@@grandmasterbale Literally fr? Ain’t no literally fr when you’re wrong Potna 💯💯 He Doesn’t Hate Midnyra Because Of Rejection!! Criston Rightfully Hates Midnyra Because Midnyra Wanted To Continue Using Him For Sex After Already Ruining The Thing He Put His Entire Self Worth Into!! Midnyra Wanted To Continue Despite Knowing The Dangers A Kings Guard Could Face & It Made Criston Realize That She Never Loved Him & Was Just Using Him To Please Herself & Playing With His Life!! Mind You The Thing He Put His Entire Self Worth Into Is FOREVER RUINED💯💯‼️ He Could’ve Been A Saint For The Next 20 years After & It Wouldn’t Of Meant💩 What She Took From Him Is Never Coming Back💯💯‼️
@HOEEAHHNIGGAS2 ай бұрын
Except He Doesn’t Hate Midnyra Because Of Rejection!! Criston Rightfully Hates Midnyra Because Midnyra Wanted To Continue Using Him For Sex After Already Ruining The Thing He Put His Entire Self Worth Into!! Midnyra Wanted To Continue Despite Knowing The Dangers A Kings Guard Could Face & It Made Criston Realize That She Never Loved Him & Was Just Using Him To Please Herself & Playing With His Life!! Mind You The Thing He Put His Entire Self Worth Into Is FOREVER RUINED💯💯‼️ He Could’ve Been A Saint For The Next 20 years After & It Wouldn’t Of Meant💩 What She Took From Him Is Never Coming Back💯💯‼️ You definitely tried it tho💯💯
@DarkKing0093 ай бұрын
Bobby B his entire Kingsguard every last one of them. Barristan the Bold just let that the boar attack is King
@grandmasterbale3 ай бұрын
I see that although i don’t think any of them have been as dislikable as Cole
@DarkKing0093 ай бұрын
@@grandmasterbale None are are a main character. All had one job.
@henrydavies1983 ай бұрын
Cole is depicted as overly ambitious and selfish in the show, however it doesn’t take away from the fact that he is incredibly loyal to the Greens and is shown to actually care about Aegon II and has a somewhat close relationship to Aemond. Celibacy seems to be the vow that is most commonly broken among all the orders of Westeros, whether it’s the NW, Faith or the KG: And being a Dornishman definitely doesn’t help with keeping it in his pants. Cole definitely plays the game and to his credit gets away with literal murder. Meryn Trant sweeps the KG as the absolute worst of the worst. Cole is definitely bad but ultimately holds himself to a high standard of prolonging his Kings life.
@HOEEAHHNIGGAS2 ай бұрын
Overly ambitious? No he isn’t lmfao. He quite literally didn’t ask to be lord commander nor hand of the king & he was shocked when he became hand & looked like he didn’t really want it. Selfish? Everything he does is for the greens so how so🤔🤔 He’s not a Dornishman tho lol. He’s a storm lander who’s of dornish decent. His mom is dornish.
@scammaster69853 ай бұрын
Let's see him as hand of king!
@DC-di1fs3 ай бұрын
Cristin Cole wasted NO time in ratting out Rhaeneyra to Allicent about them sleeping together despite (according to Ser Erryk's vows) kings guards are supposed to keep the secrets of the one they are assigned to protect. Hell hath no fury like a man jilted 😅
@grandmasterbale3 ай бұрын
Another EXCELLENT point, although here i suppose you could argue the Queen has authority. But in the shows case she didn’t exactly have to press him for information
@HOEEAHHNIGGAS2 ай бұрын
That wasn’t just rhaenyras secret tho… Criston had just lost the thing he put his entire self worth into… he's paranoid about being exposed and not thinking straight, and that's why he's so angry that Rhaenyra simply wants him to be her whore. She's not in love with him, it's all just about sex for her. But he could be gelded, tortured and executed. That's why he breaks down to Alicent so quickly and almost unprovoked, and confesses and asks for a swift death. Jitted? He never loved rhaenyra nor does he do what he does because he wants revenge💯💯 “His relationship with Rhaenyra may have been the inciting factor for his initial connection with Alicent But His Dedication To Alicent & The Greens Is Something Entirely Separate From His Feelings Towards Rhaenyra
@HOEEAHHNIGGAS2 ай бұрын
@@grandmasterbale excellent point? Let’s use some context buddy…
@scammaster69853 ай бұрын
He is rewarded for every mistake I think!
@grandmasterbale3 ай бұрын
Quite literally its ridiculous when you add it all up
@Rex-rg3ce3 ай бұрын
Some ppl think "white cloak" Cole did a 180 turn sleeping with Alicent. But they don't realize him being hypocritical out of seething hatred towards Rhaenyra is the whole point of his arc. Ever since his suicide attempt his every move is driven by spite towards Rhaenyra whom he felt had agrieved him. This is the "every woman is the image of the mother" hypocritical Cole. Him sleeping with Alicent is a continuation of that one-track mind. He thinks they're united in shared hatred of Rhaenyra, while Alicent is vicariously living out her love for Rhaenyra via Cole. The book never gives a real explanation as to why Criston hated Rhaenyra so much. There was an implication of misogyny as Cole said "her & daemon would turn KL into a brothel". The show expanded on that theme. it's easy to write a generic edgy chad antihero/villain. This universe has so many of them. The show could've taken the easy way out by portraying Cole as another personality-less badass. Writing a pure repulsive dickhead just by the virtue of pure dickheadery is much harder. Tying it into the theme of medieval patriarchy & the complex dynamic of the two female protagonists is even more hard. They managed to pull that off & turned him into the most unlikable character in Thrones verse in the eyes of the general public. Sure, in another world I would've loved to see the badass Cole who's beating up Harwin and slitting Beesbury's throat. But I'm gonna lie if I say I'm not enjoying this dickhead version & waiting for him to get his comeuppance.
@grandmasterbale3 ай бұрын
I really like the whole “character you love to hate” trope and I think they’ve done a tremendous job with Cole
@HOEEAHHNIGGAS2 ай бұрын
180 turn sleeping with Alicent? The Criston from over 20 years ago is different than the present day one. Criston was fresh on an existential crisis over having the thing he put his entire self worth into forever ruined. The younger Criston considered his self image and views himself as a good and honourable knight. after having the thing he put his entire self worth into ruined, he gradually stopped giving a shit about this image. He had great views on honour and a life as a Kingsguard. Those expectations for himself have been broken. His vow has been broken a long time ago so he uses his own code and creed to make his way in the world now. He can't regain anything. The deed is done. Out of Seething hatred for rhaenyra is the whole point of his arc? You quite literally couldn’t be more wrong lmfao🤣🤣😂 Criston Rightfully Hates Midnyra Because Midnyra Wanted To Continue Using Him For Sex After Already Ruining The Thing He Put His Entire Self Worth Into!! Midnyra Wanted To Continue Despite Knowing The Dangers A Kings Guard Could Face & It Made Criston Realize That She Never Loved Him & Was Just Using Him To Please Herself & Playing With His Life!! Mind You The Thing He Put His Entire Self Worth Into Is FOREVER RUINED💯💯‼️ He Could’ve Been A Saint For The Next 20 years After & It Wouldn’t Of Meant💩 What She Took From Him Is Never Coming Back💯💯‼️ His relationship with Rhaenyra may have been the inciting factor for his initial connection with Alicent But His Dedication To Alicent & The Greens Is Something Entirely Separate From His Feelings Towards Rhaenyra💯‼️‼️ He’s forever gonna hate her but she definitely ain’t as special as you make her out to be Potna💯💯 She could’ve left Westeros & never returned before the war & criston wouldn’t of gave a flying f*ck just like he didn’t when she was gone for 6 straight years.💯💯 Misogyny? Lmao rhaenyra herself isn’t a feminist nor is she for women in the show lmfao💯💯 You definitely tried it tho💯💯 You literally like a d*ck head in the grooming p*do r*pist daemon & you like hypocrites as well in midnyra the r*pist, daemon, rhaenys, etc
@HOEEAHHNIGGAS2 ай бұрын
@@grandmasterbale 180 turn sleeping with Alicent? The Criston from over 20 years ago is different than the present day one. Criston was fresh on an existential crisis over having the thing he put his entire self worth into forever ruined. The younger Criston considered his self image and views himself as a good and honourable knight. after having the thing he put his entire self worth into ruined, he gradually stopped giving a shit about this image. He had great views on honour and a life as a Kingsguard. Those expectations for himself have been broken. His vow has been broken a long time ago so he uses his own code and creed to make his way in the world now. He can't regain anything. The deed is done. Out of Seething hatred for rhaenyra is the whole point of his arc? You quite literally couldn’t be more wrong lmfao🤣🤣😂 Criston Rightfully Hates Midnyra Because Midnyra Wanted To Continue Using Him For Sex After Already Ruining The Thing He Put His Entire Self Worth Into!! Midnyra Wanted To Continue Despite Knowing The Dangers A Kings Guard Could Face & It Made Criston Realize That She Never Loved Him & Was Just Using Him To Please Herself & Playing With His Life!! Mind You The Thing He Put His Entire Self Worth Into Is FOREVER RUINED💯💯‼️ He Could’ve Been A Saint For The Next 20 years After & It Wouldn’t Of Meant💩 What She Took From Him Is Never Coming Back💯💯‼️ His relationship with Rhaenyra may have been the inciting factor for his initial connection with Alicent But His Dedication To Alicent & The Greens Is Something Entirely Separate From His Feelings Towards Rhaenyra💯‼️‼️ He’s forever gonna hate her but she definitely ain’t as special as you make her out to be Potna💯💯 She could’ve left Westeros & never returned before the war & criston wouldn’t of gave a flying f*ck just like he didn’t when she was gone for 6 straight years.💯💯 Misogyny? Lmao rhaenyra herself isn’t a feminist nor is she for women in the show lmfao💯💯 You definitely tried it tho💯💯 You literally like a d*ck head in the grooming p*do r*pist daemon & you like hypocrites as well in midnyra the r*pist, daemon, rhaenys, etc