstclair]

I have built a Phonograph using copper, It needs a patina but i would like it darken like a copper penny, The style here is a bit too aggressive as i will be playing records with it, Can you do a video on something akin to Penny Copper?

[@kenmahlke1163]

Hey Jeffrey - trying to use your formula (red wine vinegar and Miracle Gro) to patina a large copper horse weathervane. It is turning out a spotty blue - ugly. Hard to get consistent color on a big piece - any thoughts?

[@ginaiannucci]

Doing the miracle gro vinegar and salt route

[@Roobarb1]

What is the product name you are referring to? Blue Viterol? I don't think I'll be able to find it in Europe, but maybe I can find the content ratio. Thanks in advance!

[@FranOnTheEdge]

I would have prefered to see what happened after you washed those roses. And which method you used to wash them. I have done a few patinas and when you wash some of them most of the green is gone but you do get a different colour. This looks best if you've used crushed crisps as you get shapes from the tiny bits of crisps and the fat content allows the crisps to adhere slightly to the metal. (You call them 'potato chips')

[@XxPackerManxX]

The method you speak of is used for a vinegar patina. Not necessary for this method.

[@UCMWINGS]

Wouldn't it be easier to dip the roses instead of using the sprayer?

[@brightchange6065]

awesome - i pay big $$ for a premade product by rustoleum and the ingredients say "acidic aqueous solution with copper salt": - - vinegar (acidic) and fertilizer (copper salts) - its blue - BINGO!

[@cdnsoul5808]

My ancestors used horse's urine but. It may be hard to get today.

[@toonybrain]

cdn soul Available, but hard to get. LOL

[@PhilipShoebridge]

It’s ammonia that does the trick. Any urine develops ammonia. Vinegar too. Ammonia sulphate (99.4% is what I can buy here in the uk) vaporises and turns table salt stuck onto the copper with vinegar deep green/blue. But horse piss will do!!

[@seattlebeard]

If you want your finish to come out more blue all you have to do is add more Miracle Grow. It's not an exact science.

[@bohaggin5913]

plant food on roses. how ironic

[@AttackGypsy]

I want a Khukuri knife.

[@trollforge]

You know Jeff, if you want to make it Blue Vitrol is just copper sulphate and water. 16 oz weight CuSO4, to 9 oz weight water, but that is probably not what your friends drum holds, you know like the boiled linseed oil you buy at HomeDeathspot has other crap in in that makes it toxic...All you really need to get the finish you are looking for is Sulphuric acid, , you should be able to get that at any NAPA as car battery acid, then the trick is to figure out how much to water it down to balance safety and reaction time...

[@jeffreysanto]

Thanks for the information, I'll give that a shot the next time an order for patina roses come through :)

[@atypicalbnc]

And further extending on that... It's probably going to be cheaper to check out your plumbing aisle for either "root killer" - which is pure copper sulfate - or sulfuric acid drain cleaner (not as common these days - 100% lye prills seem to be somewhat more common). Copper sulfate is pretty benign to work with. Both the battery acid (~35% sulfuric acid) and drain cleaner (~92% sulfuric acid) can be a bit more hazardous to work with.

[@benyoumans9072]

Clean copper. Wet with water. Sprinkle sea salt lightly or liberally your choice. Place in an airtight chamber like a shoe box etc. with ammonia. The fumes. turns it blue in around 24 hours

[@jeffreysanto]

We are totally going to try this when we make our next batch, thank you. :)

[@dataluskazan4006]

But why they were so pritty and now not so much if you heat the liqued the powder will desolve and use a diy stirr plate mine cost 14 bucks encludinf sterr bars but good job on what you were going for neet idea

[@scottjohnson7774]

try salt and vinegar and see how that works

[@trollforge]

Bryan Sullivan copper acetate is blue green too...