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Good Areas with Jarrod Kimber

Good Areas with Jarrod Kimber

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@menschmendax1378
@menschmendax1378 3 жыл бұрын
Truly unique cricket insights Jarrod. Not many people can speak with authority and an outside perspective like you do. Keep up the good work
@SanamPMH
@SanamPMH 3 жыл бұрын
"If Kohli is not getting paid to play in this big series....If we can't look after Kohli , the biggest star of this game, how are we running cricket at all.?" Well said Jarrod 👏
@TheBat3825
@TheBat3825 Жыл бұрын
It Failed Pakistan only, Cricket is shining
@normalhuman6260
@normalhuman6260 3 жыл бұрын
This is a banger of a video. It's easy to demonize a board or country. But the fact that there is this weird system which has been around for centuries and every cricket body is just kindof working inside those unwritten rules is pretty insightful.
@smitmahajani7663
@smitmahajani7663 3 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video. Right up there amongst your best. Brilliant analysis!
@pjagasia
@pjagasia 3 жыл бұрын
So true! I remember wondering about this growing up and not understanding the sense. Thank you for making this :)
@jackevnorman
@jackevnorman 3 жыл бұрын
At least in England, Cricket is ran by the kind of people who think it is acceptable to fire a lot of staff to save costs, then give themselves a 2million quid bonus. I doubt that any reforms that might be considered by the same people will be about global economic justice or sustainability.
@_ilearn
@_ilearn 3 жыл бұрын
Basically you explained the 'principal-agent problem' without mentioning it once. Cool stuff.
@forsanityandreason5356
@forsanityandreason5356 3 жыл бұрын
/r/iamverysmart
@zacattack5243
@zacattack5243 3 жыл бұрын
I love this idea, but in the Pakistan case surely safety is paramount? NZ being penalised for not wanting to be bombed is not a great idea in the long run. The presidential level of security has been breached before, NZ has had their hotel bombed. Not sure why all the focus is saying 'poor Pakistan', but it wasn't exactly fun for anyone involved.
@geoffreypage9904
@geoffreypage9904 3 жыл бұрын
All the talk about the presidential security is missing the point. I imagine the security is very good. It isn't about the NZ team being hurt in an attack. It is about the security guards and regular people getting hurt in an attempted attack on the NZ team.
@CD-123
@CD-123 3 жыл бұрын
Right
@muadafzal1328
@muadafzal1328 3 жыл бұрын
Security is paramount and always will be but the handling of the situation by NZC has been poor to say the least. Maybe it's just another counter against the threat, but an official statement by the board stated that the specific nature of the threat would't be shared with any Pakistani officials publicly or privately. Even a minimal threat can justify you abandoning the tour but not sharing the details to counteract the threat and find out how legitimate it was is mind boggling.
@zacattack5243
@zacattack5243 3 жыл бұрын
@@muadafzal1328 Pretty standard you don't share the nature of the threat until the team is out safe. Think of it from the kiwi side, all of a sudden cricket seems pretty unimportant when the lives of your team are in danger. The series can always be replayed, and I'm sure the Black Caps are just as gutted not to play as Pakistan is
@nikkkhilkumar3269
@nikkkhilkumar3269 3 жыл бұрын
@@muadafzal1328 Do you see any other countries where so many arm men and vehicle carrying sport team to stadium, no. Because they don't need to, pakistan have to because there are threats.
@mandar9121
@mandar9121 3 жыл бұрын
Wow.. truely enlightened about some of the basic stuff today.. watching cricket for last 25 years... Bt watching and listening this really was a learning. Balanced analysis
@mukundvashishth3140
@mukundvashishth3140 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video but I feel Pakistan's instance is special. In this instance it's more about world politics I suppose. Any popular sport can never stay isolated from politics, I wish this hadn't been the case.
@roosterskipper5979
@roosterskipper5979 3 жыл бұрын
which sucks really and is a grave violation of ICC code of conduct, indulging of politics got SA banned so can be said about ECB
@areez22
@areez22 3 жыл бұрын
@Ayush Sinh Why?
@deltapizza5154
@deltapizza5154 3 жыл бұрын
This what need of an hour ….people talking about the economics of cricket…..and don’t get me wrong …I would love Jarrod’s take on how bcci and this economy of “Indian cricket” is affecting Indian and other cricket playing nations .
@Michael.8650
@Michael.8650 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the honest assessment it so rare to see now a days.
@remembertochangename3557
@remembertochangename3557 3 жыл бұрын
We live in an austerity cost cutting world where systems are setup to funnel money upwards to specific people who paid to structure things this way. This video is about how cricket would be in Star Trek. Would be more realistic to plan for cricket in Blade Runner.
@nsn5564
@nsn5564 3 жыл бұрын
Depressingly cynical. Reality needs to change. We tolerate far too much abuse and exploitation.
@chinmey_0147
@chinmey_0147 3 жыл бұрын
I think the concern with independent leagues is that when a nation like india brings 70-80% of money in cricket how can they be paid equal to others ?
@barryokeeffe4115
@barryokeeffe4115 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review I always thought that the the sides touring England get a share of the income A bit like a div2 team drawing Man U away in the FA Cup 3rd round, in that it will cover their costs for a year or so
@eyecontrol4900
@eyecontrol4900 3 жыл бұрын
great video! that helps explain why Aus and ECB have no problem cancelling tours of smaller nations like Bangladesh and SA, but are so desperate to have other teams tour them. I understand now why Aus wanted to get India here for the 2020 series, even though they just played a series 2yrs prior. What I dont get is why countries like NZ lose money on test series, even if they are hosting? makes sense now why they only hold 2 test series most of the time, yet shove in 5 t20 series constantly.
@areez22
@areez22 3 жыл бұрын
Why do NZ lose money hosting tests?
@eyecontrol4900
@eyecontrol4900 3 жыл бұрын
@@areez22 they do. ive heard it many times, but never found out why. Look how many times they play 2-test series at home. When was last time kiwis played a 4 or 5 test series?
@areez22
@areez22 3 жыл бұрын
@@eyecontrol4900 That's true, but I don't know the reason behind it.
@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810
@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810 3 жыл бұрын
@@areez22 I suspect it's crowd numbers. They just aren't large enough in NZ to cover all costs. Spread out an already small crowd, over 5 days, with only 1 or 0 result, for tests. Compared to say, 5 reasonable sized crowds, with 5 results, for T20. Along with advertisers. advertiser's aren't willing to pay large sums if their products won't be seen by large numbers. By the time you figure in paying players, ground operation costs, touring team costs, etc. the money to cover all that isn't recouped by low crowds and small advertising fees. Also tv rights deals.
@areez22
@areez22 2 жыл бұрын
@@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810 Thanks for the in-depth answer!
@motabillakabaap
@motabillakabaap 3 жыл бұрын
What I am seeing is all the boards at each other throat. That is really bad for cricket in general.
@Zany_Phil
@Zany_Phil 3 жыл бұрын
Basically , what you are saying is the money making boards should give up heir revenues for those which are unable to have a revenue stream....too idealistic! And I don't think for second that any Board( or for that matter any citizen) from the Anglosphere would even think about this issue had they not come across a loss which England incurred recently.
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
No. What I’m saying is everyone could make more money by selling it in one rights package. Including the richer teams. And a streaming service would make even more money for everyone.
@jatinkumar7287
@jatinkumar7287 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking same, like indian would never be happy with sharing their revenue with pakistan and moreover the one at the top like BCCI has nothing to gain only to lose if this situation happened.
@pz4934
@pz4934 3 жыл бұрын
How about have a wtc league where everyone plays the same no. of matches and series, and same for t20 and odi. All under ICC. Top team from those leagues are the winners and the top teams possibly, again if possible, play or qualify for the world cups every 4 years in odi, and t20. no hand shakes. Only ICC makes the rules and everyone players against each other. Including Eng, Aus and Ind playing against Ban, Ire and Afg and Zim. Ofc have a managable number of games to not tire out the players.
@AwesomeHatMan
@AwesomeHatMan 3 жыл бұрын
In New Zealand two different tv companies own half of the Black Caps rights each. One includes other sport and is waaay overpriced. The other is reasonable price but just cricket - and doesn't even have all the Cricket... Honestly one thing which had all the international rights would be fantastic... Especially if they did a financial deal with BCCI to add the IPL rights too
@adipurush2
@adipurush2 3 жыл бұрын
@@pz4934 Good plan theoretically. But leave about equity, even the present money making teams/boards would not make money to share.
@FLASK904
@FLASK904 3 жыл бұрын
Meh Pakistan is a victim of geo politics and shitting in their own backyard. I agree with your thesis that a stronger governing body will do well for cricket as a sport, however this Pakistan incident has nothing to do with that. Normally politics wont effect the world of sports, but this has never been true in reality, and unfortunately Pakistan is the odd man out in the political world, and thus their cricket is also paying the price for it. And the days of creating a strong central body was in the 90s before the advent of the 20/20 format. IPL has changed the money game, and none of the big boards will accept wrenching money away from them.
@AwesomeHatMan
@AwesomeHatMan 3 жыл бұрын
My dream is each of the top 9 nations tour eachother once home and away every 4 years (and each of those tours has all 3 formats). Make World Test Championship 4-yearly too. Every tour would have meaning and be something special. They'd be no complaining about who has an easier schedule in the WTC either
@shreyanshpranshuchauhan5991
@shreyanshpranshuchauhan5991 3 жыл бұрын
Pakistan and India are not going to play each other in a series. That is a guarantee
@AwesomeHatMan
@AwesomeHatMan 3 жыл бұрын
@@shreyanshpranshuchauhan5991 whoever says no can forfeit the points :P
@shreyanshpranshuchauhan5991
@shreyanshpranshuchauhan5991 3 жыл бұрын
@@AwesomeHatMan the teams won't say no. The home ministry is not going to allow it.
@nsn5564
@nsn5564 3 жыл бұрын
If Pakistan and India refuse to play, they should both be docked those points and revenue. They have a choice. There must be consequences for govt policy.
@shreyanshpranshuchauhan5991
@shreyanshpranshuchauhan5991 3 жыл бұрын
@@nsn5564 why should the teams suffer because of government policies which in case of sports and arts are based on political innuendos rather than national interest. I don't know what rules are there in your country but here if you don't follow what the government is saying particularly if you are a high profiled celebrity there will be consequences. Not direct but indirect
@AatifNawaz
@AatifNawaz 3 жыл бұрын
Just brilliant Jarrod 👏 👌
@scientificideas8000
@scientificideas8000 3 жыл бұрын
When you really look at it, Pakistan has had to host home games of Football World Cup qualifiers as well as Davies Cup Home games outside of Pakistan , very recently... So it is a cricket problem, but part of this specific thing is also a Pakistan problem.. No matter how much want to ignore it..
@maaztv7561
@maaztv7561 3 жыл бұрын
England high commissioner gave green signal to ECB to tour Pakistan. And the threat was not credible since New Zealand embassy themselves have not change travel advisories. ECB high commissioner to Pakistan clearly stated that it was solely ECB decision based on bubble fatigue not security. And u can see ECB press release, there was no mention of security.
@scientificideas8000
@scientificideas8000 3 жыл бұрын
@@maaztv7561 I am not an expert on these subjects really... I just stated couple of facts
@scientificideas8000
@scientificideas8000 3 жыл бұрын
@@maaztv7561 also I am not sure that's how West really works... The British High Commission's job is to maintain British Soft power in Pakistan and they will go as far as possible to do that even if it means they have to openly criticize ECB which is not part of the UK govt unlike how things are run in Pakistan where the PM also runs the Cricket board..... It's not easy to deal with the West for countries with no leverage in geopolitics and in this case Cricket Politics
@maaztv7561
@maaztv7561 3 жыл бұрын
@@scientificideas8000 As far as Football game is concerned it is not true, Pakistan was not meant to host anything recently. While Pakistan Davis cup tie all happened in Pakistan except for India match due to political concerns.
@scientificideas8000
@scientificideas8000 3 жыл бұрын
@@maaztv7561 You are clearly not aware of the Matches against Cambodia then in the 2022 World Cup qualifiers.....
@VijayThakurMD
@VijayThakurMD 3 жыл бұрын
What we as fan of sports can do to change it for benefit of players, convenience of fans and spread of our game?
@Dan-vs9tu
@Dan-vs9tu 3 жыл бұрын
Stop fighting with each other and tell the authorities that be we have had enough. Cricket is something both Indians and Pakistanis love in what world does a mutual love for something divide people? It’s only dividing us because it’s stenches of political point scoring and I blame both us Pakistanis and Indianas governments for using the sentiments and passions of our people to get votes. If Pakistan and Indian played bilateral series England would be irrelevant that wouldn’t have a bucket to piss I’m sorry for the harsh words.
@areez22
@areez22 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dan-vs9tu I agree!
@asimghatak2155
@asimghatak2155 3 жыл бұрын
Cricket will not get popular by this way. Players will choose other sports where they get more money and there will be only few good team that will remain as a competitive teams. We are already witnessing this. Test match against Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe are just one sided. They don't get enough money to prioritise Test cricket.
@avsg2427
@avsg2427 3 жыл бұрын
That argument does not seem to hold any water in case of Bangladesh or Sri Lanka. Cricket is still their most popular sport and they have not noticed any exodus of players to other sports. Just because their national team is in shambles does not mean it is because of pressure from other sports. In Zimbabwe football is probably more popular but the cause of it’s cricket teams decline has got to do with the country’s internal political strife than anything else.
@asimghatak2155
@asimghatak2155 3 жыл бұрын
@@avsg2427 Politics does have a role but I have watched the India vs Bangladesh test match and it was really not competitive. so were the Sri Lanka vs Eng Test series.
@avsg2427
@avsg2427 3 жыл бұрын
@@asimghatak2155 Don’t disagree with the fact that those series were one-sided. You mentioned that the reason that those were so was because of exodus of players from cricket to other sports - that assertion seems unfounded.
@asimghatak2155
@asimghatak2155 3 жыл бұрын
@@avsg2427 I wanted to say that the young players that are trying to break into international cricket in these countries, will start to look somewhere else if they get less money than the other games and so there will be less good players available for their team to compete at the highest level.
@akbarshahzad5780
@akbarshahzad5780 3 жыл бұрын
I did not think, from the title, and from what's been going on of late, that this would be my favorite video of yours. But it is. Thanks, Jarrod.
@GK-ui8fv
@GK-ui8fv 3 жыл бұрын
You are a thinker and reformer. I like your thoughts while i am Indian and any reforms will be a losing proposition for India as it makes the most money and that money will go to every one.
@nsn5564
@nsn5564 3 жыл бұрын
Really incisive and thougtful. Excellent and should be heard by all who love cricket.
@smtuladhar6286
@smtuladhar6286 3 жыл бұрын
What a insight . Well done
@missallsunday5417
@missallsunday5417 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if the NZ incident was credible. But the ECB shouldn't have cited "mental fatigue" to refuse to tour Pakistan, after what they did during the fifth match. (Which I think was still wrong on India's part) It's a bad look, and emblematic of what the big boards have been doing to smaller countries for the longest time. I remember when in the 90s, Australia only toured India about once or twice.
@himelsarkar5892
@himelsarkar5892 3 жыл бұрын
So important and true. I completely concur to your point about a test league, ODI league, and T20I league. The bilateral series method makes no sense. It incentivizes resource assymetry.
@psurya3053
@psurya3053 3 жыл бұрын
yes sir , you are right. i dont know icc is following this outdated bilateral method.
@DrDothraki
@DrDothraki 3 жыл бұрын
But when different boards contribute differently it makes no sense. Not many are going to watch India tour Srilanka anymore when the quality of cricket isn't the highest, lack of excitement and lack of crowds in the stadium. Why play Srilanka when India can make more playing Australia? After it's also business. And I haven't even started about all these political dynamics between different countries.
@himelsarkar5892
@himelsarkar5892 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrDothraki It's not a sustainable business in the long term. Eventually the resource assymetry is going to give rise to weaker and weaker teams. The home audience of the weaker teams are going to lose interest and move on to other sports. Cricket will be the loser.
@adipurush2
@adipurush2 3 жыл бұрын
@@himelsarkar5892 You're right. But it's not that India is in a great place to do the full sacrifice. After all, India is a country with huge population. It needs to encourage the game domestically first for any kind of sustainability. India cannot do the equal piecemeal distribution.
@sambhavraichand2601
@sambhavraichand2601 3 жыл бұрын
@@himelsarkar5892 no one gives a damn about cricket...they are here to make money
@royaldong3684
@royaldong3684 3 жыл бұрын
Now, This is a Good Video... Good Job, Kimber
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
They’re all good videos. You just like some more.
@pz4934
@pz4934 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT true
@mukul8239
@mukul8239 3 жыл бұрын
So, newzeland and england pulled out of pak tour because they were not getting paid enough? And that security threat was fake ig. Do you want them to still play despite of intelligence report of possible security threat after what happened to sri lanka team?
@nishagovil9207
@nishagovil9207 3 жыл бұрын
Nz pulled out due to security threat but British high commission has confirmed that they have cleared eng to go, it's ECB's decision. And also he is saying that if for some reason you don't want to tour a particular place then the council will make sure that the one which refused to tour loses money and also make efforts to organise series on a neutral venue.
@mukul8239
@mukul8239 3 жыл бұрын
@@nishagovil9207 ik but he never emphasised the security threat part and was mostly leaning on the monetary aspect of things. Seems pretty biased to me.
@suviram.1901
@suviram.1901 3 жыл бұрын
@@mukul8239 still making a valid point... He didn't really focus on Pakistan but on the system as a whole.. If this continues then the quality of cricket in smaller countries is gonna worsen
@mukul8239
@mukul8239 3 жыл бұрын
@@suviram.1901 and why was he saying that pak was a victim here? I get that smaller countries suffer because of inability of governing bodies in forming a system that benefits both the host and guest teams. But in this particular case saying a state like pak who is openly supp taliban's regime is a victim because newzeland is greedy is dilusional thinking. I agree with the rest of his point but pak is suffering because of their faults and their is no need to drag and blame newzeland in all this.
@suviram.1901
@suviram.1901 3 жыл бұрын
@@mukul8239 pakistani cricket was the victim here ...why are u shifting it to taliban Nobody is denying it here
@docsherlock3464
@docsherlock3464 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most beautiful and unique insight towards modern day cricket politics and pay. I am glad I came across your channel this Jan👍
@raulasharma
@raulasharma 3 жыл бұрын
Great content and a unique perspective on the situation
@nidhishnanavati3544
@nidhishnanavati3544 3 жыл бұрын
Jarrod, you are a legend,you should open your statistics company
@nikkkhilkumar3269
@nikkkhilkumar3269 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, but the fact that u need presidential security to play cricket in pakistan says a lot. I guess ecb did the right thing.. Caring about mental health of their players. Pcb should've resechduled it in uae but it's now politics in pakistan
@muadafzal1328
@muadafzal1328 3 жыл бұрын
Surely has to work both ways though. ECB want to take compensation when India left due to the possibilities of a covid outbreak affecting the squad, creating mental health issues and bubble fatigue. But then without the security stance changing they decide to cancel the Pakistan tour citing fatigue. Similarly, this was going to be one of the biggest tours for Pakistan women. Recently world cricket boards rightfully called out Afghanistan for removing their women's team and said they would refuse to play them but ECB used their mens squad fatigue issue to outright cancel the women's tour as well.
@nikkkhilkumar3269
@nikkkhilkumar3269 3 жыл бұрын
@@muadafzal1328 hey having 15 men around u with nukes all the time protecting u is harder than hard covid protocols.. English womens team have a tough schedule too. Ecb cancelling the tour was obvious, they're thinking of cancelling ashes cuz of tough quarentine in australia, how would they've allowed their players to tour pakistan? only chance pak vs eng could've gone is at the UAE but sad this is matter of politics out there.
@ssidharth5854
@ssidharth5854 3 жыл бұрын
These mfs have gone through the same security and bubbles for the PSL. Money always scream louder than mental health. Also what's the excuse behind cancelling the women's tour? 15 players are not available to be picked? That's bs.
@nikkkhilkumar3269
@nikkkhilkumar3269 3 жыл бұрын
@@ssidharth5854 what if your national agencies and goverment says there's threat in touring pakistan(as in case of Nz), should they tour?? No mf should be daring to die for cricket. Security is only reason, don't forget the 5 eyes include uk & nz!!!
@roosterskipper5979
@roosterskipper5979 3 жыл бұрын
Mate, You are Indian your opinion about Pakistan doesn't matter
@madgeepar
@madgeepar 3 жыл бұрын
Do I sense a sequel to Death of a gentleman?
@Lathi33
@Lathi33 3 жыл бұрын
I like pakistan cricket, they make the game more interesting by their unpredkctability and raw talent. But they just cannot untie the sports with politics. The fact that you need Presidential level security for the players for a game to happen just tells you it's not a safe country to go to.. On top of that they are behind the taliban, which effectively killed sports in afganistan, so like many people said, you reap what you sow.
@PAKCRICFAN1
@PAKCRICFAN1 3 жыл бұрын
Lol the usa created the tailban....
@nikkkhilkumar3269
@nikkkhilkumar3269 3 жыл бұрын
@@PAKCRICFAN1 Pakistan now clearly supporting them
@sudars7664
@sudars7664 3 жыл бұрын
BCCI is the richest sports board, but it is important to save the lives than money. Everything cannot be equated with money. It is important to get insurance due to unexpected virus attacks in UK.
@arsalmunir8643
@arsalmunir8643 3 жыл бұрын
woww.... great review
@jayjoshi4607
@jayjoshi4607 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!!
@JD-to9pr
@JD-to9pr 3 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video on the long term issues that cricket has created however the elephant in the room is a problem created by Pakistan themselves by supporting wahabi radicalization and terrorism. Even if there was a league structure, no one would want to tour there under threats of terrorist attacks. Its incredible really that Pakistan is even allowed to play international cricket despite their own politicians including Imran Khan no less calling OBL a martyr, supporting, training and providing safe haven for Taliban and other terrorist orgs.
@PAKCRICFAN1
@PAKCRICFAN1 3 жыл бұрын
Indian support rss which is a terrorist organisation according to Chatham house
@suviram.1901
@suviram.1901 3 жыл бұрын
@@PAKCRICFAN1 the what fucking house
@JD-to9pr
@JD-to9pr 3 жыл бұрын
@@PAKCRICFAN1 Modi and rss will be voted out of power. What will you do when taliban comes for you? Ask them nicely to hold elections? Pak should be ashamed for supporting and providing safe haven for OBL and taliban. Dummy.
@amitsinghdhek2261
@amitsinghdhek2261 3 жыл бұрын
@@PAKCRICFAN1 how many terrorist attacks have been done by RSS?
@PAKCRICFAN1
@PAKCRICFAN1 3 жыл бұрын
@@suviram.1901 EU human rights organisation
@giriprasadkotte9876
@giriprasadkotte9876 3 жыл бұрын
Can't blame people for avoiding near certain death and definitely certain terror attack.
@krodh9946
@krodh9946 3 жыл бұрын
Considering this channel is all about cricket.....the line at 6:56 about the "strike" confused me for a few seconds!
@mohsinhassan2982
@mohsinhassan2982 3 жыл бұрын
This is so amazing.
@abhijeet1in
@abhijeet1in 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very thoughtful video essay. You talked about haphazard & inefficient structure of world cricket (organization, telecast, player remuneration, ...) but unfortunate to see that some in the comment section have the completely wrong take.
@therightgame3
@therightgame3 3 жыл бұрын
Pakistan deserve what they get because of their support of Taliban. No sport is bigger than lives of millions of Afghan women
@weirdverma
@weirdverma 3 жыл бұрын
Pakistan not getting International cricket has much to do with their own fault too. It's something that escapes the bubble of Cricket and enters Global diplomacy.
@Ijaz13
@Ijaz13 3 жыл бұрын
Is that an Imran Khan t-shirt I see there?
@RkSaha-gh5jv
@RkSaha-gh5jv 3 жыл бұрын
Hi jarrod can you do a video about of drop catches off specific bowlers in tests?
@yogamarga6743
@yogamarga6743 3 жыл бұрын
J.Srinath approves this request. Jarrod please go ahead.
@anomanderrake5434
@anomanderrake5434 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea but it's really hard to implement as of now. The Big 3 Boards will never agree to let go of their power. BCCI makes far more from selling it to Star Sports then they will from a common pool. But the revenue sharing does make sense and could be implemented within the bilateral aggrements. When Bangladesh tour India, they should be getting some 20%(?) of the revenue BCCI makes.
@adipurush2
@adipurush2 3 жыл бұрын
Then the problem would be that everyone would want to tour India and get their share, but when India tours other countries, our share of that 20% would be small and negligible. Share more and get nothing.
@anomanderrake5434
@anomanderrake5434 3 жыл бұрын
@@adipurush2 but BCCI is only able to make that money because Bangladesh or SL came. Without them there is no series. And some money going there way is not a bad thing. And also Ind will get lot more from touring England or Aus. Since share of 20% from England and AUS will also be higher.
@adipurush2
@adipurush2 3 жыл бұрын
@@anomanderrake5434 Actually that's a good idea and you are right. It'll incentivise the touring team. But anything above the band of 15-20% is not good a deal for us.
@dhawal7476
@dhawal7476 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone needs to watch this video!!! Please forward to every single cricket fan you know. Let's make them make things right...
@farleymarly2575
@farleymarly2575 3 жыл бұрын
What would be wierd if Sri Lanka Pakistan Bangladesh south Africa and the west indies go bankrupt and basically cricket dies. England India new Zealand Australia keep playing against themselves and having world cups against themselves, the fact is you can see that coming and see the other nations just playing in t20 leagues. Death of cricket is not if but when.
@davidfoster2629
@davidfoster2629 Жыл бұрын
This seems like the most realistic outcome from every comment on this video.
@yashjajodia2800
@yashjajodia2800 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to how much money bcci and Kohli would have lost if they would have played test 2 day later and by doing so leaving one week of IPL.
@anoopgec4818
@anoopgec4818 3 жыл бұрын
Why cant we have a simple system like the touring nation gets half of what hosting nation makes. So nobody cancels the series and players are paid a percentage of what each board makes
@AwesomeHatMan
@AwesomeHatMan 3 жыл бұрын
Heck even if it's just a 70/30 split it'd be a pretty reasonable system
@anoopgec4818
@anoopgec4818 3 жыл бұрын
May be not half but 35%. Or all tv rights for the broadcasting of the match in the touring nation should be with touring board. ( I thought it was set up like that like BCCI gets all the money for selling TV rights to sony sports for the match to be broadcasted in India. If all the money falls in the hands of ECB from both TV channels then the system is broken)
@adipurush2
@adipurush2 3 жыл бұрын
@@anoopgec4818 Then the problem would be that everyone would want to tour India and get their share, but when India tours other countries, our share of that 35% would be small and negligible. Share more and get nothing.
@HarshGautam
@HarshGautam 3 жыл бұрын
In an ideal world
@thileepkumars
@thileepkumars 3 жыл бұрын
wow jarrod amazing piece
@rajdeepdas1852
@rajdeepdas1852 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jarrod, can u make a video on the current indian women's odi team and their old school approach in the middle overs..loved this one
@rahulnuthakki123
@rahulnuthakki123 3 жыл бұрын
The middle order has to be conservative because the top order sucks. Jemi, Smriti and Harman have been horrendous for 2 years. I can't wait for Jarrod to point this out to India fans so that they can finally realise that without Mithali, India has no batting.
@rajdeepdas1852
@rajdeepdas1852 3 жыл бұрын
@@rahulnuthakki123 I have a different view on it..yes the top order is struggling at the moment but they score at a good clip which ensures that when they score big it makes an impact on the game..the overly conservative approach in the middle may look good as the runs are coming but these are runs to avoid a defeat by a larger margin rather than trying to win..I would prefer the team to be 150 all out looking to score big and going for the win and lose rather than scoring 210-220 and lose
@shikhargovil9579
@shikhargovil9579 3 жыл бұрын
@@rahulnuthakki123 even mithali's test batting in ODIs is of no use. she has to show more intent because she is facing more than 1/3rd of balls so she has the responsibility of getting most of the runs as well.
@sumanthhema
@sumanthhema 3 жыл бұрын
It's all good.. but the geo political situations changed recently effecting the tours.. which was considered safer during scheduling few months back..
@rajanraymond232
@rajanraymond232 3 жыл бұрын
Well that's inaccurate I think. Bcci makes money off the TV rights for foreign tours that it sold to Sony Sports network a few years back.
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
If you have a link, then drop it. But as far as I'm aware this has never happened. It's not how the system is set up.
@rajanraymond232
@rajanraymond232 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT My bad. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_broadcasting_contracts_in_India#Cricket BCCI does not make money off foreign tours being broadcasted to India. I was under the assumption that BCCI auctioned off the broadcast rights in India for those foreign tours.
@stfunub646
@stfunub646 3 жыл бұрын
IPL rights 2022 - 2027 are going to go for upwards of 4.5 Billion $'s, add another 700 million $'s expected from the sale of 2 new IPL teams and the BCCI can pretty much do what they please. In any case, India is still a relatively poor country viz the West -so it's monies should only be used for its development and not for developed countries such as Ireland or Netherland - if the ICC tournaments get max revenue due to India - only fair India get its share Don't agree with your Commie cricket diatribe Jarrod.
@abhijithashok2564
@abhijithashok2564 6 ай бұрын
This is bcci if they didn't have ipl wow tbh i wouldn't mind just watching players in ipl i really dont care about international cricket anyway
@punjabigundaa
@punjabigundaa 3 жыл бұрын
It all comes down to why would the big 3 share their hard earned revenues with boards that are not making profits? Pakistan needs to look at the Bangladesh model and learn. Bangladesh board is financially secure and play all their cricket in one ground. Pakistan goes from Rawalpndi to Lahore to Karachi expanding the security threats.
@RaghunandanReddyC
@RaghunandanReddyC 3 жыл бұрын
I still think they would have abandoned the series either way. World politics changed significantly after the series was announced. Taliban takeover of Afghanistan has changed the security in the region. I don't think they will risk it for couple of millions. Especially after what happened to Sri Lankan cricket team in 2009. No one is going to take a huge risk.
@shrikarhbhat1026
@shrikarhbhat1026 3 жыл бұрын
There is a practical problem attached to it like some big cricketing countries generate large revenue than others so when they come under that system they feel like they aren't getting in return as same as other are getting in terms of proportion. Like in India we have more than billion people which means more tv sets more trp more advertising opportunities and the money dynamics will start to come. If we do it in that proportion small boards may find it really difficult to survive! But I think situation related with Pakistan I think it is more to do with Political situation than the contractual things.
@AbdulRehman-fg7nb
@AbdulRehman-fg7nb 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent insights, Jarrod. I just want to point out that player don’t “need” presidential security in Pakistan. They are offered the level of security so that there isn’t any security related “excuse”, but that didn’t work out as planned, did it?!
@sashiq63
@sashiq63 3 жыл бұрын
Cricket has been polarized
@phoenix4977
@phoenix4977 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the notion of having a council as strong as you want, it has no accountability towards citizens of a country from which they'll earn their revenue, individual boards, contrary to popular belief have accountability that a global council will never have.
@nishagovil9207
@nishagovil9207 3 жыл бұрын
What sort of accountability do you want. The council will ensure that the sport is run in the right way by any means possible and that's what everyone wants. And also the national boards will not become non existent, they will exist but it's about the transfer of power from individual boards to an organisation. Look around all the global sports which are run in a better way and then compare it to cricket. You'll get the answers
@phoenix4977
@phoenix4977 3 жыл бұрын
@@nishagovil9207 Name a global sport that is run better than cricket please? As for accountability - the problem is apparant from you text itself, 'tranfer of power', it's never a good idea to centralise power from quasi federated bodies into one central body, right now all the boards work under the jurisdiction of their countries, and the people have some control over them through local means, judicial or otherwise, an interantional body will certainly accomplish one thing - it'll end cricket in the last few bastions in the world.
@ramnarayanmishra7633
@ramnarayanmishra7633 3 жыл бұрын
I blame chad om prakash
@pixelartist1532
@pixelartist1532 3 жыл бұрын
Selling all of international cricket as one big tv rights pacakge isn't a great idea when you consider the difference in economies. For someone in Aus or Eng 40-50$ a month for cricket isn't a big deal but that is an absurd amount for an Indian. For comparison I pay around 15$ for an ENTIRE YEAR disney+Hotstar subscription that Includes full Indian home season plus Premiere League and other entertainment. Same with every player getting around same money. There is absurd amount of difference in living cost in Subcontinent and Aus Eng. A normal salary in Aus is crazy money in India.
@nishagovil9207
@nishagovil9207 3 жыл бұрын
Different brodcasters are still gonna buy the rights if they think that there is an audience available. EPL is sold as a package all around the world but you can still watch it on hotstar because they have the rights for it.
@pixelartist1532
@pixelartist1532 3 жыл бұрын
@@nishagovil9207 if different broadcasters are buying it then essentially each country is contributing differently. One day BCCI CA will realize man we have crazy market at home, our broadcasters are ready to pay lot, why not also start playing some bilaterals outside this "unified league" to increse our profit. And basically soon you will be back to the current system. All this unify everything under same umbrella never works when different entities bring different amount to the table.
@DrDothraki
@DrDothraki 3 жыл бұрын
@@pixelartist1532 also this unified league would only be benificial for cricket purists. No one else is going to watch India playing in Sri Lanka. Also there's no point in touring Sri Lanka or west indies when the viewership is lesser and theres a huge gap in terms of quality as well.
@stechapo9050
@stechapo9050 3 жыл бұрын
Come on Jarrod.....a lot of what you're saying sounds like good common sense. Never gonna fly.......🤫
@Albetroz1415
@Albetroz1415 3 жыл бұрын
*Reap what you sow, Pakistan has basically KILLED Women sports in Afghanistan by backing the Taliban.* 👍
@CD-123
@CD-123 3 жыл бұрын
U missed one thing That is pkmkb
@bt2gr8k72
@bt2gr8k72 3 жыл бұрын
Only legends can understand.
@CD-123
@CD-123 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ahmed-kn1zo imran Khan ko kyu gali de raha 😂😂😂
@Ahmed-kn1zo
@Ahmed-kn1zo 3 жыл бұрын
@@CD-123 tumlog dunya ke sabsa jagil Kom ho by the way
@MarvelMysteriesUnveiled
@MarvelMysteriesUnveiled 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ahmed-kn1zo jahil log hi jahilon jaisi baat karte hai aur wo tum log ho #pkmkb😂
@hardikdave7774
@hardikdave7774 3 жыл бұрын
Well pakistan board agreed to allowing new Zealand board to cancel the tour at any time during the series. Guess what? New zealand used that right. what's the fuss ?
@talalfaraz6279
@talalfaraz6279 3 жыл бұрын
this is the stupidest comment ive ever seen lmfao
@nakulbhachawat
@nakulbhachawat 3 жыл бұрын
The old thumbnail was better mate
@tom-oc3lm
@tom-oc3lm 3 жыл бұрын
Do a collab with the grade cricketer......they have a lot of social capital and are also aussie
@JarrodKimberYT
@JarrodKimberYT 3 жыл бұрын
They’re mates. I’ve been on their pod before
@user-rg3cc1jm5w
@user-rg3cc1jm5w 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodKimberYT How about Daniel Alexander and Dennis Freedman? It would be a fun to see you Collab with them.
@tom-oc3lm
@tom-oc3lm 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah do one with dennis.....he seems to know a lot when he tweets 😉.......and our lovely daniel Alexander is just a legend 💙
@tom-oc3lm
@tom-oc3lm 3 жыл бұрын
Also dennis freedman has a lot of Twitter followers.....
@Sarabheswaran7010
@Sarabheswaran7010 Жыл бұрын
I love this video
@zeeshanfaraz9366
@zeeshanfaraz9366 3 жыл бұрын
love from Pakistan, thanks for raising your voice for our cricket.
@dhruba5849
@dhruba5849 3 жыл бұрын
I am absolutely with Pakistan. I want International cricket back In Pakistan. I believe they have worked so hard to make Pakistan a safe Haven for Osama bin laden, Masood Azhar ,Dawood Ibrahim and all other great cricketers who plays with grenades rather than cricket ball...🤣🤣🤣
@Slayer123-g6v
@Slayer123-g6v 3 жыл бұрын
🙂☺️🤗
@GuruKpa
@GuruKpa 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine poor India sponsoring growth of cricket in Netherlands. This model is flush scheme, like what ICC is trying with stuffing a tournament every year. Suddenly, player power is the buzz word, which is horryfying for every Board.
@abhijithramesh1005
@abhijithramesh1005 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by poor India? 😂 BCCI is the richest cricket board in the world.
@GuruKpa
@GuruKpa 3 жыл бұрын
@@abhijithramesh1005 Imagine thinking European nations don't have money to fund sports, so they will rob India. Nobody sent out of turn cheques to bcci to grow the game. Bcci did it. And yes, 50% of cricket money is generated in India, doesn't mean bcci should distribute it to pcb.
@eddo1846
@eddo1846 3 жыл бұрын
Warne comments Oz Eng Ind. NZ and others .....crickets
@rishabhthakur7559
@rishabhthakur7559 3 жыл бұрын
International team sport in all sports; is just an active crime scene. Nobody gets paid and people cry when players choose to do things that actually pay them OR you know act like professionals. Gotta feel for the Pakistan players man; they keep touring, get no share in the revenue, their board upends the domestic structure every other year and now after ages whiteys were gonna come and play WITH fans and this happens. But then England has been flipping the bird to all and sundry, personally think we in India got very lucky in 2008, when they did come back to finish the series. On a side note; England and Australia upping sticks and not touring SA was a real tragedy too.
@samuelbruning5903
@samuelbruning5903 3 жыл бұрын
Well said, as ever. Think there’s also something in almost entitled reaction of fans, in all countries, when series are cancelled, almost saying ‘dance for me monkey’
@simpleman180
@simpleman180 3 жыл бұрын
also pakistan openly supported taliban so they can play with them
@talalfaraz6279
@talalfaraz6279 3 жыл бұрын
pakistan does not support what taliban is doing, Pakistan is the only country with a rational solution to fixing the problem in Afghanistan, US just needs to wake up
@simpleman180
@simpleman180 3 жыл бұрын
@@talalfaraz6279 also isi was hiding osama bin laden in rawalpindi
@Ahmed-kn1zo
@Ahmed-kn1zo 3 жыл бұрын
@@simpleman180 those are terrorists are trained by raw
@pradeepmavilla914
@pradeepmavilla914 3 жыл бұрын
"Pakistan is the biggest victim" is music to the ears of all Pakistanis 😄
@AtharvaGade16
@AtharvaGade16 3 жыл бұрын
Really amazing video 👌loved it !
@TheJack1947
@TheJack1947 3 жыл бұрын
why ur idea sound like communist cricket ?
@magictricks1647
@magictricks1647 3 жыл бұрын
the idea of communism isn't bad tho. Like people hate idealistic things but if you want sport to be more competitive and inclusive, you need some way of reducing the power of money. I am a big F1 fan and its the most capitalistic thing, where 4/20 drivers are on the grid coz their dads are billionaires, surely we dont want something like that in cricket? Like I am not shitting on capitalism, I am saying we as society need to look to reform things rather than leading to income inequalities of 1700s France.
@nsn5564
@nsn5564 3 жыл бұрын
The NFL in the US is the richest and most powerful sports league there is, and it is extremely socialist in model and practice. In every detail, like who gets which player and who plays whom. It is designed to avoid rich teams using their power to continue monopolizing resources and becoming all powerful. Socialist ideas are entrenched in many parts of society. Government itself is a socialist idea in concept, a central organization that represents and operates on behalf of all people.
@TheJack1947
@TheJack1947 3 жыл бұрын
@@magictricks1647 Pls try communism in ur country .. we tried for 70 yrs still poorest country in the world
@jatinkumar7287
@jatinkumar7287 3 жыл бұрын
Man I was looking for last day match dc vs srh, I support dc team so I wanna hear more about them. But many people skips their matches like they win they gd and just like that they don't talk much stuff about them. Even though u bring a nice topic but I would personally wants you to cover dc matches too. 🥺
@onylra6265
@onylra6265 3 жыл бұрын
'Too much cricket' ... Jarrod, you'll just have to forgive us normal people for laughing in derision. Fine, let 'em get a Real Job - I'm sure there's plenty of normal folk waiting in the wings who'd fill their spots. 99% of competitive cricketers have a shit day job, and then show up to the their games on the weekend. The trouble is, for people within the professional ecosystem, that they've entirely lost touch with their audience - they're becoming greedy, entitled, and pretentious. They cry 'burnout', and then take comfy sabbaticals for seasons at a time - so hard done by! The 'too much cricket' and 'boo-hoo COVID sucks' bit just doesn't really wash with the unwashed masses who ultimately pay their salaries. The 'I'm a bit worried about getting fucking suicide-bombs by deranged lunatics' bit should probably elicit a bit more sympathy from people like you. The truth is that in the old days people truly did play it for the love of country, and in many ways that's why we watch it too - by losing sight of that and becoming mercenary, the very core of cricket itself is being undermined. In search of the almighty paycheck they hazard the withering and erosion of that paycheck. Unfortunately there are things greater than the silly game of cricket. If pro cricket dies I don't even know if I'd care that much, TBH - I played the game and watched it before that, and I doubt that would ever change for me.
@arindombharadwaj3258
@arindombharadwaj3258 3 жыл бұрын
Wow such nice idea. We give u the fans the eyeballs and u take the money wow.
@abhijithashok2564
@abhijithashok2564 6 ай бұрын
Why do you need presidential security cricket isnt even popular lol
@hardikparbhakar7845
@hardikparbhakar7845 3 жыл бұрын
another one of those let's blame india for other people's failure bravo👏
@ab1599
@ab1599 3 жыл бұрын
Samaraweera what say you? Some nations give you handshakes, some a bullet through the knee, in between there are fair arguments though.
@kaushikka
@kaushikka 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously good stuff!
@md.farhanzahedi7716
@md.farhanzahedi7716 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!Never knew cricket economy is that terrible..🙁
@kaustubhh8466
@kaustubhh8466 3 жыл бұрын
Whats the meaning of the kid intro?
@YoursTruly-hw1xz
@YoursTruly-hw1xz 3 жыл бұрын
Everything u said seems correct until u realize what if NZ played and terrorist attacked? U r correct about their economic and moral impact on Pak cricket but totally wrong about Pak own part in it! Why was this system not checked before this incident in this much light? U are sweeping real problem under the carpet! Check recent security condition of Pak and u will realize that things are not always economic, and u only see from cricket lens! Cricket is and always have been "CRICKET BEYOND ENTERTAINMENT"
@kushsharma4425
@kushsharma4425 3 жыл бұрын
Virat kohli do make money out of England tour. It's not as immediate or simple as you expect bit its there. It's like a company making an investment with guaranteed profitable long term income.
@angryshenlong4502
@angryshenlong4502 3 жыл бұрын
England pulling out is kinda sus ngl.
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