Crimewatch UK November 1997 and update

Nick Ross and Jill Dando present

[@joshuaedwards4536]

Welcome back Sir Redcard74, a true giant in KZbin crimewatch videos.......

[@gearoftones8585]

Does anyone else look up these cases on Google now to see how they concluded?

[@lesleywild8706]

Yes.

[@donny121able]

Anyone than find details could post the findings, be handy to know

[@lara_young]

I do. Frustratingly, more often than not, they remain unsolved.

[@pattymelt-go3fv]

Riddlesdown Common child rapist was a local pet shop owner, married. He was given 10 years in 1999. Police thought the sentence was too short and possibly appealed.

[@geordieal9187]

I know the Crossling brothers who shot at a man 5 or 7 times from Middlesbrough, the younger one went on to murder another man and Jason was cleared of a murder…

[@gearoftones8585]

Geez i had just turned 16 when this was aired. Scary. 1997 doesnt seem that long ago. I can remember what i was doing around that time in 1997.

[@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt]

I was 11 and today I’ve turned 38 oh my Xx

[@gearoftones8585]

@@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt scary isn't it? I know it's been said many times and is a bit of a cliche but time really does feel like it speeds up the older you get

[@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt]

@@gearoftones8585 Yes it’s kinda scary how fast time goes the sad case is Julie’s killer has never been caught Xx

[@LilyKittyCatto]

5 years before my birth

[@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt]

@@LilyKittyCatto Hi Xx

[@acostin4004]

The offender for the attack on schoolboys was Pet shop owner Paul Sullivan, 44 , he got a 10yr sentence.......

[@ianhunkin5384]

10 years ffs 😮😮😮 that's nothing

[@stephenholmes1036]

He is a monster

[@TheLeemccarthy]

The police profile of him was way off!

[@stephenholmes1036]

​​@@TheLeemccarthyit's was miles out, He wasn't stupid and ran a petshop in Catford.

[@stephenholmes1036]

​@@ianhunkin5384it was lengthened to 15 years.

[@samih5916]

I think the kid in the reconstruction at 2:17 was in a few episodes of the high school series Grange Hill two years after this episode broadcast on TV.

[@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt]

Poor Julie she had such a difficult life and then it was so cruelly ended rip Xxx😢😢😢

[@terryyakamoto3488]

My mam watched this religiously, she was desperate to ring in and grass a criminal up. She once claimed to have seen a wanted murderer in Middlesbrough bus station and even though the bloke was arrested about 300 miles away the same day, she still insisted it was him, waiting for the 28.

[@simonmcmullen1129]

Arsed

[@zeddeka]

Paul Sullivan was convicted of the attacks on the boys in 1999. He actually lived in Catford and owned a pet shop. The police did not initially consider him a good suspect because he was married - underlining how patchy offender profiling was back then (the 1990s were also when appalling mistakes wirh offender profiling led to a massive miscarriage of justice with the Rachel Nickell murder when Colin Stagg was wrongly convicted). Many infamous sex attackers have been married (Brian Field, a number of the Sidney Cooke gang, Steve Wright, and perhaps most famously Peter Sutcliffe). Paul Sullivan was only convicted when DNA samples were obtained.

[@stephenholmes1036]

Profiling is still poor and in Sullivan's case was appalling and put off many witnesses

[@terryyakamoto3488]

Psychological profiling has no scientific evidence base and is on a par with fortune telling. Lots of people seemed to think that TV drama Cracker was real, most worryingly, that included the police

[@ashleymartin4512]

the people involved in rescuing julie smith from the fire are real heroes...

[@motorsportandclassics7267]

Can anyone help I watched a old crime watch say proximity around 1991 92. It was about a post depo robbery up in Preston, but can I find it again 🤷🏻 If someone knows witch one I’m on about can you post link here 👍🏻

[@redcard7475]

Hi, We have all the Crimewatch episodes from 1991 and 1992 except Dec 92. I remember the Preston Natwest bank robbery but that was Nov 88 and the Morrisons robbery in Preston but that was 93-94. Can you remember anything else about the depo robbery, was it a full reconstruction?

[@RLAyousay]

Was it one where they stole cash and blew up a car?

[@RLAyousay]

I’ve been watching a few of these vids but only on this account and Damien mocato’s account.

[@nicolasobregon7101]

Does anybody know if the Surrey attacker was ever caught?

[@pattiegilmour8757]

Yes he was a 44 year old pet shop owner Paul Sullivan and only got 10 years which the police themselves were disgusted at.

[@nicolasobregon7101]

@@pattiegilmour8757 thanks so much for letting me know!

[@nicolasobregon7101]

@@pattiegilmour8757 Hard to believe he got off so lightly...

[@rockysablue]

Looked up the guy ...why arnt they showing his face on google?

[@BossySwan]

@@nicolasobregon7101 Surrey to hear that

[@cartimandua_]

I wish they'd find out who killed Jill Dando - who was herself murdered on her own doorstep.

[@user-rc9cd6fn4y]

They have. He was a govt assassin from some eastern European country.

[@NoirFan84]

Did they catch the killer of Julie Smith? Looked it up but couldn't find anything online. Surely they solved it, it sounded so clearly like an abusive ex.

[@am85x]

It's a weird one,. I can't see any appeals post 2011, no information about a trial after that point but in 2017 someone used a FOI request to ask for a list of unsolved murders from Humberside Police and Julie Smith's name wasn't included. It seems someone was arrested in the 90s and charged but the case was dropped due to issues with evidence, but even if the police were not looking for anyone else and the person is now deceased, I don't think the police would usually close a case?

[@AACE73]

So awful. Those poor children 😢 I wondered if someone *hired* "a friend" to get rid of Julie. The spray didn't have to say anything in words, could've just been a sign, as in, look out for the sprayed window aka "set fire here".

[@melinaesposito3434]

​@@AACE73All 5 children were taken away from her, there must have been very valid reasons for this. It's lucky the children were not in the house. Unfortunately these housing estates are full of dysfunctional people who get up to all sorts of criminality.

[@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt]

@@melinaesposito3434It’s really sad what happened to Julie I’m not saying it was right or wrong that her children were taken away from her but they had to grow up without her I’m hoping they and the family members that are still alive find out who committed this awful crime and they can some form of closure and she can finally b at peace Xx😢😢

[@ianbousfield1962]

Julie is played by Kate lonergan from Maid Marion and her merry men

[@SB-qc4qg]

The sex attacker didnt fit the profile all paul Sullivan was married and owned a pet shop. He initially got 10 yrs but this was increased to 15

[@pattymelt-go3fv]

good....can't find a photo. I like to see how closely they resemble the sketch.

[@zeddeka]

Profiling is such an inexact science. So many infamous sex offenders over the years have been married.

[@stephenholmes1036]

The profile was well out, They often are sadly

[@Browsingvids]

15 years is pathetic he should have got life. That creature is walking among us now and that’s scary.

[@zeddeka]

​@@pattymelt-go3fvthere are several of him on the British newspaper archives website which has lots of old newspaper articles, but requires a subscription. He didn't actually look bald in the photos, but I suppose he could have been wearing a hair piece. He looked a bit older and rougher than depicted.

[@ryanohara476]

18:15 another one of those creepy scary Crimewatch UK moments!

[@adamg1234]

They send pure shivers down my spine

[@Adz907]

What are the chances you ask a man for directions and he just so happens to be a child rapist. That kid had some unbelievably bad luck!

[@muk8804]

Horrific

[@laurallama73]

Don’t have nightmares.😁

[@LANCSKID]

Crass and meaningless catchphrase …

[@Paul1510WB]

Patrick Duggan was jailed for 13 years in 1998 for various serious offences against boys in care homes. He was actually 49 ...not in his fifties.

[@binlondon9685]

Attacking children is total low life.

[@johnsmith-rs2vk]

It 's all taken care of in jail !

[@CharlotteGreen-rt8pr]

Sick! Don't mess wid ny lads !!

[@flipdip8008]

It was Paul sullivan pet shop owner..so the copper was well off with his description

[@rosemaryoverell1375]

The musty smell might suit a pet shop tho

[@wrghty]

I hear too many times "in broad daylight" and just think the nerve on these scumbags

[@JonAleno-jx1vg]

The actress who played Julie smith looks familiar

[@drpsych4303]

EastEnders

[@JonAleno-jx1vg]

@ who did she play ?

[@BossySwan]

6:38 looks like a dodgy Thomas the Tank character

[@johnsmith-rs2vk]

Sorrrrrrry . No phone . What a couple of Wimps .

[@habibrohman-cq1us]

Russell murder finally some arrests.

[@invisibleray6987]

It was Mike Stone

[@LANCSKID]

My Ceefax is still not working. Nor is my dialup modem.

[@ScottDonnelly-t3c]

I thot periords were munflee

[@LANCSKID]

29:10 Holy Mother of God …

[@elviscool9822]

Those, boys said e smells musty maybe es willy alsotodo with es breath hiw frightening this happen to themthey would been trembling

[@acostin4004]

Pet shop owner Paul Sullivan, 44 was the offender..

[@Fuckethead]

Sorry about your stroke, fella

[@killieguyno1]

the boy got bummed!!!

[@flipdip8008]

please sir...can i have some more lol 😂

[@flipdip8008]

I bought one of those watches for my wife..she was chuffed with it..only paid £50 in a pub for it..bargain

[@flipdip8008]

Fruit of the loon...thats why jimmy savile always wore tracksuit bottoms..easy access lmao😂

[@fredflintstoner596]

Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"

[@LANCSKID]

“What about my bloody parrot?!”