Creativity | Episode 01 | How to develop your own 'modules' by patching

[@ernstmolenaar1630]

Cool..!

[@ChainsawCoffee]

Perhaps your reverso module could, in digital, be done this way: sample the first few cycles, reverse the sample, and then play that. But I think you want a "large" segment of sound. Great experiment!

[@planetplex]

I think it’s a great idea for a module! I have some ideas myself I’d love to see made into a module but as you said that doesn’t mean I can’t find a way to patch that functionality! Sometimes I wonder if modules are starting to do too much of the heavy lifting anyways. Hard to say where buying a solution is better than patching one or vice versa. Hmmmm “vice versa” would actually be a cool name for this module you thought of 😎

[@McEnroe911]

Loved it. 🖤

[@walrtbstudios5430]

This is already justification for your 2025 manifesto, and- as usual- excellent inspiration. What may help us mere mortals to keep up is an occasional patch diagram (it need not be anything more than a Sharpie used on a piece of A4). I look forward to the rest of the year!

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I am already developing a format for patch diagrams, a bit like MonoTrail does. But I can't copy him or follow his lead. It needs to be authentic. I am currently experimenting with an artbook, draw diagrams like art and stylize them with photoshop. But it will probably be a collection of powerpoint blocks and arrows. Hey it's just January 6th :).

[@raafmodular]

Ah you impress me once again! I love your way of thinking ❤

[@CinematicLaboratory]

Thanks, Raaf. If all goes well I'll use it on Modular on the Spot. I'll be on the open stage. It will be fun to see, hear and meet you and Estroe.

[@raafmodular]

@@CinematicLaboratoryah that would be so nice! Looking forward to seeing there and you should very definitely perform!

[@loksync]

I dunno. I always found the Morphagene akin to pressing a random button to flip a stretch of audio about. But, that's just me. Would be nice to hear it groove and twist alongside a beat instead of ambient washes.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll put it on my todo list. This is actually a super easy and really cool recipe. I am not sure but it would be weird if I didn't do this before. I'll check my backlog.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

Here's the first one to check out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZKlonuBab-XbZIsi=yVw-D21Y0sPjGIL0

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I've been looking for this one. Can't believe how old it is, it's pre Cinematic Lab :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWapmKOVrdGDr6c

[@Probbie]

Reversio - I like it! Creepy as heck mate 😊. Is it Halloween already? 😮

[@briesmodular]

Wonderful sounds. I think the problem with doing reverse in real time (X2) is 'where does the sound stop, where does it start'. Even thinking about playing back one reversed version in real time makes my head get lost in existential philosophy. I think to be able to reverse a sound it has to first stop or have an arbitrary 'end' (otherwise what are we reversing). But then what about the sound that follows. My best bet is the only way to go about it would be working in a granular way. But the void soon lurks thinking about that as well.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

A simple solution would be to trigger the effect, so the module would know when to record, reverse, add reverb and reverse again. In my 'vision' it works a bit like a tapped delay, but the buckets get more elaborate processing. It doesn't matter that it takes time, these taps need to emerge later anyway, like spooky echoes.

[@briesmodular]

@@CinematicLaboratory I have a delay with two seperate sides that can do reverse delays. I also have a reverb. Hold my coffee.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

@@briesmodular That will definitely work! I tried it with Instruo Lubadh, but it's mono. That's still a problem for a ghost voice :)

[@saren6538]

Rk8 module is great for this with loads of reverb

[@DaveEsse]

Could this be done without any reversing? Have two playbacks of the same reel or sample, play one thru FX, and the other thru just a delay. The FX and delay could be controlled by the same clock, with the delay at perhaps t x 8, and the FX at t x 1. One playback could be the ever-present Disting, and the other playback could be the Morphagene, for those of us who only have one. I will try this out!

[@DaveEsse]

The channel with FX is 100% wet. The channel with delay has no FX.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I don't think it can work without reversing. You'll always need to reverse something, like an inpulse response file on a convolution reverb. I tried that and it sounds amazing. The only 'problem' is the time difference between the source and the effect. When the tail time is two second, you'll need to start playing the reversed tail, and postpone/lag the source playback (the delay tap) for two seconds. Algorithmically this can be done in real time. I have a second Mimeophon on the way which I am sure it will work a bit like the dual Morphs with the benefit of trigger control over playback direction.

[@robriki2]

Sounds like a job for Zoia!

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I am sure Zoia can do it. I am not sure I can do it :). And then I also realize it doesn't get any easier than with Zoia's components.

[@robriki2]

@ do you have one? My guess is that a module exists you have it! I’ll try to do something similar to what you propose and if I succeed, i’ll upload it on patchstorage.

[@desnou]

There is a very sad layer to this video, that it is a kind of revelation/uncommon use of modular to patch your own "modules". This is exactly what modular was all about in the first place, before the modern paradigm of complex modules that in some cases could as well be standalone units.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I am afraid it's your perception that makes it sad. This all has been a joy to do. A creative process is never sad. But I understand what you mean, that's why my favorite gear of 2024 is my Serge collection. Learning how to 'patch program' seems kind of lost. What I am trying to do on this channel is to hopefully help people to see beyond the design specifications of a module.

[@ChainsawCoffee]

It isn't sad, it's joyful! Every time we patch our modules, we can create an instrument that hasn't existed before. Yes, there are many "do-it-all" modules, and those are nice, but perhaps they do too much. This is why for my modules I've focused on modules that do one thing, and do it well.

[@raymondrabillard3586]

Absolutly. Modular today is a joke. I use serge modular because the philosophy is truly modular. It's nor cheap but you do modular. Not use modular like gear who are just effect pedals finally. Peoples of today like superficial, lies, and prostitution. They don't diserve respect.

[@clemensmerkur6411]

Much hate. But mostly true😢​@@raymondrabillard3586

[@geerhoar]

@@raymondrabillard3586I use mostly analog and a lot of Serge-inspired modules, because I got into this for the patching, not menu-diving or key-combos or abrasive digital sounds. My digital modules involve quantizing and sequencing and wave-shaping. WYSIWYG is important to me, so if I want digital, apps work just fine. The trick is getting a tactile controller for apps.

[@michaelkonomos]

Sorry if I misunderstand, but would this mean a ten second delay between turning a knob and hearing the result of that twist?

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I tried a patch with automation and then it's more like an echo, but manually it can take any given time to record and re-record. It depends on the fragment or source.

[@justmakenoise-ww6yq]

some whales out there ☺