The OLDEST Creation MYTH in World, and its Origins

[@Crecganford]

Do you have any old stories you would like me to look into?

[@50hzAva]

On a more academic note, I think it was Dumazil who talks about the Asir Vanir was as a indo-european through line of the first two functions asserting over the third (or something to that effect, it's been a long time since I read it). Or just something on the war in general. Please excuse the spelling, dyslexia, and auto correct falls short on these topics

[@whatever41421]

Sorry not really related to your question but do you know where would be a good starting place to find a collection of these various myths- not really for study but I'd like to read them to my kids one day so more of a storybook style

[@whatever41421]

Oh but also a question related to your original question: are there any stories we can trace back to a time where there were multiple 'species' of hominid? And are other species of hominid likely present as motifs in any of our ancient stories?

[@uponeldritchshores]

Vidar and his possible relationship to Vishnu- a silent god who is spoken little of in the Edda but plays a major part in the world returning and Ragnarok! Tapadh Leat! Your channel and work has been nothing short of awesome!

[@jessicaclakley3691]

I’d love to know the story and lore behind the beautiful tattoo art on your chest if you would care to share (if not too forward of me and/or too personal for you)

[@davidjuby7392]

I am Native Canadian and as part of Cayuga mythology there is the story of the Sky woman who fell to earth. As the story goes, other people believe other things but this is what we believe. Early on the world was all water and there were the sky people who lived in the clouds. One day a sky woman was looking down through a hole and accidentally fell to the waters below. all the animals gather together to try and help her but they soon realized that she needed land for her to survive. All the animals tried to dive down and bring up some earth so she could have some land upon which to live. One by one they all tried and failed until finally the muskrat was able to dive deep enough to find earth and bring it back up. Eventually the land grew and became solid. The sky woman was then able to populate the land.

[@jimmysmith2249]

I remember hearing about the Otter mythology long ago in my childhood. I think it was on cbc.

[@littlejourneyseverywhere]

What a beautiful path you tread, sister ❤️ a gorgeous story of the creation of humanity and the Earth as we know it

[@tigerlily2941]

Similar to the legend I grow up with, that being a large tuna brought mud up from the waters below and placed it on the back of a turtle. Thus land was formed. Well after the bever used their tale to pack the mud.

[@timefoolery]

Interesting! Thanks for sharing.

[@davidjuby7392]

@@littlejourneyseverywhere thank you

[@Kompieter]

If you stay until the end of the video... who stops watching these before they end? They are fascinating from beginning to end and absolute gems. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and insights Jon.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you

[@citizenbxtr883]

Punch line reveal while I was on the porcelain throne. I’m not sure what to make of this but I might stop watching videos until the end

[@yinyangsaladgang8789]

I dunno the whole "male pregnancy envy" thing from the notoriously debunked Sigmund Freud kinda turned me off. Freud was enamoured with his own theories and applied them to everything, it's as absurd as taking the Oedipus complex seriously as a psychological phenomenon and then inferring that the Hindu texts must've been written by a bunch of men who wanted to sleep with their dominant mothers. Honestly I think the assumption that because the stories sometimes featured men was some form of ancient sexism is quite dubious, it seems much more like a modern feminist interpretation of ancient writings, and seems to ignore of the symbolic idea of the father and the masculine principle (or yang) as being an energy or force that is ascribed male attributes, and does not actually refer to biological manhood in any way.

[@jeffo4817]

I quit

[@juanmiguelreyesguerr]

@@yinyangsaladgang8789 You have just provided a case in Freud’s point.

[@Astro-Markus]

I'm simply fascinated by the fact that we can reconstruct pieces of the culture of our ancestors from tens of thousands of years ago. This is yet another example of doing away with the prejudice about early humans being grunting and primitive imbeciles. We have to realize: they were probably very much like us today - just starting civilization from scratch. They have been asking the same questions we are looking into today. Who are we? Where did we come from? Where did the world/universe come from?

[@vampiricagorist6979]

That, right there, is why I’m so obsessed with this field of research. I enjoy learning about the ancestors that we’ve forgotten. I absolutely hate the common conception of our ancestors as idiots who didn’t understand technology. I’d actually argue that they were a lot more remarkable than many of us today in the sense that, as you said, they quite literally tamed the natural world and started civilization without knowing anything that we do today. I’d love to speak to some of these people. I’m sure they were absolutely awesome people, those early human scientists and engineers.

[@derekfume8810]

@@vampiricagorist6979 You shouldn't be so optimistic about them too. Don't overestimate. The key observation is - they were exactly the same 10k BC as humans now days.

[@vampiricagorist6979]

@@derekfume8810 I don’t doubt that. I’m just trying to emphasize how remarkable these people were to figure out things like agriculture with no prior help. That isn’t to discount the many innovations made my our more recent ancestors, but there’s a level of respect that I think we ought to apply to the most ancient of our ancestors, even if we may never know their names.

[@TheSulross]

@@derekfume8810 I don't know, the WW2 generation were loads more capable people on average than people today. Even today's farmers don't hold a candle to the abilities of that generation so can well image the generations from tens of thousands prior were very different than moderns - just as a generation barely removed from the current crop of moderns were a far more resilient and capable people

[@hermanhale9258]

@@TheSulross Yes, people living on paradise islands where the weather was always nice and the food was plentiful didn't have to be very brainy, but people who moved into areas where you could starve or freeze if you weren't smart enough to adapt to conditions had to be brainy.

[@vemuriyasaswini803]

Its really interesting. In Hindu stories we believe the goddess (Mata) who was a Shaktiswarupini (who is the form of energy) existed in dormant state and was surrounded by Om (believed as the first sound of universe) and when Om requested Mata to wake up, seeing the vast nothingness around her she created 3 entities Brahma, Vishnu, Maheshwara who had to attain knowledge and once they were ready each was given a task to perform. Brahma was to create life, Vishnu was to help it sustain and thrive, Maheswara was to end it to continue the cycle. Brahma's creations were the Rishi's one of whom along with his wives gave rise to Suras, Asuras, Pakhu, Naga, Manushyas. Suras and Asuras had conflict of interest and later came to be known as Devas and Danavas respectively whom most people translate to Gods and Demons. According to Hindu Myths there is a difference between Good and Evil however all Suras(Gods) aren't Good and all Asuras(Demons) aren't bad. Either way, only after Suras were created is when humans came about. We have many instances when creation might cease to exist in our mythology however one of the three main entities Vishnu helps in sustaining us. One of such times is when Vishnu takes the form of a tortoise to save Earth and another time he takes the form of a wild bore to save Bhudevi (probably land but usually depicts the entire earth).

[@MedinipuriTuka036]

Yeah... we are also part of Shakta sect of Hinduism and follow a similar creation myth

[@loricrane5315]

The older you get and the more you learn the more you see the basic pattern. Fascinating.

[@MichaelVandeventer-c3q]

Yeah the pattern is people make up retarded when they don't know the answer to a question. Just so you know every civilization that grew up around the river valley that tends to flood has a flood myth every civilization that didn't grow up around River valley didn't because when that River valley floods that your civilization is entirely contained and you're going to say the whole world flooded. It's like you people can't think

[@demah4063]

A lot of water and gods separating the heavens

[@jach99]

In the Romanian creation myth, we have an Earth Diver(called not-kinsnman or the Devil) who brings out mud from the depth of the primordial sea at the behest of another being(called the kinsman or God) when said being appears out of nothing. I knew it was very old and shared by many peoples, but it's really great to hear more about it! Unfortunately we were christianized very early on so all of our mythology is coated in thick a layer of Christianity, but I always found it curious how this very obviously pagan story survived even tho it has some Christian influence because of the interpretation of the two beings as God and the Devil.

[@ChrissieBear]

Heh. I mentioned a few variations of the Romanian Creation myth in the comment section of his Indo-European Creation Myth video a while back, and he replied to the comment saying he hadn't heard of that creation myth before. I'm sure we'll hear more of it in future videos in this series.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you for sharing this, I love hearing these stories and information.

[@afischer8327]

When you write that the Earth Diver is a 'not-kinsman', is it a member of another tribe, or perhaps even with a different language? And then maybe the 'kinsman' would have been an important tribal leader. It might be difficult to confirm or deny these guesses, because of the changes over time, and the inevitable influence of Christianity, as you wrote. I agree, it's a wonder that this story has survived!

[@ChrissieBear]

@@afischer8327 He's translating it awkwardly, the actual translation is "Not-Brother", because the other character (who is supposedly God), replies with "You are not my brother, you are my Not-Brother." when the Earth Diver (who is supposed to be Satan) excitedly calls the other character "Brother" upon first meeting him. These myths are known in Romania as "Brother and Not-Brother" stories, where Brother is God and Not-Brother is Satan.

[@Floral_Green]

Reminds me of a certain song sang by a Mr Ronnie James Dio.

[@enjarichards8100]

There is an interesting creation myth from the many and varied beliefs of the ancient Egyptians. The lotus plant grows from a seed at the bottom of the water, shooting up until it hits the surface, then growing leaves which fan out and rest over the water. Some imaginative scribe saw this as a way that land could be formed from the water, a cosmic lotus seed that anchored the floating land spread out above.

[@hermanhale9258]

There's one where a god comes out of the water and starts producing the world when he blows his nose.

[@user-pv4mn6dn6d]

Well their is the creation myth where Atum ejaculates, and the Ennead are created; Ptah Tatenen was the patron god of Memphis who created the Ennead from the waters of Chaos; Ra in one myth is the creator of the world. There is no unitary Egyptian creation myth, ever nome likely had their own variation of the creation story.

[@hermanhale9258]

@@user-pv4mn6dn6d They probably even said to their kids, "Some people believe that story, this is what we believe." Or, "This is what I believe."

[@kp-legacy-5477]

​@@user-pv4mn6dn6dedfu texts are pretty close to what I'd say was the accepted Egyptian idea.

[@ayyylien7066]

Whenever I watch videos like this I start to feel emotional in a very profound and almost indescribable way. Like I just feel a deep sense of connection to all of humanity, and an appreciation for our shared roots, and for the ancestors we all descend from, who made myth, and art, and whose lineage survived so we could be here today. A deep sense of oneness really, for all of humanity across all of space and time. Just beautiful.

[@NirtieDigger]

That's what's Christians call the holy spirit

[@francescafrancesca3554]

@@ayyylien7066 Same :) I feel so calm. It's wonderful.

[@garyfrancis6193]

I feel hungry.

[@Rando-user-zm1fx]

I'm hungry too. I think I'll have some pizza.

[@finrennard3402]

Ever tried regression therapy? I'm skeptical of anything I can't quantify or touch but have had some interesting experiences with regression therapy sessions.

[@IonAeon]

Peering in to the minds of our ancient ancestors like this is absolutely amazing experience. Ancient people believing them or not, these are some the first stories of fiction ever conceived, the echoes of which have stayed with us through millennia of technological progress and societal growth. Fiction may be an inferior genre for some, but these are the first stories, the first beautiful flashes of brilliance from human creativity.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you for watching, and for commenting such thoughts. It is appreciated.

[@thekween9037]

It's also interesting because these mythologies bear eerie similarities to the scientific discoveries we have since found. Humans evolved from a lineage that once lived in the oceans, as did all life. The void darkness, then light also suggests a similar situation to the big bang. It's fascinating.

[@ske-pho3049]

As you were describing more and more on the earth diver motif, there was a thought I couldn’t shake. That everything that is, came from the deep. That land, life, everything was tilled from it like a farmer tills the land. Everything was tilled from nothing. It made me think of why people would see it like this in early times. As they were surrounded by life, they saw that plants and “trees” came from the ground and as such people and other life did too. Then where did the land come from? From the deep. And where did the deep come from? From nothing. Or the void. Thus begs the question is who or what started tilling. What set it in motion? Gods, super beings, big bang, etc.

[@algernoncalydon3430]

The Noah story is a good example of later writers not understanding what went on in the earlier story. Ravens were often taken on sea journeys in order to find land. If they let the raven out of the cage the raven flew up and if it didn't see any land , and being smarter than most other birds, would return to the boat. But if it saw land it would fly that direction. The sailors could then see which direction the raven flew, therefore knowing where there was land. Noah released the raven but it only flew back and forth. People assume it was that the raven was bad and the dove found land and so doves are good. Assuming the raven failed and the dove succeeded. But the phrase is odd. The raven flew back and forth until the water receeded from the land. Like it's an incomplete story which has had a lot of info deleted. Later commentators just made up the additional parts of the story making it into black is bad, white is good type.

[@aariley2]

Ravens are beautiful and really sweet. They have a purple cast in their feathers that you can see on the sunlight.

[@gaiasguardian205]

The raven flew back and forth until the waters receeded from the land, and then he flew the coop to escape his confinement and food rationed by hand.

[@KebaRPG]

There are actually two versions of the Noah Bird Scout Myths... One painted ravens as villains for flying around for three days without proof of land... The Other the two pairs of Raven did not return; but since doves often return to home nest areas to make new nest stole from raven's nesting area.... Thus Noah followed where the doves were going to collecting twigs for nest.

[@leroybrown9143]

The raven didn't return because ravens are carrion eaters and it was feasting after months of being fed it's non-preferred diet on the Ark. Genesis was written by Moses, Moses was educated among Egyptian royalty, they knew far more about seafaring without modern technology than we do, after all both the Egyptians (and Israelites) traded all over the Red Sea, Arabian sea and Mediterranean region via ship, so its highly unlikely they would be unaware of how either ravens or doves behave when released from a vessel at sea as they were very close to the invention of such techniques and employed them routinely, which is why Noah released the raven in the first place, because of his knowledge of raven behavior. He subsequently released the dove knowing that it would have to return if it didn't find vegetation on dry land, because he was knowledgeable about dove dietary requirements as opposed to raven dietary requirements. Additionally, the white dove is not found in nature, it's an invention of ca. 1000 AD artificial selective breeding techniques from Greece. Noah's pigeons (doves) would not have been white and no one in Noah's day, 4500 BC, would have ever seen a white dove, as even today they are vanishingly rare in nature. Therefore, this superficial, fictional conctruct has zero explanatory power within the actual historic context to which it's being shoehorned, as a little knowledge clearly indicates. The black =evil , white= good analogy is an entirely fictitious construct that cannot be derived from the biblical text, only imposed upon it, that's why this is the first time I've ever heard of it, because it's logically, culturally, historically and biologically absurd.

[@KebaRPG]

Ravens Seek Shelter rand food beyond the ship' doves came back with nesting supplies

[@Sammenluola]

The Finnic creation myth is a combination of the Earth Diver Myth (EDM) and the World Egg Myth (WEM), with the World Tree also present. The EDM survived in a more complete form among eastern Finnish tribes, as well as among Karelians, not to mention some of our eastern relatives further away; people like the Komi, Nenets, Khanty etc. While the Kalevala is a historic book from the mid 19th century, the sacred runic poems it contains belong to a huge corpus of Finnic mythology, collected over the past four or five centuries. The original poems are sung in an octosyllabic meter.

[@hermanhale9258]

Like the poem "Hiawatha" that used to be taught to American school kids.

[@bardsamok9221]

Do you recommend a KZbin video as an example?

[@theeddorian]

In Central California your "Earth Diver" pattern is recounted by several societies. In that version, three creatures are floating on a raft in the middle of a huge flood. One is Coyote, the next is Mud Turtle, I don't recall the third but I think it was a bird. A shining being comes down to the raft from the sky on a feather(?) rope. After a discussion with the raft's occupants it transpires that all three are heartily sick of the narrow confines of the raft. The shining being then suggests that one of them dive down and bring up some material from the surface beneath the flood. Coyote can't dive well, the bird can't at all, so mud turtle dives down and it is a long difficult dive. By the time he reaches the raft again, he has lost the entire load he started to the surface with. But the shining one takes out a small stone knife and scrapes beneath the mud turtle's nails and collect enough mud to make a small ball of mud. This is cast by the shining one out into the water creating the first dryland. A primal oak tree myth also circulated.

[@hermanhale9258]

That's interesting that the California story has a girl coming down from the sky and the Finnish myth he told does, too.

[@theeddorian]

@@hermanhale9258 Not a girl, a "shining one," though the transcription by Kroeber(?) uses the pronoun "he" IIRC. Gender is an odd topic in folk lore. I've always thought it curious that the genders of the sun and moon swap north and south of the Alps in Europe.

[@hermanhale9258]

@@theeddorian Sorry, somehow I saw a picture in my head of a girl on a rope when I read that. Thanks for the correction.

[@wendychavez5348]

My first year in college, I took a course called: "Creative Writing: Mythology." For the final project, we each had to develop our own creation myth. Wow, I wish mine had been as well formed as the one you just told! I'm thrilled to have found this channel.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you.

[@alexandrahenderson4368]

I'd just use my grandmas tribal one cuz it's only oral

[@jamesofallthings3684]

@@wendychavez5348 Some commie told you to invent a religion, grats.

[@umwha]

I think the earth diver myth may be counted as the single most primitive form of the ‘journey to the underworld’ archetype. Someone goes into a subnautical realm, questing, and retrieves his prize or treasure, and brings it back to the Normal world. From which his treasure brings a revolution or regeneration in some way. It’s the heroes journey at its very simplest .

[@Crecganford]

Yes, exactly, which it is why we think it came from the “humans coming from the underground, usually via a tree” motif

[@beachchickensmedia]

well said!

[@geroldbendix1651]

That is a speculation... nicely presented. Hindu cosmology tells the story of a gigantic 🐗 boar who dives down into the galactic ocean, to recover earth holding her on his tusks. He than puts her back in the orbit and finished off the demon, who was causing the dilemma.

[@lindsayheyes925]

Theseus 'alf-inching Posiedon's ring from the bottom of the sea comes to mind. Posiedon has an odd place in Greek myth as a god of the sea and also earthquakes. This has been explained by the coincidence of volcanism with tsunamis, but maybe the connection is a vestige of an Earth Diver mytheme.

[@mo0nstonegirl]

My daughter is Maori, we're a Kiwi family. I didn't even know much about the New Zealander creation story, so thank you for mentioning it! I always love it when our little country gets included :)

[@worstplayer4521]

What's a kiwi family?

[@islandercirce2]

@@worstplayer4521 It's a colloquialism for a resident of New Zealand. It originates from the flightless bird called a kiwi which is a symbol of NZ.

[@Stalker950-l3x]

Your daugher is Maori and you´re not? How is this supposed to work acutally?

[@worstplayer4521]

@@Stalker950-l3x she could be adopted

[@mo0nstonegirl]

@@Stalker950-l3x her father is Maori :)

[@sandra.helianthus]

I also wonder how much influence other humans as Neanderthals had on our myths? How interesting that would be! Perhaps there are several original stories after all, coming from different human species... 🌻

[@kellysouter4381]

I'd love to know what the Neanderthal creations myths were.

[@fnamelname9077]

Highly Compelling Evidence had a video where he looked at the possibility that certain ancient stories came to mankind by way of the Denisovans. Through Siberia. I forget which video.

[@sandra.helianthus]

@@fnamelname9077 interesting, thank you. It would make sense to me

[@red2blackprofits]

Denisovians had 3 genes for Autism Their stories would have been more conceptual rather linear.

[@fnamelname9077]

@@red2blackprofits TBH that actually makes sense as an origin for some of the weird "geometric" stories of constellations and such. Maybe all ancient stories are people remember things that autists said.

[@majidbineshgar7156]

Your reference to "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" is interesting , I have always found Douglas Adams books fascinating, with latent underlying spiritual / philosophical revelations , he came up with the idea that dealing with current events/ phenomenae one should seek a holistic ( historic, rational, mythical, scientific ...) causality explanation . also all our universe with all living beings might be merely a giant super-computer designed by Gods / Archons/...mice ! to find the " ultimate answer ".

[@Crecganford]

I found his work inspiring and fascinating too, a sad loss to the craft.

[@KincadeCeltoSlav]

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[@HarantheBlue]

"Holy Diver, you've been down too long in the midnight sea" - Dio

[@TeenaSinger-pi3lg]

Oh what's becoming of me

[@walterjunovich6180]

@@HarantheBlue Ride the Tiger 🐅 , you can see his stripes but you know he's clean

[@PyroGothNerd]

@@walterjunovich6180 Oh don't you seeee what I meannnn

[@aerialpunk]

Gotta get away.... Get awayeeyeeahhh

[@lukewarmwater9185]

Got shiny diamonds like the eyes of a cat black and blue

[@redlaundrybeauty7082]

We "Cherokee" Keetoowah have the water Beatle creation story.....So thankful for all the work u put into this channel 💯

[@hermanhale9258]

Water Beetle makes me think of the Egyptian scarab beetle who seems to be carrying the sun.

[@crowolfe290]

I absolutely love this research and commend you for your rigorous work. As an anthropologist, I often wish I could peer into the minds of our ancestors. I believe I catch little glimpses within your stories created from your hard work. Thanks for sharing this.

[@JohnSmith-wo2fz]

He references volume 34 of Journal of Indo-European studies p 153-181, 2006. When he brings up a 'celtic world tree'. I've read the document years before watching this video but went back and re-read it as I didn't remember any mention of a world tree in it. And yes, there is no mention of a world tree in it, the document is about Indo-European dragon slayers. So he got that wrong. To my knowledge there is only one instance in Irish mythology that might be considered even a hint at a 'world tree', but he made no reference to that text. So look, it's all very nice and scholarly looking to put up references, but if they don't reference what you're talking about then you need to take anything they say with a pinch of salt.

[@vaska1999]

​@@JohnSmith-wo2fz Thank you.

[@eardwulf785]

This was an incredible episode, I love it when variations of the same creation myths are retold by different cultures half a world away from each other. That's what's amazing and that's why this episode was super interesting. Surely these ancient myths have been being told ever since humans started to try and make sense of the world and learned to communicate with each other. Definitely one of your best Jon. I love having little eureka moments when you connect the dots.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you so much for your kind words.

[@jgr7487]

it may not only be pragnancy envy, but excrement also does look like mud & undigested seeds do grow into sprigs out of it. if not for seed dispersal, just the fact that fungi & plants grow in areas with manure can be seen as the relining of creation

[@loled123]

You don't need to go far down into a desert to observe plants and life clinging to valuable excrements. Merely going up in elevation to Alpine tundra or alpine areas is enough. And: Once you get into farming, before nitrogen fertilizer your only real option is refining manure. We now live in a society where we don't understand what nutrition is, and as such we have no idea on the value of fecal matter. Land being black dirt would be a sign of fertile soil, which is undersold when telling such a myth.

[@jgr7487]

@@loled123 savannas & such are dry enough for this to be observable

[@yggdrasild755]

@@loled123 shit = life

[@loled123]

@@jgr7487 savannas are dry. The alpine environment is barren of life outside of grass, being harsher.

[@eardwulf785]

What I saw when we had a contract at Blackburn Meadows Water Treatment Plant would be a good example of what you mentioned. In all the sewerage sludge which gets everywhere were growing great forests of tomato plants, you'd have to see it to believe it.

[@owaissaaltheadickey9341]

I am a Wabanaki Native (Penobscot,Passamaquoddy and Central Maine MicMac)as well as Irish,Scottish,Welch/English.I was brought up to love and embrace my Native heritage as well as my European ancestors contributes to the American culture.I have also learned the Creation stories from my Maliseet,Monhegan and Pequoit Native friends too. I love all Creation Stories;esp the ones where huge Ocean dwelling creatures... Whales,Sea Turtles,etc. carries soil on their backs and thus creates life sustaining "Earth"/World Tree,and all other forms of life(including the first humans). I also love Grandmother Spider and Glooskup/Glooskubi,Manabozo,Kokopelli and many other First Nations( From All the Americas and Canada with great respect) Legendary Folks. My Grandma used to tell me these stories and many others when I was a small child. I shared her stories with my youngest brother so they would remain alive through me. RIP and thanks for the memories Grammy. May all Folklore,Creation Stories, Legends Worldwide continue to exist and shine on for endless Millennia to Come. All of Them are Beautiful and Still Needed. Love to All from a friend in Maine,USA.

[@karenlankford8558]

I always learn a lot form you. I am fascinated by the way that people tried to make sense of their world before they had any scientific understanding of the nature of the sun and moon and stars and weather.

[@peytonwensaut6876]

Earth-diver myths and the existence of only a primordial sea before the world is a basis of a lot of indigenous creation stories as well. Love your content!

[@OldOneTooth]

Maui's hook likely connects to scorpios, the time to travel to NZ from the cook islands is when this is smeared with blood, ie at dawn or dusk, which as the hook is descending is dawn mid winter. This happens to be the best time to travel by the sailors almanac due to wind, following where the hook descends gives you a direct bearing to the coast of the fish known as the hook of Maui. There's also a reference to the star associated with Maui hiding below the canoe (there are 2 such, both associated with solstice.) The hook also slows the sun rising above it at dawn mid summer, while it's counter part pelaides rises mid winter. A possible reason for north south split in stories incidentally.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you for your comment, I do lover reading other's views and thoughts.

[@noblesavage4895]

It is connected to Scorpius. Te Murua o Maui-The Fish Hook of Maui.

[@Drbob369]

Good work, very informative and without the standard KZbin narcissism of most content makers.

[@zipperpillow]

Well observed.

[@Floral_Green]

His logistikón is well nurtured, that’s for sure.

[@VchaosTheoryV]

I had a vision on mushrooms that was similar. It was a hand of a Jotun, or Titan that sprung from the waters and pushed its finger across the beach sand. As the wet sand continued to become pushed along, the more form the being took as it eventually walked off. Time drew on in the trip, and the fully formed "human being" walked back to the beach where the finger of the Titan folded the "human" like clay back into the watery depths.

[@nascenticity]

thank you for explaining some of the methodologies that are used to reconstruct the history of these stories! i’ve often wondered how scientific these reconstructions actually are. it seems totally reasonable that we can use what we know about population movements to trace the points where stories might have diverged. it’s so fascinating how many of these elements are spread so far across the world, and that if we could actually hear the creation stories of our earliest ancestors that they might actually sound pretty familiar.

[@MidnightsEdge]

Recently discovered your channel. Love it. Already one of my absolute favorites.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you for you kind words.

[@PerksJ]

I keep getting more and more Survive the Jive vibes from this channel. I’d love to see a strong anti-folkish statement from you. I genuinely want to study PIE and IE languages and I’d like to feel confident promoting your content in Discords discussing such topics. Everyone is cropping up white supremacist in these circles.

[@vtheawesome]

@@PerksJ he made a statement on Reddit about this, but it might be best if he made a video about this

[@50hzAva]

A mate put me on to your channel recently, excellent stuff, thank you. Nice to see propper academic coverage of these topics, something youtube sorely lacks.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you for watching, I hope you enjoyed this latest video.

[@Nuclearw4rhead]

in Mordovian mythology (part of Finno-Ugric mythology) there is a myth about a god, whose name is Mastor, who turns into a duck and raises the earth from under the water. Also, in this myth there is a Birch that separates the Skye's from earth and the underworld

[@jamesmckenzie4572]

It occurred to me several times in this discussion that the myths reflect ancient peoples' growing understanding of plants; perhaps the earliest comprehension of how seeds grow into plants, and using that to provide a clue to our own creation. But then, I'm vegetarian so my thinking often revolves around such notions. Thanks.

[@aariley2]

I don't know why more people aren't watching these. They are absolutely brilliant and non-preachy.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you

[@sarahkragness7138]

they think their bible tells them everything they need to know, which is why they are abymally ignorant

[@ergomate9092]

I adore these videos. Many of the stories are familiar, or elements of them can be recognised from how they've been passed down and evolved over time. But as much as hearing something close to the original versions is profound, the story of how we come to develop, interpret and understand these tales is even more interesting.

[@rockyhill3]

The amount of research and groundwork to be able to collect all of these stories to later analyze and abstract is just mind boggling to me. This is just more evidence that we are all truly related. Thank you fro sharing!

[@ZsiZsiSzabad]

I only found this channel in the last month or two and I’m so glad I did! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us in such an entertaining and accessible way. Cheers 🍻

[@Crecganford]

And thank you for watching, and for taking the time to comment.

[@qeithwreid7745]

I like your thoroughness, gentleness and the inherent interest of the subject.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you so much for your support and your kind words, they are very much appreicated.

[@nono9543]

It's like a KZbin channel made out of all the questions I asked as a child. I love it.

[@hexmark21]

Interesting, this is really the first time I've ever heard or realized the scatological view on creation myths. Really fascinating stuff

[@bennyvangelder7624]

Thank you Jon for making a video about the Earh Diver! 🙏 That the beginning starts with water after the void makes sence because water is also formless like chaos. (In fysics the theories of fluids (cf. Water) their behavior is used to explain some models in quantum mechanics (cf. Chaos, the void))The primordial waters seem to be a transition between chaos and water itself. To imagine the waters without end is ofcourse the ocean. And I gues that is why water appears before land and the only place to look for land on an infinite sea is at the bodem ...

[@Dell2YT]

Just got through the ending. That was a wonderful exploration of creation myths. I feel incredulous yet enlightened, now knowing the idea that mankind have been (and always will be) creating and sharing gross-out stories for eachother since the dawn of time. Nothing has changed. [No spoilers for others in replies please]

[@chriskleinlein3408]

I appreciate your fine work. I am also enjoying David Reich lately, I studied some linguistics in college, and spend a great deal of time on genealogy, in a micro and macro sense. I appreciate your ability to flesh-out and articulate the ramifications of our current understanding of history, genetics, and linguistics in tangible terms.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you for watching, and I have read much of Reich's work too. It's very useful in understanding human migration and dispersal.

[@dragonfox2.058]

I'm VERY interested in the male womb envy thing. It seems many myths are pretty intuitive almost magically so. It also explains a lot of what the cave paintings were about, making sure the animals returned for the hunt...and the colleges of artists who painted the masterpieces underground

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

In Vedic religion they literally have temples of Womb with sculptures of primordial foetus. As well as sculptures of delivering babies in standing position. The dualist concept of light changing darkness into day must have compete with another myth explaining baby being created in two variations from dual source, and maybe one perfect god of all sexes. This premyth somehow seems off without thunders lightning's and supernatural events hahaha Modern humans are much more into fairytales than our ancestors. Even Vikings were much more grounded than we try to think reading their myths (usually not getting how they simply understood them). Their metaphysics were materialistic. Bird moves, tree moves, water moves ergo all are equal, intelligent and human-like. Since our native myths say stork brings children or are found in cabbage I think that one of humans spawning from world tree is fully believable despite logical me looks for something deeper of reason... Haha

[@3rdeye671]

Animals painted deep inside the Earth Mothers womb. Hoping for their abundance to be born into the outside world.

[@dragonfox2.058]

@@3rdeye671 yup. It's so beautiful

[@jennifermurphy2226]

@@3rdeye671 ugh that’s amazing!!

[@bethbartlett5692]

Interesting, considering Freud introduced the Female "Penis Envy Theory", and during the era of the Early - pre 1940's 20th Century, *"a time notable for 9bservaboe actions reflecting Lower Mind and Material Focused value of worthiness, all influence by and from Rome and the Roman Emperor Constatine established Ideology, heavy in Male Dominance, lack of value in the feminine, and Fear based Dogma. Present time offering a growing draw up and into Higher Mind, Spiritual Discoveries (Quantum Physics studies), and emerging greater Facts of History. Realized in the Nonphysical very much the greater part of the Physical experience. *Comprehending the Soul energy, and knowing the secure reality of our eternal self, our infused in a Human vessel, and the value of the "Universal Laws" particularly the "Universal Law of Attraction".* These value all giving a flow towards Centered in Harmony.

[@dndsl3436]

Your comments about the world-tree holding up the sky make me think of the Maori legend of Rangi and Papa, two primordial parents (the Earth and the Sky) locked in an embrace. One of their children, Tane, god of the trees and birds, eventually separates them by laying on his back and pushing up with his feet.

[@miyaiun4723]

There is a sacred place în America which they call Devils tower. Many believe its an ancient tree. If you see it, its covered by solid stuff, rock or something like that. But its the only one on the planet. And all around the world we have the tree of life motif. What if it really was an enourmous tree of life from milions of years ago?

[@julianaguilera998]

I enjoy recreation videos of the oldest Mythology's but there are times that I get a little sad that alot of those myths are unfortunately lost to the sands of time but these kind of recreation videos are the closest thing we have and the best attempt to put the pieces together.

[@michaelbailey1684]

I hope this is not our best attempt!

[@jackvanderburgh6599]

Your videos have a lot of style bro! The mix of accepted "Science", with very, Very, VERY good guessing, leads to these extremely logical conclusions, Finally!! Searching for answers using total Common Sense ...Brilliant! Why hasn't this been done before?? Amazing.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you so much for your kind words, it is very much appreciated.

[@terrillsilke227]

I love your perspective and appreciate your knowledge. I have loved mythology since I was a child, these were my storybooks and the skies were my guides. You are speaking my language. Thank you for your gift to me

[@Crecganford]

It’s always appreciated when people like what I do. Thank you.

[@aariley2]

One of my favorite creation myths is from a Native American tribe. I can't recall the tribe, but once the earth was created, stings of mud came down from heaven and all the people and animals shimmied down these mud strings. Then the world and earth were separated by cutting the mud strings.

[@zipperpillow]

Marvelous. I never could understand the "floating land" idea, because even little children would find that contrary to experience, but it shows up everywhere. You'd think that one kid, somewhere, would call that storyteller out.

[@chrissiek8706]

Hm, floating land is quite logical for people, living in islands or near the sea

[@zipperpillow]

@@chrissiek8706 I've lived on many islands, and they were all connected to the bottom of the ocean. I've lived on several coasts, and it's the same thing. I think you're thinking about a boat, or a raft.

[@chrissiek8706]

@@zipperpillow you know they're connected, but you think people thousands years ago had such geological knowledge?

[@zipperpillow]

@@chrissiek8706 I think they had feet, like me. I think they could tell if they were moving, drifting, bobbing, twirling, rising up and down, or headed towards somewhere else, farther away from where they used to be. Many islands are volcanoes. Is the volcano the entire beast? or just the head of the beast? or just the tip of its jaws?

[@donnalambs9578]

Oh your definitely floating on this stuff

[@0x41f13]

Thank you for this content. It’s interesting to hear about the Bible’s creation myth with the myths that came before as context for its origin. This kind of thinking has opened my mind to the importance of all myths and the purposes they serve.

[@kp-legacy-5477]

Not enough focus on the idea they might be allegory for real science and history

[@farahgiovanna]

❤ I just found you, giving a reference from david lightbringer, another KZbinr, who watches you and loves your content, I teach world mythology to freshman college students, and I am fascinated by your work! Thank you so much❤

[@Kidgangforever]

Thank you. Your voice is soothing and so nice to listen to. I have listened to the story at the end of the video over and over again. It is a very peaceful creation myth. So very nice:

[@Crecganford]

Thank you for your kind words.

[@colterwebb6382]

talking about breaking wind and divine wind being used for creation is super interesting. especially with the clay reference. cause did not god breathe life into adam? not dissimilar to the downward breathe in the vedic tradition you mentioned. this channel is great

[@arthurkoopmanswatercolors]

The idea that many of the oldest motifs emerged somewhere before or around 75k years ago may suggest that the Toba Super Eruption played some role in the formation of creation myths. This super eruption was likely caused by a rogue planet disturbing comets which then disturbed the earth, according to astrophysicists. The excrement part may be linked to more than psychological matters alone. It reminds me of Odin taking the Mead of Poetry in the form of a giant eagle. He is chased by a giant eagle which crashes into a bonfire. That sounds like a late echo of the earth diver myth, symbolizing a cosmic impact. Odin excretes the mead from its mouth, but also from its behind, again the excrement idea, which then creates bad poetry. I have reasons to believe these are "comet birds". One crashing into the earth and causing an inferno, the other excreting some kind of substance. Comets are known to excrete all sorts of chemicals, gases, dust, and even ethanol alcohol and other liquids, also known as blood rain, golden rain etc!

[@Ivan-ny5xp]

Dear sir, your channel is one of the most valuable and enjoyable discoveries on youtube this year. My sincere gratitude for your work.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you for you kind words, they are appreciated.

[@sofiatgarcia3970]

I love how you give us the possibilities without any dogmatic claims on how religious beliefs may have been formulated.

[@robpatterson3133]

Loving this channel.. I'm baffled that your not spread out more of KZbin.. took two or more years of deep diving in the origins and more of human kind and I just found these ... It's criminal

[@Crecganford]

Only a few months ago I had 5,000 subscribers, so I'm starting to grow :) Thank you for watching, and I hope you enjoyed what you've found.

[@OldieBugger]

I heard this story: A waterfowl (I forget which) laid an egg, which broke. The white became seas, the yolk became land. That's how our world came to be.

[@MatthewCaunsfield]

Creation myths are such a fascinating aspect of human history, great vid!

[@Crecganford]

Thank you

[@douglaskingsman2565]

Noah's celebration of the dove finding a twig was enormously (if darkly) funny. Thanks!

[@GranteeBoy]

Wow! Before i started watching,i was drawn knowing my people had a similar story, not knowing you were actually starting with the creation story of my people, the Maori of Aotearoa ki Moananui-a-Kiwa. KIA ORA EHOA, I knew you were cultured but that blew my mind 🙏

[@austinrhoads]

The mystery of how existence came from nothing points to an inherent subjectivity in human consciousness. It's something enigmatic in both our scientific and religious perspectives. Nothingness can't exist by definition, which is even harder to groc. Super stoked to have found this channel.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you.

[@liquidconstellations]

Another great video 👍 The twenty-something philosophy major in me would be in the back of the ancient bonfire storytelling sesh ruining the mood with “but how can something come from nothing?” 😂 But anyway, I wanted to say I’m grateful to see academics on KZbin create scholarly content. It’s my favorite use of the platform. I enjoy creators like you and Justin Sledge over at Esoterica. It’s a way to keep some academic studies alive and circulating at a time when education costs are astronomical and kids just want degrees that make them a lot of money. Guys like you keep interest alive and information in circulation. I wonder how many comparative mythology and linguistics studies majors you’ve inspired? I hope to find more of you on KZbin and Patreon. Keep up the good work!

[@jacobrodriguezvelez]

This is fascinating information and a very enlightening video. I've always been personally interested in what the core ideas and mythos of our earliest ancestors would have been and this is a spectacular introduction to that. I have also personally noticed these trends myself, for example with many Indigenous American stories (a personal point of interest for me) the motif of the Earth-diver is very prevalent and features in many of the legends. Great work on this video and I can't wait to see more!

[@Thunderfork]

This is probably the most fascinating channel I have found in the past years, I really love your content.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you for your kind words, they are very much appreciated.

[@cecelialane8738]

I love hitchhikers'guide to the Galaxy quotes!!

[@Faelani38]

I can see how they think we create something from nothing. It is nothing to be envious about. It is draining and hurts very badly. I enjoyed your explanation and had some giggles. Very enlightening. I have never really thought about it.

[@battelchicken2]

I've been working on a table top campaign that uses a lot of creation myth motifs. It begins with the characters being created by the players deep under an ocean before they are spit up on a beach to discover the mysteries of the Lands. I had no idea my beginning was literally a The beginning! That's so rad! Thank you for your videos!! They're so inspiring!

[@battelchicken2]

P.S I'll have to add that someone takes a shit in the lore I guess now...

[@Crecganford]

Always good to have a such a character in any story.

[@douglaskingsman2565]

Really bold synthesis. Really well researched, however. Really, really impressive. Thanks!

[@nasty.habits]

You had me hooked in the beginning. Dig that you briefly touched on research methods, and really seem to be grasping at something, yet it became clear that what youre after is not yet a fully formed idea, as it unraveled; i was ultimately let down in your end summary. While brief, conflicts occur ex: light not yet into being, yet sees mud under nails. Creation mythology and the ideas of our earliest ancestors are huge fascinatios of mine. Even though for me this video fell flat, i do appreciate your efforts and ideas and look forward to future insights you may have as your knowledge and curiosity evolves. ✌

[@Crecganford]

Thank you for watching and the feedback, I really appreciate it, and I hope with time my videos will continue to improve.

[@TheLastAxeman]

Idea of the oldest myth being a glorified poop joke would be the most human thing ever actually, counting the fact we still find such stuff funny. I support that xd

[@yggdrasild755]

shit happens

[@gaiasguardian205]

I felt like this was a prime example of a primitive mind trying to comprehend that life and planets exist in a star cloud created by the back end of a wormhole.

[@aplaceinthestars3207]

"Life-giving fart" is possibly the greatest concept I've heard in a while.

[@DamienZshadow]

I really wonder if they took it way more seriously than we did or if we're taking it more seriously than they did!

[@suzz1776]

Lol

[@raserapps8230]

Really got into this area of interest lately. A family member had an ancestry search done on our family surname, and in short it revealed that our name goes back to 7th century norse with the first recorded person using the surname around that time, but even more interesting was the deeper origin and translation of the name which simply put translated to Wodens Feld. So Woden is a very old variation of the name Odin, Wodens Feld translated to Dwellers of Odins Country. I also read that the day Wednesday was once called Wodensday or Odins Day! So since reading a bit into this I've found an urge to learn more about history, but specifically the mythology side of the tales and legends and their deeper meanings! I found this very interesting thank you! Earned my like and sub 🙂

[@Crecganford]

Thank you, and I do have some older videos that explain some of the origins of Odin, as he is a very complex character.

[@johnym1]

This is incredible. Interesting how these stories have changed over time. I love to hear and learn more.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you for your kind words, and I have a number of videos like this on my channel, and will continue to make many more. Perhaps look for the Dragon Myth video next.

[@sukiyakime]

it is very interesting to see that humans guessed earths history pretty accurately. earth had oceans and atmosphere to begin with, life formed in the ocean and then the lands formed. maybe they observed the land, animals, fossils and concluded that life began in the ocean.

[@theotheraccount2734]

I thought the universal knowledge was a spirit guided thing they still had input from some who knew the correct knowledge... Who gave them the correct knowledge 🥇 .... Well most only get to know about the Earth's energy the earth works in the numbers 3,6,9.... The bible mentions the 666 God as Lucifer an fallen angels were 33 Percent of the angels an their energy went to Lucifer or Satan.. To kill us an wrong is... They wanted to make an marry but also to aid Lucifer and fight us and be demons and disembodied spirits.... Against us .. superior to us to confuse us all and teach us wrong. God's way and powers are 777 and beyond he only gives those to people who live like him not earth god and repent.... So everyone not in him only can say they know earth God and power.

[@Robert-gc9gc]

I love this series, can’t wait to see all the creation myths discussed. Love that you mentioned the Finnish Kalevala, hard to find information about it.

[@bodnica]

I just bought Kalevala last week. I am looking forward to reading it.

[@ichigoapanchal9935]

you forgot the famous earth diver and and the 3rd avater of Vishnu, Vahara where he lifted earth from ocean, turtle one is reused in samudra manthan, another they called it Pangu myth or something :3 keep up the great work love your videos .

[@Crecganford]

Yes, the Pangu myth is influenced from the Veda, or that is the academic consensus.

[@ichigoapanchal9935]

@@Crecganford so this means Chinese folklore might be part of indo-Europeans family as well, for some reason i though it was related to tengrism. damn i need to read vadas again lol

[@laoluffu6906]

I am in the early stages of building a fantasy world. It will have many stories slowly exploring the development of the world through individual perspectives. This is an excellent model for seeing how early humans perceived the world and how I can write the evolution of myths as humans travel to different lands. This video has been inspirational.

[@Crecganford]

I'm glad I could help, I have many authors and world builders follow my work.

[@m0str33t]

I like the Lich’s creation myth. “Before there was time, before there was anything, there was nothing. And before there was nothing, there were monsters….”

[@kimwarburton8490]

This is amazing! i would never have thought we would be able to piece together and re-create such ancient myths!

[@hermanhale9258]

They are just guessing. These stories are found all over the place. That is what we know.

[@TheMercian13]

Grab a cuppa tea lads, it’ll be the perfect temperature when it gets to the really good bits.

[@Crecganford]

Top tip!

[@Soarcio]

Brilliant video mate I really like how you tide in multiple mythologies of multiple cultures and tie them together to tell an expected earlier mythology. Great job! By the way have you done a video about the Norse creation myth? That'd be great to see, or you've already made it.

[@Crecganford]

I have touched on the Old Norse mythology in my Comparative Mythology video, as the Old Norse myth parallels the Indo European Creation Myth. I hope you watch that as it really is a fascinating insight on the modern day religions all coming from one source.

[@Soarcio]

@@Crecganford Thanks I'll check it out now

[@cosmicsisterstarot]

Gobekli Tepe fascinates me. The oldest temples some 12,000 years old. This place changes everything we thought.

[@lolurnotkelly]

This is excellent material, I didn't realize how long I'd been looking for a channel like yours!!!

[@Crecganford]

Thank you!

[@bradbyers7505]

So well presented! Thank you for all your hard work in preparation. I'm a fan!

[@Crecganford]

And thank you for watching and your kind words.

[@埊]

im a wind then [no]

[@BTV.88]

So glad I just found this channel today. Love the work you’re doing here and excited to hear more! 🍻

[@Crecganford]

Thank you for your kind words, and for watching the videos.

[@buukute]

In Chinese mythology, we been told a story of a giant names Pangu. He was a giant, is said to have come forth from chaos (an egg) with two horns, two tusks, and a hairy body. Some accounts credit him with the separation of heaven and earth, setting the sun, moon, stars, and planets in place, and dividing the four seas. He shaped the earth by chiselling out valleys and stacking up mountains. All this was accomplished from Pan Gu’s knowledge of yinyang, the inescapable principle of of duality in all things. Another legend asserts that the universe derived from Pan Gu’s gigantic corpse. His eyes became the sun and moon, his blood formed rivers, his hair grew into trees and plants, his sweat turned to rivers, and his body became soil. The human race, moreover, evolved from parasites that infested Pan Gu’s body. He's a father of Nüwa and Fuxi. In Chinese tomb murals and iconography, Fuxi and Nüwa generally have snake-like bodies and human face or head. Nüwa is often depicted holding a compass or multiple compasses, which were a traditional Chinese symbol of a dome-like sky. She decided to create humans to have some other beings to talk to and share ideas with, but mostly just to love. Nuwa went down to the edge of the Yellow River where there were vast, soft mud banks to find clays in order to create humans. In the Huainanzi, there is described a great battle between deities that broke the pillars supporting Heaven and caused great devastation. There was great flooding, and Heaven had collapsed. Nüwa was the one who patched the holes in Heaven with five colored stones. Nuwa and her sister sacrificed themselves to patched the holes in Heaven with five colored stones, and she used the legs of a tortoise to mend the pillars.

[@arturzathas499]

A beautiful, fantastic story at the end. Your "magician hands" made it even more captivating.

[@Crecganford]

Thank you, and yes, I do wave them about a bit don't I?

[@samantha_lawrence5100]

Incredibly informative, a coherent and straight forward explanation. Thanks for posting!

[@ricksmith9177]

Maori here,thank you for exploring our mythology

[@brucebruno842]

It's interesting that the "earth diver" myth comes out of myths where people come from the "underground" out of water through a hole. All people come from water out of a hole, birth. A baby comes down, but if you are standing on the Earth people would come up. You also have the story of the stork (a wading/water bird) who brings babies to their mothers, presumably from the water (amniotic sack); which is dark and saline/salt water. It would make sense that the myth is one of or the oldest myth. The tree can also be a phallic symbol and the hole/underground a vaginal/womb symbol. Both lead to creation.

[@AmandaHugandKiss411]

Lovely said..

[@79gengen]

@@brucebruno842 the ultimate basis of all metaphor...makes beautiful sense!

[@79gengen]

Also, the mud or excrement could be the placenta.

[@woodlandmac]

I wonder how much of a role genetic memory, and the fact that early humans were more instinctual, played into creation myths

[@txtardis7887]

All info is good info - Have not heard of the EDM before - Thank you for enlightening me 🙏

[@holycopy]

I am so in love with your voice! Now I wish that you'd narate all my favorite audiobooks haha subbed!

[@pendragon2012]

Very interesting video. So the Iroquois creation myth is an offshoot of a very old story, using muskrat as the earth diver? What do you think about the variations in myths being due to variations in geography? I know for me when I hear Japanese myths talk about stabilizing the earth, I think about the long history of seismic activity Japan has and how their myths must have tried to make sense of this. Enjoying the material--keep up the good work!

[@Crecganford]

Thank you

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

Do you know where Japanese come from and who lived there before them?

[@crispinmcsticks]

@@szymonbaranowski8184 Ainu?

[@埊]

@@szymonbaranowski8184 trees and grass?

[@pendragon2012]

@@szymonbaranowski8184 I don't have my notes on hand. I know modern Japanese came from the mainland of Asia and there are still some descendants of original inhabitants on one of the islands.

[@WhiteErFox]

Sometimes it feels like our ancestors knew more about the creation of the earth much longer before we did. (e.g. Middle Ages) I call it genetic memory, in the form of myths. (did they also believe the Earth was flat to then?) It's a fun trip, and I'm excited to where this will lead. :D I wish there was a myth that explains how water came to be. (since water was already there when the first humans existed. I don't think there are any?) The wind part was kinda funny, but made a lot of logical sense. I mean, it's so simple yet logic. Also seeing a cave man grabbing a piece of earth/dust/sand, and throwing it on a pool of water and watching how it floats going "oe oe oe... oe?"... The floating and growing land myth was born! Exgaterating, but you get my point I hope. ;) (also, probably shooing it's interested female partner away... lol) At least they got the nothingness part right. :) How smart is that? Again, must have been the simplest idea, but the concept of "nothing"... first signs of intelligence? Thanks for the upload! Always interesting to see a new video from you!

[@Crecganford]

Thank you for your kind words and for watching. It is appreciated.

[@hrodotos8623]

The resemblance between creation myths starting with a universe with no light and the big bang theory that says there was no light at the start of the universe always make me think what are the odds of someone making up a story with 0 scientific observational data but somehow guess the actual, or something close, way things happened.

[@deborahdean8867]

Well when you're trying to explain the beginning of something , you have to start from the assumption that at one point it didnt exist to explain its beginning. So there's always at first nothing, or something close to an unformed mass.

[@Jensildur]

The (psychological) conclusion is brilliant. And the more I think about, more and more probable!