Lion: Oh yeah 8 year old Nutmeg: * Changes form in to a older man with grey hair and a nice suit. * "Hi am Chris Hansen with Dateline NBCs to catch a predator, Why don't you have a seat?"
@DOCTORRGLASS8 ай бұрын
Bet if I'm ever a dm in this situation this is gon happen
@retaliaterguitar27 ай бұрын
Just take a seat right over there 😂
@countsnowyofgwainn39966 ай бұрын
Yes! This
@tedsymons71148 күн бұрын
i applaud you, i never thought of this one
@tsifirakiehl42502 жыл бұрын
Lion: *tries to do unspeakably awful things to Nutmeg* Me if I was the DM: “Nutmeg reveals her true form, that of *insert most powerful monster in the game setting here*. She immediately devours your character, and you don’t need to make a new one, because you’re out of this campaign. I don’t allow ped0philes in my games.”
@davidtherwhanger67952 жыл бұрын
Sounds appropriate to me. But really she had already turned into fog. She could have shot down his throat into his lungs and drown him from the inside. And there would be nothing he could really do about it that wouldn't kill his character anyways.
@smusky4643 Жыл бұрын
Terrasque? At least in the older editions, Terrasque was something you did not want to fight, just run from. Unless you were 99.99% sure you had a chance, speed was it's only real weakness, flee.
@moosecannibal8224 Жыл бұрын
@@smusky4643 being right next to her when she turned into a Terasque... or literally anything large.... He'd definitely be out of the game after that.
@coma2726 Жыл бұрын
Make nutmeg nyarlathotep.
@midorithefestivegardevoir6727 Жыл бұрын
I'd reveal that Nutmeg is secretly a 7000 year old demon that takes the form of a minor to trick pedophiles and devour their souls.
@MatthewSmith-pv6gd2 жыл бұрын
"... Everybody learns how to grow a spine in their own time." I found humor in this statement purely due to the fact crabs are invertebrates.
@krikota1 Жыл бұрын
That is pretty funny
@ailixian Жыл бұрын
just give him a few quintrillion years
@kiibo1786 Жыл бұрын
All will grow their shell when the time is well
@ailixian Жыл бұрын
@@kiibo1786 excellently said
@krikota1 Жыл бұрын
@@kiibo1786 couldn’t have said it better myself
@Another_Hibiki2 жыл бұрын
"YoU'rE nErFiNg Me" and "I nEvEr Do AnYtHiNg UsEfUl" The dude really acted as if s.xually harassing a child would be the most useful thing to do, and because OP didn't consent with this weird ass scenario in a tabletop rpg. What he thought would happen? "Oh, Lion, you're such a wild card in the team, we can always count on you when we need a groomer, what a hero." ... The lack of self awareness is always amazing in RPG horror stories.
@aegisScale2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see his list of "what not to do as a DM." What's on there? "Allow players to diddle children when they wish?" "Give players exactly what they want regardless of logic?" "Give all the loot to the first nonce who found it regardless of context?"
@DintheGoblinQueen Жыл бұрын
@@aegisScale ikr? absolutely disgusting behavior.
@GrouchierBear Жыл бұрын
As a creepy aside, right at the point in the story where the creep said "I have nutmeg sit on the bed with me" the video immediately broke into cheering. I immediately looked up from my cleaning saying "what the f*ck" before realizing an ad for a sports channel had started running.
@pensandshakers9 ай бұрын
Worst timing of the year.
@shogg218 ай бұрын
You turning to the device as it plays the ad at the physically WORST time ever
@Firestar-TV7 ай бұрын
😂🤣
@machinegun_noise7 ай бұрын
I mean, probably how it happened in Lion’s head 😒
@someonehavinganidentitycrisis6 ай бұрын
That's absolutely insane, in a funny way
@justanegg84782 жыл бұрын
I think calling him a “that guy” is extremely underestimating the situation. I believe the fact that he was willing to do this at all just furthers my belief that he’s just a straight up predator
@gecko2.6172 жыл бұрын
probably even psychopathic, since he thought a laboratory smelling like a cleaning facility was a s** dungeon... so... creepy, predatory psychpath and a total nutcase...
@theorangegremlin334 Жыл бұрын
He’s a miniladd
@Davtwan Жыл бұрын
Yeah if he’s willing to reveal his fantasies in public, even if it’s a small Discord group, then he’s very likely a predator.
@salemcrow5078 Жыл бұрын
the quotes around the “that guy” are actually the jail bars closing in
@morkmello5367 Жыл бұрын
@@Davtwan Based on?
@starbird39392 жыл бұрын
“You are trying to railroad me!” DM: And you want to railroad this into a rape scene. That is not happening.
@beardedwonder83332 жыл бұрын
DM: “let’s play this out then… suddenly you see nutmegs form change, in front of you is a massive goliath rockin a knee knocker, he looks at you an winks before grabbing your arm.” Turns out Nutmeg wasn’t what she appeared to be…lmao 😂😂😂
@chrispham65992 жыл бұрын
@@beardedwonder8333 one of these things don't look like the others
@davidtherwhanger67952 жыл бұрын
@@beardedwonder8333 I remember a story where a bard went around "seducing" a lot. He rolled a Nat 20 once to seduce a dragon. DM told him to roll another Nat 20. Bard said "What for? I already rolled for seduction." DM said "To see how many D6's of damage you take." Bard looked confused. DM said "Male Dragon."
@beardedwonder83332 жыл бұрын
@@davidtherwhanger6795 😂😂😂
@Jermbot152 жыл бұрын
"You are trying to railroad me!" *sigh* "You know what, that is fair. I shouldn't be trying to salvage this scene." *BOOOTED!*
@frogmanjones63402 жыл бұрын
imagine actually trying to role-play a r*pe scene and getting angry when people says no
@paulfitzpatrick82882 жыл бұрын
Imagine continuing on with said person.
@andrejg41362 жыл бұрын
@@paulfitzpatrick8288 the inter-dynamics of people are completely irrational. And everyone has different breaking points. The problem is that this is exactly what predators prey upon, and they will worm their way into your mind so that your breaking point wont trigger and you 'give them' whatever they are looking for.
@moosecannibal8224 Жыл бұрын
@@andrejg4136 That's why it's good to have set boundaries. Sexy stuff in general doesn't NEED to be off the table (would probably make it simpler if it was though) But literally anything to do with adult situations paired with kids I keep far out of my games, and if they are a topic, that's all they are, a topic to learn about (Say, the town to the east had all of its children die to a mysterious sickness that not only killed them but seems to have made the adults sterile as an example, and someone's asking the party to find a cure/quell the disease some other way)
@NXTangl Жыл бұрын
I'm not even against rape roleplay, I just don't want it...well...forced on people.
@Axolotl720 Жыл бұрын
@@NXTangl rather ironic
@TheRuneTail2 жыл бұрын
Dude was wanted to ERP with an 8 year old....so NO he doesn't get a second chance to "live his dream". You are 100% wrong on giving him another chance. Seriously other players were gonna bail because the Lone Lion was such a PoS
@jackmack41812 жыл бұрын
If I had a guy who’s first act when seeing a child is to do THAT, instantaneous Ban from my group and Knucle sandwich with an extra whoop-ass to the face.
@TheRuneTail2 жыл бұрын
@@jackmack4181 oh God yea then take an intense hot shower to wash away the slime feeling
@Thunderstar72 жыл бұрын
Should’ve called him LionMaker
@TheRuneTail2 жыл бұрын
@@Thunderstar7 nah cause of his stupid lone wolf mentality
@Iianator2 жыл бұрын
He doesnt get a chance to live another second either.
@eflarsen2 жыл бұрын
that man is so telling on himself with the scent of bleach and metal smelling like a sex dungeon to him, and the immediate attempt to do, uh, THAT with a CHILD CHARACTER
@pulsefel92102 жыл бұрын
i really wanna know how he thinks those smells and things equal sex dungeon. just what fucked up porn has he been watching?
@gecko2.6172 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the good old s*x dungeons that look like a laboratory and smell like chemicals... What the heck is wrong with that guy to assume so? okay, let's be honest "whst is right with him" should be easier to list, since it is a smaller list I guess...
@Lrbearclaw2 жыл бұрын
Clearly he has never had sex. Sex dungeons don't smell of bleach, murder basements do.
@pulsefel9210 Жыл бұрын
@@Lrbearclaw I haven't either and I know this.
@The_gaming_archaeologist Жыл бұрын
The idea that he says a place smells like bleach is a "sex dungeon" is extremely worrying. Why would it smell that strongly of bleach, unless death and mutilation is involved.
@rossjohnstone46892 жыл бұрын
All right, when I heard the first story I was like "Well, that was ok, OP is learning and yes, the guy was creepy, but at least nothing THAT bad happened." Than I saw there's 10 minutes left and I said...Oh God what have you done now lion?
@grungscreamvr88642 жыл бұрын
Ah Hell Nah man I woulda kicked him out there and then. If Nutmeg didn't have Devil Fruit Powers then like who knows what would have happened.
@viderevero1338 Жыл бұрын
@@grungscreamvr8864 If nutmeg wasn’t Kitty Pride, she might’ve ended up as EDP’s DnD cupcake.
@Xalecx1710 Жыл бұрын
I thought the video was over till I saw this comment now im scared
@hourglas Жыл бұрын
@@grungscreamvr8864 I wonder if Ceasar was their inspiration for nutmeg. I mean he's literally a scientist that turns into fog/gas/smoke
@RylixBlizzai2 жыл бұрын
why do i get the horrifically concerning feeling he didn't say anything about it the next session was because he headcanoned during the week that the act was committed in full and as far as he was concerned he had that "special connection" to her, hence the clinging to her side
@daemonblackfyre32382 жыл бұрын
Lion: "I asked Nutmeg if she ever thought about adult thoughts?" DM: "I punch you in the f**king face." * proceeds to punch creeps face in *
@GrimmDelightsDice2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is definitely giving new DM vibe, after almost 10 years of DMing, my response would absolutely be nuclear to a PC trying this in-game. Kid characters exist for cute bonding moments and absolutely eviscerating the PCs emotionally if you do anything to them (also fun twist villains), if a PC were creepy to one I'm retroactively deciding that kid is a level 15 barbarian or a disguised dragon and they're getting smote
@rossjohnstone46892 жыл бұрын
Lion: "I asked Nutmeg if she ever thought about adult thoughts?" DM: Nutmeg turns into Chris Hanson and says "you wanna take a seat over there?"
@matijasostojic42882 жыл бұрын
Lion: "I ask Nutmeg if she has ever thought adult thought." Nutmeg responds with comment about science and experiences. Me if i was Lion: "Yes science, you see that" point at science equipment " That was probably used to make these things called drugs. Stay away from them." THE end.
@leodoni34912 жыл бұрын
@@GrimmDelightsDice Yeah, agreed one time my friend who was dm for that game added a 2 ft tall halfling called Silla, she was 12 and her main purpose was mainly to mess around with my other friend's character and generally be annoying eg: jumping onto his back and pulling his ears (he was a harengon) and my character built a sort of motherly relationship with her. Sorry for waffling on.
@aegisScale2 жыл бұрын
@@GrimmDelightsDice My go-to is "God says fuck you," but I am warming up to the idea of the character being retroactively anime-tier overpowered.
@zetsu8ou2 жыл бұрын
Didn't even get to read the title/thumbnail before I felt pure fear, I saw Kotoko that was enough 💀
@de4dly_n1ghtshade2 жыл бұрын
I KNEW BAD STUFF WAS GONNA HAPPEN :(
@lordgeneralmilitantdeezy75502 жыл бұрын
I know how you feel
@ajbXYZcool2 жыл бұрын
*shakes fist at Danganronpa*
@CalebTibster2 жыл бұрын
Needs to be replaced with Haiji Towa, probably fits the story better
@l0stndamned2 жыл бұрын
Who is that character?
@QueenLethargy2 жыл бұрын
Listen I may be asexual but I'm 90% sure that any room permeating with bleach and metal smells would NOT sound like a sex dungeon, nor would that turn anyone on. EDIT: Came back and realized Lion """confirmed""" it was a sex dungeon because there was a bed in the lab room, despite OP having described it to be unused for a long time. 💀
@RogueT-Rex84682 жыл бұрын
My friend- same.
@tarotsushima33322 жыл бұрын
If anything it sounds more like a constantly cleaned murder den.
@jonnyg98652 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the scene of a murder after the fact. After the perp cleaned up.
@silenthound81162 жыл бұрын
Dude thought any bunker with chemicals and a dingy bed is the average go-to for BDSM enthusiasts instead of crackheads.
@starbird39392 жыл бұрын
This. I would think it is a murder dungeon.
@GnomePickles2 жыл бұрын
Don't blame the OP honestly. This is a situation that when you are not in it seems obvious. You can freeze up if you are not ready or experienced with garbage people
@BlueTressym2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Many people forget that not everyone has the kind of upbringing that gives them the tools to handle terrible people and say no to them. In fact, more than a few are actively prevented from doing so. Assertiveness is not an innate ability, it's a learned one and plenty of people end up learning the hard way; they shouldn't be shamed for that.
@Micras082 жыл бұрын
The social dynamics behind the scene alone gives OP a pass imo. He/she was DMing for a group of people where he/she was the odd one out to begin with - that's hard as fuck and obviously impacts how much social leverage you would have with regards to negotiating a kick. That being said I also think these play-by-post/text heavy games with whispers and the like is just begging for shit like that to happen. I'm not saying that people shouldn't play those types of games, I'm simply stating that I personally don't think it's worth the hassle, I'd rather not play at all if that was my only choice tbh.
@Dookieman19752 жыл бұрын
Idk why and I know I prob shouldn’t be as frustrated with OP as much as I am, but Jeezus grow some fckn balls, you literally have Master in your title! I get people choke and freeze when they run into a creep like this but are you kidding me? It took this long, your friends who were friends with that thing longer and didn’t even see the whole picture had a more appropriate reaction. And the fact they’re was more just drives it home that the OP is kind of an idiot, I’ve seen some DMs like them but are you serious, it sounded like that degenerate was auditioning to meet Chris Hanson
@alexlee9385 Жыл бұрын
I mean who's ever prepared for their friends to be a massive shit stain
@braindeadpizzaslice9098 Жыл бұрын
if you cant kick out an obvious pedo from your game for doing obvious pedo shit maybe dont dm or maybe mature a bit before dming. and you should definitely not CONTINUE the role playing scene by doing the rejection in character
@squishybrick2 жыл бұрын
"Bleach and metal smells" My first post apon entering that room would've been "Nutmeg... It's time to cook.."
@michaelmorton56984 ай бұрын
Cue "Breaking Bad" theme, then Gus Fring steps into the lab and just stares at you all.
@donutytimes24 күн бұрын
"nutmeg..we must cook." 😈
@Amayawolf_012 жыл бұрын
Op should've clarified a lot sooner that Nutmeg was 8, because while it was definitely creepy non-con going on the only underage character mentioned initially was the 3 year old. I actually restarted the video to check if I missed her age and didn't find it mentioned until the TL;DR
@therealmaizing5328 Жыл бұрын
I did the same thing.
@knightofcarrion7358 Жыл бұрын
Yes that is what i thought. Also suddenly all the charcters are 16? Like people know the age of strangers around them? its weird that it was kept out of the post and makes me wonder if the player even knew the characters ages
@RutraNickers Жыл бұрын
@@knightofcarrion7358 well, he most probably knew Nutmeg was at least a child because nobody would introduce an 8yr any other way besides saying "child" at least one time
@jossebrodeur6033 Жыл бұрын
It was literally in the title of the post. Anyone with any reading comprehension could tell that the 8 year old girl mentioned in the title was Nutmeg because she was the one being put in the gross situation.
@Zarastro54 Жыл бұрын
The man definitely knew the NPC was a child. He straight up asked her if she ever had any “grown up” thoughts before attempting to grape her. Total scum.
@beardedwonder83332 жыл бұрын
Perks of being DM…”NutMeg panics remembering that pedophiles belong on the wall” chose a spell that would kill off the character, fudge the roll, let him know his character is dead and let everyone else know why, then boot him from the server.
@OnlineSarcasmFails Жыл бұрын
PWK was made for this.
@tuseroni6085 Жыл бұрын
@@OnlineSarcasmFails nutmeg has a ring that activates, hits you with power word kill.
@JasonLudeli2 жыл бұрын
Your compassion for the DM that hasn't grown a spine yet and DM's like him is one of the reasons I love you. I consider Compassion and Empathy are some very important traits for my youtubers to have as strange as that might sound haha
@weirdlycurlyplantstem82312 жыл бұрын
When Critcrab said he was going to throw up some warnings, I got up to the 'throw up' part and said "me too"
@erinwessel21952 жыл бұрын
Hey Crit Crab, I just want to say how much I appreciate your positivity and support for all these OPs. It is really hard to know you have the right to set boundaries if you have been brought up to think that setting boundaries is selfish. It is not uncommon for these people to get victimized many times as they struggle to figure out if it is ok to protect themselves. There is a lot of confusion and shame involved in putting up boundaries and later for letting yourself get walked over. It's kind of amazing to hear you talk about thay without making snap judgments. You are a good person!
@CritCrab2 жыл бұрын
Very true. I have also had trouble saying 'no' to problem players when I was a new DM, so it's hard to see people in the comments insisting the DM/OP "just shut them down"
@jimimcmahon4522 Жыл бұрын
@@CritCrab honestly I lost a lot of respect for you on this take. Loin was literally being a pedophile and your response is op is just learning. Yeah kicking out the problem player won't cut here I agree and I'll do you one better shutdown the campaign and report this guy to the authorities because I'm willing to bet if he's done this in erp he's done this in real life. Honestly op is a coward for not shutting down Loin completely and you're just as bad in saying it's ok no other players are getting hurt it's just a guy trying to fuck an 8 year old op will grown his spine one day.
@Theokal3 Жыл бұрын
I know it's a minor part in the whole thing, but I'd like to point out: how was Nutmeg avoiding him "railroading"? Her ability to turn to smoke is something that was well-established and strength doesn't mean shit against an incorporeal enemy. It makes perfect sense for him to not be able to do.... *this*
@CrowePerch2 жыл бұрын
One of the hardest lessons to learn at the table, is shutting shit like this down the moment it pops up, before it has an opportunity to fester. It sucks, you might be angry all day, it could ruin the game, but it’s necessary. It’s a shame the OP had to learn this lesson the hard way, but I hope that any DM watching can learn from this and be able to step up to the plate when creeps like this show themselves at their tables. Much respect Crab king 👑🦀
@Tijggie82 Жыл бұрын
Not just at the table. And unfortunately many learn it the hard way...
@Saturnfanboy2 жыл бұрын
I've never been to a sex dungeon before, but I'm pretty sure they don't have laboratory equipment all around them...
@kfk80462 жыл бұрын
It's more common than you might think.
@Tribute7373 Жыл бұрын
You dont spin up the the MRI machine for ambiance?
@DerNiker Жыл бұрын
@@Tribute7373 Help stepbro, my piercings are stuck to the MRI.
@knightofcarrion7358 Жыл бұрын
uh... news to tell you about sex dungeons--- they definitely can :)
@kitsunefire1 Жыл бұрын
Here's the thing: They CAN have laboratory equipment But they're not universal to sex dungeons If his first thought is "aww yiss sex dungeon" to the scent of bleach and INSTANTLY hitting on the 8 year old, I'd suggest to search his hard drives immediately
@veroxid2 жыл бұрын
My response to the second story when Lion talks about how being higher should give a bonus: You're higher, yes. But you're trading quality for quantity here. You can see more, but at proportionally less detail. Because of that, no bonus - but it will allow your Search roll to let you see farther out.
@n0etic_f0x2 жыл бұрын
I have a rule that benevolent beings can inhabit children, I have had this happen only to have "The child's eye now glow a deep violet they speak in otherworldly echos "What do you think you are doing swine?" the child says as they float in midair. They use telekinesis to grab you and hang you from the ceiling from a large meat hook they generate out of a dance fog"
@embroideredragdoll2 жыл бұрын
Oooh oooh ooooh I’ve got a good idea for a rp I want you to use. The child stands still, their eyes close and they telepathically lift you (the wrongun) above the ground. You nor anyone else can bring you back down. Then a deep voice can be heard. “I am the divine protecter of the innocent… you have dared to attempt your fiendish will upon one of my subjects. For that you will perish and every reincarnation of your soul shall cease to exist” The perpetrator feels a searing pain shoot up their back as their spine shatters, then their limbs snap in two and their brain implodes in on itself. They fall to the ground with a pathetic thud. Their heinous soul falls into the great nothingness so no reincarnation shall arise from it. The thing inhabiting the children will keep them blind until they are away from the body in order to protect them from the sight.
@herobean282 жыл бұрын
Oh God I remember seeing the story on the sub and being like ‘there’s no way crab king will cover this this is too disgusting’ but you have proven to be stronger than I am
@ArcCaravan2 жыл бұрын
1. I am convinced it's a One Piece campaign. 2. This story feels like proof it's better to not do secret sessions or the like. Just have everyone see what happens with each player instead of hiding scenes for "immersion".
@KillerBlaze8 ай бұрын
Yup. Lion definitely has the cat-cat fruit model: mountain lion
@kalajel2 жыл бұрын
The moment a player hits me with the "You're a horrible game master!", my answer is always to answer "Yeah, you're right, I'm a horrible game master. You probably shouldn't be playing with me anymore..." then I ban them.
@LordShonji2 жыл бұрын
"I never do anything useful!" My brother in Christ you made the character!
@heatherharrison2642 жыл бұрын
It's easy for those of us who are listening to this story to say that the creep should be removed immediately upon doing his creepy things. If I were the DM, I probably would, but then, I'm getting old. Well aware of the dwindling time I have left, I'm a lot less willing to waste time putting up with crap than I might have been when I was younger. I don't know the ages of the people in this group, but a lot of people in D&D are younger and/or socially awkward, and they might not have the experience or confidence to promptly remove horrible players or rid themselves of a creepy DM. For them, a situation like this might be the learning experience that teaches them not to put up with it the next time it happens. Furthermore, with friendships that exist outside of the game, it can be hard to remove a problem player from the game without damaging a friendship that might be healthy otherwise. In a case like this, however, I must question whether I would be able to continue a friendship with someone who wants to engage in ERP with an 8-year-old character - something is clearly wrong with this person and I want no part of it.
@rollfaceonkeyboard2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's super easy to say it from an outside perspective. Especially in a situation like this where you're the newcomer to the group. Most of these people are young or socially awkward. The young are much more forgiving. I'm not old for sure but I've got some experience so I can say with confidence I'm good at no. I don't think me 5-10 years ago could say the same.
@laurels4040 Жыл бұрын
@@rollfaceonkeyboard exactly. Especially since we don't know more about OP's age/home situation etc. Not saying that OP shouldn't have acted immediately but I 100% understand why it would be hard, especially since it was one-on-one and they didn't have anyone who could immediately be on their side. I went through Some Shit as a kid and then again when I was a teenager so I know I would've had a REALLY hard time putting a hard stop to this if I was the DM during high school/college Hopefully CritCrab's video about this will help other DMs feel more confident about stopping this behavior immediately.
@ALotOfCancer Жыл бұрын
Im 21, awkward and I have zero tolerance for anything that could be described as gross injustice. It's just a personality thing, I think middle-class kids are used to passive-aggressive behavior because of their boring parents. I'm aggressive-aggresive from growing up poor with shitty conservative military parents.
@kaleeshsynth9994 Жыл бұрын
Also you don't see all the signs in the moment is easier to look back and see what's wrong.
@RobotTanuki Жыл бұрын
I was about to leave a comment on less willing to take crap when you get older. When you are old and have a family and job, dealing with kids and basically have no time for your hobbies and, say, being able to play only once a month? You ain't gonna take dumb sh*t from no punk-ass b**ch who's ruining what little fun you can grasp.
@TLSoulDude Жыл бұрын
Only thing I could think was an edited line from Den of the Drake: "You're not being railroaded, you're being told 'NO'."
@AwolCommander2 жыл бұрын
Seeing Kotoko in the thumbnail is already a red flag for this story alone
@tfergy962 жыл бұрын
I see you’ve…experienced UDG as well.
@zohira1505 Жыл бұрын
"Please... Not... Gen... Tle..."
@AwolCommander Жыл бұрын
@@tfergy96 it certainly was an experience alright
@RadioactiveBear2 жыл бұрын
Brother get the flamer, the HEAVY flamer.
@brotherchaplainsachiel93684 ай бұрын
Not the heavy flamer the multi melta turret
@Baire_6 күн бұрын
How abou redemptor dreadnought t Macro Plasma Incinerator @@brotherchaplainsachiel9368
@acrothdragon2 жыл бұрын
Shutting this behavior down is yeah a given. But as you’ve mentioned it’s not that easy for some when it’s their first time encountering this behavior and likewise a lot of times this behavior can progress slowly. Certain phrases and jokes in character and out might go unnoticed or just ignored. This especially true when online and context is hard to relay on txt chat and even through voice chat when your not seeing this person’s body language. Identifying this behavior early is key and you can bring it up privately to the player that they need to seriously tone it down and if rules are already in place remind them this behavior isn’t appropriate. And players should also make sure the dm doesn’t try to force situations that’s not appropriate on the party or another player
@andrejg41362 жыл бұрын
Like personally, I think people severely underestimate how hard it is for some people to be in a position of authority and make certain executive decisions. The skill of firing people is something a lot of new managers have to actively learn and be mentored on, and being a GM or some kind of community manager and throwing out people who are this troublesome is a skill that has to be similarly developed.
@acrothdragon2 жыл бұрын
@@andrejg4136 I've rarely met anyone that wants to fire or drop someone out of the gate. It's something that takes time to build skill into and be able to recognize problems and read how people talk and behave and when to step in.
@gandalftheantlion2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes this behavior comes out of left field and its not as obvious.
@The_gaming_archaeologist Жыл бұрын
As someone who doesn't like conflict, it can be difficult and often I worry that I'm the one who is in the wrong.
@acrothdragon Жыл бұрын
@@The_gaming_archaeologist it’s just one of those times you might have to see it unfold as a player or DM and learn from it. Myself I can remember on four occasions where the joking was insensitive as with most cringe like behavior it started off small and innocuous wasn’t after someone did complain and yeah the first time I felt like I blew it and wasn’t paying attention.
@MegaLpso Жыл бұрын
"I didn't end up kicking them until months later" as a person who's meek and I'd terrified of others getting mad at me...I can't feel sympathy for OP here.
@amethysttvgl16012 жыл бұрын
Gonna take a stab in the dark and say the stories are about one piece. Pirates, fishmen, scientist who "turns into fog", different islands, ect... I could be wrong but that's what it sounds like to me.
@justinbent93202 жыл бұрын
Also Lion transforming into a faster form sounds like a Zoan user
@Another_Hibiki2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i only realized it when he mentioned the "kinda navegator" and noticed how each character had a role similar to the Straw Hats.
@wiiblii85842 жыл бұрын
@@Another_Hibiki I wouldn't say that points to anything, because absolutely every single crew of anything has a specific role
@Another_Hibiki2 жыл бұрын
@@wiiblii8584 Yeah, but the only pirate-related story where i've heard swordsmen, navigator and inventor as roles of the crew was in One Piece.
@user-qy8kk8yx4q2 жыл бұрын
yeah, it sure sounds like that.
@Prometheus14642 жыл бұрын
It's victim blaming to say "you should have banned them sooner." We all live and learn, it would only be helpful advice if it was currently happening.
@firepuppies4086 Жыл бұрын
Homie is gonna end up treated quite "gently" one of these days if he doesn't shape up... he'll even get a nice orange suit.
@shins.u11 ай бұрын
foul 💀
@firepuppies408611 ай бұрын
@@shins.u hey, try to touch kids, you'll get that treatment in prison
@shins.u11 ай бұрын
@@firepuppies4086 fair
@coyoteink2 жыл бұрын
As a DM on roll20 that has ran several games. There are alot of pedophiles on roll20. Out of the 20 or so games ive ran and played in, ive encountered 6. An example is a 40+ year old man (some games you fill out applications to join roll20 games so i knew his age) playing a 7 year old child...adventurer in a dnd module. A child adventurer made no sense to me but the DM allowed it. This 7 year old proceeded to hit on grown men as well as children its age...i left the game with people wonder why i had a problem with his lol so funny character. Another was halfing that tried to molest kids because "his character couldn't tell the difference between a human child and a halfling." Lol so funny right? I kicked the dude without a word from my game. I dont care if im the a**hole.
@firstnamelastname7244 Жыл бұрын
You absolutely are not the a-hole. You would be an a-hole if you let them stay in the game. Not being confrontational and allowing a problem to fester is one thing, but not even wanting to kick a pretador out of the space that _you_ control is inexcusable.
@TinyBoxBin Жыл бұрын
How do they not realize its outting them as actual pedos...
@RutraNickers Жыл бұрын
the first one I can kinda see as a joke-character depending on both context and how the dude was roleplaying it, but the second one I completely agree with you that it was creepy af
@judasmichael8401 Жыл бұрын
@@RutraNickers you seriously dont understand how the first example is just as bad? Like pedos dont portray it as "the children liked it/came on to them"?? Get your head out of your ass.
@shroomer82942 жыл бұрын
Read the thumbnail as “I crab her” cause… you know, crab.
@TonySamedi2 жыл бұрын
He thinks that was railroading he didn't get to SA a 8 year old? I admit I don't DM, but I have plan for if I ever do and someone tries to do an SA scene. Lighning strikes, you die. In my world, anyone doing that crime dies, instantly. You're atomized and no form of magic can ever bring you back, not even a Wish spell.
@midnightflare98792 жыл бұрын
Someone call Big Mom! Tell her someone's mean to kids out there!
@robertbryant82432 жыл бұрын
Setting aside, for the moment, Lion's more problematic behavior, I have to wonder if he has ever actually been on a mountain.
@shoelessbandit15812 жыл бұрын
He's a discord groomer type I don't think he's climbed a mildly tall hill
@GrimmDelightsDice2 жыл бұрын
Idk if OP just didn't include it, but if they didn't tell the other players about this guy trying to get gross with a **literal child** that's a little concerning. I'd want to know if someone like that was in my group/life.
@firstnamelastname7244 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, which is why I don't have sympathy for OP, unlike most other people here. I understand that confrontation is hard, and in most other circumstances, I would agree with most people and have sympathy for people who haven't quite learned to deal with problem players yet. However, when there is an obvious predator in your midst and you don't even so much as tell the other people about them, that is incredibly irresponsible. I really hope there weren't any minors in that group. What makes it worse is that this was online, so OP probably also could have reported him to site authorities (I'm not sure where exactly they played but I imagine any website has a report function for this exact behavior) _without even confronting him._ Not to mention that you could just do a simple ban, then block without saying anything to them, then tell the rest what a scumbag he is. I just feel like OP had way too many options and oppourtunities, and doesn't really have an excuse for allowing this putrid skidmark of a person to hang around.
@beingalittleextra Жыл бұрын
It's clear the players knew Nutmeg was a minor because the question "Do you ever think Adult thoughts" was asked specifically. If Nutmeg was an adult there would be no reason to phrase it that way.
@lulolie Жыл бұрын
@@firstnamelastname7244 they said at the end that they did tell everything, but only while they were drunk because they were afraid of "ruining their friendship." Honestly I'm concerned how OP would react if they found out someone was creeping on a child irl, because not only not kicking them, but *not telling anyone else* because they don't want to ruin their reputation is a horrendously bad sign.
@sasukedemon8888888888 ай бұрын
16:45 "Ah, this one player is clearly bullying the shit out of the DM. Making them cry, end game sessions early, and causing them visible and audible distress every single time they interract. I guess I should leave and not even remotely try to stop the clear and explicit bullying that I am fully aware of."
@UniGya Жыл бұрын
"I never do anything useful!" I fail to see how child molestation would be useful
@calebbraun95052 жыл бұрын
"Am I really so useless as a player? No, the DM is to blame." - Lion
@NihilistCoomerLord2 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail giving me PTSD
@a.v.j56642 жыл бұрын
Explain please
@dr.gnomeson9042 жыл бұрын
Why?
@PancakemonsterFO42 жыл бұрын
LET`S PLAY! [it´s a childrens world.mp3]
@ressa35242 жыл бұрын
@@a.v.j5664 The girl from the thumbnail Kotoko from Danganronpa: Ultra Despair Girls. She is a child (around 10 I think?) and was heavily sexually abused and prostituted by her parents to a producer and you can kind of paint a picture what way this is going
@Thelifeofbudder2 жыл бұрын
Not played the game yet, but it's from Danganronpa Despair Girls if I'm remembering correctly, that particular character has some kind of fucked up trauma but, I'm not sure since I've yet to play the game. Heard the games good though, but you'd have to play the main series games to understand this spin-off.
@zixserro1 Жыл бұрын
First Part: I love how when OP doesn't allow the guy to have his way because it's gross and makes her super uncomfortable, his first reaction is to accuse her of railroading and nerfing his character and making him feel useless. All things a DM could do to take agency away from a player, but not what this DM was doing whatsoever. He was essentially throwing bad-DM buzzwords at them to see if he could guilt-trip them into getting their way. Also, if OP wasn't sure of who the problem was in the situation, she could've had Nutmeg act uneasy around Lion, and the next time she was with any of the other PCs, talk to them about how Lion did something that freaked her out, and when his actions are explained to another player, gauge their reaction to see that OP was in the right 100%.
@silenthound81162 жыл бұрын
Great advice at the end about being the boss of your game, rooting out problem players. It isn't about being controlling over people, so don't take any accusations. This is your game JUST AS MUCH as it is the player's game. You set the boundaries and they agree with you at session 0, and it is up to you to maintain the boundaries. Take authority, DMs. Stand in that and don't allow for these kinds of players to get away with ruining your game.
@scooby45247 Жыл бұрын
"...breaking his immersion by not letting him do this." ME: do what exactly? why dont you tell every one what it is you want me to let you do??
@medman6649 Жыл бұрын
The moment that question was asked, game over. No more role playing, it's game over. I feel bad for the OP for being put in this situation in the first place.
@Galaxykuma2 жыл бұрын
Just seeing the thumbnail. Knowing who that character is and what they've been through. I.. I'm scared.
@lunatic0verlord102 жыл бұрын
Man, Lion is like all the perverted thoughts of Sanji and Brook without any restraint or redeeming qualities.
@kurosakikun962 жыл бұрын
Ironically gives me Absolom vibes, just missing the invisibility powers
@lunatic0verlord102 жыл бұрын
@@kurosakikun96 Right. Forgot about him.
@introvertedjo123817 күн бұрын
@@kurosakikun96that’s exactly what I thought 😂
@jameszoeller1517 Жыл бұрын
I would've lost my bit if that little girl had just started giving a lecture on the US Tax Code when they mentioned 'adult thoughts'.
@Calebgoblin2 жыл бұрын
This kind of scenario hits very close to home for me and it makes my blood positively boil.
@ConnorTheUndying2 жыл бұрын
By the Danganronpa thumbnail and its subtitles... Yeah, I'm a little worried.
@patriciestefkova5912 жыл бұрын
"I'm hesitant to stand against the victim for not [verb] soon enough" is a painful sentence. o.o
@mewhen91522 жыл бұрын
i once climbed a mountain and my vision became so good i didnt need my glasses anymore
@therea1wyvern2 жыл бұрын
Unless EXPLICITLY AGREED UPON, D&D is not for fulfilling any kind of gross fantasies like this. People like Lion disgust me. At least OP has learned from this experience and will stop anything like this from happening in the future.
@theratking0132 жыл бұрын
Well if i was a DM i would say "The God of Innocence and Protector of Children smites your PC to Death and Banish you from this Realm" aka kicked,banned and blocked from the Game and Servers. Should he have a history of shit like that maybe give the Police and anon hint about that Guy if possible.
@PaladinGear152 жыл бұрын
This kinda crap always makes me sick, I'm glad the DM didn't try "letting it slide" as I frequently hear in these stories.
@aegisScale2 жыл бұрын
Felt the bit about being confrontational, I've had to mentally practice *_a lot_* for creepfucks like this, because if I got into this very very bad scenario unprepared, I'd probably find myself in OP's shoes. *Especially when he sticks with the 8-year-old in question but does nothing else immediately after.*
@kittimer Жыл бұрын
Every time I watch/listen to these stories with "adult situations" in games gone wrong, I'm reminded of and grateful for my DM and how she handles adult themes and situations in game. My DM is a close friend of mine and everyone in our group, she, herself, happens to be aro+ace but she doesn't at all deprive the rest of us of adult situations in-game. She handles it in the greatest way possible for our group, essentially giving us enough freedom to lead into an adult encounter and allowing us to play out *just enough* of the encounter for context between characters (as in if the encounter will go well or not and the states of mind between them) *without actually performing* the encounter itself. This way, myself and other players are satisfied that we *did* get to have an adult encounter between our characters and develop their relationships in adult ways, but no one (including the DM) is left uncomfortable on the sidelines waiting for the game to carry on ~ We've been playing out adult encounters in this manner for 5 years now (with MANY suggested encounters at this point), and its been an excellent balance for us! Edit: formatting
@tymoore2117 Жыл бұрын
In all honesty thats how i like my games to run, if there is any adult stuff. Its all in the side rp channel or their own thing either messaging between them or in a sperate dedicated channel for that. Definitely dont want to run a full erp wasting other peoples time.
@lanir9543 Жыл бұрын
When someone spends a lot of time telling you how bad you are it can be hard to sort out whether they're right or not when you aren't feeling that great about yourself. But if they keep coming back, it's a big clue that they're not being honest with you. They're just telling you things to deliberatey make you feel bad so you don't think about them critically. It functions as a smokescreen to let them do whatever they want. And that's how you know they're lying to you. It doesn't matter what situation you're in with them. Living together for financial reasons, just friends, married, it's all the same if they're treating you this way. They have other options. If they're not taking them, they're just lying to you.
@ulvemann432 жыл бұрын
How the hell does anyone see someone trying to do lewds with an 8 year old, AND other underage characters, and not get an immediate boot? You can't excuse that as just trying to give another chance or whatnot, christ. And then we have absolute manchildness on top of that regarding the rest, just terrible.
@Zynet_Eseled2 жыл бұрын
This is where one needs to genuinely make a report of the player to police just as a person of interest to monitor.
@relentless41 Жыл бұрын
I know right thats what I was thinking
@Sleepy_Cabbage2 жыл бұрын
can we get more wholesome stories? lately a lot of them have been just upsetting to hear about
@ParsureArts2 жыл бұрын
P l e a s e bless us with some wholesomeness king crab
@dead_vibes2 жыл бұрын
Please, this part!
@EternalChronicler2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who wants this.
@tsifirakiehl42502 жыл бұрын
PLEASE!!!
@forgenorman30252 жыл бұрын
Yes, please can we do some stories that _don't_ revolve around se*ual predators for a change?? I submitted a story not long ago that's just the usual D&D silliness, maybe if we submit a bunch like that he'll have more to choose from.
@RiveroftheWither2 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to fault op or other DMS and players like this who stick out bad situations like this because they're too scared. Anxiety and low self esteem are A LOT harder to get over than people without seem to think. It literally overrides your brain and yeets the part responsible for rational thought, emotional control and logic. Sprinkle in gas lighting like what Lion was doing and you end up questioning your sanity or even where to draw the line from reality and the fantasy you've been led to believe. Obviously in hindsight OP should have kicked him and told the other players what happened the moment Lion wanted to roleplay statutory grape with a fictional 8 year old. Especially after it got worse when his first response to said fictional 8 year olds refusal was to immediately turn to force and then rage at her still getting away despite him being more "powerful". Fantasies like that more often than not hide genuine desires, never believe the excuse "it's just a fantasy so theirs no real harm to it". No one rps that crap as just something to do to pass the time. That said, if you're in some situation like that and you panic, or don't know what to do, or succumb to gaslighting and get convinced you're in the wrong. It's not your fault but at the very least please tell someone, the other party members, a friend outside the game, family, even posting it on Reddit or some other social media, anonymously if you can. They can help clear the doubt that the problem person is putting in your mind.
@Qwerty95ish Жыл бұрын
I've never got this mentality with "insert emotional issue here" making something not your fault. I have anger issues. Most of the day I want to hit something. On rare occasion (it was less rare when I was younger) that anger get's the better of me. It's been a long time since I lost my temper and attacked a person (well over a decade) but as far as objects it's more in the months category. Anger issues are alot harder to get over then people without them think. Is it not my fault when I put my fist through a wall?
@RiveroftheWither Жыл бұрын
@@Qwerty95ish Anger issues aren't remotely like anxiety. You trying to compare them makes as much sense as me saying "As someone with ADHD I just don't get why schizophrenics need to take medication to function. I don't, therefore no one should have to.". It's beyond stupid.
@Qwerty95ish Жыл бұрын
@@RiveroftheWither Both are your emotions getting the better of you. Schizophrenia is a literal legal insanity as it removes your ability to tell right from wrong. Low self esteem, anger issues and ADHD are not. You need a better comparison.
@RiveroftheWither Жыл бұрын
@@Qwerty95ish So on top of not knowing anything about anxiety, you don't know anything about Schizophrenia either. Conversation over, I'm not wasting my time with a moron anymore.
@blissfulrain Жыл бұрын
@@Qwerty95ish You don't have a very good understanding of mental illness. In any case your initial comparison was faulty. There's a huge difference between preventing yourself from causing harm and knowing exactly how to protect yourself when you're abuser is actively playing mind games with you. Anxiety issues aren't just an emotional regulation problem. It's not simply being extremely anxious it effects the way you precieve and think about situations.
@andrewcarney30882 жыл бұрын
Man these past couple of stories has been dark af
@ethangriffin3935 Жыл бұрын
The fact that more people don't immediately say "All right, gtfo, you're done" in situations like this is incredibly concerning.
@brendantuthill64912 жыл бұрын
The free space on a critcrab bingo card is "session 0"
@BlackClaws Жыл бұрын
Lion sounds like the bonus DLC problem player; Wants to be the MC, blames the Gm for not "making him useful", tries to ERP with minors, steals, is creepy and tries to tear down the DM for not catering to his abuses. Much sorrow for the Dm, I hope things eventually improved for them.
@x0uzumakinaruto0x2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that the best way to deal with players who want to push stuff outside of the normal boundaries, such as no sexualizing child characters, you should give them a chance to realize you're not going to put up with it. Ask them a few times if it's something they really want to do, and describe how it feels to their character. They may complain that you're controlling their character, but if they try to sexualize children, then they don't deserve to be in control anyway. "Are you sure you want to do this?" "Yes!" "You start to get a bad feeling in the pit of your stomach. Something tells you that this isn't a good idea. Are you sure?" "Yes." "You feel like this is your last chance to back out, before something happens you may regret. Are you REALLY sure?" "Yes." "As you try to proceed, a god smites you for your villainous and indecent behavior. You are dead. You get no saving rolls, as it was instantaneous. The attack was so intense, your physical body has been disintegrated, so you get no death saves either."
@shineyluna12682 жыл бұрын
0:38 well theres your problem right there
@Patrick_Archibald2 жыл бұрын
"as you touch Nutmeg she actually turns into Tyr the god of justice and immediately portals you to the Abyss never to be seen again *banned*"
@ramirezthesilvite2 жыл бұрын
That's not a red flag. That's a huge, blinking neon sign.
@Mostly_Crazy2 жыл бұрын
I can't help but wonder why there are so many child npcs in a dnd game, let alone an 8 year old being brought into a weird secret mansion science lab. I've never had any reason to have children as anything more than backround npcs and that alone just comes off as weird to me. This isn't to justify Lion's behavior at all.
@jonnyg98652 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was wondering. Also, I didn't realize Nutmeg was a child until it was too late. A scientist that can turn into mist? Thought that was an adult. The OP went out of their way to describe the three year old after all.
@jurv102 жыл бұрын
This struck me as insanely weird as well.
@rev05682 жыл бұрын
@@jonnyg9865 Eh. I assume there's a reason for it and didn't really see much of an issue. Tbh I was fully expecting Lion to go for the other youngins too. But yeah. Details about Nutmeg and the like and why they are the way they are is likely just because he more decided to add slight context, instead of full.
@cody-adricharper58482 жыл бұрын
I just figured "eh, anime weirdness." Granted, I'm not an anime fan but anime always seemed really weird to me. Also anime, and jrpg's seem to have an overabundance of children. Final Fantasy VIII's oldest party member was a teacher who was 17. So, yeah. Anime weirdness.
@shoelessbandit15812 жыл бұрын
@@cody-adricharper5848 I guess you can't be too surprised to run a game based around an anime then having anime fans do their thing. Scorpions and frogs and such
@Egg-d4mn3d2 жыл бұрын
Using Kotoro (I think that's her name, I haven't stopped by the dangan fandom in a while) in the thumbnail is disgustingly perfect
@tfergy962 жыл бұрын
Kotoko. And as someone who actually likes the game, this thumbnail is indeed depressingly accurate.
@ressa35242 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail makes me fear for how terrible the story will go
@tfergy962 жыл бұрын
Another victim of Ultra Despair Girls, I’m guessing?
@ressa3524 Жыл бұрын
@@tfergy96 sadly yes and imo the most horrifying one
@kostazateasealot3245 Жыл бұрын
Anytime you flirt with an NPC or make an NPC uncomfortable you're making the dungeon master uncomfortable.
@watermaster51545 ай бұрын
Unless it's atalked about beforehand and you have consent to flirt with the npcs or planned with them to form a romance with two characters.
@MrGamernova2 жыл бұрын
"You know what lion, how about I tell some experienced DMS about this in a few game stores, libraries, conventions, offices, and let them weight in? Oh no? You don't need me to do that anymore? Well ok then." (Does that anyways)
@MrBruh-tp6vh2 жыл бұрын
I was in my college cafeteria with my friends. I saw critcrab uploaded, then I read the thumbnail. I said quite loudly "THE FUCK!?"
@sharkjumpingwalrus67442 жыл бұрын
The only reason I would continue a game if someone said something like that would be to fuck with them and making a joke of their character before giving them the boot. But, as you said, hindsight is better and people don't expect this type of behavior. There is a reason that taking refuge in audacity works, as unreliable as it is. Some things are just so shocking or outright disturbing that it turns your brain to snow, and makes it so you can't really think about the situation.
@Holy_Zen Жыл бұрын
"You really should be a better DM." "I am a reflection of the players I have to deal with."
@Twimster4787 ай бұрын
I've no sympathy for the DM unfortunately. As a DM, you need to be able to confront this type of behavior. Getting quiet and not taking action immediately was a horrible move.
@brokerfan600 Жыл бұрын
The Danganronpa thumbnail though
@ItsCreaidan2 жыл бұрын
If anyone ever tries to have a sexual interaction with minors in dnd, quick them out. It doesn't matter if it's your best friend, or even family. As Gordon Ramsay would say: "GET OUT! Get out! Fucking Donkey!"
@shoelessbandit15812 жыл бұрын
Honestly I just ban sex in all my games. Best you're going to get is a fallout esque fade to black
@t-vann48 Жыл бұрын
I disagree, sexuality is dope to explore in games like DnD as long as all players and the DM consent to that, not this pedophile shit though that's just fuckun gross.
@ItsCreaidan Жыл бұрын
@@t-vann48 My bad. I meant the pedophilic romantic trash. That is when you cut them off.
@TeasilaNova2 жыл бұрын
low self esteem might not even be the problem because some people just have the inexperience to say "no" you don't have to have a reason at the moment to reject actions taking place just that these actions make you uncomfortable. showing you have boundaries and having people respect other's boundaries when comes to consent is a great start.
@skyfox585 Жыл бұрын
"I'm stronger than her she shouldnt be able to just get away". That is a terrifyingly sick thought in context. The dude is absolutely fucked in the head.
@cinnamoon4232 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is cursed for those who know.
@rbspidey2 жыл бұрын
Man why did that guy have to do One Piece dirty like this
@jackhastings89852 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness the girl was a logia
@Another_Hibiki2 жыл бұрын
Sanji should have appeared... showing up amazingly breaking the wall and holding the dude in a single kick and then proceding to give a piece of his mind. Or Chris Hansem
@MxLucidLyrix Жыл бұрын
My lord that Danganronpa thumbnail gave me flashbacks
@Pipkiablo2 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine had to throw someone out of his campaign and stop being friends with him after he tried to make his character assault an NPC that was directly based on my friend's 13-year-old daughter. The worst part is they knew each other since high school and he knew his daughter and that the NPC was based on her because he wasn't subtle about it, so he didn't want to take any chances that he might put her in danger by keeping him around. At least in this situation no actual children were in danger (probably), but it's still disgusting and I'm glad the OP shot it down.
@Sgt-Wolf2 жыл бұрын
You all know what the question is. And you all sure as hell know the answer.
@atdmurkeywateer2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the thumbnail I absolutely knew it was going to be a REALLY horrible one.
@Bacon8t0r Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much I have Filthy Frank screams in my head on loop watching these creeps. Holy shit
@GummiSammi Жыл бұрын
Lion: does dumb things that make him useless. Also Lion: I'm useless. Also Also Lion: *Surprised Pikachu Face*