CREEPY Things That Were "Normal" in Ottoman Empire

[@NuttyProductionsOfficial]

Would you turn on your sibling to gain power of a kingdom? Smash that like button if you would spare your fam ...

[@curiouspmindblowinghistory5369]

And i thought you meant ''smash that like button if we turn on our sibling to gain power of a kingdom''..lol .. I need to read your statement twice..lol .. ANyway,spare my fam in a hearbeat! Fam first!

[@abdulsmith9298]

Im a fan of history , just subscribe to your channel and i think it's dope!

[@TrineDaely]

If said sibling would ruin or worsen the country, yes.

[@cccwolfturkccc]

Killing of the brothers of the emperor is not a reason of the empire downfall !quite the contrary my friend ! It is the main reason why they lasted so long ! The downfall starts when they stopped this practice ! You have the understand this was a sacrifice of the sultans ! Because some prominent men of the empire like generals and veziers would use these princes and alot more iinocent lives would be lost just because a vezier or general wanted to support a prince that would bring them more prominence ! So dont get it twisted ! This was not brutality ! This was a sacrifice of the dynasty ! This tells me you havent studied the subject thorougly! I recommend you do before you bash these ppl and accuse them of ruthlessness ! Many if not all of them would mourn these killings of their brothers for years

[@cccwolfturkccc]

This whole video is filled with misinformation ! They were not gardeners they were the guards of the exterior of the palace and the sultan ! And yes they knew of gardening but this was not their priority

[@chrislj2890]

4:45 The first recorded selfie was taken on a smart phone. Those Ottomans were really advanced for their time.

[@J3diMindTrix]

I just pointed that out I was wondering if anyone else noticed it lol

[@helmetfire5973]

@@J3diMindTrix I should of scrolled down more before hijacking a top comment lol

[@TuAFFalcon]

Time Traveler.

[@hamada7897]

Looool

[@hali6514]

I came to the comment section just to look for this comment lol

[@afrahf9010]

Did you'll know that most of these traditions were much similar in China in the imperial ages. The only difference was women in Chinese Harems were brought from aristocratic families. The battle for the throne between consorts in the name of their sons was just as similar and brutal. China's first female emperor Wu Zetian has an amazing story of how she came to power from being a low ranking concubine.

[@dwolfstudio2]

Yes, but Ottomans did all of these things until they collapse. Here in Bulgaria old people are still singing the songs of lost souls to the blood tax.

[@jermaincummings2679]

My God you know that is why sometimes just sometimes we need to be thankfull for some of the thing's we sometimes take for granted in this Era

[@RW-rt5nd]

I wonder how many of these traditions originated in the lands to China's north and how many came from China itself: the rule against spilling noble blood was recognized by the Mongols as well.

[@smallfeet4581]

watched a docu on china and like the ottomans they poisoned people close to them in positions to get rid of them,

[@scene247]

Thank you for pointing that out. Every nation has blood on it's hands. How many have strength to admit it though.

[@englishcoach7772]

One thing you may be forgetting is the ottoman turks were incredibly competitive in the beginning. And before they outdid the seljuk byzantine and mongol enemies, the enemy would always clandestinely support the brothers or uncles of the head beis, not only this but brothers and uncles of head beis could and often would open their own tribal chapters in other regions inside anatolia, thinning out the numbers of the central tribe and making their people more vulnerable. They were not as you might believe any different to plantagenet or other noble english dynasties. Who killed family members, friends and allies for the threat of high ambition or instability within their court of operations.

[@johnmacleod8507]

Ann Boleyn would knod her head in agreement. Oh , so sorry Ann , that was in bad taste .

[@samalaimukhametova7290]

Удивительно видеть такое сравнение. Да уж семья правителей, как у оседлых народов, я надеялась хотя бы до Мехмеда 2 было крепкие семейные узы

[@jayhunter1652]

Except they were, the osmanli empire was a rare example of a polity that left no nostalgia, even the turks themselves fought for their independence when time came. It is a testament to mankind's susceptibility to hysteria and insanity, if provided with the wrong institutions.

[@Kaizer243]

According to Turkish tradition, the blood of the royal family is not shed. That's why the princes were strangled to death. Do not think of the brotherhood in the Ottoman dynasty as your own brotherhood. The prince was appointed as the governor from a young age and they were subjected to strict education. each sibling was located in a different province. fratricide did not appear out of nowhere, lessons were learned from the previous fights for the throne and such a practice was started. Previously, each prince formed his own army and went to war for the throne. therefore the state was weakening and the authority could not be fully established.

[@halkras]

True They were using bows to stangle them Best example is suleiman killed his elder son mustafa

[@eretna2480]

@kızgın tosbağa this is not true, selim the first does not wear an ear ring, it is a misconception and that photo actually belongs shah ismail

[@fatihaksoy5885]

Ear ring thing is true cz he says i am the slave of the god, but that photo you are talking about is probably shah ismail's

[@doyouwantthetotalwar]

@@eretna2480 That "slave of the state" tradition was true tho. Even the Sultan was *de jure* the property of the "Eternal Sublime State".

[@eretna2480]

thats also not true, sultans are only subjugated to allah itself. the sublime state belongs solely to sultan himself.@@doyouwantthetotalwar

[@nazmardacagdas4761]

Actually the "death race" part seems a little bullshit information. First of all, the "photograph" you claimed to be Hacı Salih Paşa actually belongs to "Salih Hulusi Paşa" who was appointed as Grand Vizier only for one month in May 1920, at the very end of Ottoman realm and during the dawn of Republican Turkey. There are two statesmen with the name Hacı Salih Paşa and the younger one died in 1828, long before the invention of the technology of photography. I have read most of the credible academic historical studies about Ottoman Empire in different languages for 25 years and have never met such a bizarre tradition. After the watching the video, I made google search in different languages for a long time and only found some cheesy articles published in tabloid magazines written by non-academic writers in English language and lacking even one single academic reference. Both medieval and contemporary Turkish language chronicles are quite honest about the unpleasent traditions in Ottoman Palace, from opium addiction to pedophilia among notables. In such detailed and non-partial narratives, there is no single Turkish record about your so-called death race. Another stupidity of this claim is the bullshit translation of the term Bostancıbaşı, which is wrongly translated as chief gardener. Although Bostan means "orchard" or "vegetable plantation" Bostancıbaşı is the name for CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER OF THE PALACE, NOT THE CHIEF OF THE GARDENERS!!! At least this is a little more meaningful to think that chief security officer can be ordered to execute a high ranking official (such as Lavrenti Beria's personal murders of high-ranking Soviet officials by Stalin's order). This kind of brutish entertainment is less likely to be possible in 1820's, during the reign of "Mahmud II" who is very-well known with his full scale westernization of Ottoman bureaucracy and society. Mahmud II can be considered similar to Peter the Great of Russia and his reforms. Sultan Mahmud pioneered the establishment of most of modern Turkish ministeries, a modern system of justice including three supreme courts, initiated a policy of partial secularism and equal citizenship for Muslim and non-Muslim subjects of the empire. Mahmud imported every aspect of western lifestyle and even banned traditional Ottoman costumes and ordered all bureaucrats to wear European style uniforms and trousers. Is it possible to claim a Grand Vizier was forced to a death race during the reign of such an enlightened ruler? The fratricide and harem parts are okay, but I am quite disturbed with such low-quality orientalist approach in your content. Sorry to press Dislike button.

[@gebeskablumbag6119]

Boşver, anlamaz onlar

[@mclovinmclovin5395]

I guess it is an attempt to sensationalize his video, but instead of showing gross historical inaccuracies, the content provider should have done more research, as the over than 500 years old Ottoman Empire is full of intriguing facts. Thank you for your rectifications.

[@metternich_999]

@@gebeskablumbag6119 Niye anlamasınlar? Onlar akepli çomar değil ki?

[@inigo9000]

I thought Ataturk was the one that did that?

[@equarg]

This is why I nervously laugh when ever I hear someone say “the good old days”.

[@pierregibson6699]

Exactly!!!!

[@Highisthighs]

You sound ignorant

[@vitoaditya1243]

Yeah : slavery, war , mass starvation, barbaric punishment, is very common in old days.

[@elisejackson2854]

@@vitoaditya1243 it still is so…..

[@JoJo-wd3dq]

I don’t think they mean that old 🤣

[@johngreen3543]

If you recall Roman history, you may recall that Caracalla killed his brother Geta, before Geta could kill him. Then he killed 20,000 of Geta's followers. This elliminated the possibility of a civil war and it stuck in my mind while you were talking about killing relatives. Ottomans I am sure knew that it would be unwise to leave more than one possible relative to be sultan after the old sultan had died. They were familiar with Roman history and all the many civil wars they had to endure.

[@donrog5035]

Civil wars in Roman Empire were between generals for the most part. It was rare for imperial children to compete for the throne. So roman history is a bad example for the justification of such practice. And Caracalla and Geta hated each other way before they became co-emperor. I don’t think he killed Geta because of throne race, it was personal

[@johngreen3543]

@@donrog5035 but the ottoman's "generals" were either the grand vizier(a close family friend) or a relative. And if the relative or the vizier got too popular with his troops the sultan had him killed. Not exactly the same as the Roman example but close enough.

[@donrog5035]

@@johngreen3543 In Rome generals weren’t that much linked to the imperial family.

[@vincentkosik403]

Doubt He killed his brother, Geta, because he was trying to kill him first. Actually. Their mother, Julia Donna, arranged a meeting between them to divide the Empire between them like in the previous reign of Marcus Aurelius and Verus. From what I read he would not tolerate such and his insane obsession of some reign had him murder Gets in their mothers arms! Julia was ordered never to display any remorse over the act. What a piece of work...He got his when a soldier assassinates him while he was taking a leak

[@notsosilentmajority1]

So, you're suggesting that they did this because of Roman history??

[@senolkrasimirov3705]

Fratricide didn't let the Ottomans to their downfall. It actually helped the empire to live for hundreds of years because of preventing Civil wars.

[@afrahf9010]

Yep. Gruesome it was, but it made the sultan stronger. Cause he had to prove himself worthy to get there. The downfall was caused by the women in the harem. When they started getting involved in politics, the sultans lost their power. If there was no harem and thousands of women fighting to put their sons on the throne, the Ottomon would've thrived.

[@NoName-sp5dp]

@@afrahf9010 now we blame women 🙄

[@grimgoreironhide9985]

@@afrahf9010 The whole Ottoman succession system was flawed. The practice of fratricide was a symptom of a bigger problem. The Sultan having too many wives and getting them pregnant. Their reliance on an elite slave soldiers for the military was also a huge weakness. They made the same mistake as the Ayyubids and Abbasids. The Ottomans also relied heavily on an agricultural economy and not an industrialized one like the Western powers.

[@skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306]

@@grimgoreironhide9985 It was not flawed when infant mortality rates were like 50%. The "Turkish succession" actually helped the dynasty tremendously. We are talking about 600 years of continous dynastic rule, unimaginable with european(or muslim) standards. All thanks to the steppe-law of state sanctioned fratricide.

[@BringBacktheGreeks]

@@afrahf9010 "to prove himself worthy ..."? "It made the sultan stronger..."????? You seem to admire such barbarity. Actually the sultan did not have to prove himself stronger, IF you paid attention, the candidates grew up enclosed in the palace, and in some cases, locked in cages, by their own mothers, for their own protection. They were educated, but they were seeing their own brothers as their mortal enemies, to kill, or be killed by them one day. That made all the sultans psychotic, and eventually led to the demise of the whole empire. You may admire the ottomans all you want, the rest of the world sees them as barbarians to be avoided at all costs.

[@HH-pv9ex]

I learned on this channel that rulers in all the ages had the blood of their relatives on their hands. Greeks, Roman's, Egyptians, Turks, and many others, they all did it. Seems to be a curse of the throne.

[@mas_ann]

Yuppp. if you want to know abiut england king, pls read a book titled "s dark history of the kings and queens of england.

[@cheshirepat30]

The attitude is the same for all power. Obviously now people can’t overtly murder, but the hard and Machiavellian attitude is still there.

[@JamesSmith-ui2hv]

Spanish Empire??

[@ntvans]

What you do not grasp is that in all other empires or kingdoms, killing relatives was ocassional and or circumstantial. In the Ottoman empire relatives murder was institutionalized, systematic and culturally endorsed. Together with skinning one alive and impaling as a standard ,formal punishment. Also way different to engage in these practices hundred of years BC , in the Middle Ages or as in the case of the Ottomans, in the 18th century (when European thought was going through the Enlightment period)

[@ntvans]

Which war do you refer to? I was not talking about war casualties.I was referring to standard practises of delivering punishment by formal authorities as well as institutinalized murder of kins and relatives in a uniform manner continuously for hundreds of years.

[@Mauzzzzz]

Well, sibling wars are normal in case of an empire, not only in the Ottoman Empire. I've seen one in Tsarist Russia.

[@gurglejug627]

You've seen one? Goodness, just how old are you? Or are you simply a boring liar?

[@gurglejug627]

@Union Of Green I think you've missed the point - he wrote "I've seen one in Tsarist Russia" - so how old is he to have "seen" it? Or he's living in a fantasy world. Whether there was one or not is an entirely separate matter. I'm not really sure why you are arguing on this rather clear point?

[@mp3ifier]

@@gurglejug627 lol he probably did not literally mean he “saw it” but hes heard/read that it happened in Tsarist russia

[@zee9709]

@@gurglejug627 ive seen one in a movie

[@asilaslapt1510]

In ottoman empire almost most of ruler's did .did all stars did the same?

[@denizozsan3453]

Fratricide was brutal but a custom that settled after centuries of governmental experiences. Surely isnt right by todays standards but one has to remember that the practice wasnt just deemed to the turks but rather almost every mknarchy that came to be. Now there a couple problems with the explanations in this video. Fratricide prevented potential civil wars that would lead to all the more deaths. Throughout the history of the monarchy’s one can infer that any individual who has a rite of ruling will knfact pursue it. Its not pretty in any sense but one that was deemed necessary for the time. These were also times in europe where royal blood would also be spilled to a great extent. The main reason as to these atrocities being commited to this extent was the law that enabled all relations to the royal blood to have a the rite of ruling. This was lated changed when mehmed the conqueror took charge. He recieced the throne at the age of 13 from his father after having him relent the throne due to his insufficiencies. The father later takes the throne but dies. So mehmed became the padishah twice in that sense. No blood spilled until this point. Later the palace politics take a turn for the worse and however ugly it may be he sees whats to come. Out of grief and sadness he later changes the policy to the rite of ruling to the sons of the emperor and the sons only to prevent moor bloodshed. This does limit this practice to skme extent but does not disable it. The old and the wise policy abolishes this practice but ultimately leads to the doom of the empire. Because of the faults of the system being implemented. The rulers and the potential rulers are bohnd to the palace and the palace only for their safety. But this restricts the governing capabilities to an amazing extent which later devolves central power and leads to smaller “lord” like rulers to emerge, gain power, and to get greedy. And suleiman the great is known for the reforms of justice that reduces the corruption to a minimum. His main concubine at the time has control too much control over him and frames his son for murder so that the justice of the great emperor may kill him lawfully. Textbook palace politics. This was for the sons he bore with him to assume power. This infact is considered to be one of the main reasons for the decline kf the state. So he doesnt just kill him to assume power. Why would he? A ruling emperor to be overthrown by his own son needs to have a lower power position but at this point he was the supreme dominant ruler he was and no one dared act against him. This restored stability to the region for a while. Mind you these were the golden times and the burden of keeping it the golden times were too much so no chences were to be taken. Ottoman civilisation flourished until the vezir that practically ran state with two padishahs giving up their power in his lifetime. After he dies it basically all goes to shit though. Misinterpretation of islam through the greed of the so called men of religion allow this. The same kind of corruption plays in fact a much bigger role kn europe at the time. Europe recovers while the ottoman empire goes into dissaray combined with the industrial revolution, you get the downfall. So before judging the people of the time one has to consider the norms of the time. In a broader perspective every single person was as brutal as the other, if not in one then in another way. History is written by the eventual winner and those are the european powers majnly england and france. So before condemning people to such judgements one has to remember every aspect. Thank you for bearing with me until the end. I hope this helps to put perspective into the current stature of the once glorious ottoman empire.

[@asgarthukumdarbeyab7100]

You know the answer to the lives of a brother who will die or the lives of thousands of people who will die in civil war.

[@samalaimukhametova7290]

Жақсы айттыңыз

[@Yekemcar]

This explains very well why among 36 sultans, there are 27 sultans who killed at least his father or brother or uncl or cousins or was a pan-killer (killed most of relatives).

[@carrisasteveinnes1596]

Mehmed The Turd likes this comment.

[@kursadunal7356]

All the killed family members in total is not more than 50. If they didnt kill their brother of father, there would be a war. Just like with sultan selim. Thousands of people die because of 1 man. So the sultan prefere to kill his brother. If you ask me its a very good disicion. (Sorry for my bad english)

[@Big-BossX]

@@kursadunal7356 not a good decision but the lesser evil would be more accurate

[@lzstep80]

Old time that was normal. European kings killed their relatives a lot of times(like Clodvig I.)until middle Medieval times or blinded them etc.

[@thedstorm8922]

@Timur Serdengeçti its either that or you cause the death of thousands of baby's during a long civil war

[@kankazea]

Those creepy things were pretty much normal in almost all empires in history, just saying

[@helmetfire5973]

Hijacking your comment to point something out. @4:42 .... are those 2 dudes taking a selfie?

[@kankazea]

@@helmetfire5973 hahah it does seem like it, not quite sure what it’s supposed to be

[@MDJamal-ci7ct]

@@helmetfire5973 time travel

[@dmitrimikrioukov5935]

No, those creepy things were not normal in all empires. For example, do you know why Ivan the Terrible was called that? Because he was the most cruel ruler in all of Russian history at least until Peter I and indeed a complete exception.

[@UncleMark13]

Not really

[@marcopolo6944]

Gotta love that last bit "orphans and Hungarians were off limits because of trust issues" lolol

[@ephilippos]

At least Hungarians, Romanians, Austrians, Armenians & Greeks knew & know their ‘history’ with Ottomans very well….its the rest of the world that doesnt follow…a strong reminder is on the way

[@Sawrattan]

It was the same in Southeast Asia, Europeans avoided buying Muslim/Malay slaves for the same reason, so they mostly bought Hindu Balinese slaves instead.

[@tiborpurzsas2136]

Hungarians were in war with the Turks for hundreds of years ! Hungary was the gate of Europe from the southeast , where the Turkish army would be advancing from ! The fortune of war went back and forth from the 14th century tru the 16th , when finally the Hungarians lost to the more numerous, more powerful Turkish army! Hungary than had to pay taxes to the Turks, basically become a wassal state !

[@er2206]

@@ephilippos So true

[@dtikvxcdgjbv7975]

@@ephilippos ...Croats...

[@damienclement6949]

Haci Salih Pasha, the last death race champion, what a legend!!

[@MrEmretti]

hahaha

[@bejtabej]

Ottoman Sultan DIES! His sons: Oh crap😳

[@BringBacktheGreeks]

Let the Survival of the Cruelest Game Begin.

[@wankawanka3053]

New objective:survive

[@seyitahmetozturk5458]

Well it helped to keep empire alive

[@iskambillordu]

im in danger

[@golden.lights.twinkle2329]

The Ottomans took headwear to an entirely new level.

[@haideraliibnakhlaq8823]

Wearing large turbans was normal in this period

[@waynegray675]

I prefer Anglo Saxon head protection. More honour in it. But I guess if you're a sh1thead, wearing a nappy on your head makes sense

[@iskambillordu]

those were their coffins. its supposed to remind them that nothing lasts forever. so,be a good ruler,not a cruel one.

[@thfkmnIII]

Onionhead!

[@cristinamiacatio1031]

yes, to hide hydrocephalus.

[@schallrd1]

History teaches us how demented we really are.

[@zee9709]

And we doesn't seems improve much....

[@oldementiajoe4914]

And it also teaches us the fantastic things humans can accomplish. It’s a mixed bag.

[@foadiron]

We? It's the filth that run the world, not us.

[@martinalewis2844]

Well said

[@epehal5955]

@@zee9709 he said "are" not "were"

[@spddiesel]

First thing you do instead of running toward the gate is run at the head gardener. Hit him in the chest with a flying kick and THEN make a break for it. Kinda like that dude that roundhoused the catcher before charging the mound.

[@gurglejug627]

Know it all wanker, do you think you're Bruce Lee, the Cray twins and Mohammed Ali combined?

[@saycat6758]

@@gurglejug627 Yes,maybe a swift hard kick in the groin will just be fine,

[@spddiesel]

@@gurglejug627 who are the Cray twins and wtf does a boxer have to do with kicking someone?

[@gurglejug627]

@@spddiesel There's this magical new system called "the internet" - if you type in "Cray twins" (and remember to hit "enter"), I reckon you'll get some idea. But I must grovel at the very feet of such a martial art and escapology expert combined, unworthy...unworthy...

[@spddiesel]

@@gurglejug627 you mistake my dismissal for interest. Maybe you can use the interwebs to look up "rhetorical question."

[@phillipkalaveras1725]

They taught me in school that only white Europeans did terrible things and everybody else was planting flowers and hugging each other.

[@attilamert6973]

What

[@lifeneverends7068]

The worst is skinning a person alive as a punishment and pouring melted metal into eye sockets 😱

[@Nilbog-Hunter]

@@esadmusic4385 p boi

[@pe_w]

@@esadmusic4385 and there's no way he straight up thought of something like that.

[@zorannikolic2605]

@@esadmusic4385 Truth hurts 🤣

[@smallfeet4581]

its thinking that people actually thought those things up , brutal world in history , who would actually want to inflict those things on another person ,

[@nmp3132]

@@esadmusic4385 Exactly!!

[@TsjuunTze]

Thats why they fight so hard in Battlefield 1

[@mrgopnik5964]

It’s honestly terrifying to think that the Ottoman Empire was considered one of the nicer places to live during the 15th to 18th century

[@jasondeluca4340]

it was because at the time it was the 'first world' country. every religion had their freedoms. People would rather pay extra tax and live than be killed on sight in europe.

[@geewhiz5926]

The Portuguese Empire was much nicer 😉

[@gothicavictoria1341]

@@jasondeluca4340 Every religion had their freedoms? And the part where the Ottoman's kidnapped Christian children, castrated them, sold them as slaves, and forced them to convert? Or the extra taxes one had to pay if you weren't a Muslim. What laws in European countries said that you could kill a non-Christian on sight? It certainly was discriminatory, prejudiced, and bloody, but Europe was no better or worse than the Ottoman Empire..

[@Looseskru]

@@gothicavictoria1341 he said circumcision not castration 🤔

[@A85-o2x]

@@gothicavictoria1341 EU was deff way worse then the ottomans

[@TheopolisQSmith]

Humans, gotta love them.

[@theemirofjaffa2266]

I know, right

[@silverltc2729]

Thank God that the Ottoman Empire no longer exists.

[@kavvame]

What will you say to the millions slaughtered in South America under the name of geographical discoveries, the stolen gold, the slaves and exploited wealth of Africa, the cruelties committed in China and India, the two world wars that took place and the third one is on its way, the CIA being behind all four coups in Turkey in just 80 years and them still continuing their curses? You can't say anything. I say. The most bloodthirsty races the world has ever seen are the Angl-Saxon and Germanic races. In short, the West...

[@kkkkkkkkkkk6313]

The brotherkilling ended after Sulaiman died. And some historiens das this was the reason for the decline of the empire because whenever a sultan wanted to weaken the power of the corrupt janidschas they killed and replaced him with a dummer relative. The best example is Osman II. And when a Sultan a Reformer finaly came to power he only has one relative and there was so much rebellion along the janidschars that he has to kill his last relative to make Sure that he could not be replaced no matter what.

[@jakdhalegutierrez3129]

No, it ended when Amhed the first ascended. Sulaiman had two of his sons killed meanwhile there is still debate if it was actually Selim who caused Bayazids death. Selim's son Murad killed his brothers and Murad's son Mehmed III killed 19 of his brothers. Even after Amhed declared a stop to the practice both of his sons Osman killed his younger brother Mehmed and when Osman of removed from the throne his Uncle Mustafe killed him. After Mustafa was removed from the throne he was replaced by Kosems son Murad. Murad ended up killing the rest of his brothers only sparing Ibrahim because Ibrahim was considered to be mad.

[@asilaslapt1510]

@@jakdhalegutierrez3129 and kosem killed ibrahim later kosems daughter in law killed her and she said she will not let to kill any of the prince

[@asilaslapt1510]

It continued for many years after dulaimans death .sulaiman himself killed his 2 sons .ottoman empire was weekening in all thease time after kosem it further declined l wonder from where u learnt history @kkkkkkkkkkk6313? .many sons and stronger brothers were killed and sometimes week alcoholic mentally ill sultans came which led to many problems

[@paulszymanski2513]

This is only creepy if you don't know much about history of empires. By eliminating all pretenders you limited the number of civil wars fought for the throne. This top down sacrifice is something to be admired compared to other cultures where pretenders were left alive and resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths in wars over the throne.

[@praetorianstride5948]

Ahh, but how to determine who is a “pretender” and who isn’t? I think that’s written by the victors.

[@paulszymanski2513]

@@praetorianstride5948 On the scale of national calamity that is a civil war it makes absolutely no difference to the nation as long as one remains.

[@Athanatoi]

@@praetorianstride5948 Doesn't really matter. It is a small and meaningless sacrifice for peace and stability at least for one generation.

[@Ozgur72]

Love all those pictures of harem drawn by european painters who have never entered the place.

[@apemoon1731]

Do you know the artists then? 🤔

[@w.callens1629]

They probably drew from memory...

[@AMR_k400]

@@w.callens1629 well there was a movement or more properly art called orientalism its an art in which western Europeans would draw fantasies about the oriental world by no means were they accurate because msot of them never stepped a foot there but heard a few things and filled the rest from their imagination

[@goofygrandlouis6296]

@@w.callens1629 hahaha, I'm pretty their minds would have been occupied with something else if they ever had entered ! 😉

[@svrona7696]

The only two men who could enter the Harem is the Sultan and the Harem Ağası. Which roughly translates to Harem Master. And these masters would be castrated and specificly chosen amongs more feminine men. Those men gave birth to a secret cult of homosexuals in the palace called "Oğlancılar". You can even find old drawings based on them painted during those times.

[@kaigottwald2195]

The sultan had to throw people out of his rooms to put his pants on??? How come he had his pants off with all those people around??

[@barryirlandi4217]

Loooooool

[@orestesmitas]

This is who the Greeks had to deal with over the millennia

[@K.Pershing]

Not just them all orthodoxs under the ottomans

[@skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306]

They were better off being our colonial subjects for 500 years. At least they had some bread to eat and not broke. lol

[@georgej.dorner3262]

More proof that "normal" is a matter of definition. The Ottomans had a gruesome one.

[@FOtus-yw1rr]

Ottomana did not even exist when others were do it everywhere.

[@billyjesus5442]

compare it to the inquisitions taking place during europe at the time.

[@georgej.dorner3262]

@@billyjesus5442 Even more proof.

[@straceshow3212]

What do you expect.

[@justinlance4174]

@@billyjesus5442 yes the Muslim crusades. Not mentioned in history.

[@brucebreedlove7743]

Seems that there is no limit to human depravity, nor man's inhumanity to man...

[@cierakitty]

Soooo the Ottoman empires had sultans......they had harems.....many women...many sons. First born male was to inherit the throne upon father's death.....unless he was killed or died...then the next one was in line etc. etc. Yep, could and did get pretty ugly. Just imagine the plans and plots against each other to get to the throne....and even if you did...always watching your back. Who could you really trust ? Whose side was your advisors and even body guards on ? ( not to mention "accidents", tainted food, wine, and so on).

[@juliie007]

The first born wasn’t the sole heir. All sons of the sultan were crown princes in their own right. This was to ensure that the strongest candidate inherited the throne through ability and not primogeniture like European aristocracy. In fact the downfall of the Ottoman Empire resulted from adopting primogeniture practices from Europe in the later centuries.

[@johnellis5865]

This Ottoman Turk Muslim monarchy lasted a long long time - hundreds of years. It was based on slavery of Captive White Christian peoples like Greeks, Serbs, Bulgarians, Romanians - Spanish Christian women sold in to slavery by the occupying Muslim Moor rulers of Spain from the 8th to the 15th century . Pretty much NO/Zero American are aware of this huge, Ottoman Turkish Muslim Monarchy empire that featured White slavery as the basis for their ruling class.

[@attilamert6973]

@@johnellis5865 Basis?

[@theagoraphobicatheist]

Who else LOVES these videos?! ✋ Keep it up, Nutty!

[@IrishMike22]

Anyone with a less than tight grasp on history, probably. These videos are riddled with assumptions and mistakes--but that's what makes them funny.

[@mtmadigan82]

You would think the worst is that crappy piece of furniture being the lasting memory of the empire...

[@henkvermeer8652]

so Vlad Dracul gave the Ottomans a taste of their own medicine!

[@arcotroll8530]

The Dracul actually was inspired by the Ottomans to use terror as a way to inspire loyalty, when he was their prisoner in his youth

[@eedragonr6293]

@@arcotroll8530 The Impaler had no other choice but to use a terror law to save his country and his nation, being caught between a civil war and the Ottoman invasion, under time pressure. He managed to do in 7-8 years what others didn't do in a life long reign. He also was a very courageous and skilled warrior till the end.

[@eedragonr6293]

Yes, it seems the Turks managed to steal their giving in sword.

[@kaptannuh1064]

Yes he try to impressed Sultan Mehmet II but his fight was short against the Ottoman war maschine.. They catch him in 1468.. Impale him.. Beheading him and sending the head to the Sultan in Konstantinopel. He was just a sick psychopathic Devil worshipper.. A cannibal and blood drinker... even his own people was very happy after he died.

[@Original_Master]

Not entirely accurate, the Ottomans weren't famous for torturing and impaling civilians...

[@Orthosaur7532]

Bulgars, Serbs, Romanians, Albanians and Greeks ALL suffered from this.

[@Greensanctuary-c4w]

We still do

[@July4-u5z]

Many more but many more benefitted too

[@mariocroatia9321]

Slavery in the Ottoman Emipre was only abolished in 1908

[@secondchance6603]

Smashed that like button like I was smashing the life out of a possible contender for the throne!

[@landonlacy1954]

Oh I see what you did there lol

[@adamdemirs3466]

My grandfather on my fathers side came from Albania in the twenties. A ruler of Turkey from the 1800s shares our last name. I have blood from both sides of the crusades and from the Norwegian Vikings but I still have family in Albania.

[@amarildo4040]

So wich ethnic group do you consider yourself part of??

[@Wolfy39565]

cool

[@koralpoztekin1927]

Demir means iron btw

[@nanobots7004]

your highness

[@iskambillordu]

we have the same surname. demir. means iron. probably your ancestors were blacksmiths.

[@tonegrail650]

Most mothers of Ottoman Sultans entered the harem as terrified Christian captive slave girls paraded naked in the slave markets of Istanbul. The only way they could survive was to go all Stockholm Syndrome and make the best of the hand they were dealt. Pretty much every Sultan was the child of a rapist father and a captive mother. Think Ariel Castro but on a much larger and state sanctioned level. This is the same thing that ISIS does with their capture and rape of Yazidi girls. Where do you think ISIS learned this practice from? Islam has done this since it's inception.

[@igeo.449]

@@tonegrail650 Shhhh, 🙊 nobody's gonna comment on this barbaric fact that's still at play even today, what a horrible shame!!!!!

[@MyMy-tv7fd]

for CS Lewis's take on the Ottomans, read the 'The Horse and His Boy', part of the Narnia chronicles

[@jhtsurvival]

Hm

[@jhtsurvival]

You should read the Patrick O'Brian books

[@marcthomas4488]

Yes.. they were depicted as the villainous Calormen "the worshippers of Tash"

[@marcthomas4488]

@someone else

[@justmeow483]

So being a male "high-born" in Ottoman Empire is basically joinning a family battle Royal match.

[@regularpeps7267]

This is interestingly new for me.. would you like to share resources.. Keep doing the good job man..

[@marjanmiladinovic4066]

Btw the the picture of impailing on your video is not an Otoman way. That was used by Romanians, Serbs, Bulgarians and Montenegrinas, as a way to punish Otomans and to strike fear in their hearts. Sorry for bad English

[@anthonyburke5656]

The thing I found creepiest about the Ottoman Empire was the candidates for and methods of choice of succession. First, the wives were slaves from all over the Empire, second, the successor was the one who got rid of all opposition, including their brothers and in some cases sisters, Uncles and Aunts. Then there was the Janissaries, the children of Christian subjects were stolen at age from 5 to 10, used as body servants, calamities, trained as Soldiers, Clerks and Public Servants, even castrated and used as Public Servants or Harem guards.

[@khalidibnalwalid2032]

Lol

[@tacidar558]

In first years of the devshirme system were cristian families worried about their children but the ottomans let them study and be intelectual instead of shepherd in their villages. And they had a chance to be a bureaucrat and pahsa or general in an army and live better. For this reason this families were easily convinced to give their child. + Ottomans did never take the unic child of the family, first they looked the family and if there were many boys, they took 1 of them. + you cannot comment so confidently and subjective an event before 400-500 years. Is it a normal and moral act, the massacers, royal marriages of the west, crusades and muslim massacer there, colonies, sell and buy african slaves, bring them to europe by force etc..???

[@anthonyburke5656]

@@tacidar558 you do know slavery was still practised in the Ottoman Empire until it fell? The last manumitted slave died in the 1980s and their children still live in Turkey. The taking of Christian children wasn’t the benevolent institution that you try to paint. The Ottoman Empire was in fact a proto-fascist system that strangled itself by fear and bureaucracy. There was no glory or higher purpose in the Ottoman Empire, only the exploitation of the many by the few, rather like Turkey today as it winds back the reforms of the Young Turks generally.

[@tacidar558]

@@anthonyburke5656 brother you are exaggerating the ottomans. They were simply a medieval empire like every other countries. They just did things that the others also did. I dont know from where is your hate of Ottomans but I think the massacers which nazis did, the slaves which were brought to america and europe by "intelectual" and "protector of human rights" and "modern" europe countries. Did you forget the fascist italian empire, japan or china, did you forget the communist russia? In the ottoman empire the slaves were forced to study and to contribute the empire (girls in Harem, good payed janissaries which were an imperial army with freedom of leave it, have childs, return home or be a merchant). Note: I only write what I read in internet and books written by european but also oriental historians. So if you dont believe just search it. + I know that Turkey actually has a fascist government and I'm not supporting that. I think Turkey is a big country (actually also rich but you know the last years with Erdogan....) with a boom of culture and history from 4000 bc. and good turistical attractions in every city but Turkey should start to imitate the modern law of europe and us and protect the rights of every type of man and woman. :)

[@tacidar558]

@@anthonyburke5656 you said ottomans had slavery until they fell but which country hadnt? You dont need to criticize a contry so heavily because it is just history and you cannot be a friend a fan and an enemy of a country in history because they fell years ago. So you just should criticize every country objectively paying attention at its epoch.

[@Celtic_Blade]

*sees red Sherbert* Vizers laughing: “Run Bitch!”

[@kaptannuh1064]

Lol.. 😁😅😄

[@SkitariiB-]

One of the cruelest folks in history

[@paulaharrisbaca4851]

Latino families follow this practice to this day. The eldest son gets the goodies. The girls get passed over. I suppose this came from Spain, which was obviously greatly influenced by the Muslim world. My husband is supposedly the primary heir. His 4 sisters aren't. But his dad will outlive us all, I think....

[@darthbigred22]

Influenced is a polite way to say conquered and enslaved for 700 years but ok. Isabella was right better to find a new route than trade with the bastards who enslaved your people. Also primogeniture dates back long before the Muslims and they were late to the civilization party as usual.

[@YMe-hp7hi]

@@darthbigred22 how do live a normal life when you're fuming about something that happened thousands of years ago. You're the BLM movement that demands reparation for slavery.

[@Saracen.]

It’s actually unIslamic but rather Christian that the oldest son inherits everything. The ottomans did things very differently because Arab/Asian tradition shares equally between all the boys and not the girls. In Islam a girl ROUGHLY gets a share between a 1/3 or 1/4 of what her brother gets to depending on the amount of girls in the family.

[@Joshua-jx4jy]

No they don't, your husbands family is backwards af.

[@werewolfhunter2011]

@@darthbigred22 the amount of seethe in this comment hahaha

[@melihozdemir2561]

There is not a word "Kafe" in Turkish. Kafes is a singular word and means 'cage'.

[@AngryNegativeHistoryProject]

when people hate america or europe, they dont make these comparrisons and say "well everyone was bad then."

[@AngryNegativeHistoryProject]

@@tanura5830 that's what my channel is doing.

[@shehryarashraf5840]

the harem started when timur the lame captured the wife of sultan murad after the battle of ankara and forced her to serve him in the nude. thus began the practice of never marrying, instead keeping a harem to avoid the humiliation a second time.

[@Smiler2724]

It's was sultan bayazid first

[@guineapigzed]

Who fixes cars in Turkey? The ottoman.

[@yossarianmnichols9641]

The kidnapping and muslim conversion of the fittest boys in the Christian towns was a master stroke. You reduce your enemies ability to build a strong army and make your own army better. But just like Saudi Arabia today eliminating your own citizens from military service weakens the patriotism of the your own citizens. Eventually the Janissaries became a separate political and military force and finally deposed the Caliph.

[@exactlyloler61]

No, they did not depose the Caliph, that didn't happen until after the founding of the republic of Turkey. The jannissaries became a political group just after the laws for them were changed and the position of janissary became inheritable and when they started accepting Muslim children as well.

[@jcampbell6822]

Especially, when those that were kidnapped, sent to a foreign country, circumcised, military trained and converted forcefully, must of looked back on their life unhappily, with certain hate and dislike over their authoritarian decorators. Their must of been a lot who were extremely unpatriotic.

[@hakanbaybars4435]

Janissaries were a small part of the Ottoman army and there were Muslim-born janissaries too.

[@eedragonr6293]

Janissary or not let us see when the Ottomans begun to lose their conquered territories.

[@nimre83]

4:42 First selfie in history! ;)

[@savannahshane2231]

Magnificent Century is a great show based on Suleiman the Magnificent and Haseki Hurrem Sultan, his wife and Queen of the empire. Great stuff, very interesting. EDIT: Suleiman didn't have his son strangled in the street. He was strangled in his father's war tent after rumours spread leading Suleiman to believe his son was going to rebel after disguising his movements as going to support Suleiman in the war. Learn your history right.

[@devoe365]

There is also Magnificent Century: Kosem

[@belindahawkins4083]

Do u think the loyalist could have strangled the son without Sueliman knowing it be it on the street or in the war tent U seem to think that the street and the war tent is the problem His piece already said u were never to slay anyone of royal blood

[@afrahf9010]

@@devoe365 Kosem is much better than the Magnificent Century original. The acting is superb

[@devoe365]

@@afrahf9010 - I watch the first season of Magnificent Century on Netflix Canada when it was there. I found Magnificent Century: Kosem and the first night I stayed up all night reading.

[@savannahshane2231]

@@belindahawkins4083 Please do some research on history outside of the videos you see on YT. I don't have a problem with anything, I am just correcting the fact from the video? I was saying that Suleiman had his son killed in his war tent, after which Suleiman removed his Grand Vizier from his position due to ppl believing it was he that caused Suleiman to execute Mustafa.

[@parthasarathipanda4571]

Imagine viziers constantly training just in case :D

[@SB-129]

10:51 "My life's greatest honor was serving the Sultan as Vizier...But my life's greatest passion is and always will be track and field...."

[@КалоянЧ]

The quality of the video is great 👏 well done…

[@chuckwiseman3632]

What I find surprising is the lack of comments saying they wished they had a harem. I’m proud of you guys!

[@jnywd8450]

well, now that you mention it,,, 😇

[@olliefoxx7165]

I wish I had a harem. There. So tired of the perpetually offended censoring people.

[@YMe-hp7hi]

I bet the harem was mostly Armenian girls. Now I know why the Kardashians hate the turks.

[@neatneet1757]

Nobody wanted to State the obvious

[@SAMMYJR00777]

@@YMe-hp7hi nope most of them from outsider not armenian lol ottoman did not like hairy ladies hahahah u only wish lol

[@JohnDoe-cf8jz]

Psychopaths, much the same today in most places, just done differently somewhat.

[@barryirlandi4217]

By drone

[@r.a1301]

Wouldn't say psychopaths. They were smart, and had their reasons for doing these things. And easily those things are the reason the ottomans prospered for as long as they did

[@JohnDoe-cf8jz]

@@r.a1301 Psychos have their reasons also.

[@r.a1301]

@@JohnDoe-cf8jz then I guess every country was full of psychopaths pre 20th century. Very intellectual of you to judge politics from 500 years ago using your 21st century lens. I'm sure 300 years from now, me and you would be considered psychopaths

[@tedjones3955]

At 4:42, somebody's taking a selfie with the guy in blue. Time traveller?

[@tyasbank]

I am not sure if even the luxury or harem would be enough to be worth it. That you can't have a private moment as a Sultan seems torture to me. That even in your private moments there are still a dozen courtiers trying to gain your favor. It would drive me mad within a year.

[@attilaseyfullah8522]

3:17 Royal blood was not spilled as it was considered sacred in Turkish tradition. Also Suleiman was justified as Mustafa declared his Sultanate.

[@malicant123]

"Those Turks are a bit extreme!" - Vlad III of Wallacia

[@Mr_and_Mrs_M.M]

irony of fate, isn't it..?

[@waynegray675]

This is why my countrymen call traditional Islam barbarous

[@waynegray675]

@Joond Al Akhdam Yamani I don't consider kkk Christian either, but come on!!! There's some pretty messed up stuff going on there!!!

[@waynegray675]

@Joond Al Akhdam Yamani if you mean descended from horsemen nomads from the steppe, absolutely. But I always thought the mongols were from further east on the steppe than the Turkic horsemen. I'm all ears though if I'm wrong 🙂

[@asamanyworlds3772]

Kept slaves as breeders and they had killing of their brothers that's crazy

[@skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306]

Well, isnt it badass? Be honest

[@asamanyworlds3772]

Yup

[@asilaslapt1510]

@@skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306 lol all those girls were kidnapped and at end they don't even get their son

[@FriedPi-mc5yt]

No wonder Vlad The Impaler hated the Ottomans so deeply. He learned methods of cruelty from his years of being a hostage in the house of the Sultan.

[@belindahawkins4083]

He does the same brutality and worse and this u say He hates them!?!?

[@FriedPi-mc5yt]

@@belindahawkins4083 Yes, Vlad hated the Ottomans. He learned how to be cruel and brutal from them.

[@EZ-viewing.]

Your process of 'logical thinking' is deeply disturbing. I hope you never pass on your disturbing genes onto your offspring.

[@godofchaoskhorne5043]

Yeah no. He likely never had a hard day in his life in the Ottoman court. Neither did his brother Radu. He hated his bother and the sultan because they wouldn't play with him and didn't like him. The video is largely bullshit BTW

[@FriedPi-mc5yt]

@@EZ-viewing. Too late.

[@AngryNegativeHistoryProject]

instead of commenting on the topic at hand, people want to make comparisons to hopefully distract the person watching this

[@asgarthukumdarbeyab7100]

I guess you didn't hear Fatih sultan mehmedin su sözünün "My brother's life, or the lives of thousands of people who will die in the fight for the throne "

[@angelojones4330]

Only history written by Ottomans would portray them as great.

[@wrpg9955]

You can say that about every Empire/Nation ever

[@angelojones4330]

@@wrpg9955 Some more than others but yeah, totally agree.

[@SAMMYJR00777]

@@angelojones4330 man grow up facts are facts... lol

[@angelojones4330]

@@SAMMYJR00777 They sure are, if you're not a fanboy you see them clearly.

[@mariakelly1059]

I've been watching a Turkish tv series about Sulieman the Magnificent, called Magnificent Century on KZbin. It's very good.

[@barryirlandi4217]

It's fun.. But not very correct

[@asilaslapt1510]

Ya but many thing are not historical eg: mahidevran didn't kill mehmet he died of small pox. I also sujjest u to watch kosem episode she was the most powerful women

[@barryirlandi4217]

@Kuvvet karazehir yah about 5% historical accurate

[@mariakelly1059]

@@asilaslapt1510 Everytime Mahidevran appeared onscreen I always got this urge to give her a couple of Xanax.

[@barryirlandi4217]

@Kuvvet karazehir ok.. The main bones of the story are true.. The rest is pure fantasy

[@laszlosipos1982]

And you wonder why Hungarians don't like Muslims

[@ashchan0504]

And you wonder why the Indians don't like the muslims

[@riskey6788]

damZ alll your video are so amazing ❤️

[@KS-bq4rs]

great video thanks

[@ashleyburns6752]

Britain did bad stuff, America did bad stuff, but it seems anything bad not done by Anglos is completely ignored.

[@RPlavo]

Western Europe let the Croats, Serbs, Hungarians etc to fight them off for the most part

[@JoJo-wd3dq]

You forgetting ALBANIANS, Europeans called it the WALL OF CHRISTIANITY, they had to face Ottoman army’s even though ALBANIANS were outnumbered 10/1 , OUR NATIONAL HERO IS GJERGJ KASTRIOTI SKENDERBEG.

[@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367]

serbia fought on the side of the ottomans in most of the wars

[@JoJo-wd3dq]

Manchagojohnson Manchago Yes I’m glad you are well informed about it. They are still kissing Erdogan ass.

[@МирославГлигорић]

@@JoJo-wd3dq You kissing asses of every conquer in history of the world.

[@МирославГлигорић]

@@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 We fight on the side of Ottomans in battle of Nicopolis because the crusaders were killing the Orthodox christians. Research the battle of Kosovo 1389, in that battle the Ottoman sultan was killed.

[@J3diMindTrix]

4:43 ! Dude with the sword is taking a selfie! Fr!

[@TuAFFalcon]

Time Traveler!

[@YMe-hp7hi]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kingswood9064]

As a Romanian, I surely did love the good old days when Vlad was still around. Such fun times.

[@Antaquelas]

Vlad was killed by Ottomans and his head was on display in Constantinapole. He didn't have much fun :D

[@kingswood9064]

@@Antaquelas Are you braindead? He wasn't killed by the Ottomans, but by Matthias Corvinus. The King of Hungary.

[@kingswood9064]

Not to mention the fact that he killed thousands of Ottomemes who came to invade his lands. I say good job to that.

[@Antaquelas]

@@kingswood9064 LMAOOO! You don't even know your own history. Go read wikipedia. Vlad was killed in battle while fighting Ottomans. His army was destroyed and Wallachia (Romania) was captured by Ottomans. He was a loser.

[@kingswood9064]

@@Antaquelas Ok kiddo, go look up Vlad Tepes because you are making yourself legitimately look like a dumbahh.

[@AntonNb]

From what I understood the killing is to prevent civil wars in the future, civil war can weakened a government...brutal but effective

[@anthonyburke5656]

I guess it depends where you are or we’re on the Totem Pole in the Ottoman Empire, the view was pretty good from the top and OK to a lesser extent as you descended, until you were 4 or 5 layers from the bottom, then you had no rights, were subject to the whims of those above you, were taxed when those above you were not, had extra tax if you were a non-Moslem, had no right of redress or access to a court, were, at the lowest levels, subject to instant death on the whim of those above.

[@ThorsMartell]

Considering that the Ottoman political system was - on various levels, not just inside the palace - based on infighting, and at the same time unable to make reforms and adapt to changes... And the empire was mostly ruled by people completely disconnected from the real world... It is very surprising the Ottoman Empire survived that long and got so big. It's probably cuz their adversaries weren't much better either. The entire world was instable feudal systems back then.

[@keerf255]

The ottomans survived as long as they did because European kings never got their head out of their ass and outright abandoned greater Christian goals after the wars of reformation.

[@ZetaEntity101]

The past sometimes can sometimes be really dark

[@kyleyoung5063]

Nope, there is no sometimes about it. It was all dark.

[@Rubix1982]

Just imagine how the people in the future see how we live now.

[@undertoe3619]

Makes you wonder if that's how our world will be viewed in a thousand years...IF we last that long....

[@chuckrobinson599]

And if it were Christians, you'd be screaming bloody murder about how organized religion caused wars, was responsible for slavery, and was evil to it's core. You people are so easily manipulated.

[@Rubix1982]

@@chuckrobinson599 define you people?

[@oneproudbrowncoat]

This completely glosses over the use of rape in the blood tax.

[@alpcan3264]

Never trusted gardeners, now i know why

[@AnthonyWilliams-ew3wp]

Their power peaked in the C16th, not later.

[@historicus463]

Lmao is this a joke ? Ottoman was on its peak in 1650-1700 and after 1700 they were still strong . They defeated Napoleon in 1799-1800 3 times …

[@AnthonyWilliams-ew3wp]

@@historicus463 the empire was in terminal decline following their failed attempt on Vienna. Even Lawrence with a band of nomads slaughtered them with ease in WWI. Corruption, nepotism and sodomy dictated their fate.

[@historicus463]

@@AnthonyWilliams-ew3wp losing a battle doesn’t destroy the empire . + they were winning the battle but later Polish hussars attacked from behind and yh…

[@historicus463]

@@AnthonyWilliams-ew3wp and 16 th century is 1501-1600 I think you didn’t know this

[@die1mayer]

@@AnthonyWilliams-ew3wp Lawrence and his british allies only succeeded in instigating the arab revolt because he lied to the arabs, promising arab independence (Britain and France would later turn them into colonies). WW1 was also the time when the Ottomans slaughtered the British Empire at Gallipoli because the british were intoxicated with a false sense of superiority.

[@apemoon1731]

It interesting how people who bleat about how awful the British Empire was seem to ignore the Ottomans. I wonder why that might be? 🤔

[@rudi8192]

Wolves complain like sheeps when in danger.

[@markusfreund6961]

Here's an explanation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpC0oaxmor2abrs

[@russpaxman3660]

Criticism of the British empire is acceptable because the British were white. Criticism of the muslim Ottoman Empire would be unacceptably racist and islamophopic. Bonkers !

[@skullsforerlikkhansthrone9306]

@@markusfreund6961 Apart from some proOttoman Turks and Pakistanis, I've rarely come across anyone in favor of Ottomans (arabs, persians or other "muslims" quite contrary to what you try to portray with standardised euro-parrotisms)

[@ryansmith8345]

Dude are you honestly defending the British empire ? How screwed up must a person be to do that honestly ? Ottomans sucked, but they were not equal to the British empire in terms of committing atrocities !!!

[@aquamasca]

As a history teacher ... this video is full of mistakes and fabrications

[@Mansurawi1250]

How so?

[@batuhantuncdemir5384]

What is the source for Hacı Salih Paşa winning the death race and being pardoned? I couldn't find any written account about him. And the pictures, where did you find them please? They are normally pictures of Salih Hulusi Paşa, one of the last ministers of the Ottoman Empire who was cast aside and became an unimportant figure as the Anatolian resistance led by M. Kemal won the war of independence.

[@ahn00bus510]

I love this channel

[@taniyapaul8486]

The harem paintings are so so beautiful and....imaginary 😌

[@kedicavit2974]

People who drew harem paintings never saw harem

[@Ceylin_Kurtbogan]

As a Turk I really loved the accuracy of the information but I cried a little everytime you mispronounced something Turkish :') Kafes (cage) is pronounced more like: “cough-esse”. Also “s” letter is not the plural form in Turkish so singular form of kafes is not kafe :DD Kafe means Cafe in Turkish.

[@marloskeiro227]

Same in Arabic qafes means cage

[@seyitahmetozturk5458]

@@marloskeiro227 thera are so many word which is same with arabic un turkish

[@seyitahmetozturk5458]

@卐 when he pronounced the words wrong

[@Ceylin_Kurtbogan]

@卐 It is a joke, as in his pronounciation was really really bad but I don’t want to be an asshole about it either :))

[@KadirAksu28]

All of the creepy things here were pretty common tactics used by various ancient empires.

[@asilaslapt1510]

Rest of empires were more peaceful than this that time.europe had succession laws and also treatment of women were better

[@KadirAksu28]

@@asilaslapt1510 You clearly have no clue about Europe's savagery during the middle ages. People would try to buy their way into the heaven.

[@SAMMYJR00777]

@@asilaslapt1510 WRONG ALL WERE SAME BS LOL

[@TonyFontaine1988]

Found the Turk. Can you please go back to the Steppe and get off of stolen land from the Romans and Greeks!

[@KadirAksu28]

@@TonyFontaine1988 How are Romans native to Anatolia, Didn't the Greeks take Anatolia from Indigenous populations of Anatolia as well? They should get the lands then.

[@Zaun999Getsu]

My humility has grown 4 fold since listening to nutty history's subject matter. Bravo i say.

[@ДанилоКомненић]

so many Serbians were taken due to blood tax. even one of them became a high vezir, Mehmet Pasa Sokolovic

[@northman8845]

Timur's empire fell because he gave 4 areas to his sons. After his death, the whole Empire fall because the siblings couldn’t see eye to eye. it was the end of the great Empire. This happened with the Seljuk Empire to. Also the Sons of Sultan Bayezid almost lost the Ottoman Empire. When MEHMED's fader Sultan Murat II died. Byzantine emperor Constantine Xl wanted to put Orhan on the throne. Because Orhan was Murat's nephew who lived in Constantinople waiting for his uncle to die, and then took the throne from Mehmed2. But Mehmed came first. They tried to remove him from the throne and appoint their own men(Orhan). Even Mehmed had the right to inherit the throne. That is why he makes these laws. He didn’t like it, but it was necessary. This is a very instructive video, but there are some inaccuracies. and a little exaggerated. Some Christian families gave their Child voluntarily, so de can have better life in Instanbul. Because in the Ottoman Empire were good schools and from a slave you could become someone great. 90% off theirs Vezir was ex slaves. Empire with possibilities.

[@asilaslapt1510]

Cruelity of british empire is nothing compared to that of ottoman

[@haideraliibnakhlaq8823]

🤣🤣🤣 really, the cruelty of the British empire is truly unprecedented in history

[@ilikebutter942]

Surprised the Köçekler and Tavşan Oğlani weren't mentioned. They were also young boys aged 7-8 taken from Christian nations and made into dancing prostitutes. They were trained for about 6 years to sing/dance/play instruments and when they were ready, the boys would perform dances while cross-dressed in female clothing for adult mens' entertainment during festivities and celebrations. After their performances, they would be used for the mens' sexual pleasures. The practice was banned because of Ottoman modernization and because men kept fighting over the boys (which one got to rape/molest the boys, keep them, etc.). Both Köçekler and Tavşan Oğlani were widespread from the 15th-19th century and almost every tavern, coffeehouse, bathhouse, etc. employed them.

[@searaider3340]

Btw they didn't spill the blood of their siblings and didn't throw them on streets. Yes, they did kill them by strangling but at least they gave them a proper burial.