The ORIGIN of Rome has a SECRET
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The Drink that Broke Religion
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@solifugus
@solifugus Сағат бұрын
I think there have likely always been those who saw mythologies as literal and others who saw them as symbolic. Wisemen of ancient times taught in sayings and riddles. The purpose of this, as I understand it, is that simply stating facts teaching little to nothing. Knowledge is fleeting but understanding is enduring. To unravel a riddle is to understand it and have it integrated into other understandings you have and to accept it because you discovered it yourself. This is powerful. Knowledge is useful, only in passing, to gain understanding. The utility of those who saw such things as literal and the allure of the stories helped keep them alive over the generations for those who recognize their symbolism and thereby come to gain understanding from them. So riddles are typical analogies of some sort. An analogies tend to break down when taken too far but one that does not is, rather, a conceptualization. Conceptualizations are the matter of understanding. So you can look at these myths and motifs in their literalist interpretations over thousands over years to trace the evolution of their literalist forms but I believe there is the evolution of a symbolic base that underlies them. This is the growth of an understanding from pondering the universe as we experience and conceptualize it. To me, the lineage of this would be even more interesting.
@sarubet8725
@sarubet8725 4 сағат бұрын
Yeah the very aryan religion of judea
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 3 сағат бұрын
What? I'm talking specifcially about the creation myth, one of the four that exist in the bible, as having influence from outside the Near East. Why talk about a specific region within the Indo-European landscape, that is just ignorance showing a lack of understanding of what region Aryan represents, and what the video is about.
@joelturner5957
@joelturner5957 5 сағат бұрын
new zealand nothingness reminds me of norse nothjngness ganungagap
@pappapata
@pappapata 7 сағат бұрын
👌🙏❣
@lindsayheyes925
@lindsayheyes925 7 сағат бұрын
I'm interested that Pope Gregory was an initiator of witch-hunts, when it was he that encouraged syncretism - when there was a sacrifice, replace it with a feast; when a festival, set up stalls around the churches. I've researched capital punishment, and it's clear that there was no regret over it until the late English Enlightenment. The condemned were granted Christian confession and absolution, so they'd go to Heaven (after a while in Purgatory if Catholic); If an innocent was killed, they skipped Purgatory and went straight to Heaven. If they didn't confess and were guilty, they'd go to hell - which they deserved for not confessing (or for making a false confession, because that would be sacrilege which had been a crime since at least 500 BC). If they didn't confess but were innocent, they'd go to Limbo to await the Day of Judgement, when they'd be redeemed and join God in Heaven, just like those rescued by Jesus during The Harrowing of Hell. So, as the Blessed Julian of Norwich wrote, "All shall be well and all shall be well and all manner of thing shall be well", and the Pope doesn't need to apologise. Q.E.D.
@lindsayheyes925
@lindsayheyes925 8 сағат бұрын
A number of rivers near me have name that my refer to the dragon myth: The River Worm is obvious, and it drains into the Wye (Welsh 'Gwy') which is supposed to mean 'winding'. Another tributary of the Wye is the Trothy, thought to be from 'truiau', also meaning 'winding'. Even if etymologies turn out to be false, they have cultural validity if they were believed - just as dragons are false, but were culturally valid.
@jhenson5168
@jhenson5168 8 сағат бұрын
It would be awesome if you could crack the code to the most enigmatic figure of them all. The origin of Pallas Athena
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 3 сағат бұрын
She is a local goddess, and so the answer probably lays around the pre-history of Athens.
@jhenson5168
@jhenson5168 3 сағат бұрын
@ on the surface yes, I’m not a classicist, but I’ve seen many Hellenistic deity’s that span back much further than their recorded history. From what I have seen on KZbin, is it fair to say her origin is closer to Anatolian myth? A daughter figure of the Anatolian Mother Goddess, a Neolithic deity that was only discovered in writing during the 6th century BC. You see this with Hekate and Medea as well. I’m just curious, your Orpheus origins connection was fascinating. Wasn’t sure if there was anything similar with the “virgin warrior” image
@JamesWilliams-dz5tn
@JamesWilliams-dz5tn 14 сағат бұрын
Could moses’ story possibly be derived from earlier myths od odin? A great chieftain who led his people to the north and west?
@superhappyfunsmile
@superhappyfunsmile 16 сағат бұрын
I've been waiting for some good and new Gobekli Tepe videos. Thanks so much 🙏 💓 😊
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 3 сағат бұрын
I hope you found it interesting.
@ebonyblack4563
@ebonyblack4563 16 сағат бұрын
Considering how many layers of destruction and rebuilding were found at the Troy site I'm surprised it's not spoken of in more myths.
@kendallmills7206
@kendallmills7206 17 сағат бұрын
Are we talking about our oldest myths, or the oldest myths that still exist today? I think those would be two different things.
@Carz6
@Carz6 19 сағат бұрын
Some of the animals, in particular the fox and the snake, could be a symbol of lineage or other type of social group. Most of the remaining animals could be food animals- the critters that were hunted and eaten.
@OttoSturhahn
@OttoSturhahn 22 сағат бұрын
The Sky Woman is Diana. All the nations of the World considered the under World as a Sea. When the Sky Woman fell on a Turtle, we have to remember that a Turtle is an Amphibian. The sky woman is Female, because it is a very weak force. This meaning, that we come at Birth, like an Amphibian, out of the Sea, back on Dry Land. Or, all the Souls have to go through the Sign of Cancer. Cancer is also an Amphibian. The sign of the Constellation of Pieces, is the Sea from wich we come. In Egypt is is the Scarab Beatle, who plants his seed in a ball of Manure. So does the Grasshopper plants his seed in the Earth. The same is it with a Sea Bird who lays an Egg, from which Apollo and Diana emerged. Diana the under World and Apollo the upper world. Or Pelops in Greece the first man on Earth. Earth and Water everywhere in the World is Female and Air and Fire is everywhere male. The Other Side is like a parallel Universe that we cannot see. And darkness was over the Face of the Deep. This was the Reason why the Ancient invented the Zodiac. The Zodiac explains hoe we move from this World into the other World. I think that they were not Lying, because they would not have painted their Lies all over the Nigh Time Sky.
@theodorekaczynski8147
@theodorekaczynski8147 23 сағат бұрын
Steppe is cooler so I’m believing that
@aarong8457
@aarong8457 Күн бұрын
I remember watching a documentary on the history of dogs, and it mentioned that we have 5000 years of history on the domestication of dogs. They did a DNA study to track that history and see whether or not they were domesticated from grey wolves. It turns out that the DNA matched with the history, but they said they had to adjust the timetable to account for genetic mutations based on current theory and they came to the same 100,000 years that scientist say it's the age of the human race. Based on that, maybe dogs have been domesticated since 100000 years ago or based on known history. Or maybe the 100000 years is a miscalculation, and the human race is not that old.
@vedranlekic9725
@vedranlekic9725 Күн бұрын
Imbecilic take. You cannot derive from the evolution of religion the claim that God or a "true" religion is man made. This has been debunked numerous times. It would be akin to claiming that atoms are man made because there is an evolution of science. Things, beings or Being either exist in themselves or they dont. Your mental states have very little bearing on that. Delete video. Be intellectually honest.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford 19 сағат бұрын
Absolute and complete drivel.
@vedranlekic9725
@vedranlekic9725 10 сағат бұрын
I know it is so take it off then. The fact that you have to resort to a handwaving fallacy just further cements your incompetence and in full view at that. If you are mentally disabled. which is a real possibility let me know and I will explain to you slowly so that even a person like you might understand.
@vedranlekic9725
@vedranlekic9725 8 сағат бұрын
@@Crecganford I know it is. That is why you should take it down. Also handwaving fallacy. I see you are quite fond of fallacies. Unsurprising given the quality of the rest of your opus. That is nopus.
@aferalhousewife8544
@aferalhousewife8544 Күн бұрын
How you managed to tell the land story with a straight face. 😅 bravo.
@OttoSturhahn
@OttoSturhahn Күн бұрын
The Nativ Americans were created in America, they came not from anywhere else in the World, they always lived there. I guess no one can imagine, that they always lived there, the must have come from somewhere. If the came from somewhere, were did the people come from, where the migrated from? Animals also share some of our DNA. As strange as this may sound, the first People in the World came from the Underworld, not from another Planet. So did the first Native's of America came from the Underworld. This is what Mythology, anywhere in the World is trying to say. First come Dead and then Life. This is why Noah send out aa Crow, a Messenger of dead, first and then Columba, the Dove of Aphrodite. Libra means, the balance of the Upper World and the Lower World. under World = upper World. This is why the placed Libra at that Point were Day, (the Living) and Night, the Dead, are equal. This is un imaginable i know. It is only Night or Darkness, because we cannot see beyond dead. The River of no return, as it seems, but there is a shore on the other side. The Fish (Pieces) represent the Souls of the Dead. The Eagle carried him across the River (Ganymede) the Ferryman does not take you across the River, if you did not receive a funeral Ceremony.
@scottfoster3548
@scottfoster3548 Күн бұрын
YES I believe all the pilers within each of the enclosures are to communicate what is being traded/exchanged on. SO the fox pillars showing them dead communicate that here is where fox fur and maybe other types ( that is the various other animals also on the pillars all done so as to communicate that we can take all of these kind of animals) are traded. OR it is where the surrounding hunter gathers bring their game that they have caught and drop off for items in exchange. YOU know what after this exchange we would make our way down Mesopotamia, Anatolian farmer dudes way to ULTAMTELY trade for their BEER. OH, my wild and crazy neolithic period NOW I fear we are all farmers.
@wednesdayschild3627
@wednesdayschild3627 Күн бұрын
That dog is a jackal? Jackals were important in Egypt. The jackal was about the underworld. Osiris was associated with death. Isis conceived Horus posthumously. The phallus was part of the cult of Osirus.
@wednesdayschild3627
@wednesdayschild3627 Күн бұрын
They look like the Egyptian gods. That snake pillar looks like the Pharoah head dress. The vulture is important in Egypt. The priest in Egypt wore leopard skins. There is an Egyptian myth about the gods began the world with his seed.
@NefariousKoel
@NefariousKoel Күн бұрын
The item held in the person's hand on the left, in front of the bull, looks very much like a sling. Notably the length and the pocket on the end. While I think the testes theory is a decent one, the length and shape of the item, especially compared to the size of the person depicted, shouts "sling" to me. As we know those were believed to be in wide use by the neolithic and there is evidence of them from 10,000 BC. They, of course, required practice to be effective - one of the things youths were surely expected to learn before hunting and, therefore, reaching adulthood at the time. Edit: Also do a search for pics of people holding an old-fashioned sling like that. There are some which are uncanny in likeness.
@kevinstringer4276
@kevinstringer4276 Күн бұрын
Could Randle Carlson be right about ancient people recording an ancient cataclysm. It’s strange that the torrid meteorite stream appears in the night sky as if coming from the Pleiades around Halloween each year and within this time span it quite likely may have been linked to one or more meteorite strikes on the earth.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford Күн бұрын
Certain cultures would have been in the position to record events, but it is unlikely those myths would have been global, if they did spread they would have been changed to adapt to the events local to the cultures who would then tell the new versions of the myth. I hope that makes sense.
@xx-lk3bx
@xx-lk3bx Күн бұрын
Sounds like Vedic gods, hence Indo European.
@ellielynn8219
@ellielynn8219 Күн бұрын
This comment thread is amazing with all these different cultures’s versions of this story. We are lucky to live in this day-and-age when we can all talk from different locations and hear these amazing stories. The similarities between them all is amazing.
@Krsnajinana
@Krsnajinana Күн бұрын
Interesting video, but I'm not sure I agree with the assertion 'no shamans in Africa'. At least a superficial examination seems to show the Samgosas in South Africa have very similar practices - drumming, ecstatic trance, visiting the spirits to perform healings. Equally, there are certainly some similiarities with Yoruba traditions. What would be interesting is to use the mythology database (if it doesn't already) to also include some 'practices', not just myth. Ie) use of drums to enter ecstatic trance and commune with spirits, or how many religions/cultures have a 'communion' service
@Crecganford
@Crecganford Күн бұрын
The whole point is that a Shaman is such a loose defination, there could be many, or none.
@Krsnajinana
@Krsnajinana Күн бұрын
@Crecganford what's interesting with your genetic analyses is how you side step many times the issues of 'how things are called and defined', and pick out the 'genes'. I'd love to know what are the 'genes' commonly associated with shamanism, and whether they could be traced back to a common source, just like with the myths. I would imagine it might be trickier because some practices could be independently discovered, ie) if drumming can get one into a trance state, this should be easy enough to discover in isolation, because of our shared Biology. And other practices could be highly regional, because they depend on plants or mushrooms growing in the area. At the same time, the idea of performing a healing by drumming, getting into a trance, and going on a journey to meet the spirits (ancestors or some sort of gods), seems specific enough to imply there is some common root?
@brentwinfield5713
@brentwinfield5713 Күн бұрын
I really enjoyed this
@Crecganford
@Crecganford Күн бұрын
Thank you.
@GreenApophyllite
@GreenApophyllite Күн бұрын
Regarding female figure in lion pillar building. It is similar to 'Lajja Gowri'. A form of hindu goddess gowri, the wife of shiva.
@thomgri
@thomgri Күн бұрын
The Oeh-dah (Earth) was a thought in the mind of the ruler on a great island floating above the clouds. This ruler was called by various names, among them Ha-wen-ni-yu, meaning He who governs or The Ruler.[4] The island is a place of calm where all needs are provided and there is no pain or death. On this island grew a great apple[note 1] tree where the inhabitants held council. The Ruler said "let us make a new place where another people can grow. Under our council tree is a great sea of clouds which calls out for light." He ordered the council tree to be uprooted and he looked down into the depths. He had Atahensic,[note 2] Sky Woman, look down. He heard the voice of the sea calling; he told Atahensic, who was pregnant, to bring it life. He wrapped her in light and dropped her down through the hole.
@GreenApophyllite
@GreenApophyllite Күн бұрын
Technology, craftmaship and artistry is quite advanced even in the earliest monument. That means human history must be older than this.
@macdmacd7896
@macdmacd7896 Күн бұрын
and some of them are genius in science, math, and chemicals that they can cut, carry and erect so many gigantic megaliths.
@CreatrixxxINK
@CreatrixxxINK Күн бұрын
🥰🙏🏼
@Karmaholik
@Karmaholik Күн бұрын
perhaps it was a
@Karmaholik
@Karmaholik Күн бұрын
Pterosaur
@shanegooding4839
@shanegooding4839 Күн бұрын
This is great! One of the best presentations of the tepes I've seen. Thanks Crecganford.😊
@Crecganford
@Crecganford Күн бұрын
Thank you so much.
@GreenApophyllite
@GreenApophyllite Күн бұрын
Regarding bull castration. Practiced even today in Spain. The testicles of the slain bull is bought buy top restaurants. Also, testicles of the sacrificed bull were offered to Artemis of Ephesus. The multiple oval structures were misinterpreted as breasts. But the structures are attached to the tunic rather than the body.
@She_Nanigans
@She_Nanigans Күн бұрын
There's fifteen minutes in this entire video where he hints at the stories of the actual myths. I haven't watched this channel in a while. What happened to it?
@Crecganford
@Crecganford Күн бұрын
What do you mean? Not all videos have the same format, it depends on the amount of research done to date.
@hughcook7329
@hughcook7329 Күн бұрын
A video exploring Jungian ideas in conversation with mythology would be amazing--- even if it completely shreds the idea of archetypes!
@soakedbearrd
@soakedbearrd Күн бұрын
Left brained hyper focused people will never understand these connections, because they are looking at it from partial context and perspective. Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell understood this, as did many throughout history, both individuals and cultures. If you start with the presupposition that life is built from matter as the first principle, and that both time and life can be measured, labeled and indexed sequentially into neat boxes then you not only miss the point entirely, but limit the potentiality of what is and what was possible. At best it’s a partial answer, at worst you are sent on a wild goose chase.
@othoapproto9603
@othoapproto9603 2 күн бұрын
lol,Ha Ha, FuuuuCking hell
@Jackiesguineapigs
@Jackiesguineapigs 2 күн бұрын
sounds like a script of 7 brides for 7 brothers
@gaz8891
@gaz8891 2 күн бұрын
I love the reverence with which you treat these wisps of information from our ancient past and I can't help listening again and again. I hadn't heard of this earliest creation myth of the twins Manu and Yemo. Well if Yemo died, then we are all descendants of Manu, aren't we ? So is this where we get the term 'man' ? Used perhaps to distinguish us from the earlier types of people (the Sumerians said that we are the fifth creation of people by the gods, the earlier ones being 'unsuitable'). And does this also explain the term 'Son of Man', which otherwise is a bit meaningless, presumably to emphasise that we are descendants of Manu, ie. 'normal' people, not the giants or whatever of earlier times ? Interestingly, Jesus generally referred to himself as Son of Man (and only rarely as Son of God).
@Crecganford
@Crecganford Күн бұрын
Thank you for your kind words and thoughts.
@gaz8891
@gaz8891 Күн бұрын
@@Crecganford Well I probably went a bit far there, as you're saying that Manu & Yemo were the creators of the world, but not - I think - of people. Still, makes one wonder ... supposedly there were previous cycles of catastrophe and re-creation, I believe.
@bradlyclark8943
@bradlyclark8943 2 күн бұрын
That said if all the animals are dead except the scorpions and vultures and snakes. That's a plague!
@bradlyclark8943
@bradlyclark8943 2 күн бұрын
I think the hunting part is right. But I don't think the animals are dead. I think they're bowing.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford Күн бұрын
Interesting thought, I hope we will get more images in the coming years which will help us understand more.
@nidhibr
@nidhibr 2 күн бұрын
In Hindu mythology the 7 stars are saptamatrikas, or 7 goddesses.Brahmani emerged from Brahma, Vaishnavi from Vishnu, Maheshvari from Shiva, Indrani from Indra, Kaumari from Kartikeya, Varahi from Varaha and Chamunda from Chandi and additionals are Narasimhi from Narasimha and Vinayaki from Ganesha.
@michaelmick6167
@michaelmick6167 2 күн бұрын
Hunter gatherers could not of built this.
@Crecganford
@Crecganford Күн бұрын
I made the video, not hunter gatherers :)
@ScoopDogg
@ScoopDogg 2 күн бұрын
The 7th sin is who died for us hence iam
@ScoopDogg
@ScoopDogg 2 күн бұрын
7 sisters are to remind you of the 7 deadly sins to avoid doing. Because they appear at a time of no work because you are storing and ready to lock down in winter. Hence idle hands find devils work this is a rwmondwr of the time to pass on this knowledge. Its amazing how only few know these stories our farming families told us in uk for generations because they work id you ignorw you diw thus heaven is on earth and inherited to those who follow the instructions of sun worship the binle is a corrupt dumbing down and makinf it complicayed to the poont its lost all meaning and doeant work hence heaus said to not write it down after abraham was told and his the only one who syaryed this story of 12 signs of simple insyruxtion as it woeks becaiae you survoved a season into a year and raised a family n fed them ao you see it works its life or death n all needed to live on earth 3 days work and happy flock labour then reap rewards plant breed sow harvest share rest repeat in a ordwr but at correct time or it wont be easy ro plough in winter but why plough if an horses hoovea will turn and fertilise for you of left to roam the fields