Crimson Tide (1995) First Time Watching! Movie Reaction!!

Crimson Tide (1995)
In my humble opinion, in the nuclear world, the true enemy is war itself.
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[@juhawks37]

Gene Hackman is a legend. The guy could play just about any role.

[@samantha_schmitt]

Absolutely!

[@jamiehill3621]

I love how Gene Hackman has always stood by his casting decisions. Like some celebrities are like oh no I passed on that I regret it but he's like if he doesn't feel himself in the role its a no and he just sticks by it.

[@gutz1981]

I think he has just about play every role.

[@johnnyjohnny2650]

"They're fueling their missiles, we don't have time to fuck around!" His old man rage is on point.

[@proudamerican6820]

@@samantha_schmitt YOU SHOULD WATCH THE FRENCH CONNECTION.

[@Cagon415]

"Don't act like you're all friends. Half of you should go to jail." I laughed way too hard at that 🤣

[@samantha_schmitt]

😂😂

[@larsdetering8996]

Right you are.

[@gutz1981]

FYI, COB is not his person name, its his position (Chief Of The Boat)

[@johnsteward9137]

So this is loosely related to an incident that occurred on a Russian sub during the Cuban Missile Crisis. The Russian sub was being pursued by US ships and due to both damage and the depths they were at while hiding they were out of contact with both Russia and pretty much the rest of the world for a few days. The captain of that sub and the Soviet political officers assumed that war had broken out due to the Cuban Missile Crisis and wanted to launch their weapons at US ships. The XO on the ship didn't and wanted to surface to re-establish contact. Thankfully they needed all 3 officers to agree to launch and ended up surfacing prior to anything really happening.

[@AI_Image_Master]

Yes this is true. Similar type of thing happened in the 80's. Soviet system detected a launch of several missiles from the US. The commander decided not to send the information up the chain of command who would have instantly called for a strike against the US as was their protocol.

[@samantha_schmitt]

Oh no way! Thanks for sharing

[@hwondsel]

@@samantha_schmitt His name was Vasili Arkhipov and he prevented WWIII.

[@haroldcruz8550]

That's why goading a nuclear capable nation with 6k nukes to war is a very stupid idea. Victoria Nuland and Biden's adventure in Ukraine comes to mind.

[@knowshistory8740]

Which give Hunters line, that this happened before 32 years ago a special meaning. He referes to DefCon 2 but the idea, that a similar situation happened on a soviet boat kinda gives away the plot of the movie - only nobody realises it.

[@tomarnold7284]

Best thing I like was that there was no villain, both protagonists had their reasons. The way music and editing built tension was awesome.

[@samantha_schmitt]

Ooh So true! You can’t go wrong with Hans Zimmer

[@genghisgalahad8465]

One of them was right.....about the Lippizaner horses!

[@brycenherman7133]

You should watch hunter killer is a Submarine movie too

[@tomarnold7284]

@@brycenherman7133 "Hunter Killer" was pretty bad, the story was so unconvincing. I suggest "Hunt for Red October"

[@isaacdepaula2103]

Radchenko was the villain

[@rafaelalandrade]

The Admiral on the review board at the end was Jason Robards, legitimately one of the greatest actors of all time.

[@jp3813]

I think the movie made the point that Ramsey & Hunter genuinely like each other outside of the sub. But underwater, their perceptions of each other started to sour after Hunter said that "the enemy is war itself" and later on when Ramsey ran a drill immediately after the kitchen fire. This is one of those intense "acting duel" films like Heat or Face/Off where two legendary actors go toe-to-toe and it's difficult to say who had the better performance. Definitely go through more of Tony Scott's filmography: Top Gun, Days of Thunder, Enemy of the State, Spy Game, etc... Also, this is Hans Zimmer's best score, imo.

[@patinho5589]

IMO zimmers best score is The Last Samurai.

[@jp3813]

@@patinho5589 Legit contender.

[@rustyforceps1012]

Wow. I never knew all those movies were directed by Scott! “Man on Fire” was another awesome movie I didn’t know he did until a quick IMDB search.

[@jp3813]

@@rustyforceps1012 In case you didn't know, he was also the brother of Ridley Scott (Alien, Blade Runner, Thelma & Louise, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down, etc...).

[@mountainbikemayhem1833]

Mississippi Burning…Gene Hackman, Willem Dafoe, Frances McDormand, all legends

[@orlandoruizjr3834]

The tension in this movie is so well done. This is one of Tony Scott's best films.

[@samantha_schmitt]

So good! Looking forward to more Tony Scott on the channel!

[@orlandoruizjr3834]

If you go down the Tony Scott rabbit hole, he directed the first TOP GUN from 1986. A great Bruce Willis action comedy from 1991, The Last Boyscout. You've already reacted to TRUE ROMANCE. That was also one of his best. One that I think the two of you would absolutely love is SPY GAME from 2001, starring Brad Pitt and Robert Redford. Looking forward to your next reactions. Side note, for your Stallone series, 1989's LOCK UP has one of Sly's best performances, as well as a film he did in 2000 where he plays a gangster out to avenge his brother's death, called GET CARTER. Very underrated. Please keeps these reactions coming. I love everything you guys do and I'm always there for it. Always the best part of my day. Thank you.

[@rxtsec1]

@@orlandoruizjr3834 spy game and days of thunder to me are 2 underrated Tony Scott gems and yes i'm glad you mentioned Get Carter (I mentioned that on there Copland review and thought I was the only one) also very underrated

[@lexij2497]

one of the last films he made is Domino with Keira Knightley and Mickey Rourke... it's about bounty hunters and genuinely nuts

[@rxtsec1]

@@lexij2497 i never watched it but the real life Domino was the son of a actor who I liked. he was in the original Manchurian Candidate and a episode of Colombo (one of my favorite tv shows)

[@44excalibur]

Fun Fact: Quentin Tarantino was hired by director Tony Scott to do an uncredited rewrite of the dialogue in the film. Scott had previously directed Tarantino's True Romance script.

[@TheTcwalton]

Tarantino added the Silver Surfer & Star Trek dialogue IIRC.

[@eatsmylifeYT]

HAHAHAHAHAAAA!

[@jp3813]

@@eatsmylifeYT 😕

[@Cinerary]

Really? I didn’t hear 10 N words in dialogue. Maybe Tarantino was trying to be polite

[@jp3813]

@@Cinerary Denzel reportedly confronted him about his use of the N word in his movies.

[@Flesharrower]

Gotta catch Denzel in Training Day, Oscar winning performance.

[@pokes404]

That Dinner scene with all of the officers might be one of my Top 5 favorite scenes in a blockbuster movie. You get some good characterization for all of the supporting characters, but the interaction between Denzel and Gene is top notch. I love the setup that Ramsey was someone who only needed to "know how to push the button ... they'll tell me when." It makes sense that once he's given the go-ahead to launch, he gets tunnel vision. Pushing that button and carrying out his orders is the only thing that matters. Hunter, on the other hand, is someone who wants to know the "why" of a situation. He's constantly evaluating the situation and looking at the big picture on the consequences of their actions/non-actions. It really establishes the unstoppable force/immovable object dynamic that carries through the rest of the film. Also, I'll never forget the line, "In the Nuclear World ... the true enemy is war itself." It's a mark of a good thriller when a movie can have some pretty memorable action scenes, yet the scene that sticks out most to me is a bunch of guys talking at a Dinner table.

[@BillKrayer12thMan]

"They ask me?By all means,sir. Drop that fucker... twice." My favorite line in the movie.

[@gutz1981]

I get the biggest chill when Hunter says "Our Target Package could have changed." I mean, that is a bigger valid point. The message could say where the better target now is, and you wouldn't know and waste the attack anyway.

[@S_047]

Can never go wrong with a movie with Denzel in it

[@jkhoover]

Uhm... There are a couple of Denzel movies that you can go wrong with.

[@S_047]

@@jkhoover enlighten me.

[@joemckim1183]

Denzel Washington, Gene Hackman, James Gandolfini and Viggo Mortensen.

[@jkhoover]

@@S_047 Virtuosity Fallen The Siege Devil In A Blue Dress The Preacher's Wife Deja Vu Plus a few others that nobody's ever heard of.

[@trhansen3244]

Not entirely true. But please don't call me racist.

[@yg713]

I recognized the actor who plays the character fixing the radio. He was a co-star in a great Mob movie called "A Bronx Tale" I wish you get to add it your polls at one point. Robert DeNiro and Joe Pesci are also in the movie but with supporting roles.

[@rightwired]

One of my dearest friends is a Navy lifer, who's been on a sub the entire 20+ years...mostly at Sonar. He says that this is actually the most accurate sub movie ever made.

[@chadwickvon8019]

"John Q" is another really good Denzel movie.

[@mmmmmduffbeer]

The thing I love about this movie is that Ramsey is fighting to save 50,000,000+ people and Hunter is fighting to make sure they don't accidentally kill 500,000,000+ people. When Ramsey is holding a gun to the seaman's head, he is doing it to save Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, etc. Really, how far is too far with stakes that high? Also, I love the look on Ramsey's face when he's pointing the gun at one person is so much more pained than when he's pulling the trigger to launch nukes.

[@keithbrown8490]

Another classic cold war submarine movie you might check out is 1968's "Ice Station Zebra". Directed by veteran action movie director John Sturges(1960's"The Magnificent Seven, 1962's "The Great Escape")

[@georgemorley1029]

Good film, but the main theme always struck me as far too sunny and jolly for the plot.

[@unwokeneuropean3590]

The longest day .... A bridge too far.... The Great Escape... I love oldies ww2 movies.

[@jeffreyjeziorski1480]

The Enemy Below.....Robert Mitchum, Kurt Jorgenson The Bedford Incident...Richard Widmark, Sidney Poitier Run Silent, Run Deep...Clark Gable, Burt Landcaster Operation Petticoat....Cary Grant, Tony Curtis Yellow Submarine.....The Beatles(cartoon version)

[@WhatIInk]

In the "sub" genre, "Ice Station Zebra" is as good as it gets. Patrick McGoohan does Oscar-worthy work.

[@coreyhendricks9490]

Excellent movie and great performances by Gene Hackman & Denzel Washington, cool reaction as always Schmitt & Samantha, you both take care

[@joeconcepts5552]

I love how at certain points in this movie both characters are right. Though in the end, Hackman’s character was first out of line to scream and swear at his XO in front of everyone. And then his attempt to remove him was wrong and illegal. Otherwise, their argument over the orders/cancelled orders isn’t black and white.

[@shainewhite2781]

5:45, that's right,and what he says is true: "The Real Enemy Is War Itself."

[@SnabbKassa]

the only winning move is not to play

[@unknownsword9042]

Lol, until you are near starving to death. War is only the enemy when you have a stable society that decently provides for its people.

[@dougearnest7590]

@@SnabbKassa What is that blue and gold thing beside your name? Is that one of those "I stand with Ukraine" symbols? Didn't Ukraine choose to "play" -- to go to war rather than allow itself to be taken over without a fight? Do you see any sort of logical inconsistency in that ?

[@DocMicrowave]

@@SnabbKassa How about a nice game of Chess?

[@matthintz9468]

The dynamic between Hackman and Washington is amazing. I always wanted to see these two in an alternet universe doing A Few Good Men to see what that would look like. Hackman would've made a very terrifying Jessup. For his effort, Washington would make a wonderful Kaffee, although with less of the playfulness Cruise brought to the role. If you want to see a very good, but underrated film, where James Gandolfini stars in an authoritarian role, check out The Last Castle, where he stars opposite Robert Redford as a military prison warden.

[@danwood4171]

Interesting you mention that. While Jessup crossed the line in terms of lying and the cover up his tough treatment of the men is the way you build toughness. I never saw anything that made me think that he knew the young guy had a heart problem. Except for the lying/cover up I saw both sides as being someone equal tragic as it was. I could have never handled a guy like Jessup as I question too much but having someone like that stand watch and train men they way he does is effective.

[@offspringfan1288]

Dang I never thought of this… I also read that Crimson Tide was originally written for Brad Pitt (Hunter) and Al Pacino to star as Ramsey. Again, in an alternate universe that would have been interesting to see!!!

[@jp3813]

@@danwood4171 Jessup was informed of Santiago's symptoms but ignored it. Tough treatment is one thing, denying an informant of a transfer is another. He chooses to operate within his own system whereas Ramsey is obsessed w/ following orders.

[@danwood4171]

@@jp3813 I tired easily long ago always in the very back of the runners in high school with the plump kids even though I was skinny. Eventually exercise overcame that. Could Jessup differentiate at that time that a heart condition was involved vs that subtle line of someone needing to push them selves more. You might be right but I don't recall the exact nuance of that part of the movie.

[@shiranuiaensland1442]

@@danwood4171 You cannot compare high school to the military. The reason you overcame your weaknesses is because you did not have Santiago's condition, which led him into betraying Dawson in a desperate attempt to get transferred. Doctors diagnose patients, colonels do not. Markinson saw the trouble coming, but Jessup just would not listen to anyone around him.

[@twoheart7813]

They had The ELF, extremely low frequency Antenna stretched across Northern Wisconsin & a part of Michigan's upper peninsula. It was around 85 miles long & was used to transmit signals to subs for many years basically resonating through the Earth instead of the atmosphere where normal radio communications take place.. Do to concern over what that much power would do to people & the environment it was eventually shut down. Subs communicate via satellites now.

[@fester2306]

The Silver Surfer conversation was written by Quentin Tarantino.

[@offspringfan1288]

Fun fact. Both Unstoppable and Man on Fire were directed by Tony Scott as well! He also made Crimson Tide and True Romance.

[@eatsmylifeYT]

HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!

[@Daywalker_27]

You left out Top Gun

[@kingscorpion7346]

I served in the Navy during the mid 1980's, and I was part of the damage control team on my ship. and though i didn't serve on a submarine, during situations a lot of information is passed through the chain of command that would make your head spin. For certain situations, I was positioned in Damage Control Central where the Chief Engineer and other officers and enlisted kept updated information regarding any damage to the ship and how that damage is being taken care of. then that information is passed on to the CO in CIC, where ALL information is readily available to the CO on any tactical situation outside the ship as well as inside the ship. that's why our sailors have to be well trained to do their jobs. and submarines are even more so, as they are in a submerged, pressurized metal container, hundreds of feet below the surface of the ocean!

[@tomarnold7284]

It takes balls of steel to work in a submarine, living in claustrophobic environment, with water pressure and air being the constant threat, someone I can never do, and never understand why one would choose to work in a submarine.

[@mrtim5363]

& I in the early 70s. Wanted Subs but my Capt sent me over for a day & I banged my head every time I turned around. Turns out I'm about 2 inches too tall for my era subs. The best part for me was the Chief saying F-you I did it because Navy regulations say he cannot do that! That's a Navy man!!

[@jamestimothy9805]

Thirteen Days which is a film about the Cuban missile crisis is definitely worth a watch as well. similar tension around misunderstandings and not having the full picture to make critical decisions on.

[@TrequartistaFM]

👍 Bruce Greenwood as JFK is perfectly cast

[@CJ87317]

One of my favorite films from 1995. I saw it in the theater and was blown away.

[@jowbloe3673]

For another James Gandolfini movie you should watch *The Last Castle* with Robert Redford.

[@ams914]

The guy who wrote this movie was one of my Screenwriting professors in college. He was a cool, no BS east coast guy. Mike Schiffer. This movie has so many incredible dialogue exchanges in it. Really holds up.

[@nluna75]

Tarantino did an uncredited rewrite as a favor to Tony Scott (directed true romance), the 2 scenes he wrote that were left in the final movie were the scene in the beginning where Gandolfini is talking about movies and the scene about the Silver Surfer.

[@ams914]

@@nluna75 I didn't know that, in retrospect that doesn't sound like Mike, hahaha. Very nerdy and a Tarantino type of move.

[@DSmith264]

A couple of reaction worthy Denzel pics would be 'Training Day' and Fallen,' with John Goodman.

[@n0tk0sher]

Definitely. Although I never want to see Traning Day again, could only handle that one once.

[@acegamer5082]

Fallen is sooooo good

[@lolmao500]

4 amazing movies with Viggo you guys should watch : Eastern Promises, The Road, Green Book and History Of Violence.

[@chriswilkinson9074]

I'd love to see their reactions to A History of Violence!!

[@tolkienismaster]

Eastern Promises is amazing. G.I. Jane is a nice watch also.

[@aaronlynch6895]

History of violence very underrated and not enough recognition

[@scottjo63]

And of course Viggo's newest movie, Crimes Of The Future (2022). A comeback for both actor and David Cronenberg, director of such movies, Scanners, Videodrome and of course the remake of The Fly. A movie I'm looking forward to.

[@scottjo63]

@@aaronlynch6895 and the late great William Hurt!!

[@carlosrvra]

A) GREAT flick! B) I recommend U-571 as your next submarine flick. Also, STAR TREK 2: THE WRATH OF KAHN as another great submarine (-like) flick.

[@DocMicrowave]

Lol, Star Trek WOK was absolutely a submarine flick in spirit. Best Trek movie!

[@kinardak]

ohhh yea, love Denzel. I actually met him a year after he won best actor for "Training Day". His movies in the 2,000's are dope. But his movies before 2,000 like this one, are his best, in my opinion. My top picks of his would be "Mo Better Blues", "Malcolm X", "Devil in the Blue Dress", "Fallen" and "Glory".

[@IntenseSarcasm]

Do you guys plan on watching Deja Vu? Its another Denzel Washington/Tony Scott film, highly recommend!

[@steveg7378]

Gene Hackman is probably the most underrated actor ever, legendary and one of the best of all time.

[@uosdwiSrdewoH]

Speaking of the Cuban Missile Crisis, there's an amazing movie called Thirteen Days that deals with that very event. We all know how it turned out which makes it all the more impressive that the movie is so gripping from start to finish. It shows just how close the world came to World War 3. It's got Bruce Greenwood as JFK and Kevin Costner as his best friend and top advisor. You should absolutely check it out if you're interested in what happened during those Thirteen Days.

[@ronniefromOR]

Love this one

[@chefskiss6179]

Great watch with the two of you again. Man, seeing Jason Robards at the end there residing over the committee... wow, so many incredible performances flashed in my mind. I hope you two try All the President's Men (1976) someday.

[@r.g.o3879]

A slightly older sub film is Enemy Below with Robert Mitchum and Curt Jurgens. Run Silent Run Deep and Hunt for Red October.

[@gregall2178]

It just hit me watching your reaction, but Denzel and Jason Robards shared the screen in Philadelphia 🙂 A couple suggestions for some of the actors... Denzel and James Gandolfini - Fallen James Gandolfini - The Mexican Gene Hackman - Mississippi Burning Lillo Brancato (comms) - A Bronx Tale (with DeNiro) George Dzundza - No Way Out (in a supporting role, as usual) Steve Zahn - Employee Of The Month (with Matt Dillon)

[@sparky6086]

For Gene Hackman, "The French Connection" is a must see.

[@yankeesfan3961]

Did you all see "Tony Soprano" in this movie too??? LOL. This movie was before that iconic TV show. :)

[@powerbad696]

Glad you guys decided to watch this GREAT film !!!! I watched this movie at the cinema in 1995,I was clutching my arm rest the entire movie !!! Tony Scott was a great film director and producer,his other films are,TOP-GUN,Days of Thunder and Beverly Hills Cop 2. Scott's net-worth was 200 million dollars,he was also british.He died at the age of 68,it was suicide,he jumped from a Los Angelos County Bridge. SO SAD. Loved you guys reactions,you really enjoyed the movie and I enjoyed re-watching it with you.

[@PapaEli-pz8ff]

I also saw this film back in 1995.. at the Kings Plaza multiplex in my native Brooklyn, NY. In fact, that was the very last time I went to "the movies". The tension is still there whenever I watch this film. Excellent choice and great reactions as usual 👍

[@powerbad696]

@@PapaEli-pz8ff The funny thing,Papa,I was in the army in 1995,at my first duty station-Ft Hood,Tx-1st Cav Div-home unit-HHC 2/8 Cav.A year and 8 months prior to 1995,I was in the navy,stationed at Nas Oceana,Va.Bch,Va. I was in an attack squadron-VF-84 ( Jolly-Rogers) attached to the airwing aboard the USS Roosevelt,an aircraft carrier. I did 4 yrs navy and 7 yrs army. GO-ARMY& NAVY !!!!! LOL.

[@FRACTUREDVISIONmusic]

Tony Scott some say, did not commit suicide. He was "convinced" to leave the bridge where the river was far below him. "Enemy of the State" produced some enemies who chose to catch up with him and stop him from the making public information that presented itself to him. Information that certain Federal agencies didn't was exposed. Conspiracy theory? Indeed. Research it. Just because something is a conspiracy, doesn't mean it's hogwash - Watergate was a conspiracy theory before we knew it really was a conspiracy. Tony Scott, sadly, became of interest to elements of our government, because he was digging deeper into issues of corruption at the level of the entire World Stage. Some say, these elements simply deleted his sleuthing by deleting him.

[@penoyer79]

Quentin Tarantino did some work on the screenplay... polishing some of the dialogue as a favor to Tony Scott. Tarantino added some bits of his own: including the Silver Surfer bit and the discussion about the horses.

[@joeconcepts5552]

Wouldn’t be surprised if that Star Trek reference came from him, too.

[@aleatharhea]

Denzel was in "Philadelphia" with Tom Hanks. Definitely worth a watch.

[@gregall2178]

And Jason Robards ;-)

[@ricklee5387]

I agree ☝️

[@athos1974]

👍

[@juhawks37]

A very very, very important movie, Philadelphia.

[@aleatharhea]

@@juhawks37 Agreed!

[@ghenry4513]

This is such a great movie. I feel like it's very underrated because very few people talk about it. If you liked this one from Tony Scott, also check out Enemy of the State if you haven't already seen it. It's another Tony Scott action thriller and a banger.

[@mapesdhs597]

And of course, also has Hackman in it. :D

[@PapaEli-pz8ff]

In my opinion, great films do not need to be validated by the size of their audiences. Just saying..

[@TrequartistaFM]

Enemy of the state is a great film

[@mypl510]

Don't forget that Tony Scott also directed Top Gun

[@shanwyn]

The amazing part for me was always that in theory, both of them were in the right. And, from what I understand of military law and structure, Gene Hackman's character could not be blamed if he launched. For me, that makes the movie so much better. It's a struggle between two right. One is following the chain of command, the other is following your moral compass and common sense

[@PurushaDesa]

- This is tied with 1991's _The Last Boy Scout_ as my favourite Tony Scott effort. - It marks one of many collaborations between Scott and Washington. - You can spot Quentin Tarantino's script embellishments in the extravagant pop culture references.

[@joeconcepts5552]

One of the biggest losses to acting was when Gene Hackman decided to retire from acting.

[@felipepineda1585]

You saw how old he was in enemy of the state. While I totally agree with your comment, it was about that time for him

[@MikeWilsonBarrett]

Well he is almost in his mid 90's now. So way past retirement age.

[@v8matey]

My favourite Denzel Washington movies. Training day. Bone collector. Man on fire. American Gangster. The Book of Eli. Fallen. Philadelphia. The taking of Pelham 123. Crimson tide. The siege. Courage under fire. The Equalizer

[@trhansen3244]

He robbed Russell Crowe for Best Actor. Crowe should have won that easily.

[@athos1974]

"The Hurricane" Loved Denzel in that movie.

[@csmelen]

Gene Hackman could make folding laundry legendary. I can’t remember a movie Hackman didn’t give an Oscar winning performance. The man is a legend imho.

[@Cadinho93]

You guys should react to… The French Connection (1971) It's Gene Hackman at his best! 🎥👌

[@marcuscato9083]

Amen. A truly amazing movie.

[@brad1092]

Still probably the best cop movie of all time.

[@bigbow62]

"Did you ever pick your feet in Poughkeepsie" 😆😆😆 Gene Hackman is the best & a riot in the French Connection 😎👍

[@mapesdhs597]

Interesting thing about the main car chase sequence in that film, the commentary (I think the director, forget offhand) says they didn't tell the city authorities quite exactly what they were planning to do, as they thought permission would not have been granted, because it was a tad dangerous. Wonderful film; I have the sequel sitting still sealed on a shelf, waiting a rainy day and the right mood to watch both in turn. :D

[@ronniefromOR]

And Mississippi burning

[@top_gallant]

The cooks were making PB&J when the galley fire occurred. One of them used the back of a table spoon to spread jelly causing the initial spark catching the peanut butter on fire. They should have used a Naval Butter Knife (N.B.K.) that is coated with anti flammable material.

[@andrewmadeloni7173]

For an earlier excellent submarine related film, "The Bedford Incident" with Sidney Poitier and Richard Widmark. (Cold War)

[@FireflyPDP]

For an excellent submarine film, I’d recommend ANY submarine film. For some reason they’re all excellent lol

[@andrewmadeloni7173]

@@FireflyPDP "Run Silent, Run Deep" with Lancaster and Gable (small part for Don Rickles as well)

[@slaythegodz]

You also saw Denzel in Glory.

[@Energetiker]

classic Jerry Bruckheimer movie. on a completely different note: "Roger Rabbit", "Chinatown", "Moulin Rouge", "The Sting"

[@ryanhampson673]

One cool fact, the way they get the emergency action message is from two buried cables in northern Michigan and Wisconsin called the ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) array. The cables send a signal which is then amplified by the granite rocks in the area and it can send a signal to a sub underwater anywhere on the planet.

[@samuelsims5522]

Great reaction, great film. Hackman and Washington are at the top of their game with this one. I would recommend also checking out the films Denzel won awards for, "Glory" and "Training Day".

[@marcfromparis333]

Glory is already done by them

[@ronniefromOR]

Oh Yeah training day for sure

[@rockabye274]

Malcolm X is my favorite Denzel movie, although I also Crimson Tide and a few others with him in it.

[@Aurich88]

Considering the navy wouldn't work with this film's production (because the plot depicts a mutiny), they did an amazing job with the sets, costumes, and the procedures/litany.

[@barak1840]

One of the best movies ever made. Music, Plot, Characters and Tension. PERFECT in every way

[@user-dz6fy6qv2l]

Two of my all-time favorite actors in the same movie. My uncle was in the Navy at the time and it's one of his favorite movies.

[@jondebenedict7315]

No joke, I literally just re-watched this movie for the first time in years yesterday, what are the odds. Awesome movie, love your reaction and discussion as always. :)

[@ftrevino4493]

The interchange of Denzel and Gene is sooooo good. One of favorite scenes.

[@TheMarcHicks]

As so often is the case, Hanz Zimmer's amazing score really elevates this movie even further.

[@jayge17]

I have a cousin in the navy, and once I asked him, out of all the submarine movies out there, which one is the most realistic in terms of the feel of being in a sub, he said Crimson Tide. This is one of my favorites, a great film where there isn't really a villian, just competing beliefs, both parties believing they're right. I recommend The Rock from 1996, similar feeling to this film, except a lot more action. And if you guys like Denzel, STRONGLY recommend Training Day (2001) and Flight (2012)

[@elbryan9]

I served aboard one of these boats (USS Alaska SSBN 732 Blue) from 2000 to 2005 and I'm sorry, there is so much wrong with this movie that there is almost nothing that's realistic. Don't get me wrong, it's a fun popcorn movie and great entertainment, but it's not a very accurate movie. Not by a long shot. Most of the guys regarded this as the least accurate of submarine movies.

[@jayge17]

Huh, maybe my cousin was full of crap, I don't know. I'll have to ask him..

[@jayge17]

How about U-571?

[@promontorium]

I was never on a sub (3 ships of 3 classes though), but I had to laugh at some of the really "serious" scenes in this move that were just way over the top. For better or worse, sailors don't take themselves nearly as seriously as portrayed. There's professionalism, but people still joke and screw around to let off steam. Every sailor I've heard who was on a sub has said Down Periscope is the most realistic sub movie they've seen. Even people with a stick up their ass don't usually go around yelling at subordinates.

[@jediradekcrif9568]

Yesss Man on Fire is a must!! Same director as this...the great Tony Scott...

[@gustonzimasheen]

8:20: If Cooper Dog was onboard, he would be Viggo's best friend

[@shaungarrett3938]

I'm so glad you chose this. One of my favorite movies of all time.

[@vincentjoyce5100]

Another type of sea adventure, The Poseidon Adventure, with another sterling performance by Hackman. How many more lives?!

[@michaelatteberry6462]

I saw this in a theater with other vet friend and we all agreed this was the most intense film we had ever seen to date. The actors and the filmography were outstanding.

[@kingseb2252]

Omg so lucky i only discovered this movie today I'd give anything to watch it in cinema

[@tylerfoster6267]

"The Sopranos" is great, but two great lesser-known Gandolfini movies are the hilarious political satire In the Loop (from the creator of "Veep," and a spin-off of his UK TV show that's kind of like the father of "Veep," "The Thick of It"), and Enough Said, the final movie he made, a rom-com (coincidentally starring "Veep" and "Seinfeld" star Julia Louis Dreyfus).

[@LacTV-videos]

A note about this film that you guys may enjoy is that Tarantino was brought in to punch up the script. You can really tell his influences on it with the geek culture references etc.

[@sparky6086]

That's right. The "Silver Surfer" conversation was straight up Tarantino!

[@LacTV-videos]

@@sparky6086 the horses convo, gene hackmans devil/angels speech, old movie quiz in the bus. heaps of tarantino stuff in there.

[@sparky6086]

@@LacTV-videos Tarantino definitely is a master of realistic dialogue!

[@victorsos100]

Great movie period!!!! I can also recommend The Quick and The Dead for a real good Western movie with Gene Hackman.

[@aronh4885]

And Lance Henrikson, Leonardo Dicaprio, Sharon Stone & Russell Crow, directed by Sam Raimi

[@RossIsFine]

Now yall should see "What about Bob?" You'll have the BEST time. One of the funniest movies ever made.

[@davidbeck7615]

No shade but in the category of funniest of all time? 🤔 I guess comedy is truly subjective.

[@trhansen3244]

it's not as funny as Ruthless People.

[@RossIsFine]

@@trhansen3244 Yep Funnier.

[@RossIsFine]

@@davidbeck7615 Ok then, one of the best Bill Murray comedies lol

[@esclad]

Fantastic movie, sublime score, superbly acted.

[@hamzah5643]

There's a saying "all war is a failure of communication" So this is indeed a war film, whether failing to communicate in a submarine, or failing to communicate with the "enemy". Either way a breakdown in any case can lead to the worst.

[@rashadwalker8218]

Y'all have to check out more of Denzel films

[@kingfield99]

Famously the whole Silver Surfer conversation is part of a script 'punch-up' by Quentin Tarantino. Once you know Tarantino wrote it, it's so verrrryyy him.

[@zipzeolocke2]

Torpedoes are basically underwater missiles Sam :P

[@samantha_schmitt]

Ah okay so basically the same 😂

[@zipzeolocke2]

@@samantha_schmitt Well apart from the fact that torpedoes can't fly above water and only operate in the water Definitely water missiles only used by submarines or from aircraft dropped into the water to aim at targets underwater lol

[@ShawnRavenfire]

Something similar to this actually happened on a Russian sub. They thought that a nuclear war had already started. They had three missile keys, and two of the chief officers were ready to launch their missiles, but the third officer refused.

[@marzsit9833]

"the enemy below" is one of my favorite submarine movies even though the u-boat depicted in the film is not accurate at all, but the story is great, the actors are great and all of the scenes showing the destroyer dropping depth charges were shot off the oregon coast aboard a real ww-II destroyer the film company hired from the us navy.

[@Rallarbusen]

To answer the question: Curt Jurgens plays the German U-boot captain, Robert Mitchum is the captain of the US destroyer.

[@quicksilvermad]

The Book of Eli is a fantastic Denzel Washington movie. Oh! and Fallen. Gary Oldman is in The Book of Eli and John Goodman is in Fallen.

[@karlmoles6530]

Allow me to recommend three older films to at least watch. Run Silent Run Deep, The Enemy Below, and The Bedford Incident. All are amazing.

[@woodyg75]

Even older is Destination Tokyo 1943 with Cary Grant, good WW II submarine movie. Also Operation Petticoat with Grant and Tony Curtis, a submarine comedy. Those old subs are so small compared to modern day nuclear propelled.

[@SSS-ie6mh]

Love movies that take place in one location like this, 12 Angry Men, Phone Booth, Cube, The Exam, Circle etc.

[@michaellueneburg2261]

Denzel. Glory. And Philadelphia. Must see! Also you are both soooo good at this! You are one of my favorite channels on KZbin!!!!

[@peterkoester7358]

Actual submariner here who was serving on active duty (fast boats, not ballistic missile subs) at the time this movie was released. We were told by our command we were not to discuss any technical aspects of this film should anyone ask. Some behind the scenes stuff that isn't discussing classified knowledge: - The crew’s briefing and entry onto the boat was filmed on the former USS Barbel (SS-580), a decommissioned diesel-powered sub awaiting disposal. The film crew built the submarine’s large sail and part of the missile deck to make it look like an SSBN. - The submarine submerging at the beginning of the film is the real USS Alabama (SSBN-731). The Navy did not give permission for the sub to be filmed submerging, but the film crew learned Alabama was in port in Pearl Harbor and stalked the exit of the harbor until the boat emerged and went under. The previous scene of a submarine on the surface was a completely different class of boat, a Los Angeles class fast attack. You can easily see it is missing the fairwater planes the SSBNs all have. - Galley fires are one of the most common and dangerous casualties a submarine can suffer and often will start in the deep fat fryer. This is one of the most common drills run aboard a submarine at sea. - The purpose of a torpedo - especially in submarine warfare - is not to hit the target directly, but to detonate the warhead within a certain distance from the hull in the hopes the pressure wave will damage or breech the hull. The best place to detonate a torpedo is actually directly under the keel of the opposing vessel. While there are numerous things this movie got right, there are also many, MANY things this movie got wrong. (One of the main reasons the Navy did not cooperate in the making of this film.) Watch this with a room-full of submariners and they will tear this film apart like an episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000.

[@gunman462]

Notice how Denzel's team are framed in green late in the movie while Gene Hackman and his guys are all show in red light. This is especially cool when Viggo hesitated to open the safe near the end when he is half red and half green.

[@elzar760]

The Captain was wrong, but also, Hunter was wrong at points. It’s complicated and while it’s easy to see the captain as wrong in the end because the message said terminate, but if it had said launch now…and they had found out in the end the rebels were able to launch their nukes and millions were dead…well, the captain definitely did things out of line, but it’s not quite so black and white.

[@Rob-eo5ql]

Memphis Belle is a great movie. You guys will love it.

[@stewartjmurray]

I love that “Come and See” was on the poll. I’m note sure you could show much of that on here!

[@thomaseggle8886]

You have to understand that they were both right and wrong....they allowed the chain of command to get manipulated like play dough which was so dangerous on a vehicle that had that much firepower. But that's what made the movie so fantastic.

[@danielwong5378]

The guy fixing the radio just got out of prison for his involvement in the murder of a cop in NY. He was in a great movie with Robert De Niro called A Bronx Tale.

[@805Bruin]

Six Academy Awards for acting in that last scene between Denzel, Hackman, and Jason Robards.

[@davida7153]

Since they mentioned the missile crisis of Cuba, "13 Days" with Kevin Costner is worth watching about that event. I miss this type of movies that involves action, political and thriller in one movie and here Denzel and Gene are top notch.

[@jonpevehouse]

The Thin Red Line should have been in that war poll!

[@leoda_lion4107]

This movie does take a lot of detail to get a lot of things right, as someone who has served in the Navy. However, its a movie, so of course they take a few liberties to make it less believable. One- there would be no dog on the ship. Two- an officer cannot make an enlisted drop and do pushups unless you are in boot camp. Three- this scenario between the captain and the XO would never happen in real life. They might not like each other, but there would be far more courteous than this. This is also part of military code that is called conduct unbecoming of an officer. If leadership is squabbling in open in front of the men, then it would cause a big deal as far as leadership.

[@conker206]

I have to disagree a little about this not happening in real life. Full disclaimer I’ve never been in the military so I don’t know. You said that they might not like each other but would be far more courteous than this. At the very start the xo was very calm and courteous to the captain and vice versa. However the captain had already made up his mind no matter what and was not going to listen to the xo any further. At that point it became heated. The xo realized he couldn’t negotiate anymore and with nuclear war on the line things had to happen the way they did.

[@danwood4171]

So what does a senior officer do in a critical situation when his 2nd in command starts questioning things in the middle of a crisis? I didn't see the STFU scene as that weird.

[@hk_802]

While it was a great movie with an awesome story and characters, they got just about everything wrong with the sub stuff... haha. Though quite a bit of the equipment used was correct, everything dealing with procedures was way off. A fun story that was told to me by some of the older sub guys that were in when this movie came out.. A bunch of the anti-nuclear groups picketed outside a few of the sub base's main gates for protests. Apparently quite a few people took the movie to heart and viewed submariners as psychotic murderers with itchy trigger fingers that had access to world ending bombs. They could just go crazy at any time and kill everyone, haha.

[@promontorium]

​@@danwood4171 You just never see this kind of bullshit back and forth. A CO or XO is going to have been an officer for many years, probably 10-15 years in at least. That is their life. It's not part time, it's THEIR LIFE. They've had to deal with people they hate. They've had an entire career in a tiny tube crammed with other people. They've learned how to maintain absolute decorum. It's not that people wouldn't disagree, it just wouldn't be constantly boiling over with bickering etc. The conduct and character of the captain is not someone who would stay a captain for long. He rubs everyone wrong, he pisses off his crew, he makes people uncomfortable, etc. He can say all he wants about how it's about readiness but the admirals shit can captains that make their commands miserable. The captain was a prick to his new XO from minute one. See you might see it as Training Day with Denzel in the reverse role, but an XO isn't a rookie and doesn't need the captain to train him. Any officer chosen to be an XO already has many years of leadership experience. The captain doesn't have to evaluate or train him. The CO is going to see an XO as his primary ally, not enemy. That's why the XO is called a "first mate" or in Star Trek "Number 1". A CO will look to rely on the XO, not be a dick to him and set him straight about how he thinks the Navy should be run.

[@promontorium]

@@conker206 But that's precisely why it's not realistic. You won't ever see a CO be a total prick to his XO from minute one like this. It makes no sense. This movie portrayed it like it's the captain versus the XO, but in reality the captain relies on the XO for everything. The captain sees the XO as their "first mate" their "number one". A captain who was on everyone's ass like this 24/7 would lose their job. While you could imagine them going at it as they did eventually, the part that's unrealistic is that it would ever boil over to that point in the first place. These are officers who've spent 1/3 to 1/2 or more of their life in charge of people doing this exact job every day of every year. This kind of bickering would be squashed a decade before they got near those positions. This movie also made it seem like the XO had to be trained by the CO, but that's nonsense. An XO would have had to have many years as a division officer and department head learning all the work of an XO long before promotion to the position. That's generally how the Navy works, you learn the job of the person above you before you get promoted. That's especially true for officers because their promotion in rank is usually directly tied to a promotion in position.

[@uosdwiSrdewoH]

I never thought that "It was a short list" line landed the way they wanted it too. Short list is better in a way as he's one of the few people they considered capable to be put on the list at all. Doesn't matter how many names are on the list. Could be 1000 or just one. When you're at the top you're at the top.

[@ronniefromOR]

Lol yes... they want it to be an insult but it's not .. I wish Denzels character would have said "thanks"

[@Admcorranhorn]

If you wanted a more light hearted take on submarine films, there is always Down Perscope. I won't say it's a masterpiece of cinema but it's a fun/goofy ride.

[@DogmeatDied989]

Man on Fire is my favorite Denzel movie. You should do a Denzel poll for the channel. Deja Vu was also a great Denzel experience