Creating my Shughart Black Hawk Down M14 Clone

[@ncr1strecon528]

This is easy for me to say because it’s not my time or money but I would totally watch a series of Ian building historic replicas and telling a few stories about the campaign or the guy that used it.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

I would really enjoy doing that...

[@ASqdrnDA]

​@@ForgottenWeapons If you have the money ... I hope you do!

[@codywork-us7wu]

@@ForgottenWeapons We would LOVE a "clone correct" series or even a "look-a-like" series

[@DustyGamma]

​@@ForgottenWeapons Oh no, now you have a compelling excuse... For the sake of your pocket book, remember that you don't need an exact clone to tell a story!

[@roaringsteelmedia]

Upvote for signal boost. I'm onboard for this!

[@MrHws5mp]

Spray can painting tip Ian: don't press the button with the nozzle aimed at the job. Aim _next_ to the job, press the button, sweep the spray across it at as consistent a distance as you can manage, then take you finger off the button once the spray's clear of the job. That way you don't get puddles and runs where you "stop" at each end of the pass.

[@stephencolley334]

MrHws5mp CORRECT! I was wondering if someone would comment on this. I was surprised that Ian didn't know.

[@OG-Dork]

Bet that paint has more runs than a laxative

[@tomhalla426]

It is start moving your hand before you trigger the paint, whether using a spray can or a spray gun, and keep moving at a constant rate and distance.

[@coryhaynes8755]

Food for thought. Do you think a delta force guy cared about runs in his paint or precise spray can etiquette? Or did he quickly grab what I'm presuming would be paint at hand and quickly and sloppily blast his rifle in a colour that would fit his current theater or operation. Not chirping you. But maybe the sloppy quick and dirty paint job is part of the vibe. It's like perfect copies of Eddie van halens guitar. The actual guitar kinda looked like shit.

[@tomhalla426]

@@coryhaynes8755 I was a painting contractor, and I get pedantic.

[@vladthe_cat]

A set-screw with a set-screw to make sure the set-screw doesn't become unset

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Almost like it wasn't intended to be a precision rifle...

[@vladthe_cat]

@@ForgottenWeapons They're compensating for that by adding more screws, setscrews, and locking screws- You know how it goes, more screws means smaller.. Deviation. Smaller deviation and a more secure mount! 😇

[@mrkeogh]

"Yo dawg, we heard you like set-screws..."

[@PatternRecognitionMusic]

You see this in guitars as well - most commonly in locking studs for bridges.

[@vladthe_cat]

@@PatternRecognitionMusic I'm not surprised lol To be honest, I used to play the violin in middle school so I was thinking of a violin bridge at first, but after some research, I see the difference. A violin's bridge is not the same as a guitar bridge 😐 Today I learned!

[@willy_b_coyote]

0:15 Slight correction here, Ian: Shughart was a Sergeant First Class, not a First Sergeant.

[@Johnnyblash123]

Does that matter like really this is the end of world guys

[@menachem2521]

​@@Johnnyblash123It does matter. Ian is paying tribute to a fallen hero. No is saying it's the end of the world, its just a little correction.

[@Johnnyblash123]

@menachem2521 well he miss spoke he's rank is everywhere

[@menachem2521]

@@Johnnyblash123 exactly he misspoke, and willy here is informing him on that. As you said, it's not the end of the world.

[@LordVader1094]

​@@Johnnyblash123Why did you say anything then? It's a minor correction of Ian misspeaking. Ian even hearted the comment.

[@iang2395]

Dear Ian, thank you for all of the m14 content lately. As a fellow Ian and a fellow m14 owner, it is appreciated.

[@alexshakk]

Ian excellent job as always. There is one photo of Shughart pulling security from a Blackhawk. You can clearly see the AIM1 mounted on his gas tube very similarly to how you did it.

[@stevenwonnacott3669]

Forgotten Weapons is (in my opinion) the most informative and interesting firearms channels on youtube...keep up the great work Ian...cheers!

[@UnknownReloader]

That's a really awesome retro setup but as a rustoleum enjoyier I almost fainted seeing all the runs.

[@bugnut4432]

I groaned a bit as soon as he started spraying 😢

[@heyhayhay247]

@@bugnut4432 and how perfectly do you think a soldier in theater is going to be painting their weapon?

[@billwilson5418]

@@heyhayhay247 Professionally airbrushed, apparently. 🤣

[@bugnut4432]

@@heyhayhay247 it's not particularly difficult to spray an even coat of paint

[@hellcatdave1]

@@bugnut4432 It's also not particularly beneficial to care that much...

[@TheDespairbear]

We need a serise of Ian doing more replica builds like this.

[@AMemeFrom06]

6:09 I appreciate that opening a tube of loctite and immediately going “whoa” as the contents decide to remove themselves inexplicably is a universal experience

[@lenny6281]

would love to see more of this kind of video, very enjoyable to watch.

[@Morbacounet]

I love - DIY restorations - guns - Ian's content Today was a good day.

[@Goc4ever]

Ian, you never cease to amaze me with your fantastic content and i really liked your video about the M14 clone to match the one used by Shugart during the Battle of Mogadishu.

[@cynthiakoehne7004]

I had the shorty carbine XM-14 with the giant laser for lazing targets for artillery targets back in the late 80's very cumbersome and heavy, but it was what we had back then!

[@cundan0484]

Is this the first time we are seeing Ian paint a weapon? if so this is exciting and i wanna see more

[@hazza240]

The guy knows everything about guns, but that was a shocking paint job

[@jamescherney5874]

I bought a "loaded springfield armory M1A". I mounted a IJK 16x FFP scope on it with the Fulton armory mount ( better than the Springfield mount). I like the nice wood stock. I found the best accuracy with 175 grain Berger bullets. I qualfied Long Range Rifleman at Appleseed and have no problem making 500 yard head shots on my home range. Great gun for target or deer.

[@commandZee]

This was a fun new twist on a FW video! Reminds me of Ian and Karls CETME build series from back in the day.

[@James-cr5mc]

I worked with someone who claimed to have been part of the real black hawk down incident. Last name was Black. He has some really nasty scars, chunk if his forearm was missing, and he slept in the same room as I was on one day and he clearly had PTSD, he was having nightmares, screaming in his sleep. It was scary and sad to see.

[@KSpee01]

I'm sad it's not a true BPT mount. Though i don't blame you. It took me 5 years to find one for my clone.

[@coltonensey6129]

I wish they made stocks for the first Ruger .44 Carbine. Yes very cool gun

[@Tomcatx39]

65-inch pounds on the mount and 35 on a simple set screw is crazy they really wanted to make sure they'd hold zero, my god. Lol

[@Tunkkis]

As I've understood, the M14 isn't a particularly good platform for attaching optics (or for much of anything else), so they must've wanted any and all benefits they could get.

[@sabregunner1]

given the m14 wasnt really designed to have an added optics mount, this mount looks to have a good design to take advantage of elements of the rifle to position a mount and have it be quite secure.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

The intention was for a night vision optic, not a precision scope.

[@Autobotmatt428]

@@ForgottenWeapons like the starlight?

[@sulivanmagnum]

​@Autobotmatt428 precisely, going back to the old PVS 2's on M14's

[@handsomerob1223]

I find the Same enjoyment in Ian building a clone or any Gun as I do with him disassembling the ancient prototypes that he normally does. I do one would love more of this! (And maybe a “clone correct” vid on Ian’s 7.62 tanker m1 !)

[@BackyardDogPark9862]

The set screw used to hold the set screw in place needs its own set screw to keep it in place.

[@IndianaJoe3]

Xzibit has entered the chat.

[@ClaymoreM18]

I love the idea of a series about Ian building historic replicas

[@JohnTBlock]

An interesting set-up, Ian. Made all the more so, knowing the man lost his life while trying to save his comrades, with either this weapon or his M-4 in his hands, earning a MOH in the process... A fitting tribute, to the Warrior!

[@wingracer1614]

Doubt it would be an M4. They existed in 1993 so theoretically possible but didn't enter service until 94. Most of the Delta force guys were using CAR 15s.

[@carlmeader]

The Brookfield mount and attatchment system looks almost identical to the Sadlak mount I used for my rifle. It has the same offset washer mechanism to bring the mount flush(ish) with the receiver.

[@mattcormier983]

Even with the crazy torque specs, I'd blue locktite the scope mount screws.

[@bender7889]

I set my M1A up like this. I did put an lpvo on it and no lazar but Shugart was definitely the inspiration for it.

[@BrentWelch-z8i]

Great work Ian. Gunnary Sargent R Lee Ermey would be proud.

[@mburkit]

Isn't the LAM mounted right under the gas port? I can only assume after even firing a magazine, the LAM is covered in carbine.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Yes, it is

[@craigharness3156]

Ian collector of firearms using the old black and decker drill for gunsmithing

[@garethfergusson9538]

We just watched 20mins of Ian Bubbaing a M14 and enjoyed it 🤣🤣

[@AntoineWilliams7118]

God bless you Ian. And God bless America.

[@LordSStorm]

I'd love to see how an M14 is accurized.

[@TheTrueNorth11]

Bedding is really the only thing.

[@idontwanttoputmyname403]

Either a Sage EBR chassis or a Blackfeather chassis, along with some mods to the gas system and flash hider, or unitizing/shimming the gas system, making sure the stock fits, and potentially bedding.

[@MrBioniclefan1]

@@idontwanttoputmyname403yep

[@noahfyan9617]

​@@idontwanttoputmyname403 one of the good points of the polytech clones other than the forged receivers over sprinfield armory castings is that they have a unitized gas block

[@triviszla1536]

very clean build!

[@Gneekman]

Adding my vote for more build videos! This was fun!

[@tedcollins4684]

Very cool video! Thanks Ian!

[@garryrichards4103]

Good video as we expect and off topic it was great to hear Ian say Coyote (sounding the "e") at 18.23.

[@OmegaReaver]

For shame, Ian! Not using the time honoured traditional Dremel for drilling the screw holes for the dummy selector? For shame!

[@davidschaadt3460]

I might get a scope mount for my M-1a standard,but i don't want to remove the stripper clip guide. I like that "GI" feature. But i love the rifle. I also have a Rock-Ola M-14f by James River Armory and i like the Vietnam Field look. Not the gadgets and custom accessories and such. Real nice programs ,Ian.🏆

[@RobinP556]

Really interesting! Here’s something that you might find interesting. I carried an M21 and had some experience with the XM25, back when I carried an M21 a few of them still had all of the full auto bits. No idea why, that’s kind of the opposite of what we were using them for, but apparently someone just didn’t remove it all.

[@apexaustriae9973]

The rifle building videos are really neat. You should continue with that kind of vids. 👍🏻

[@MUCKLEECH]

Wish we could still get these in WA...

[@cynthiakoehne7004]

I have fond memories of the scope mount installation!

[@2xghostx2]

Great work on the Video Ian! i'de love to see you do more clonebuild video's in the future!

[@petesheppard1709]

I have to get my M1A (plain mil-spec clone) out!

[@TomSedgman]

ok today i learned about fix it sticks and i am in love. thanks Ian!

[@steveh1792]

Fixit sticks are nifty.

[@SuperiorAutocraft]

Here's hoping you used PSR's painting tips.

[@ryanlong1]

PLEASE do more of these!

[@billj5645]

I never thought about the laser line of sight. Rifle sights are always mounted above the bore axis so the projectile will normally cross the line of sight twice. The laser is below the bore axis so that means it only crosses the line of laser once.

[@unclebobthe1]

When painting a firearm. Always put a contrasting under coat. If going tan, first paint it a dark color then layer lighter colors on top. It makes the colors pop more and offers greater resistance to scuffing and scratches.

[@denyscpoyner]

308 Winchester bullet drop at 1K yds. 31' / 372.1 inches. APPX .

[@dksdg]

Honestly spot on, and if you’re using IR lasers and nods you are close. 25 yards zero is plenty, you will be way closer than that in real life.

[@hpenaranda01]

I really enjoy his video!

[@pantzOU812]

rattle-canned by gun-jesus himself doubled the value 😊

[@geraldmaybebaby1585]

I think the locking grub screw should have a nylon tip. That, and, what can only be described as, 'spray-painting', is my only criticism. ❤

[@abhisheknakhwa]

I like your vedios because I love mechanical stuff. I am in India. The idea that you can have a giveaway of a gun is outlandish and a bit funny to me. Such a stark difference in the gun culture. Cheers!

[@lyedavide]

Nice job! If you had a properly accurized rifle to begin with, that would be an outstanding sniper rifle. Brilliant!

[@kevinelliott9679]

Definitely do more of this type of video

[@abb1793]

You seem to have done a lot of research but some versions of blackhawk down came with like 3-4+ documentaries or something, maybe some of them might have some info about the rifle.

[@cynthiakoehne7004]

tank about KLUDGE, my laser was mounted on the barrel with metal pipe strapping, wow high tech 80's style!

[@1boortzfan]

Nice looking job Ian.

[@MegaRiffraff]

That’s one cool rifle!👍🏻

[@motorosso3349]

I was hoping you would share the build details. Thanks, Ian!

[@capt.bart.roberts4975]

If forgotten how much M1s kick. I like them, they take a very sensible sized round.

[@Gabthar]

I’m pretty sure Ian used this part for the laser JETH Universal Tactical 20mm Picatinny/Weaver Rail Barrel Mount Clamp for Rifle Scope Flashlight Laser Sight Adapter

[@leerethamel3204]

Where is video of you doing a match with it?

[@ForgottenWeapons]

It will be posting next week.

[@AshleyPomeroy]

​@@ForgottenWeapons It probably wouldn't be tasteful if you rappelled onto the course from a helicopter. But it would be awesome.

[@wacojones8062]

I bought a service grade M1A I think before the Mess in Mogadishu it has a National Match barrel I put National Match Iron Sights on it. Due serious eye problems I have not been shooting for a long time now. Retina has gotten thinner over time.

[@cynthiakoehne7004]

mine was already painted jungle tiger by the armory Vietnam vintage style!

[@bluemarauder6997]

looks like a jam machine with that new scope mount. how are rounds supposed to eject properly every time? i see them hitting directly off of that scope mount and bouncing back into the ejection port causing jams. i may be wrong but im at that part in the video and upon first glance thats what it looks like, furthermore thats why the new scope mount they make for them and was already attached had a gap in it.

[@shauno7582]

More clone builds please Ian 😁 Chris Kyle’s 300wm next

[@OneCanisLupus]

Great movie! Sweet rifle 👍😁

[@johnwetta9385]

Calibrated elbow has a torque setting of ‘Good Enough’.

[@timo2571]

If we assume the red dot is 2" above the bore axis of the rifle and the laser is 2" below the bore axis of the rifle then setting the laser 4" below the red dot will mean it hits 4" below where the red dot would. So if zeroed at 25 yards with the red dot and that is equal to a 200 yard zero with the red dot then the rifle will shoot 4" higher than the laser at both ranges. That means the laser will roughly meet the bullet about 4 inches lower so a zero of about 250-260 yards give or take depending on bullet, velocity, etc. It should be noted that because the laser is below the bore axis there will be only one zero because the bullet sure won't cross the laser as it's rising.

[@eatsleepdrift4494]

lasers are not really for long range uses anyway

[@timo2571]

@@eatsleepdrift4494 Fair. I was just thinking that an under-barrel laser sighted at 25 yards is going to be like two feet high at 200 yards.

[@TheTrueNorth11]

I really think the laser should have been mounted at the end of the stock. Not under the gas block like that. The best source, the painting, shows it as such. The laser absolutely was mounted on the drain hole, it's the only thing that makes sense.

[@noahfyan9617]

Ya they even make screw studs to put in there so u have a stud sticking out to mount things like bipods and I assume lazers

[@TheTrueNorth11]

@@noahfyan9617 Yeah. The decision to mount if forward of the stock is puzzling.

[@bingethinker791]

I picked up 20 M14 wood stocks on eBay years ago for a few bucks apiece. Many with cool markings and a nice wood. Need to pick up an M1A to make a clone.

[@Rqoiz]

What kind of nightvision goggles are you using while setting up the laser? I'm in a hunt for a pair of good goggles for hunting boar here in Sweden.

[@medizinerhaider]

I would like to know aswell

[@JordanFlayer]

@@medizinerhaider dtnvs

[@gonuts4donuts]

yep, I'd like to know. I'm following in case someone has an answer. Those look pretty handy compared to my PVS-14 mounted to a Marine Corps LWH

[@WorkinginRealTime-vv9wl]

Just so you guys know. It seems that YT is unsubscribing people from your channel. I just noticed it myself in watching this video......now off to put my ticket in the hat to hopefully win this amazing rifle.

[@stanislavczebinski994]

Thanks for another great video!! One minor thing: 20:20 25m is the same as 300m - that's true for lasers - not for bullets. You got it the wrong way round - it was a bit late I guess.

[@matt7fly]

@stanislavczebinski994 : I think Ian got it right. The laser is below the barrel and the red dot, so to get to a zero you will have two straight lines, which can intersect at only one point. The bullet on the other hand flies parabolic, so there are two intersects of the trajectory with the sighting line - called near zero and far zero. In this case, 25m (near) and 300m (far).

[@stanislavczebinski994]

@@matt7fly I'm no expert - but I think .308/7.62 Nato would drop at least a bit at 300m....

[@Dagh1]

@@matt7fly Ian is right about the zero in this case, but to me it came off as sounding like it was a property of it being a laser, rather than it being mounted underbarrel.

[@Papieck37]

Ian... Please do a MEUSOC 45 from the same era (1993)...I guess it would have been Variant 2 or 3 at the time and Shughart used it alongside his M14.

[@aleccurts9316]

Beautiful gun!

[@ColburnFreml]

I tried to calibrate fixit sticks at my last job and they were wild and all over the place for torque outputs. I do not recommend using them.

[@idontwanttoputmyname403]

This is certainly more robust than my M14 RAS from KAC… I think I like the ARMS better just for being lower over the action though.

[@jasongcrow5313]

Minor correction. The movie is based on a book which based on the events. The book is excellent.

[@ZappWbrannigan]

This is the best video Ian has ever done, and they are all good! I thoroughly enjoyed watching the gun build. And then using it at the range, superb! If I could like this video twice, I would.

[@joelrodriguez9661]

Ian, you have exceptional taste in firearms. Power tools are another matter. Please let me send you a proper drill.

[@ifyoudontfailyouarenoteven6210]

My Gamo airgun watched the video with me. Now, she wants to be an M14.

[@Hauptmann23]

Awesome. Great job 🇺🇸👍🏻

[@ryankobilansky2500]

Sweet

[@glennpettersson9002]

The Loctite wooo! Been there, done that. 😀

[@dreamingflurry2729]

Come on Ian! Be honest, you just wanted to a) tinker with another one and you wanted one for yourself :) Still, a neat gun - love the M14 (I might have only experienced in video-games, because German gun laws simply SUCK, but I still like it, it reliably drops enemies in games, so I think it also did in RL!)

[@paulhare662]

Its like the 1937 Chevy, 327 powered daily driver of the precision sports world. Do more please. Pick a chassis and let your vision build it.

[@breadgoeswitheverything1607]

I love the m14

[@richardturk7162]

Mounting the dummy kits is super easy but yes you do have to notch the rod so it doesn't contact the op rod plunger. I am curious where you got the dummy kit because the guy that was doing them years ago stopped making them.

[@desperado8605]

You're making it really hard for me not to try to win that beautiful weapon

[@samchapple6363]

❤ I thought you didn’t like.. great series. Mmmm. 7.62. When you need to reach out and touch someone. M14, M1A. Now we got 50 Cal. Semi

[@jjforcebreaker]

Super cool video!

[@peanutbuttertactical]

DIY with Gun Jesus! When will we see more of Ian's Customs?

[@ianray8823]

"Where's the rescue squad?" "We're it" *refuses to elaborate*