Creating a Songwriter DEMO

In this episode discuss the importance of making a full sounding demo.
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[@thomasmcgill6918]

What I really love about Ricks channel, Rick touches on something new, fresh, and creative ... something I would have never thought of.

[@allancrow134]

Thanks Rick you are a walking encyclopedia of musical knowledge. Total pleasure to watch. :)

[@robphegan90]

My favourite Beato Video. Would love more content like this.

[@jpwill75]

This will be great to hold on to for a "previously unreleased" album of Shinedown for later in their careers.

[@kenkreisel6890]

That feeling when you learn something you wanted to learn with the addition of using a band you love. Thank you Rick!

[@toddhaser]

This probably shows my newness to recording, but that 'demo' sounds radio-ready to me... dang! Great song too...

[@davecarsley8773]

Many demos are not this good. Rick is very careful about recording demos just in case the final producer can't get the sound he wants and just asks for tracks from the demo to use in the final mix.

[@TexasJackdaw]

I’ve had endless discussions about demos - the 2 schools of thought being: 1) Record a simple demo, just vocals and guitar/piano. And 2) Record a full production. I’ve always leaned to No.2. I like to flesh out a complete production because so often, the countermelodies and rhythm are a big part of songs. If a producer/label/music supervisor, etc. want a stripped demo, then I’ll bounce a stem mix. I dunno. I’m glad Rick created this video. It’ll help me make my case in future discussions. Thank you Rick.

[@StevenMikel1]

This is a awesome song,it definitely should have been on the album.

[@bikesnbeerz]

You are right Rick, that should definitely made the album. Maybe after the title track even. This is much better than any of their early B tracks.

[@Minivanmusician]

Rick ... you've changed the way that hip hop music is being done ... I created a new concept of approach thanks to you!

[@gyurko]

That demo sounds KILLER!

[@bikesnbeerz]

Rick Beato --> Shinedown ---> Chris Lord Alge mixed = Mind Blown!!!

[@castlestreetrecords]

That should have been released wow

[@gvbjr.6693]

I love your channel!! You may be the absolute best guitar related channel on youtube!!!

[@ScottMcdonaldMusic]

This should have been a single, I’m not sure how the algorithm missed me but I’m glad I finally watched it.

[@joshuawilliams124]

I really love this type of live show, Rick. I always learn a lot.

[@AdityaSMusic]

TRENT REZNOR! that's what popped up in my mind the moment you said scoring and sound design ....can you do a video about him..i wanna understand what possibly goes on in a room with him driving the sound.

[@johnnyo0507]

Weird coincidence's??? I am a Shinedown fan.....I am a Rick Beato fan....what are the odds the two are connected? Great tune Rick and excellent video

[@the-creech4790]

Rick got to use the ban hammer!

[@LukeFaulkner]

Just stumbled upon your channel, Rick. Great content - new sub here!

[@scottberry4056]

Mistake not to take this song. Awesome! Thx for this!

[@hannanathan564]

This is one of my favorite videos of yours that I constantly rewatch! Great information and killer song!

[@jasonbone5121]

18:15 How cool is that - such a great video, thanks Rick!

[@alternalife3920]

Has a shinedown fan this was extra fun to watch :)

[@orbitaljellyfish808]

Damn... forgot it was a demo. 👏👏

[@robphegan90]

Love this song should of been on the album.

[@tylerkramer98]

Rick, your videos are always so informative and well made. Would you consider making one covering how you make your videos? I would be interested to see your process for planning, recording and editing videos on the everything music channel.

[@mobeus84]

Dude thats a hit bro. Its all about the eargasm and rhythm!!

[@zoltannemeth8864]

Thanks Rick! Great video. I totally support that Ban Hammer move, too.

[@RandyHanley]

Rick is talented, in addition to being a genius.

[@joeh7454]

Absolutely love this video! Thanks Rick

[@jeffsmiley3213]

Awsome video!! Love Shinedown!! Crazy that this never made it on the album. Excellent song!!

[@rjh6037]

A little surprised this one didn't get picked up. It's actually a good type of tune to open an album from this style of band.

[@pcole11]

Would love to see a tutorial on separating vocals from guitars in a mix.

[@chriss2965]

Panning?

[@johncougar526]

Panning, Eq, Ducking, Good Arrangement, Exciters, so many ways ... and it all starts with the writing.

[@chriss2965]

Mixing/ Production. I see 👍

[@Cynical_Finch]

That Samson usb Mic that Rick shows @38:08 is absolutely freaking *amazing* for what it is. I currently have one & it's literally not only my main vocal mic, but also *my entire digital/audio interface into my DAW.* I've been using it to record a demo LP that I'm roughly 3 songs into right now, & it's been performing really well imo. $200+ for a vocal mic and audio interface *all in one device* that actually sounds good? Man, what a time to be a musician on a budget! (if anyone wants to hear what it can do for budget recording, I have a few recordings up over on BandLab as @adam_assuaging_pain. disclaimer though: I'm no pro like Rick is)

[@edwardboot3431]

Another great video, Rick. Every video teaches me something new. :) I know you read these comments, can I make a request to have some more videos done on vocals and singing? You kind of scratched the surface here talking about placement of the mic.I started getting back into singing last year. I was in a choir many years ago, but never worked as a soloist before. One of my biggest troubles is getting grit or distortion to my voice for rock music (the "vocal fry"), doing that without destroying my vocal chords. There are instructors on KZbin, but they all have these expensive courses/classes for singing. I just wanna know the basics to do it without screwing my voice up from an actual professional whose word I would trust (you!). I think you have tons of material you could make videos about for singing... the vocal fry, proximity effect, do pop filters really affect sound quality. Thanks Rick!

[@JavyonVISION]

So much good stuff in this video Rick! He has such a great voice!!

[@ryananthony4840]

"That's what you get for come on......" lmmfao hell YES!

[@mikefearon3577]

16:15 Neil Peart has left the chat

[@herrmendes]

Really cool song. It sounds like beginning of 2000s but still awesome.

[@GigiUK]

What would be *really* helpful would be a video for people who are (non-performing) songwriters looking to present their songs for an artist / band to record. If someone has a great song (only on guitar with vocals), but aren’t into creating a top-sounding ‘band’ demo (like your video), or they are unable to or can’t afford the money, but just want to show off their songwriting skills... what are the A&R people looking for? How clinical does the acoustic guitar track/s need to be? If someone is a great songwriter, but just an okay singer, would that be okay just as long as they get across their songwriting skills? How perfect does a guitar & vocals demo actually need to be? How much attention to production is required if someone is able to lay down their song so that the listener understands what’s going on? Surely, it doesn’t have to be overly produced? A video for the songwriter would be really interesting 👍🏻

[@saltrequest5290]

Rick, would love to hear your take on the whole process of the Nashville thing you touched upon. Sessions, producers, players, demoing, budgets, etc...

[@michaelgodfrey7528]

"I used real amplifiers.." imagine saying that 10 yrs ago

[@frankensteinjr.4985]

amp sims were in heavy used back in 2010, now 20 years ago...

[@WillBrahm]

Rick this is the meat. Thank you

[@matsnyberg8127]

Great demo

[@qtubin]

By the way. Love the Pro Tools open house on this video. Great to see an hear what is going on. Thanks Rick!

[@Des_Armoni]

Best channel ever!!

[@leonardosales526]

great! thanks rick, your channel is really helpful!

[@victwenty1577]

You all everybody!

[@1rocknjerry]

Great video Rick, thanks for sharing!!

[@majd8138]

Man! Shinedown! Brent Smith! Holy hell.

[@mrflipperinvader7922]

Would it to be too much to ask for "what makes this song great: shinedown" just for bragging rights

[@southrnlyfe]

Was this quantized? Why not record actual drums? Is it difficult or is a drum machine so easy?

[@RickBeato]

The idea is to make a demo as fast as possible. I’m not set up to record and play drums by myself. I need someone to engineer. That’s why I program them.

[@bikesnbeerz]

@@RickBeatoby Mouse or Keyboard or drum pad/machine? It's tight.

[@splashesin8]

Thank you Rick!

[@gcsusetyo]

Was this recorded in 2007?! I would have loved to hear this on the radio, shame it didn't make the cut. I still wonder why we don't hear (today's version of) songs like this anymore on the radio... at least here in Jakarta, Indonesia, it seems that the only place I get to hear rock is on the oldies radio stations (and I'm starting to worry about the amount of time I'm spending there vs contemporary stations)

[@sjd1446]

Thanks Rick!! Wondering if you ever demo as you are writing, or if you always wait until the writing is finished. I just subscribed to the podcast!

[@MikeM-so3je]

Thanks Rick, this is great info.

[@beautifulllife1234]

The vocals sound nice! When mixing the doubled vocals, do you pan one slightly right, and the other slightly left? Keep both in middle? Or, keep one in the middle and the other left or right? Thanks for the cool video!

[@jghillstudio1857]

Rick Thank You for fixing the autofocus issue. Thank you for all your hard work. Did not know about the podcast. For some reason I can never catch you live. Are you sending out a message like going live in 30 minutes? Now of course I don’t live on my computer. Would like to have a spiral bound copy of your book instead of me having to deal with the pdf. I am old school and like to feel and smell the pages I am reading.

[@DarthQueefious]

I have 1 mic (Silver 414 EB (nylon)) that I use for pretty much everything. Got it for $400 many years ago. It also came with a free woodlouse in the box lol

[@jjkentala7850]

lots of good info here

[@jpwill75]

And for the record, amp fuzz gives a very authentic sound to electric guitar parts...

[@MarcoCataldi]

Great job Rick!

[@TheFishingTrucker]

Rick, that song is badass!

[@twstdelf]

Cool song! Surprised it didn't make the cut!

[@weses2]

That song sounds huge

[@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628]

Get the band back together and make this song. It's really good.

[@salcasabianca]

Where is the lead solo ....

[@ChrisPetersGuitar]

Very cool Rick! Have you ever tried the Shure KSM313 ribbon? It's killer blended 50/50 with a 57. It seems to have a midrange that is pretty unique compared to other ribbons.

[@joekelley5121]

Great sounding cut. Maybe it will be released in the future?

[@unabashed26]

Not my music, but that was amazing.

[@theuniverse685]

Rick, you should do a review about Days of the New first album!!

[@southrnlyfe]

One of my favorite albums. It had a very big influence on my guitar playing.

[@etz_oren]

rick can you PLEASE make a video about Tycho's genius??

[@salcasabianca]

Cool tune ....

[@jloren5662]

Gave a songwriter demo to my manager at request of a major: Majors literally expect a full production song now. What you need them for at that point is anyones guess... Maybe they are just screening for people who feel like signing 50% of all your future and some past work for those who are allergic to money and enjoy working instead of not being on drugs and sleeping? Artists should not have to be professional engineers and producers as they don't have the luxury of 20 years to make magic while trying the jack of all trades thing. Just my 2 bits.

[@ElectromagneDikk]

Nah for real though I've been taking free jazz guitar and jazz theory lessons from Rick on KZbin for free for a while now, just by the goddamn presets and show some fucking appreciation

[@johncougar526]

Those volume swells into the chorus are cool, I'd like them to assault both ears and then tail off a bit more. Good track. The arrangement could use a bit more dynamics ... why was this left off, again?

[@carterdodson4459]

What other songs that made the album did you help write?

[@slickcross]

Sounds like a WWE into lol

[@edwardrevin]

Thanks Rick!! More videos on song structure too!

[@hraschan99]

Hi! Rick, watching your great videos since couple of months and i always asking myself why you start your pro toolssessions in the middle of the track ? Greatings from Austria :)

[@mshoneybunny2you]

great song

[@Song123Writer]

Great work ! Do my demo song deed to be missed and mastered before shopping to music publishing companies? I’m just a song writer not an artist.

[@Nightwinflyer]

You mentioned Publishers won't use songs without real drums, would this be a problem for sites like Audiosparx? Also, I have heard you mention doing a song critique video or something where we can send a song to you for this purpose? Thanks Rick

[@RickBeato]

I didn’t say they wouldn’t use it without real drums. I said if it has drums and you don’t have drums in the demo they can’t imagine it.

[@Nightwinflyer]

@@RickBeato Oh OK, sorry the end had lots of comments I was trying to clarify that right as you ended...it is hard to visualize people in charge of music who can't imagine what music sounds like. I compose songs in my head to record the next day. It's what gets me out of bed keeps me sane. And I do it as a hobby. No wonder music has lost its way.

[@kennyplay5982]

How about a review on time changes. Use this song Neurotica

[@RH-zk8je]

Great video and good song. Personally, I don't like when the vocal part obviously overlaps itself like in this chorus. it sounds too obviously glued together. It seems better to write a song that could be sung naturally. Studio magic should either be hidden or obviously artistically intended.

[@RickBeato]

Ok bro. Tell that to The Beatles “Paperback Writer” “Rain” and a million other famous songs. I’ve read some idiotic comments and this is one of them. Come on Ryan. My god.

[@ModernDecay70]

Rick's Masterclass....Awesome!

[@Table-Top]

Are the SM7b's still used for singing vocals, or just vocal spoken-voice narration these days ?

[@RickBeato]

Anything

[@oneeyedlittleman]

Sm7s are all over metal vocals

[@Fenrir_Beernaert]

This song is fucking cool!

[@renatoprates7506]

hi from brazil

[@notan23]

Brent Smith is to good for Shinedown!

[@bikesnbeerz]

Shure SM7B is my fav under $500 USD

[@jjkentala7850]

how do you like the helix? considering the upgrade from hd 500x

[@user-oz6vy5ch8o]

as a small time producer arranger here in icky sticky black swamp mews ,,, Brisbane .. if a song doesn't hold it's own as a vocal over a guitar or piano .. it's not worth dressing up.. Steely Dan discarded a lot of songs that didn't vibe right or deliver the punch.

[@JaydonTanner]

God I miss this sound

[@chienbattu]

When I first heard the song I found it amazing and when Rick started talking again, I realize that I was listening to the video at 1.5 speed!? I still prefer the 1.5 speed version! The original seems so slow now... LoL

[@ryanstark2350]

"Everybody thinks that their newest song is their best song" Always true. It's funny. You can find stuff that is years old and is still way better than new stuff that you think is great until you get some distance from it.

[@RichardFriendartist]

dang that song is a hit.

[@christopherfreud5894]

Dear Rick, how many hours did it take to create the whole demo ? 10 hours ? 20? 30? Thanks Chris

[@RickBeato]

4 Hours

[@recordman555]

Lead vocal track bleeding. Queen used this on their first album in 1973.