The Creation Myth of the Proto Indo-Europeans

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Crecganford

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Balance, order and chaos, the key themes in this creation myth, probably first told 6 to 8,000 years ago. This version, influenced from work by Bruce Lincoln and David Anthony, along with my own research, this is a contemporary telling of a reconstructed creation myth of the Indo-Europeans.
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@ezrafriesner8370
@ezrafriesner8370 5 ай бұрын
As an archaeologist I love these videos! Obviously our professions have very different methods, but we share our ultimate goal in expanding upon the collective knowledge of humanity 🙌
@Diogenes_43
@Diogenes_43 5 ай бұрын
Understanding reconstructed myths could help with the interpretation of finds.
@ezrafriesner8370
@ezrafriesner8370 5 ай бұрын
@@Diogenes_43 precisely, understanding mythological themes and ideas often informs how we might suggest our findings be interpreted
@ezrafriesner8370
@ezrafriesner8370 4 ай бұрын
@@DudeNamedDuncan oh I have, they’re both horrid men with stupid ideas who should be shunned. Any archaeologist can tell you they’re frauds, and are actively trying to mislead the general population in malicious anti-archaeological and anti-scientific ways
@The.BansheeRose
@The.BansheeRose 5 ай бұрын
What a treat. Sitting here witnessing totality of the solar eclipse listening to the creation myth of the Indo-Europeans. Perfect timing, kudos
@charles.e.g.
@charles.e.g. 5 ай бұрын
I think your telling of this primordial tale may be some of your very best work. Not only is it enormously informative and educational, it is also so beautifully written and narrated that there are times when it sounds truly poetic. Thank you for this rare gem. ❤
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your very kind words.
@starhash
@starhash 5 ай бұрын
I do not yet know for sure how these stories trickle into the Hinduism practices today in India, but from a linguistic perspective the words Manus and Yemo bear direct derivatives from their Proto-Indo-European forms into Sanskrit as मनु / Manu and यम / Yam. Manu was an ancient sage and Yama is considered to be the cheerful king who whence dying first became the guard of hell in our stories. And not to ignore the importance of cows and their protection. We still have a saying that goes "A family doesn't starve in drought if they have a cow at home". Fascinating!
@starhash
@starhash 5 ай бұрын
P.S. You mentioned eternal cycles in the universe, which is also mentioned within the Vedas in a similar fashion. In fact, we call the faith/practice as Eternal Duty (or how you interpret it, also as Eternal Religion).
@starhash
@starhash 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this btw!
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
We use the Rig Veda to help reconstruct this myth, and so that is why you see connections, and these connections link to Romans, Greeks, Old Norse, Iranians, Persians, and even some biblical texts.
@milanmadhani323
@milanmadhani323 5 ай бұрын
@@Crecganford Outstanding. If there is a video where you can show the similar constructs of time & Creation between both the Bible and Rig Veda, that would be truly amazing. In the Vedas, time is cyclical. Each major time period, according to the Vedas, consists of a Kalpa. A "kalpa" (or one day & night of Brahma, the first living being) is 4.32 billion years. It consists of 14 sub time periods, known as a "Manvantara," led by a "Manu." Preceding the 1st such Manvantara, there is a "Sandhya" (or "twilight" of Brahma) consisting of 1.728 Million years, and so on and so forth preceding the rest of the remaining Manvantaras. The earth ("Bhu-loka") is submerged in water in each of these "Sandhyas" or twilights of 1.728 million years. Each such "Manvantara" means a duration of time of each Manu ("Manu" = man; "Antara" = interval/term), thus indicating there are MULTIPLE "Manus" leading each cosmological subepoch (14 to be exact). That's not all. Each such "Manvantara" lasts for 306,720,000 Earth years (or, 852,000 divine years, with 1 divine year = 360 of our 4 season-completed 'solar' years) not including Brahma's twilight period of 1.728 million years preceding each such Manvantara. Each Manvantara is then further subdivided into 72 more cycles known as "Yuga Cycle". Each Yuga Cycle consists of 4 Yugas; namely a Satya Yuga (1.728 million years), Dwapara Yuga (1.296 million years), Dwapara Yuga (864,000 years), and Kali Yuga (432,000 years), with each such Yuga Cycle consisting of 4,320,000 years. Completion of 4 such Yugas is a "Maha" (great) Yuga (or Yuga Cycle). It takes 72 such Maha Yugas (cycles), to complete one Manvantara. There are 14 Manvantaras, as mentioned, The current universe, per Wikipedia, is currently being ruled by the 7th such Manu, meaning we are in the 7th Manvantara, 28th Yuga Cycle, in the 4th Yuga (Kali), of which we have only gone through about 5000 of the total 432,000 years of this Kali Yuga. After all the Manvantara's are completed, Creation will be destroyed ("Pralay'), with such destruction equaling 1,728,000 years. And that completes ONE day (and one night) of Brahma (the "kalpa"). One "Month" in Brahmic time (i.e, Brahma's time) means 30 such "days & nights," ie, 30 such Kalpas., or 259.2 billion years 30 x [2 x (306.72 M x 14 + 1.728 x 15) ]. Twelve "months" of Brhama is one "year" in HIS life, and he lives only 100 such cosmic years, constituting a "maha-kalpa" (311.04 trillion of our years). Fifty of Brahma's cosmic "years" have elapsed, and we are now in the "Shveta-Varaha Kalpa" or the 1st cosmic "day" of his 51st cosmic "year." Each Kalpa (cosmic day of Brahma) has a name, according to the Matsya Purana. Each Manu of each Manvantara has a different name. This Manu's name of our time, in Sanskrit, is known as "Vaivasvata," who was the king of ancient Tamil Nadu (southern kingdom of India), before a great flood. This same Manu, was warned of such a great flood, by a fish incarnation of God ("Vishnu"), and thus built a big BOAT which carried the Vedas, his family, and the seven sages "Sapta Rishis" to safety. Sound familiar? Thus we have the concept of CONSTANT dissolutin/destruction followed by creation. All matter is subject to CONSTANT decay and destruction, a similar theme throughout ancient Hindu metaphysics. The Genesis also says God created the Universe (or this Universe anyways), in 6 such "days." It is not clear on what such "day" references, a cosmic day or a human day. The first man, or Manu, is "Adam" and the first woman is "Eve." Beyond that I do not know much of the concepts of time, creation, destruction. Would love to see you publish something which speaks to the Vedas but in line with Christian and Hebrew metaphysics.
@IndoAryan
@IndoAryan 5 ай бұрын
The Nāsadīya Sūkta, also known as the Hymn of Creation, is the 129th hymn of the 10th mandala of the Rigveda. It is concerned with cosmology and the origin of the universe.
@emmagunnerblad6264
@emmagunnerblad6264 Ай бұрын
Sounds a lot like Voluspa (the old Norse mythos) too
@theotheagendashill818
@theotheagendashill818 5 ай бұрын
Its interesting how the Indo-European creation myth was largely replaced with the Uralic "earth-diver" creation myth among the Slavs, although other versions existed
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
Yes, and a Christianized version of the Earth Diver myth at that, which gives us a clue of why it was replaced.
@theotheagendashill818
@theotheagendashill818 5 ай бұрын
​@@Crecganford wait so you mean that the earth-diver myth appeared amongst the Slavs only after christianisation?
@shanegooding4839
@shanegooding4839 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like the Christianised version offers clues to its replacement not its appearance.
@mver191
@mver191 2 ай бұрын
The Slavs very much had vedic/Iranian like Indo-European myths before. Even to this day some terms correspond between the two. Like Agni (vedic fire god) and ogni (fire in slavic languages). @@theotheagendashill818
@annawoudstra6574
@annawoudstra6574 5 ай бұрын
I can easily imagine you telling this story on a pleasantly warm summer eve to a group of companions gathered around a campfire, as I imagine those who first told it did thousands of years ago :)
@Bjorn_Algiz
@Bjorn_Algiz 5 ай бұрын
Already got some coffee ready and about to tune in and watch.😊 can't wait for this indeed brother.❤
@shanedussault740
@shanedussault740 5 ай бұрын
Coffee! Heresy!
@Bjorn_Algiz
@Bjorn_Algiz 5 ай бұрын
@@shanedussault740 😅 hehehe
@HangrySaturn
@HangrySaturn 5 ай бұрын
It shoulda been tea
@gabork5055
@gabork5055 5 ай бұрын
The beginning of this story actually sounds a lot more scientifically accurate/plausible than what later religions came up with.
@bradrcool
@bradrcool 5 ай бұрын
Crecganford is just the best! What a great way to start my day. Thanks for posting this
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@DruidicOrthodoxAmerica
@DruidicOrthodoxAmerica Ай бұрын
Quite a profound composition. I will be keeping this lore and passing it down :)
@kirgan1000
@kirgan1000 5 ай бұрын
It is the creation myth of the Norse fate thousands of years later, details differ, but the major concepts are there, like the cow, order vs chaos, the brothers, the sacrifice/slaying of a giant, to build the world out of his body parts.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
That is because the Old Norse myth had significant influence from Indo-European cultures.
@kirgan1000
@kirgan1000 5 ай бұрын
@@Crecganford I know Norse fate have a Indo-European orgin, I was so surprise that it was still so close to the "original" fate thousands of years later.
@Ryz414
@Ryz414 5 ай бұрын
These myths can tell us so much about our past and understand of the universe.
@majidbineshgar7156
@majidbineshgar7156 5 ай бұрын
Thank you very interesting , incidentally regarding that matter , in the film Prometheus directed by Ridley Scot , humanity is imagined having been created and instructed by extraterrestrial entities "the engineers " now I mentioned that because in the film the android was able to communicate with those beings only via " proto-indo-european language " hinting that " indo-european languages for their elegance , beauty and sublime power must have been brought to humanity from a higher intellectual realm.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
Yes, that was quite a clever scene, and from that a book called Grammar of the Indo-Europeans - Prometheus Edition was made. And a solid piece of work it is.
@kevinmurphy65
@kevinmurphy65 5 ай бұрын
This is an awesome addition to your library! Really well done! Thank you!
@christopherfelser
@christopherfelser 5 ай бұрын
This is a great format.
@WACkZerden
@WACkZerden 5 ай бұрын
I agree.. And I'll say: while I like the long presentations, I also appreciate these shorter videos!
@matthemming9105
@matthemming9105 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! Perfect timing, as I'm sitting here in Toronto, watching the Moon eat the Sun while listening to this lovely rendition.
@panninggazz5244
@panninggazz5244 5 ай бұрын
thank you for taking the time to create this video
@HalloweenHalloween-sc4jo
@HalloweenHalloween-sc4jo 4 ай бұрын
I can see dark souls got some inspiration from this tale. Great Narration!
@maxtrevor9910
@maxtrevor9910 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. I really appreciate the shorter than usual length. I know you have so much to say and it can be hard to trim things down, but sometimes its hard for me to make time for longer videos.
@miguellimzon9317
@miguellimzon9317 5 ай бұрын
To get a visual storytelling of the earliest creation myth that predates other ancient cultures is the both entertaining and enlightening. Thank you for this video sir 🙏
@nod55106
@nod55106 5 ай бұрын
Wonderful telling of this story. The best i've heard. thank you so much!
@alfreddaniels3817
@alfreddaniels3817 3 ай бұрын
Also interesting is that the first brothers were twinns and one was sacrificed to create order. A practice still known.
@Vlow52
@Vlow52 5 ай бұрын
It’s very sad that despite all the progress and enormous variations of information a human mind can only describe its consciousness and nothing else. Probably, it’s the universal thinking limit: “There was nothing until a mind has formed and started to blindly divide and name every thing that it could possibly comprehend”.
@gaufrid1956
@gaufrid1956 5 ай бұрын
Cows are important. My wife and I have two Brahman cows here in Mindanao Philippines. It's easy to understand why cows were such a great part of the Proto-Indo-European creation myth.
@TioDeive
@TioDeive 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. Thanks to your videos I developed an interest in mythology and this has brought a lot of new knowledge and entertainment to my life. I'm now quite curious about PIE, prehistory and everything related to that. Thank you again, it's a always a great experience watch your videos.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing how much my videos have inspired you, there is a lot more to tell and so I hope you keep watching.
@Robert-gc9gc
@Robert-gc9gc 5 ай бұрын
Beautiful, after seeing the eclipse today I really feel this deeply. Good timing ❤
@MatthewCaunsfield
@MatthewCaunsfield 5 ай бұрын
A lovely tale, thanks for bringing it together
@thebordoshow
@thebordoshow 5 ай бұрын
great video! I just made a video where I cover Caucasian version of Manu and Yemo, Manuka and Januka. It has a lot of similarities to this reconstructed myth but its more of a Flood myth than creation of the world and has the Bull fight the dragon. What I've researched (like Hindu Manu or Mazdian Yimo) its mostly about the destruction of the old world and recreation of the new, rather than outright a creation myth. maybe its like this in more eastern stories. keep up the good work
@MarcusCactus
@MarcusCactus 5 ай бұрын
The video is proposed with a French-translated title. Hum! It reads: " The myth of indo-european creation " instead of " the i-e myth of cr." That is why I never use the expression Artificial Intelligence. Say Artificial Stupidity.
@OmegaWolf747
@OmegaWolf747 5 ай бұрын
And from this, we get stories like Marduk defeating Tiamat, Heracles defeating the Lernian Hydra, Thor defeating Jormungandr, and St. George defeating the dragon.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
I think the Marduk connection is less likely, but the others, absolutely.
@funkrabbit6599
@funkrabbit6599 5 ай бұрын
@@Crecganford well, it seems so similar to the splitting of Yemo to create the cosmos as we know it. Marduk splits Tiamat in two pieces which become the waters above and the waters below. I thought the same thing.
@KetsaKunta
@KetsaKunta 5 ай бұрын
The slaying of a multi headed serpent and the herding of cattle brings Hercules to my mind. Fascinating myth.
@Malennius
@Malennius 24 күн бұрын
Sounds like an intro to an upcoming dark souls game
@penneyburgess5431
@penneyburgess5431 5 ай бұрын
Beautiful. Thank you.
@oki9395
@oki9395 5 ай бұрын
I always love your video. This video reminds me to your very first video. Your style has been improved over time ❤
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching, and the kind feedback. I do try and improve where I can, but there is still a way to go.
@AhJodie
@AhJodie 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for a beautifully done video.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
And thank you for watching.
@gergelybakos2159
@gergelybakos2159 3 ай бұрын
Thanks. A strangely Girardian, unsettling narrative...
@ВладимирСоломатин-л4м
@ВладимирСоломатин-л4м 5 ай бұрын
Basque mythology for diversity
@chriselliott4621
@chriselliott4621 5 ай бұрын
Would be best taught and told from the Basque themselves.
@chocoquark4831
@chocoquark4831 5 ай бұрын
Yay, stories older than indoeuropeans! This will be very interesting.
@BaltimoresBerzerker
@BaltimoresBerzerker 5 ай бұрын
He does a good amount of non indo European myths. But that's his academic focus if I remember correctly. So he does mostly indo European stuff
@erikhoff5010
@erikhoff5010 5 ай бұрын
Very nice, excellent! Thanks for sharing. Skal
@richardburns3543
@richardburns3543 5 ай бұрын
That was great. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@shanegooding4839
@shanegooding4839 5 ай бұрын
Interesting how the Germanic version moved Mannus into the position of Tuisto's son. Assuming that Tuisto is a form of Yemo of course. While the Norse Odin is Ymirs grandson.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
Yes, but we also have to be a little cautious on the reliability of this, but also the myth changed the three parts of Yemo’s body to three regions of land. And so there would be an evolution dependant on society and the environment. What is really interesting is how Manu disappears from the Old Norse myth, a myth that probably influenced the Germanic myths initially. Where did Manu go, the reasonably young god Odin.
@Pontiff03
@Pontiff03 5 ай бұрын
@@Crecganford One more thing in the Indic myth... Manu was a king... where the god of cosmic order Vishnu... took the form of a fish and informed Manu about the upcoming flood that would destroy humanity... and asked him to get onto an Ark, and carry all the necessary things, 7 sages, food supplies and animals with him. Tell me why would Manu be added into a story which is completely similar to the Semetic-biblical stories? A character that was supposed to be the primordial God. Doesn't really make sense... and also Manuus is the word used to describe a person in India and or Old Persia... which is (Manushya) although Yemo/Yama was sacrificed... both of these guys would later become to be the Sons of the SUN God in the Indic Faith... I'm kinda missing out on something things here btw...
@ernestschroeder9762
@ernestschroeder9762 5 ай бұрын
Another great show.
@Baptized_in_Fire.
@Baptized_in_Fire. 5 ай бұрын
Nice. I still would like to hear older stories that don't have recent additions, like farming, in them. I'll guess that 15,000 years old and back is where they would be found. I would like to know about our carnivorous past and what people believed when they knew fatty meat was life. I've never seen a cave painting of a salad or potato.
@donkfail1
@donkfail1 5 ай бұрын
What a treat! What is the origin of the name "Ingri"? It's very close to the female "Ingrid", a quite common name here in Sweden (and I think in all Scandinavia + Iceland). Similar male names here being Inge and Ingvar. But I guess the origin of Ingri is other than old Norse.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
It was meant to be Ng Whi, but I didn’t pick up the mistake in the captions.
@majidbineshgar7156
@majidbineshgar7156 5 ай бұрын
It must probably be cognate with " Ignis = fire " in Latin-> proto -indo-european *h₁n̥gʷnís (“fire”).
@freedom2012inworld
@freedom2012inworld 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the story ❤
@AbhiN_1289
@AbhiN_1289 5 ай бұрын
Great video! 👍 In India, I believe the Austroasiatic cultures have given birth to the Vedic idea of the cosmic egg.
@antidweller6373
@antidweller6373 5 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the Bundahišn.
@Rebecca-d7b
@Rebecca-d7b 5 ай бұрын
Pretty awesome story thank you.
@elizabethford7263
@elizabethford7263 5 ай бұрын
Wow. So many of these these and elements are at the core of our current modern existence. Of all the questions I have, the predominant one is: how would the world be different if the primordial myths did not involve sacrifice and salvation?
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
If you don't sacrifice something how do you show you really believe in it?
@Ponakalaranjit456
@Ponakalaranjit456 5 ай бұрын
Instead of Ranjit P I am gonna change my KZbin channel as a channel dedicated to myths and folklore of the World.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
I hope you are successful, you can never see too much content about myths!
@SunSaiko
@SunSaiko Ай бұрын
I see where Ripley Scot got his lore from
@joannemccuaig6041
@joannemccuaig6041 5 ай бұрын
Very cool story!
@glennsimonsen8421
@glennsimonsen8421 5 ай бұрын
The Genesis account is the only creation story which begins with a God outside of Time and Space. God speaks the material Universe into existence and remains outside of SpaceTime. Every other creation myth begins with something material. This one begins with some cosmic seeds which hatch out hot and cold mist which go on to make gods and cows and such. Where'd the seeds come from?
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
If you take Genesis 1:1-2 apart, you realize the god it refers to is Marduk, and so not a god out of time and space. But I can understand why believers in the Abrahamic faiths would think that based on translations of those lines.
@archismanrudra9336
@archismanrudra9336 5 ай бұрын
The first part of the video seems almost a word to word translation of the nasadiya sukta from the rigveda
@Andre-c6z
@Andre-c6z 23 күн бұрын
How did the gods come into being? did Manu directly create them too?
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 23 күн бұрын
The gods appeared with time. I talk about this in some of my other videos.
@nukhetyavuz
@nukhetyavuz 5 ай бұрын
skyfather gökturks tengriism ancient siberia animalism ... a time where ancient people were among animals,hundreds of thousands of animals,and where they would most probably be happy encountering each other,and exchanging cultures,rather than eradicating each other... 🧿
@fukoff-i2k
@fukoff-i2k 5 ай бұрын
warfare was more common then
@majidbineshgar7156
@majidbineshgar7156 5 ай бұрын
Tian (天) is one of the oldest Chinese terms for heaven , since the proto-turkic peoples lived side by side Chinese civilisation then they must have borrowed that cosmology Ten-ri( cognate with chinese Tian (天) ) from the Chinese.
@nukhetyavuz
@nukhetyavuz 5 ай бұрын
@@majidbineshgar7156 thanks for that info...i always defend this...once most thing,especially what considers spirituality and humanity was more globla,universal and unbiased... people shared more,especially of similiar cultures,and when they encountered a different one,they taught each other...nothing like manipulaton,greed,ego and stuff...there was only one god...the sky god... greeks took it and named it skyfather...it was most probably scythian,prototurk origin,stemming from siberia...greetings to china🌎
@theotheagendashill818
@theotheagendashill818 5 ай бұрын
​@@majidbineshgar7156iirc they're not cognates and the ancient Chinese word for Tian was quite different than its present-day form
@majidbineshgar7156
@majidbineshgar7156 5 ай бұрын
@@nukhetyavuz Thank you yes Indeed all humanity share some common elements of mythology and even underlying common linguistic structure , however Scythians were not Turkic , and I know that in Turkey as well as some Turkic speaking countries their official education claim as If Scythian had been Turkic, while one should note that Greeks and Latin historians related Scythians to Persian world and the direct descendants of Scythian Alans i.e. Ossetians have survived who speak an Iranic language .
@Valdagast
@Valdagast 5 ай бұрын
Excellent!
@alexisjackson8351
@alexisjackson8351 Ай бұрын
6:12 that is the stuff the Vikings took to go berserk isn't it! ❤
@Noeaskr
@Noeaskr 5 ай бұрын
Needs to be written in a meter!
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
That will be published in my book.
@Noeaskr
@Noeaskr 5 ай бұрын
@@Crecganford what meter did you choose?
@patrickbureau1402
@patrickbureau1402 5 ай бұрын
sorry - couzin Do you know this book ? - change me as a teenager ... IMAGES ENCYCLOPEDIA by Allan Wesler PHD FN'84. It surveys 367 images from the Terminal Ice Age decorated caves (the first art in the world) through primitive and ancient civilizations to today's societies and religions; and conjoins the images within the singularity of a graphic Snake Ring Story by advanced toolmakers in the Terminal Ice Age caves initiating
@MichaelLeBlanc-p4f
@MichaelLeBlanc-p4f 5 ай бұрын
Yaweh - Storm God ?
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
It is said that Yahweh was at one point in his evolution a Storm God.
@MichaelLeBlanc-p4f
@MichaelLeBlanc-p4f 5 ай бұрын
@@Crecganford Indeed. Caught a show just recently. Yaweh was doing OK till he met Lilith. Don't recall if that's what turned him into a Storm God or not : )
@thewizard4200
@thewizard4200 5 ай бұрын
This video is beautiful.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@victor_bueno_br
@victor_bueno_br 5 ай бұрын
Beautiful!
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Samuel42069
@Samuel42069 5 ай бұрын
So in this tale that warior was only source in the eyes of other humans that he "defeated" the serpent. What if serpent just gave it to him because he liked people and then that warior lied just as his favorite storm god lied?
@judewarner1536
@judewarner1536 5 ай бұрын
This is an ancient myth, and it is what it is. Surely, it does not require falsification in a 21st century reimagining?
@Merikat07
@Merikat07 5 ай бұрын
Is the Greek myth of Apollo slaying Python related at all to Trito and the serpent?
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
Yes, I have made some videos about dragon slaying, however the Apollo myth has less Indo-European influence than some of the others, as the hero isn’t Trito and no bovines are rescued.
@Merikat07
@Merikat07 5 ай бұрын
@@Crecganford I see, thank you for the reply! I visited Delphi last May, it was one of the most magical places I’ve ever been and I couldn’t help think of the hero slaying a reptile serpent
@billyclyde5129
@billyclyde5129 3 ай бұрын
How do we know the indo-europeans believed that? What's the source for this? It sounds awfully Babylonian-ish. According to what I have read we don't have any reference to the idea of kingship until the early dynastic period.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 3 ай бұрын
Great questions, and I have made many videos covering this. Look for the one titled "Reconstructing the Proto Indo-European Myth of Creation" which should answer many of your questions, and I hope allow you to have many more.
@csolisr
@csolisr 5 ай бұрын
And now we wait for somebody to translate it to Dnghu a.k.a. Proto-Indo-European
@Spoeism
@Spoeism 5 ай бұрын
The Tocharian bridge Eastern beliefs with Western.
@wramper
@wramper 5 ай бұрын
Pretty good!!!
@jamiegallier2106
@jamiegallier2106 5 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@Leo-us4wd
@Leo-us4wd 4 ай бұрын
You mention an ocean God, may it have been either the Black sea or the Caspian sea or perhaps both?
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 4 ай бұрын
The Caspian Sea may well have been more in the minds of the earliest Indo-European speakers when creating their myths. However, in truth, gods were more like spirits, the "life force" of nature, and so not as we really consider them today.
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ 5 ай бұрын
Logic and internal consistency are not very important to those inventing mythology!😂 Still, a well presented video!👏
@eaglethefox
@eaglethefox 10 күн бұрын
Can this be connected to the story of Jesus and his twin? Sacrifice. Birth of a new world?
@chadgoose7886
@chadgoose7886 4 ай бұрын
Dark souls intro
@darktyrannosaurus22
@darktyrannosaurus22 26 күн бұрын
Who is here from Prometheus?
@iamdigory
@iamdigory 5 ай бұрын
There is no way that this is disconnected from the mesoamarican hero twins
@rosstaytie3712
@rosstaytie3712 5 ай бұрын
ta
@Misandry101
@Misandry101 5 ай бұрын
Great job articulating the root of Gilgamesh, the signs form astrology and many other primordial stories. however, I would add that That there is a lot of evidence behind yemo being intersexed... Why were the Greeks and Romans so terrified of intersex children that they destroyed them from birth?..... They are not the only cultures where these people are. Centerstaged
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
Only in specific cultures where Yemo is considered the first primordial being, and so often Manus has been replaced… for example in the Old Norse, where Yemo is Ymir, and Odin has taken the place of Manus. And the reason for this is far to complex to write here, but I could make a video about it one day.
@Misandry101
@Misandry101 5 ай бұрын
@@Crecganford Fair enough. Good job on summing up almost countless human histories into 7 minutes
@gregvondare
@gregvondare 4 ай бұрын
As I hear this narrative, I am struck that there are many parallels in the Big Bang theory of a disrupted singularity and the cosmic inflation that followed it. Coincidence? There are many derivates of the creation story, but this one as the potentially oldest and most central amazes me with its plausible details (in the early parts).
@patrickbureau1402
@patrickbureau1402 5 ай бұрын
So ... Aboot Middle Earth... Aint on me map..
@KapiKaine
@KapiKaine Ай бұрын
Was this made by averaging every indo-european religion?
@Crecganford
@Crecganford Ай бұрын
No, weightings we're given to the older one, also g with influence and knowledge of human migrations over the last 6,000 years.
@christianandersen5521
@christianandersen5521 Ай бұрын
So close to the nordic religion. The god is even named ymer.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford Ай бұрын
The Nordic stories came from this.
@WorldWideLoveNow
@WorldWideLoveNow 9 күн бұрын
Indo-European is a theorized linguistic and cultural category to evade the fact that Africans are the original Europeans, and their languages and cultures (combined with some genetics from the Neanderthals) are what makes Europeans somewhat different from Africans. Latin symbols and alphabet are approximately 80% directly from the ancient Kemetic (Egyptian) hieroglyphs. White Western European religious lies: Just like Jesus, are mostly stolen from the Kemetic (Egyptian) Horus, Heru, and later Hellenistic / Greek Serapis, with some aspects of the Persian (Aryan aka Iranian) Mithra and Jehovah (letter J created in Italy approx 1524 AD) which was once Yahweh (from a pagan, polytheistic Canaanite religion that also had gods such as El), that Yahweh aka YHWH was a Canaanite polytheistic deity Yahweh aka YHWH (I am that I am). YHWH Etymology: It is directly derived from the pagan deity Yahway. The Tetragrammaton is the four-letter Hebrew theonym יהוה‎, the name of God in the Hebrew Bible.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 9 күн бұрын
Indo-European is a hypothesised language, and I explain modern human dispersals in my latest video on mythology. And mythology is just that, myth, not historic fact, so why get so worked up about it? They're stories, and humans tell stories, and stories evolve and merge and adapt to society and landscape. I think you need to have a cup of tea and relax, and if you want to critique me, please provide decent academic sources rather than a jumbled hotspotch of information.
@WorldWideLoveNow
@WorldWideLoveNow 8 күн бұрын
@@Crecganford Hypothesis as in speculation. Why are you denying the actual evidence that 80% of Latin and English alphabet symbols come from Kemet (today erroneously called Egypt)?.
@WorldWideLoveNow
@WorldWideLoveNow 8 күн бұрын
@@Crecganford@Crecganford Many of us get worked up because people such as yourself are presenting your videos not as speculation and fun but as academically sound and as having intellectual and scientific integrity. Gas lighting by you is not an appropriate way to respond to scientific facts and archaeological and linguistic evidence. Is your channel for gossip?
@arkemiffo
@arkemiffo 5 ай бұрын
I wonder what the source is for the milk from the cow. You specifically said "they could even use its milk to feed themselves and their children". That's what I'm having problem believing it's actually part of the original myth. Lactose tolerance most likely began about 10.000 years ago, according to genetic studies. At the most densest tolerance population today, it's only roughly 75%, while in other parts of the world, only 25%, and that's after 10.000 years. This myth would've been started only about 2.000 years after lactose tolerance started to become a thing, and it would be rare at this stage. I'm not saying that it is false, or incorrect that it's part of the myth, but I'm saying I would love to see some more in-depth about this, as it ties into what we know about the pre-historic eras.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
This is a very interesting part of the myth, and one I will expand upon either later this year or next once my research on it has been completed. We must understand that the nurturing nature of cattle is of a Neolithic Farming influence, and so the earliest myth had this within it, before the cattle became more sacred.
@DrD0000M
@DrD0000M 5 ай бұрын
There are lactose-intolerant cultures that still used milk via fermenting processes that convert the lactose to digestible sugars. Fermented milk, yogurts and certain hard cheeses can be eaten by those with intolerance. Cultures in Sudan and Tibet used fermented milk products. And don't forget, children up to age 5 everywhere can drink straight milk and even in majority lactose intolerant societies, there are still thousands that are tolerant of lactose into adulthood. Also, lactose intolerance is usually not 100%, that is intolerant people still produce the lactase enzyme, just a very tiny amount, so they can still sample dairy foods within small limits.
@Pentagathusosaurus
@Pentagathusosaurus 5 ай бұрын
No initial instructions to make a cup of tea Video ruined
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
Ah! I knew I was missing something... many apologies, I'll sacrifice a cup of tea to the tea gods to try and make up for this terrible tragedy.
@sunnysuryani5674
@sunnysuryani5674 5 ай бұрын
Wasn't this already posted before?
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
This has been rewritten as a standalone piece, and so no, this has not been posted before.
@happybeejv
@happybeejv 5 ай бұрын
Remember that ye died for you Happy esther
@robertd9067
@robertd9067 5 ай бұрын
I have never been this early, so Raise your Swords in honor of the Sky Father today and take all the cows you see, clearly those other people stole them from you and your kinsmen
@debrajohnson3233
@debrajohnson3233 5 ай бұрын
Such a beautiful story, full of love, respect, and perseverance. Thank you, Jon
@gabecunha2411
@gabecunha2411 5 ай бұрын
Yemo! Yemo! Yemo!
@animeshkumar1684
@animeshkumar1684 5 ай бұрын
Lot of elements of Hinduism are from these myths
@abramjones9091
@abramjones9091 5 ай бұрын
Imagine the sociopathic liar that originally made this stuff up, misleading everyone, setting the precedent
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
Welcome to religion…
@ximono
@ximono 5 ай бұрын
One liar? It was all of us who made the stories, with our imagination, trying to grasp reality. Our stories are powerful, so deception is bound to happen, regardless of what story is being told. We have stories about that too. I think those are the ones we need to be telling more often.
@abramjones9091
@abramjones9091 5 ай бұрын
@@ximono I didn't mean literally 1 person, but it was generally a select few key people making up stuff. It wasn't always as innocent as you make it sound. Either way, it takes someone with a pretty big ego to start telling everyone what happened when they don't actually know what happened. The same problem exists today, though it shouldn't by now
@abramjones9091
@abramjones9091 5 ай бұрын
@Nix91 you're overly romanticizing it. I'm also not saying it was all deliberately malicious, though a lot of it was. It was certainly often unsavory characters making stuff up and misleading people. And yes, sometimes it was people trying to find answers as well. Regardless, it set a precedent for the terrible societies we live in now. And again, humans should have overcome those faults by now but continue to act like primitives.
@Albanach-je1nk
@Albanach-je1nk 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like the balade of Donald Trump
@damnyourpasswords
@damnyourpasswords 5 ай бұрын
So this story was made After humans domesticated animals. It seems that the moment hu-mans found a continuous supply of food, they started thinking and making stories.
@argentandroid5732
@argentandroid5732 5 ай бұрын
It's nice sometimes, just hearing the story without all the breakdown and references. I appreciate the research and effort, but sometimes I just want to hear a good story.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
I do have the Crecganford Reads channel, which I will slowly add that sort of content too.
@feliciagaffney1998
@feliciagaffney1998 2 ай бұрын
​@@Crecganford 😮 You should mention that once in a while! I had no idea, and it never comes up in my feed! Subbing now! 💗
@feliciagaffney1998
@feliciagaffney1998 2 ай бұрын
​@@Crecganfordbe sure to add this one, too! 💚
@milanapeacock6062
@milanapeacock6062 5 ай бұрын
Beautiful. Thank you.
@NIDELLANEUM
@NIDELLANEUM 5 ай бұрын
I am writing a thesis on mythology, and your videos have been a huge source of inspiration. This will be one as well, I know. Thank you for being this huge source of knowledge
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, and I hope my future videos help as well.
@colorpg152
@colorpg152 5 ай бұрын
@@Crecganford for the love of christ will you please stop with the asmr it almost impossible to watch the video
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 5 ай бұрын
@@colorpg152 This is just my voice, no effects, just me reading out loud.
@davidramos5559
@davidramos5559 5 ай бұрын
@@Crecganford i LOVE your voice
@user-jl2kk8ps9i
@user-jl2kk8ps9i 18 күн бұрын
It's crazily similar to the Bible story of creation and Adam and Eve, but now I've learned that the Indo-European stories had some influence on the Babylonians and Canaanites, so it makes sense
@ludwigvanbeethoven5176
@ludwigvanbeethoven5176 5 ай бұрын
Tea time 🫖
@theunknownfragment5473
@theunknownfragment5473 5 ай бұрын
Sweet I get my favorite subject in ASMR form
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