LIVE CONVO: Karen Read's Mistrial with 13th Juror Podcast Host, Brandi Churchwell

Ashley Flowers of ‪@CrimeJunkie‬ & ‪@brandichurchwell‬ talk about the Karen Read case, the mistrial, Michael Proctor, and what's happening next!
Want to learn more about this case? Watch episode 1 of CJAF here: • FULL EPISODE: Delia D'...

[@katedickenson4607]

the fact is , they did NOT prove this beyond a reasonable doubt - end of case - NOT GUILTY!

[@maryw1129]

I feel guilty totally

[@AleisterCrowleyMagus]

@@maryw1129 then you are a science denier. Sorry but the ARCCA testimony thoroughly disproved the ridiculous CW Troopah Pah fantasy.

[@MrSnivelupagus]

@@maryw1129 lol feel? Cars don't create dog bite wounds!

[@IMSHARP777]

​@maryw1129 I respect your opinion, with that said if your a juror you can honestly sit here and tell me you would say GUILTY? I must ask about reasonable doubt and what gives you your feelings of guilt? Thank you

[@lmkays]

Yep, reasonable was plentiful

[@peggychamberlain9515]

Proctor belongs in prison!!!

[@MyrtleBeachWebAngel]

Your channel has never popped in my feed and I watch so much similar content... I'm glad you were in the random feed today 🎉🎉🎉 New Subscriber

[@B_Bodziak]

With even the medical examiner even saying his injuries weren't consistent with being hit at 24mph, the entire reason Lally put the ME up last was he needed at least one juror to have decided that Read was definitely guilty BEFORE hearing the me and disregarding that testimony.

[@AleisterCrowleyMagus]

Exactly. And maybe it’s not true but it seemed to me that the M.E. looked more comfortable when on cross saying that his injuries could have been due to everything the Defense suggested. I firmly believe that Procter et al. pressured her. She was brave but I do wish she’d been even braver…

[@bethryan9077]

@@AleisterCrowleyMagus I wish numpties would stick to the Cartoons.

[@patriciaspiers1574]

The dog bites are also very clear.

[@maryw1129]

No dog DNA That theory was make-believe everyone is buying it.I don't get it

[@LoriFranklin-ee4sh]

Polycarbonate tail lights do not shatter.

[@mikeroche8544]

Pigskin taillights leave Pig DNA on people though, ....kidding

[@rhondajones-zs7nw]

A glass will crack a taillight also they become brittle in the cold. Do your research.

[@Ksizzle316]

@@rhondajones-zs7nwcrack not shattered is the key word

[@MimiDidi121]

I was frustrated that wasn’t brought up! They kept just calling it plastic! They even make bulletproof shields out of polycarbonate plastic!

[@Chis56]

Only at very high speed impact, certainly not at 25 mph. The defence experts dealt with this question. And no way did officer O’Keefe get hit by a car . The crack became a problem when that car got into proctors hands. The Tail light lens got completely smashed off .

[@mikeroche8544]

Proctor is just the tip of the iceberg...

[@B_Bodziak]

Let's hope so.

[@maryw1129]

He did not impede the investigation.He just added inappropriate text.There's a big difference

[@mikeroche8544]

@@maryw1129 "He did not impede the investigation"======= Proctor did NOT DO an investigation. He set up the GOSSIP by sending all the townies nasty stuff blaming Karen instead of investigating. Never even went into the Albert house to investigate and he WAS an investigator!

[@debbiepeirce7509]

He didn’t investigate it properly period

[@libertyna933]

He was in charge and they used solo cups , no pics of tail light, inverted video, etc.

[@Doktracy]

I think jury was intimidated in some way

[@justanavgguy7802]

Very refreshing to watch 2 attractive & intelligent women who have meaningful involvement in the Karen Read case do this ‘one-on-one’ presentation. I’m a bit surprised that you didn’t mention the ‘dog bite’ wounds on John O’Keefe’s arm and the expert testimony concerning them. Looking forward to future presentations from both of you.

[@peggychamberlain9515]

The CW is corrupt to the bone!!!!

[@lacierowell8623]

They don’t all have to be in on anything….only a select group. The firefighters have been rumored to be corrupt as well so they may have been told what to say. I wouldn’t doubt that even the ppl in the house even knew…they could have kept it under wraps until they all left and then moved his body and came up with a story. The Albert’s, Mccabes and proctors absolutely know what happened to him.

[@lacierowell8623]

And Higgins…clearly as he headed straight to the canton PD to oversee what was being reported there…

[@coffeecake1803]

@@lacierowell8623I wish so bad we had Higgins phone - I’m betting that 22 second phone call - was ‘get over here! We have to move him’

[@user-ut3ft4qn5f]

I agree only a few know what really happened and Chloe

[@B_Bodziak]

If he loses his job or is reprimanded in any way, it will be gold for the defense if they do go forward with a retrial. Unfortunately, if Bev is still on the bench, she'll be the judge again. If Read jad not gone looking for him that morning, the Canton PD would have put the snow plow driver up as the sacrificial lamb.

[@lonettehendrick9836]

That is what another KZbin person had said that does investigation stuff. Makes sense Right?!

[@OG80sMusicMan]

Brandi!!! She is Awesome

[@CrimeJunkie]

She is!!

[@eden_aumakua]

ZERO worries from those of us who support KAREN READ!! More will come out ! Truth will be REVEALED!!

[@coffeecake1803]

Word is that: Brian A punched him in the nose and John fell back and smacked his head and Chloe attacked him to protect her owner - either they threw him in the shower (thus wet clothing) and then John didn’t wake up - threw up after having a convulsion - threw John at the edge of the property with the hopes that they could say the plow hit him (as a plow had recently hit someone else in the area recently) - So many podcasters have done great on this case!! I think the towns people realized how bad the police in the area are - you need to look into Sandra Birchmore

[@lonettehendrick9836]

And where did that word come from? There are so many stories out there. I still believe Karen is not guilty of anything. But the Alberts and McCabes did something. Higgins as well! If this was an accident they should have called and admitted it to begin with. They all make themselves look really stupid and liars!

[@Dee-ny6uo]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@coffeecake1803]

@@Dee-ny6uo what are you laughing at?

[@Dee-ny6uo]

@@coffeecake1803 🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵

[@jessicanorval7893]

Idk how I’ve been an avid crime junkie listener for YEARS and never knew you had a KZbin channel? WTF is wrong with me. This is amazing! so happy I found your channel, especially collaborating with the brilliant and beautiful Brandi!!

[@Aja1222]

I wholeheartedly believe this was a cover that was pinned on the most believeable suspect, being Karen. Had she not cracked her taillight after hitting John's car, they probably would've tried to pin it on Lucky, the plow driver.

[@ThatRedhedd]

Proof beyond "reasonable" doubt only applies when jurors aren't UNREASONABLE! For an effective jury panel, most people lack the requisite emotional intelligence to be fair & the ability to give someone grace in times of trauma or grief. They don't realize that people all respond differently when experiencing trauma, or that "not crying during the trial" isn't an indication of guilt. The lunatics who hear factual, credible, common sense evidence that the car didn't strike a person - and John's injuries weren't caused by a car - from the best independent experts in the nation used by the DOJ & NHL...and _still_ refuse to accept their testimony as true - are serving on juries & putting innocent people in prison ALL over...ALL the time. So, _why_ is this our chosen justice system? Any of us could be imprisoned for something we didn't do because of those people. There are countless examples of this happening to people who were later exonerated upon further investigation. We cannot stand for this. I don't want these people on my jury if I'm ever falsely accused of a crime! I don't want my freedom taken because of a few people's blind faith in law enforcement or critique of my facial expressions. Why do we put such an important decision in the hands of a jury with NO prerequisite IQ, education, life experience, or proven open-mindedness? Why wouldn't potential jurors have to pass a thorough screening interview, mental health assessment, psychological evaluation, or emotional intelligence screening? We all agree that our current system is wrought with human error & bias, yet we've done nothing to correct it in over 200 years! Without enacting a more rigorous jury screening process, here's how we could improve the process to ensure defendants receive the benefit of the doubt while preventing wrongful convictions: A "guilty" verdict must be unanimous. A 10-2 or 11-1 "not guilty" verdict is an acquittal. That way, 1 or 2 "unreasonable" people won't cause a mistrial!

[@eammbutler1323]

I agree about a large majority for not guilty leading to acquittal but not the rest. A jury only gets a case when professionals decide to prosecute. A defendant could opt for a bench trial but obviously no same person would if Aunty Bev is the judge.

[@iamkendraofficial2174]

They won’t retry her.. they have no evidence

[@brrk7710]

I don’t think even a ton of people knew what happened - if JOK immediately got out of car (nagel brother said Karen was alone in car) We also know at that point Higgins plow was Not where he said it was - I think jok went straight to him - a scuffle and if jok fell back into plow and especially area of attachment / lots of sharp metal that could have caused abrasions/ scratches on arm-if he fell between plow and keep) Higgins runs into house for help ( the time period when BA and BH we’re supposedly in other room looking at photos) Now BA tells Jen / Matt to clear out house - sends Higgins on his way - says go to canton PD so u have alibi … Then BA moved body and plan is to say - never saw him - must have been hit by plow - he was really drunk - think they switched to KR at the early morning meeting at Albert’s Also important - at fed grand jury Higgins says see man in house - he was alluding to nagel brother not Jok…. So why say u saw someone in house who we know never went in house ? He got confused as to whether angel bro went in house - and Higgins wants to be in house at that point - because that is alibi

[@LoriFranklin-ee4sh]

I think Procters Rehomong deal was made before trial. He won't go away - he knows too much about other Officers and department heads.

[@beththompson417]

Sadly, there are more reasons than this case that would cause B. Albert and Higgins to destroy their phones. It may not be tied to this case, or only tied to this case. It is suss though.

[@lindamon5101]

& remodel the basement? Hellooooo!

[@beththompson417]

He's on paid vacation to the tune of $184k/ year.

[@B_Bodziak]

And they say crime doesn't pay.

[@redsassyfox1912]

Troopers start salary in Massachusetts is 69k he’s been working for a few years, I assure you the little worm wishes he made that. It’s not even close to that tho. You can google it

[@debbiepeirce7509]

@@redsassyfox1912he is definitely not qualified to be a lead detective

[@JanetVB-nw5tp]

​@@redsassyfox1912it was reported he made $144k plus almost $40k in overtime. Its crazy

[@USAEast]

It is RIDICULOUS that ALL government employees are paid more than the local taxpayers who pay their salary, then they act like they are somebody better than the rest. They should not be paid more than the average wage. Teachers in my neck of the woods are topping off $100k when worker bees average less than $50k! Another thing on the list that must change!

[@TheMiddlemanPc]

FINALLY YOU ARE ON KZbin!!! 😃

[@paigecm]

Microdots too, I hope you know how much you aid all of us with these films too.

[@AleisterCrowleyMagus]

Dr. Baden has now stated she was murdered. And she was preg with married cop’s baby when murdered. The Sandra Birchmore case is heartbreaking - many similar MA creeps involved - cops SAd Sandra when she was a minor child, texted out n00dz and vile messages about her, and abused her for years.

[@md8465]

Yes, I think Proctor was the lead detective; will not be anymore.

[@acovert8241]

Who was a daddy?

[@coffeecake1803]

We do not need to hear about Aruba

[@MimiDidi121]

Have you see Paul’s interview? I couldn’t watch it. I watched until he told why they believe Karen is guilty, then I turned it off. I already have negative feelings toward he and his mother. The way his mother behaved during the trial would have not gone over in any other courtroom in America. She was laughing when they were reading proctors text messages and I saw twice where the defense objected to something and she had her hands up and plop them down in her lap. Judges usually tell family members if they can’t keep from crying during autopsy or crime scene pictures to leave the courtroom. They don’t want the family to show any emotion. That tiny courtroom had the O’Keefe family directly in front of the jurors. Paul said the reason they KNEW she was guilty because of the way she behaved the day of John‘s death. They’re basing her guilt on her behavior, but they said in that courtroom and saw all that evidence that proved she did not hit him with her vehicle. She didn’t hit him with her vehicle then how did the tail light pieces get there? That’s where all the conspiracy ideas come from. That the Canton remnants of a drinking glass, and some blood. They blew the snow around with a leaf blower, and didn’t see one piece of bright red plastic! so many people like to say it’s strains credulity! (Sp?).

[@redblackroses23]

Insane to me that his family really seems to think she did it. I know its hard to accept that his fellow cops could've done this, but the evidence is so clear that it's not her

[@acovert8241]

Intimidation by Brian Albert and Jen McCabe staring down the jury. Remember this is a small town and they carry power.

[@acovert8241]

Karen lost her house, she sold it. Her job, her vehicle. Hope the Karen fund continues to grow.

[@IMSHARP777]

She sold her house?

[@custercrazyhorse8616]

There was no documentation of evidence,no photographs, and no interview with the occupants of the house where the body on the lawn was found. Investigation 101. Wouldn't these be the first 3 things done in an investigation? Canton Police Department got the order to steer clear of 34 Fairview Rd. Almost like a Mafia boss is calling the shots. The first responder,that never came out of the house,to ask what is going on with the ambulance and fire trucks,also known as Brian Albert, would qualify as a mob boss. Nobody likes him,and everyone knows not to go near him and his orders.

[@md8465]

He looks like a mean person. I do not believe they were sleeping when the investigation was going on. B...S...

[@EmJust]

The Trooper Union’s statement makes it very clear that Proctor is only being investigated for his texts at this time. This does NOT surprise as they have had ALL of this information for 16 months whilst carrying out an ‘internal investigation’. Clearly their internal investigations department is as inept as the Canton PD and the majority of State troopers that testified at trial. It’s so incredibly concerning that not one department seems to be looking at the entirety of what has happened here and that less than satisfactory Troopers are still patrolling the streets and highways of MA. If Read was found guilty no action would’ve been taken against Proctor and I firmly believe that any action taken against him now will be minimal as it could not be clearer that this is just a poorly conceived PR stunt. Perhaps both for and against Read protesters can come together and agree that MA citizens deserve better?!

[@Woefman911]

I learned alot from 13th jurror, just found her podcast last night, wow have I learned alot.

[@redblackroses23]

It is just absolutely insane that jury didn't acquit. Shameful.

[@heatherm9163]

28:04 The problem is that within 16 hours, Proctor had decided how it was going to go and he was going to make the evidence fit. My Red Flags started with the Leafblower and so cups. Then, over the next few hours the Canton is recused but conveniently the case was somehow assigned to a family friend and a cold case partner. What are the chances of is that happening with no shady business, Slim to none. I looked up the roster for MSP in 2022 and there were many MSP Troopers, far more than I expected! Then the fact that Proctor called Sert to assemble however told them to hold off until he got approval. I think it was more like until he could get KE’s interview over and get her vehicle. He had time with the vehicle before (I believe the evidence clearly showed that). Then the prosecution played the inverted video and that really put me over the edge. That video shouldn’t have been allowed but regardless, it took the Defense pointing out that what the jurors were led to believe until then was absolutely disgraceful and I thoroughly believed mistrial WITH prejudice was warranted for this purposeful act by the Prosecution and witness (as well as a number of other Prosecutorial and Judicial errors) That was clear and convincing evidence the Prosecutor was not coming from a position of truth, but rather he just wanted the win. That included all the testimony from the multiple liars that the Prosecution knew had already lied and would continue to do so. Witnesses in the beginning like B Albert and M McCabe were steadily looking at what was likely texts on their phones or watches. It was blatantly obvious!

[@charmainesanders8734]

Same for me. I went into this case without listening to any pre trial hearings. Slowly but surely so many red flags popped up. I think the cherry on top, was Troooer Paul's reenactment. That to me was ludicrous. Also Trooper Greano (sorry about spelling), trying to prove the cellubrite information was wrong. We know, as avid trial watchers, so many murderers were found guilty because of their phones. Are we to expect appeals on all of these cases 😂. And I think the gaslighting by unlikable Jen, was just the deciding factor for me. After her performance I would also say "I hit him", even though I am in another country. IMO it can only be "flar earthers" who do not believe in science, proving that it was impossible that the car hit him. I still have a private chuckle when I try and picture OJO, being hit on the arm, smashes his head, then does a 360, and then flies 30 feet.😂 I am actually looking forward the the next trial. I want to see the squirming, of all the liars.

[@heatherm9163]

@@charmainesanders8734 I mean a Jackson “Pirouette”. I almost spit out my coffee. Of course what happened to IJO was not funny but the state sure treated it like a comedy. My theory about Mani McCabe (manipulative McCabe) is that after her eerily quite call to 911 (the call cleaned up without the background noise is VERY telling) Jen leans into Karen when EMT’s are there and quietly says: Did you possibly hit him, do you think you could have hit him?” Karen responds with incredulity REPEATING what Jen said “Did I hit him, could I have hit him” as in “are you freaking serious right now? Given both of there personalities, I could absolutely see that happening. I would probably say the same thing Karen did. She thought this witch was her friend…far from it Jen didn’t say any of it in her initial interview and it wasn’t until after the family and friend pow wow that she called the investigator back and gave the first version of what she claimed KR blurted out. Of course that statement changed more times and basically took on a life if it’s own…morphing into something completely different than all other testimony she gave about it. I wish someone caught her off guard and asked her contextual questions about that conversation. Her face doesn’t hide lies well AT ALL!

[@acovert8241]

Lucky, the snowplow guy who testified is having threats, intimidation and harassment towards him.

[@IMSHARP777]

Thank you for telling me that,please spread this as much as you can please !!- this is not right he lost his wife and that really bothers him and you know how they'll attack him-!!!! He is related to a Canton council member with the same last name.❤❤

[@IMSHARP777]

LEAVE LUCKY ALONE!!

[@LynetteA68]

That right there proves these cops are crooks AF or why would ppl be attacking a witness or had zero to gain by coming in and telling truth? Those cops had EVERYTHING to lose!! Ppl who attack ppl like Lucky are disgusting!!

[@biankamak3609]

I still consider, that Jen, Brian, and Colin appearing in court for the closing arguments was a form of intimidation of some jurors. Someone on the internet made a point of Colin maybe knowing some juror's kids, having cross pass with them, might have something to do with his presence in the court.

[@evelynmahoney3569]

Newer news than Proctor: 3 "Not Guilty" leaning jurors were dismissed on the last day of trial. 2 others were similarly released or dismissed previous to these. That's 5!

[@suekandel7625]

I have heard they can postpone scheduling the "hearing" indefinitely... he gets paid, he retires......

[@JanetVB-nw5tp]

People that live in Massachusetts should be monitoring this investigation and hold them accountable

[@evem8333]

If only forensic investigators could get inside that 34 Fairview house and tear up the basement linoleum flooring that had been since laid post O JO’s death to sell the house, and spray luminal to test for O JO blood.

[@tammyglasenappsimon4941]

Everyone should go watch the interview between A friend interview with microdots.

[@adriannegrant766]

OK that's important, why did no one talk about the vomit? And the how long to digest food?How did he vomit? No bruising around his stomach from car or being boxed in the stomach?

[@goodiesgumdrops1164]

Head injuries can make you vomit

[@ThatRedhedd]

He seized and vomited after being knocked out in Brian Albert's basement.

[@melanieeaves1786]

Just because he isnt "fired" doesnt mean he shouldnt be. Sometimes unions are not good when it comes to some things

[@patriciacook7278]

Then the town has to deal with the Sandra B. Case as well. It involves some of the same investigators!

[@phillipbray1700]

It was the prosecutors strategy to put pressure on the jury with all the testimony

[@justintharp5652]

An EMT remembering something that didn't exist??? Ok I don't know if that makes sense? 🤔 Mmmmhhhhhhhh??🤔 That's a little bit to far for my imagination to stretch I'm afraid??🧐. Usually EMTs are pretty Thorough & accurate as to what did and did not happen... They don't usually pull something out of thin air- like a big puffy jacket?? Plus because it was big an puffy- in it by itself would have made it that much easier to remember what the jacket looked like would it not?? Were there any crime scene photos taken of John O'Keefe before his body was moved- to verify whether or not John was actually wearing a big puffy jacket??? 🤔 And we know the chances of Katie the first responder lying -goes up significantly if her story has evolved from one testimony to the other... With actual memory of an a event- a person story will never change- because it's being pulled from real time memory... And trauma keeps the memory intact over time. Where's a person who is fabricating their version of a story will struggle to keep their story straight... Which was definitely the case with Katie... So, more likely then not Katie was indeed falsifying her testimony to fit into the narrative that Lily was presenting. Hence 2+2=4. 😘✌️

[@B_Bodziak]

She testified that they spoke about it often at the firehouse. It's not a stretch for people who were at the scene and in the firehouse to hear and participate in the discussions to misremember that they heard Read say something that was actually something they heard at the firehouse discussions. It was over two years ago. I wonder if the juror(s) who voted guilty have gone back and watched any of the voir dire of the witnesses and other evidence they didn't get. It would be interesting to know the split. Bev should have polled the jurors for the record!

[@maryw1129]

The e m t was just telling what he heard There. Wasn't a slew of people in on a cover up?That's all b.S

[@ThatRedhedd]

​@@B_Bodziak You're saying they all tainted each other's recollection by sharing amongst one another. Witnesses are specifically kept separate for the purpose of _not_ tainting each other's memories. None of their testimony is reliable. Human memory is notoriously unreliable.

[@crash24420]

I don’t know if anyone in the house is truly guilty. I think they all are afraid they will be accused of being guilty which they have been. That’s the cover-up.. I think John might’ve been passed out snow plow scooped him up. Also , these cops are dirty! They are a band of brothers and are sticking together, Karen is innocent!

[@McQuizzical]

If the split was in favour of the Prosecution, we'd have heard the Jury pole by now.

[@codybella1]

Why didn’t they judge ask what question they were deadlocked on?

[@acovert8241]

She went back and spoke to the jury. So she knows the count for and against Karen. I’m sure she asked plenty of questions not on the record.

[@codybella1]

@@acovert8241 that was after she declared a mistrial. She should have asked before that.

[@marytracy7955]

She is INNOCENT!!

[@maryw1129]

Guilty

[@MimiDidi121]

My favorite was “who if anyone, was driving the ambulance?” Huh? I assume SOMEONE was driving the ambulance DA! That doesn’t mean district attorney! 😮

[@Ksizzle316]

Proctors been rehomed. Chloe’s been rehomed. Albert’s phones have been rehomed. Higgins phone could not be rehomed because he destroyed it.

[@Arizona_gal]

The stress and everything has got to be over the top in regards to how it will affect her already compromised health. Pray for KR

[@jfk32975]

Maybe stopping drinking will improve her heath. She’s an alcoholic.

[@lonettehendrick9836]

Great video kids!

[@philm3655]

I have become very obsessed with this case ! All Dog trainers, all agree Those are bite marks on John’s arm ! Indicating John was in the house ( Chloe the dog ) Became involved in the obvious altercation autopsy photos show John eyes Black and blue , face mauled 😱 My question for theO’Keefe family , why does the family have tunnel vision? 89% of the public all agree Karen, Read is innocent !!!

[@MimiDidi121]

Only in MA does “relieved of duty” NOT mean fired!

[@shecat1964]

I feel tricked, I actually thought this was one of the jurors. There are too many channels covering the same thing. You all need to get together.

[@debbieblair3329]

Brandi is awesome!

[@heatherm9163]

28:20 and given the brief recording in the PD when Karen said something like “your in on the joke to? My taillight has a crack and John is pulverized. This is really indicative of her personality. I actually believe that Karen never asked or made statements about her involvement the way it was presented. I think what happened: Jen calls 911 in the mist eerily calm way and states “guy”or “Man” is in the snow. She speaks so quietly as on this call. That is crazy to me because I would be all losing my mind just , however I believe with all my heart: Jen almost whispered, to Jaren the same way she spoke to 911 “do you think you hit him, do you think you could have hit him? Karen responded with absolute incredulity and disbelief that her friend would even ask her that and she REPEATED what Karen just said. “Did I hit him, could I have hit him? As in, you have got to be kidding! Then once the fam got together to figure out their story, Hen remembered this situation, likely Jerri brought it up and would only would likely have states s

[@AmysPositivePathways]

This case is like a true crime innocent project podcast in reverse. Like undisclosed in reverse etc.

[@crash24420]

The evidence showed that he was not hit by a car to me that’s the end of the game. she’s not guilty!

[@annemariedandrea5721]

Yes, a lot of consistencies with the staircase as well. The statement of KAREN were Proctor says he wish she was dead it would make it easier and the same thing was said for Sarah. It was made to look like she committed suicide, but in fact, my opinion is she was killed.

[@CL-kn1rq]

I heard a comment yesterday who called people who inserted themselves into people's real life during this trial called "true crime slime" so I told my friend about this true crime slime, she only watches True Crime Junkie because you are the only only channel that does a ASL version. So she hit me. She thought I was referring to TCJ, I had to fight for my life. You have a loyal AF subbie Ashley.

[@modeangelis7913]

Why has noone mentionef the vomit, or did they??? I just heard that, but dobt remember from testimony..

[@melmac685]

The "Crash Daddies" testimony Crushed the anything the CW had...simple physics, imo 👍👍

[@mas6522]

Two beautiful hosts here, but is the laughter during the convo necessary. It bothers me to the core that everyone, except for the O’Keefe family, finds this trial and mistrial to be entertaining. I don’t know the affected families at all, but this should be a fight for justice for Officer O’Keefe and his family, not about the defendant and her newfound celebrity persona.

[@annemariedandrea5721]

There is too much emphasis on the “I hit him” oh this is nowhere in any reports again making the words look like they fit the evidence to find her guilty. This is horrifying.

[@sharonwest2443]

Turtle Boy is in Canton in front of D&E pizza protesting ❤❤❤

[@rhondajones-zs7nw]

He’s a complete loser and he’ll end up in jail like he deserves and has crested a fictitious story and you’ve all brought into it.

[@dianasimplifies]

I didn't even know you were on YT 😂

[@PhoebeMc]

Bizarre!! No offense, anyone, but I began paying attention to this case because of John O'Keefe's injuries & seeing, obviously, no way they could've been created by a vehicle!! Even excluding the arm, which I took 1 look at & wondered what dog jumped on him BUT, & here's why no offense: I honestly don't see how anyone with 1/2a brain could think a car was involved & if no car was involved, Karen Read cannot be found guilty. Simple. The arm isn't involved in the actual charges. I'm not even sure they attributed to his death, but with those, as well as the butt dials, screwed up investigation, Procter too close to the McAlberts, etc. There's actually enough reasonable doubt, in my opinion, to fly a 747 thru our drive a semi!! But seriously... all the chgs require he was hit by a car & I fail to see it. I couldn't see it before the trial!! Without the inbreeding, the"cover-up", & as I said, all the screw up, lies, inverted video, et al. I fail to comprehend!! I don't know what did happen but I do know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, not only should this NEVER HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO TRIAL (NEVER MIND A 2ND TIME!!! WHICH, I don't think they really will), she is guilty-!! And as far as any drunk driving, I also fail to see how they'd ever prove that!! The BAC they took at 9:?? the next day can't be right!! Procter is who have them the info as to when Karen had her last drink, and we KNOW he didn't know! He'd never even talked to her so how would he know she did or did not have a drink at 12:45, which, incidentally, is the exact time Lally gave as the time of the murder when he first told the CW theory!! We all know that's changed, too, but how would Procter have known? How would anyone know? FYI: Ladies, people who live in Canton say Procter is home while he's being investigated. So, he gets to earn $200K, roughly, for bugging Lizzie 24/7. And isn't she a jewel? Oi!! Never fear!! I truly don't think the CW will retry but, even if they do, Ajax has a 96% win rate. They'll be able to autopsy the trial. Choose what worked & what didn't & lay Lally out!! I just do hope we hear soon from one or more of the jurors. And I'm super glad you aren't covering the fact Paul O'Keefe talked cause hearing that shit once was enough for me!! Thx!!

[@dmar1796]

The Judge should have recused herself from the beginning also! 😡

[@MimiDidi121]

I wish I lived somewhere I could wear sweatshirt in July! Today it was 97 with the heat index of 104. It was oppressively, hot and humid. Welcome to the south in July! It will be that way till the last week of September or early October! We buried my mother in law on September 8th. The actual air temp was 107 that day! of course when you get that hot, the humidity isn’t as bad!

[@B_Bodziak]

This is the first video I've watched on this channel, and I keep hitting the thumbs up button, but it's not registering. Anyone know why?

[@ThatRedhedd]

That happens to me every few days, and it seems to be a glitch in the KZbin app. Just completely close the app and restart it.

[@Woefman911]

Are you in sallieport? Your video is exactly as it appeared !!!! 😮

[@micadd1]

NOT GUILTY!!!

[@thomast596]

It’s not a conspiracy? Then how did Karen’s taillight get on that lawn? Who killed John? It only took a few to plant evidence. People who say Karen is innocent but there’s no planted evidence make me shake my head.

[@annemariedandrea5721]

This is my opinion was very shady. What they did was try to fit narrative with the accident. This terrifies me this could be anybody.😮

[@alexchiarella7422]

She is a very smart woman and clever. I can explain to you why she sent those messages. Because, she was covering her self ahead of time but leaving all those messages.

[@lauriezografos404]

Paul OKeefe did interviews this weekend and they believe she’s guilty because she didn’t hand around the house that morning and she gathered her things and left 🤦‍♀️

[@valcunningham8260]

I know they think she drank alot but for some people they have a high tolerance for alcoholic and it doesnt effect them even after drinking alot so no deciston can be based on that. Karen is innocent anyway!

[@crash24420]

I think they should change venue for too many close connections in that town and I think there should be a new judge… definitely venue Change though

[@Ksizzle316]

Proctor can’t see well. He can’t tell where his lawn ends n the street begins. “Get off my lawn” Sir this is the middle of the street 😂

[@lindamon5101]

I sincerely hope U2 girls get on the Dan Markel case& omg Jon Benet❤❤

[@thegamblingteam1083]

Love your shoe

[@Amontillado72]

Plenty of John's blood would have been found in Brian Albert's basement where John was beaten and fell with the back of his head on one of the gym tools that were installed there

[@Miss_Tika1]

The house wasn’t searched and the flooring in the Albert’s basement now have laminate laid

[@masterdude420]

Brandi is a real one

[@Krhaavi]

Rewatch crew‼️

[@andyschool]

Tully or Guarino altered it. Bukhenik & Berko did the tail light sprinkle finds most likely done by Proctor. Enhancing a case to make it easier bc they felt he did it; weren’t experienced enough to know physics of injuries or where debris flies.

[@nickychargreaves]

It's wonderful actually he's spoken out because it only strengthens our resolve how far people will go to be purely nasty based on zero facts just opinion...no wonder kr was fraught.

[@annemariedandrea5721]

Yup 50 shades of blue😮

[@downtherabbitholes4714]

wow......professionals can't always tell what happens in an accident. That is why they are called accidents.

[@danvandermeulen9337]

Someone on that jury said s going to spill the tea… at least one wants a book/movie.

[@alexchiarella7422]

If we don’t have police, you don’t understand the craziness and the danger ⛔️ we all will be. Please go to 3 rd world country and see what truly happened when you don’t have a police 👮‍♀️. You will love the police. You have to be thankful for them. Not all police are bad.

[@oliviahancook5195]

,microdots has an actual interview with a friend of John OKeefe.Very eyeopening

[@JessSpouting]

@brandiChurchwell. WTF?!? You look so good! Well rested. Just amazing!

[@ljedie4636]

Brandi, are you aware of the case Officer John O’Keefe was working on?

[@Susan-tl3wr]

It wasn’t the grass or the kid or the Boston detective or the dog or the love struck ATF agent or the housewives or their kids There was never a piloette by the victim. Nobody looked away. These are part of a performance. it simply was the defendant. For those that gave their money to a paid activist hired by the defendant to create this you have been played. Look to the interviews in the initial part of this investigation and what was stated Nightline comes to mind.

[@Ksizzle316]

The one cop said not full damaged twice. Lucky 🍀 drove by multiple times n didn’t see a person. Those r eyewitnesses whereas other ppl r going off a hysterical drunk woman’s guilty cries trying to make sense of what happened.

[@blaiseblack7175]

Ive seen some people who hated their ex, so karen must be guilty. They ignored everything.

[@jeaniechampagne8831]

I want to add that the jury instructions were repetitive, long and murky, not even sure the law was explained per each charge and the judge said she would send in 2-3 copies to the jury room. Each Daybell juror each got a copy and those instructions were very clear. Maybe this is the reason for a hung jury, just guessing.