Crimewatch UK - Tuesday 08 September 1998

[@interstat2222]

Thank you. Hard to believe these are showing up. It's almost Redcard all over again!

[@DamienMocata]

Thank you. it’s not as golden an era but I will be able to make a large dent in the currently missing on KZbin list.

[@strongcoffee7]

A nice shout out to the legend Redcard!

[@NoEurosJustGuilders]

We need 2002 /03/04 please

[@AndyGibsonTV]

Thank you so much for this, Damien. Amazing to have found you.

[@DamienMocata]

You flatter me Andy! I've just had the fortune to have found a box of tapes and the help of the Facebook group to get me going. Feel free to promote your group in the comments of these videos.

[@ryanohara476]

Oh Hi Andy always good to see hear from you! Yes I've been awaiting more uploads too! Thanks Damien! It'll be fantastic if you have February 1992 February 1994 and December 1992 and December 1994 onwards! No rush of course though!

[@ajs41]

@@DamienMocata Hi Damien, I'm going to add this show to my playlist, if that's okay. Andy

[@DamienMocata]

Of course it is Andrew. I'll have more coming as I upload them so feel free to add them as I release them. :)

[@ryanohara476]

Hi Andy Gibson it was you I was referring to on my original comment hope you are well somebody called Chris has just uploaded most of the Crimewatch UK episode from December 2003 the first few minutes are missing I did suggest if possible and if they can when they can of course. That both Damien and Chris could collerbarte, if they have the missing parts eg if Chris has the beginning of September 2003 that Damien hasn't got the beginning of that episode then it could be then be completed once edited.

[@tristanmorgan852]

Thanks for loading this up your work is very appreciated your time and effort making my day Thanks

[@DamienMocata]

Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@CGreen-hh6qk]

Thx u for your time in downloading these crimewatch episodes with i and i guess others havent seen these Before

[@StarBoyyX]

Thanks for taking the time to upload new crimewatch mate , much appreciated !!! I saw this and I new I was chilling 😂

[@ryanohara476]

Wow thanks Damien more CW UK!

[@LALakersNornIron]

Many thanks for uploading this Damien

[@strongcoffee7]

Julia Webbs murder is still unsolved. How awful. She just walked her dog.

[@feardheas4548]

these are new eps!! thank you so much Demien.

[@marge1112]

32:51 Ailsa Stewart from home and away

[@letsdiscussitoversometea8479]

She was also on the docudrama about Harold Shipman. She played the daughter of one of his victims whose will was suspiciously changed so that her house would go to him - just before she died in spite of her fit and active lifestyle.

[@lukewilly]

Bloke getting attacked and everyone on the bus just watching. Exactly the same back then as it is now just nowadays people film it on their phones

[@iainmahoney-q2y]

do you have the robbery at york city art gallery?

[@markdavidson9100]

Thanks for video…6.50 John Leeson, voice of K9 features again. He also played the father who was a supermarket manager, held with his family by gunmen in another reconstruction

[@michaelpout4798]

Those old mobile phones with aerials

[@strongcoffee7]

Oh some missing episodes thank you. Crimewatch fans reunite once again!

[@LALakersNornIron]

This episode as a child really stuck with me. The murder on the bus was absolutely shocking. A truly callous act against an innocent Christian man.

[@DamienMocata]

Yes, it’s mindless violence. Martin Gibbs was convicted (twice, original and in appeal) of the murder. He claimed diminished responsibility both times.

[@LALakersNornIron]

@@DamienMocata he was arrested the week after this appeal. Three names were forwarded,one of them seven times. When you look at his criminal record I'm not surprised police quickly realised he was their man.

[@asensibleyoungman2978]

What has being a Christian got to do with it?

[@LALakersNornIron]

@@asensibleyoungman2978 nothing innocent is innocent, I was just commenting Herbie was a devout Christian and by all accounts a lovely man and his faith was no doubt important to him and how he lived his life helping people.

[@craigobrien31]

Dont no weather u have an opinion ye th9nk Essex boys killers did it

[@letsdiscussitoversometea8479]

31:30 Bill Oddie 32:09 secret, unspoken shy admiration 32:31 baby face throwing it's bottle out 32:43 sushi kitchen chef 32:46 "Oh no, Mr. Miyagi!" 😩 (Mr. Miyagi's introspection) Yes. This guy's got a lot of expressions I really like. 🤣 Where exactly did they find him? Pity the man he played was such a b*stard in real life.

[@davidmountford3524]

Martin gibbs found guilty of herbies murder in 2003

[@lw3646]

Was the first case solved?

[@chrisjohn4605]

No, doesn't look like it

[@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt]

Martin Gibbs was convicted of Herbie Williams’s murder the jury just took an hour to find him guilty rip Mr Williams Xx😢

[@rw6817]

That was my mothers friend. RIP Herbie.

[@StarBoyyX]

What you reckon happened with the man and the coach , it’s possible he was run over and the keys placed next to him , they sound like they know he was on the coach to me and not saying for sure , I don’t know why they ever stopped this programme but it was deteriorating when jeremy vine did it and the reconstructions are nothing compared to this era start going down hill after 2011

[@tristanmorgan852]

Yes you are right about that it went down hill just before nick left because he kept it informative and understood not to dramatically do silly things like dark music to make it more scary. It was clear to listen to and find out what happened with clear information and how to help find out who did the crime

[@gujh03]

It went downhill after the 90s

[@buttonmoon1978]

Why didn't the police view the cctv footage from the shop where the lady was found unconscious.

[@asensibleyoungman2978]

10:22 50? He late 60s at best.

[@Ashs-mini-vlogs]

May god continue to grant herbie rest in jesus name

[@K12-s8i]

Thank you any Crimewatch from 2006 and 2007?

[@DamienMocata]

Yup! Stay tuned to my channel for new episodes on Monday nights. :)

[@paulpaxton3596]

Can you please upload the espiodes from 1988 to 1999 and more thanks you have made my day I'm crimewatch UK's biggest fan

[@rs-qt1qg]

they are already available?

[@Nixter1974007]

Poor Jill. RIP.

[@SuperTed19021]

32:34 *Sadly,* especially in today's even more broken world, it is best to pick our most certain battles.

[@LALakersNornIron]

Hi Damien do you happen to have June 2001?

[@DamienMocata]

Hi Robert! I don’t think so, but I will be uploading my entire collection as I find the tapes.

[@LALakersNornIron]

@@DamienMocata no worries and thank you for uploading this episode

[@shoaibashfaq233]

Does anyone know which cases still remain unsolved from this particular episode ?

[@cashcrop70]

Julia Webb for one.

[@shoaibashfaq233]

@@cashcrop70 how do you know ?

[@alistairbartlett6569]

@@shoaibashfaq233 There have been talks of possible links with the murders of Helen Fleet, Kate Bushell and Lyn Bryant, even though these Three murders took place in other parts of the country.

[@09weenic]

@@alistairbartlett6569 the link with the Kate Bushell murder was discounted

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

Did they get the rapist?

[@ianbennett1491]

Why did they stop putting crime watch on a night-time.

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

Just watched an episode of the recent ones with Michelle Ackerley. AWFUL! Rather watch these old classics any time. So would everyone else on here.

[@MsVanorak]

oh - thank you.

[@factorylad5071]

Any CW going back to December 1984/January 1985 and the Lisa Hession case?

[@Peter-ix1ym]

What happened to Lisa?

[@Peter-ix1ym]

@MulberryEllie that’s terrible

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

@MulberryEllie It was 1984!

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

@@Peter-ix1ym Was a comment deleted here? Two replies, but nought in between.

[@Peter-ix1ym]

@@treasurehunteruk9718 I’m not sure, very possible

[@alexpegler465]

I live near Sandiway. Completely pleasant cheshire village where nothing happens. Completely bizarre crime. Still unsolved.

[@interstat2222]

Julia Webb Sandiway murder seems like Helen Fleet, Kate Bushell and Lyn Bryant. I'm sure that was investigated at the time but does anyone else wonder why nothing came of it?

[@alexpegler465]

@@interstat2222 Very odd. In addition Julia Webb's brother in law was sent down in 2012 for trying to murder Julia's sister. Coincidence? Again this is incredibly bizarre and unlikely for this part of Cheshire.

[@julieteaston5829]

@@alexpegler465 that poor family. I hope they have moved on somehow. He more likely did it. It usually someone known to the victim.

[@alliehunkin5298]

@@interstat2222 I was at an adult education class with a wife of a Newquay;I’m in Cornwall… CID officer, many moons ago and she said, they’ll only catch lynne Bryant’s killer if he gets pulled up on say a traffic offence… which is disturbing… it shocked us here in Cornwall and I’ll never forget it … the similarities between lynn and kates murders are creepy, that was over the border in Devon … I will never forget those words … with regards to catching the killer … R.I.P ladies … utterly awful 😞

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

@@alliehunkin5298 Old cases have been solved with familial DNA. Like their son or nephew gets caught with bad driving etc.

[@jimvictory3307]

What does ‘shifty’ mean? A lot of these reconstruction show witnesses saying so and so was looking ‘shifty’ but what does that mean??

[@1975ukandbored]

Dodgy… up to no good

[@gujh03]

suspicious, strange.

[@MsVanorak]

furtive

[@ShakepearesDaughter]

I think it originates with the old-fashioned idea that an honest person will always look you in the eyes---and that a person up to no good will avoid your glance, look immediately away---with their eyes generally darting around to quickly take in their circumstances and look for their opportunity to steal something or seek an escape route. "Shifty eyes"

[@MsVanorak]

@@ShakepearesDaughter i can't look people in the eye when they are lying to me! where i'm at in life a lot of people think i'm autistic!

[@LALakersNornIron]

Do you happen to have September 1997 mate?

[@DamienMocata]

I've posted all the episodes that I've found so far over on Andy Gibson's Crimewatch Chat on Facebook. No 1997 episodes yet, but I still have family tapes to check so hopefully it shows up!

[@LALakersNornIron]

@@DamienMocata cheers mate. Gentleman.

[@carina914]

@@DamienMocata Hi I can't see a Crimewatch chat group on FB do you have a link please?

[@DamienMocata]

@@carina914 Hey Carina, it’s fb.com/groups/CrimewatchChat

[@carina914]

@@DamienMocata brilliant thanks!

[@carina914]

Herbie :(

[@daniellebishop2990]

sooo sad xx

[@davidmountford3524]

Martin gibbs found guilty of herbies murder in 2003

[@marge1112]

2:51 rate my takeaways

[@Alessiasbackheal]

No

[@letsdiscussitoversometea8479]

"Right then guys, how are you doing? Back on the ROAD again!" I can see the resemblance at least! :)

[@peteglobe23]

1.08 the 8IG RAT arrives

[@anthsaccasan5135]

Died just because he told off the man for disposing a bottle out of the window it would have been better to have said nothing

[@09weenic]

Sounds like you are blaming Mr Williams 😩

[@letsdiscussitoversometea8479]

​@@09weenic sounds like he's speaking of caution!... You just can't say anything to people nowadays. If you do, someone could pull out a knife, and that's it. This was a pivotal moment in having to keep your mouth shut in order to avoid getting into danger. If I ever saw that man Gibbs, I honestly don't know what I'd do if I was in a room alone with him - suffice to say, that we wouldn't leave on better terms than we were before I walked in. And I know that's really not good (or Christian) of me, but maybe it might get him to see what he's done to those around him - words seemed not to reach him, therefore, actions may be more appropriate. Maybe as a last resort...

[@tonymccarthy7190]

@Let's discuss it over some tea I remember watching this at the time. Moved to London in 2010. There was a big kick off on a bus going through Lewisham, Peckham, Camberwell in 2011. I wanted to step in but didn't, because I remembered this incident. I felt like a coward not doing anything, but not risking getting stabbed 😒

[@mad-pit3832]

@@tonymccarthy7190 Its not cowardly mate, 10 times as many people carry knifes these days so its just not worth it. Unless a man hurst your family and your willing to be the first person to use a knife you cant win.

[@Purewood357]

London is a dangerous third world country

[@lnteIIigence]

He had small, stubby hands? Donald?

[@antagaye-hw5wc]

Do you know good says optical good? You should call police if I see my neighbours. Is not home or some guy acting funny like the alcohol police because there are so many criminals. How many bad people in this country? He accomplished straight away. Need a lot of criminal about checking their chicken. With a somebody you know Alfie. Like Micah, that what Michael do when she comes around in the middle of the night?Checking whether somebody is around

[@italianstallion9170]

I noticed the perps of the crime dramatically changed in appearance, oddly coincided with Tony Blair's open door policy from May 97..?!

[@adilabbas8628]

There's always one. And today it's you. Grow up son

[@teutonicAnon]

@@adilabbas8628 brown fingers typed this

[@teutonicAnon]

bang on the money Mario, never relax around blacks

[@hannahhopkinson9044]

People " on drugs " dont normally knife people through the heart , what a stupid comment. Nick Ross' comments about him being "psychotic" are also hugely outdated too .... Eurgh,the good old 90s 😖

[@Ashs-mini-vlogs]

Snowflake detected

[@mad-pit3832]

How horrible for that lad to find his mother like that. Id of got rid of the dog after that, they are intelligent enough to know when you are being attacked, so i just dot see the point in having a dog that wont at least look after you when you have protected it all its life.

[@booers79]

That's a bit harsh. Not everyone wants dogs just for protection.

[@Romanplaystation]

​@@booers79Look at their profile pic, and name. #facepalm. 😂

[@jenniferkelly5897]

You did not just say that. What a disgusting, heartless comment.

[@lnteIIigence]

Ok 🤡

[@ruthbashford3176]

The dog was a pet, not a guard dog