No Time To Die - Initial Reaction (Lots of Spoilers)

[@shayZero]

I just called Rami Malak's character Freddy Murdery in my head the whole way.

[@MrJeffcoley1]

Same. “Freddie Mercury sure is a dick in this one.”

[@marcoparada6652]

I called him Igor.

[@Sithari66]

awesome lol.

[@AirShark95]

I called him Eliott

[@Markmywords803]

Genius!👍😃

[@blastfromthepast8344]

Personally, I feel that the Daniel Craig era should be seen as separate from the other films. This is a stand alone series of five films; a saga with a beginning, middle and end. Somehow, he is not the same James Bond that we saw between 1962 and 2002. This era was a five film sidestep away from the main line. They need to get back to business as usual.

[@Pantheragem]

I think this is a good take. However, we all know that the Bond of those 40 years will never return.

[@davidstevens2782]

%100 agree

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

I think the Craig trilogy is great. Casino Royale is a thrill, even though I do not understand Poker. It didn't affect my enjoyment of the film. Quantum of Solace was...a thing. Feels like a Hollywood product than a movie. But its still watchable. And most importantly, Craig is crushing it! Skyfall was where it should have ended. I felt it would have been perfect. He's old. Has a crisis. Comes back like hell, reminds everyone that he still belongs and why. Spectre was trash. Start to finish. Trash. Craig is so done with the role. It takes away from the entire movie. There's Pierce Brosnan Bond movies that are bad, but even so, Brosnan is having fun and I can watch it for that. Spectre, I couldn't. Craig had just quit trying. The way Jennifer Lawrence quit trying on X-Men Apocalypse. The way Harrison Ford was done with Han Solo at the end. The same way Ben Affleck was done playing Batman in the JL reshoots for the theatrical version. Haven't seen No Time to Die yet. But I don't care anymore. And if they've killed Craig, then... I'm not gonna watch it. I cannot wait to see Daniel Craig in more movies and in different movies.

[@The_Rude_French_Canadian]

I never liked this James Bond, the first one was good but it wasn’t a good bond movie

[@PTEPoliticsTechandEconomy]

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[@beerkeg6965]

Anna De Armas was the highlight of this movie. She can act, has comedic timing, looks reasonably convincing in action scenes and, let's face, is no strain on the optic nerve. I hope she has a big career ahead of her.

[@rayunited2010foryou]

No, the fight scene with three trained and armed male professionals was too unrealistic, cringe and woke. Convincing my foot. Yes, she's gorgeous and a good actress but the fights are too meh.

[@jasonu3741]

100% she stole the show you cant only save your suspension of belief for Bond being shot THIS many times and still being a functioning able to beat so many trained guards, and also not being shot more often but then being like "sorry no way a woman can ever do that". you gotta have some give and take here.

[@lizzieck2576]

I think her character was absolutely cringe (it’s the script’s fault).

[@rayunited2010foryou]

@@lizzieck2576 Yes, I felt that too. She's beautiful and talented but her scenes especially the fights were so cringeworthy and poorly written.

[@Steril707]

@@ProjectAthleteAL haha, this.

[@wendysbrian1]

In Bond 26, Oscar Isaac will have a role and say "Some how, Bond came back."

[@rubix4195]

Is Clive Owen too old to play Bond? T_T I have always liked him to be the next James Bond.

[@wheeliebin18]

"They spy now?" "They spy now!"

[@okradiohead7430]

Star Wars: "The dead speak!" Bond: "The Dead Are Alive"

[@tlshortyshorty5810]

Funny considering he’s been cast as Solid Snake

[@robirvine6970]

He LITTERALLY makes this joke in the video.

[@hobbo420]

For me a Bond movie is the opening scene,the song, Bond and Moneypenny exchanging banter,Bond and M discussing the threat, Bond travelling to some exotic location to confront his antagonist, meets a beautiful girl who falls for him and assists him on his mission, meets the villain, learns his plan and tries to thwart him.

[@directedby100]

Impressive. It occurs to me any indie filmmaker could make a Bond-like character who openly & aggressively expresses his contempt for all the sacred satanist cows that are kept in place, and it would find a fanatic audience starved for such alpha male hero stories. And throw in humor & OK action scenes, with 2 such movies ready to go before audiences with 8 - 12 months between, and a 3rd in the pipe. And a new franchise would take off.

[@weswolever7477]

And Q being annoyed with Bond

[@LucefieD]

For sure, each bond film is a stand alone adventure, trying to tie them together is fucking stupid. Like the CIA chick in cuba shoulda been the bond girl, Rami should have been the main villian from the start and they should have just left blofeld in prison cus he got thwarted in a different movie.

[@chadbuchanan7044]

I think this may have been the first Bond movie not to include him sleeping with at least two women...

[@abigailslade3824]

I think he movie “the Rock” was a better way of ending a Bond run.

[@mala6238]

It endeed is.

[@gem.dionisio]

John Mason is Bond. ;p

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

Damn, that would've been one of the greatest Bond movies ever. Mason = Bond. A proper, respectful send-off.

[@abigailslade3824]

@@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 there is a fan theory saying it is just that worth checking out

[@abigailslade3824]

@@gem.dionisio well of course he is 😜

[@makarymakarzewski5427]

If someone had told me, back in 1989, when I watched Licence to kill, that some day Bond will be a sad, miserable, unhappy old man, who eventually dies, I would not believe it. The problem with Craig's Bond films is that they wanted to deepen his character, but the nature of blockbusters itself does not allow it, so these films are half-cooked: too shallow to be an A-class drama and too grim to be a laid-back entertainment. To me, Craig's Bond is deprived of fun, style and sense of adventure.

[@gkroll8467]

No time to care the film was terrible bond used to be fun

[@harrysecombegroupie]

I think the writers got the balance of fun action movie and moving character drama perfect in Casino Royale. They just kept failing after that though.

[@rayunited2010foryou]

His Bond films are made to look gritty and dark but ended up being bland with zero character development. This series was a Jason Bourne ripoff!

[@RGK93]

@@harrysecombegroupie Unpopular opinion: Skyfall > Casino Royale.

[@cinemapigeon4898]

Skyfall and Casino Royale are pretty great movies. They're so good they make all pre Craig Bonds look goofy and silly (just Austin Powers). The Jason Bourne effect was positive, and while it sucks the Craig era only contained a few really good Bond movies out of 5 attempts, I'm still happy we got a few good ones (although 2012 was a long time ago).

[@vellichor7676]

Daniel Craig's run has revealed a more emotionally affected Bond. Perhaps that isn't a bad thing... but I prefer, and miss, the Brosnan Bond, the Moore Bond, the Connery Bond; a James Bond who isn't so caught up in his personal, vulnerable events and instead is a man with a deadly, horrible, serious job and sleeps around and drinks in order to cope with it.

[@CursedWheelieBin]

You can re-watch that anytime however, can’t you? I appreciated something different. They managed to somehow balance silly spy stuff with serious characterisation. No easy task

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

Agreed. This Bond is way too emotional. That's never a good thing in a spy who gets sent on utterly critical missions. I also hated how Bond was complaining about getting old after 3 movies. Come on, Moore and Connery did like 5-6???

[@spendsshanks6050]

@@CursedWheelieBin No they didn’t

[@KasaiKouhai]

@@spendsshanks6050 they definitely did

[@dblezi]

Of course he is overly emotional. The west is feminized. So making a popular character coveted by men (pre 21st century) more girly goes with the narrative today.

[@DextRAR]

For me the way they killed him was so disappointing. It made his character feel like it had no progression. Casino Royale: ends with him wanting to step away from the spy life and settle down, but it gets ripped away from him He then spends the next few movies barely wanting to be a spy Spectre ending / start of No Time to Die: retires and wants to step away from the spy life but it again gets taken away from him End of No Time to Die: could finally retire and have a family, but it gets taken away from him and he dies Like where is the progression there? It would have made much for thematic sense for him to actually get to retire and it would have closed his story arc

[@markpugh6808]

Maybe Craig did a Harrison Ford with Solo only agreed to do the role on one condition that they kill him off as didn't Craig say after the last one he would rather slit his wrists than play Bond again

[@SolarDragon007]

Yeah they've just been repeating themselves after Casino Royale/Quantum.

[@luxurybuzz3681]

Each movie he retires but comes back lol Reminds me of Walker in MI: Fallout saying: " How many times has Hunt's government betrayed him, disavowed him, cast him aside? How long before a man like that has had enough?" IMF is disavowed and Ethan is hunted in every MI movie lol

[@pr-tj5by]

Dext.RAR, That's what happens when you try to replace REAL Bonds like Connery Moore and Brosnan with the likes of Dalton and Craig.....

[@robertjones9598]

Not dramatic enough. Need a hero Christ figure to self-sacrifice for the greater good, the biggest myth of Western society.

[@akent12]

The main problem with Felix is that he tells bond he wants to go back to his family and tell them bla blz bla. At that moment I knew he's gonna die

[@BigBossBernie]

@@judeconstantine2767 And Bond was given his victory cigar... All these obvious death flags.

[@brianlogan4243]

Yep, the classic trope

[@darkshines800]

MENDOZZAAAAA!!!

[@00pugsly48]

I thought the line about him being his ‘brother’ was a bit forced. They’ve shared like 10 mins screen time in 5 films.

[@LucefieD]

@@00pugsly48 right but it's definitely implied that they've worked together for literally like 20 years it's just not shown on screen.

[@IndyCrewInNYC]

My bet is they did reshoots to minimize Bond being emasculated by what's her face. Watch the alternate original footage turn up eventually.

[@michaelplowman8674]

#MeToo. I think they looked at the reaction tot he early trailers, did a few re-shoots "to update the tech in the movie" and made a few dialogue changes.

[@wanderingtravellerAB99]

I think you're just making shit up.

[@colinewan2320]

They can turn up as much original footage as they like, people won't be watching it. They killed him.

[@little_dandelion]

@@michaelplowman8674 Well, Midnight's Edge commented that there was an earlier screening long ago and the audience reaction was so catastrophic, they went into panic. Then magically, we had that story of the reshoot because of the outdated cell phones. Maybe the initial version was really an indescribable woke fest.

[@stijnvdv2]

@@michaelplowman8674 Yeah, I think that they patched it up with ducktape and bandages after management at MGM realized how badly they fucked up financially and that the movie was going to be an absolute disaster based on the test-audience response and the online mockery of their 1st trailer. So much so that 'it's not about the money, it's about the message' was a fantasy they could no longer afford. The fact that they only let it come out when MGM was bought up by Amazon and the quite quick release afterwards tells you how much the management were sweating over whether this movie was gonna bankrupt the company. Even with the popularity of the franchise; I ain't seeing it making the 900 mil to break even. However with Amazon I don't expect any difference; remember they have to virtue signal to hide their business practices and the fact that Bezos sees black people as unfit for management; even 'unfit and too lazy' to work a blue collar job, so never extents their contract after a certain period of time.... so if anything I expect more woke virtue signaling coming out of Bond from now on, not less to hide these nasty shenanigans.

[@nealsterling8151]

I'd say we take some beloved romantic comedy francises (are there any?!?) and rplace the female protagonists with a big, hairy Muscle monster guy and add some explosions, fistfights, car chases, swordfights and one liners! Because you know, THAT was missing in these movies all the time! As soon as the fans of the previous movies start complaining, we (the producers/directors) insult them as man hating, cat ladies that are a relic of a bygone era.

[@exol511]

Bond was not replaced tho?

[@bighands69]

You are clearly joking. I would never do that with a romantic comedy that women love. It would be taking away something from their culture.

[@whos-the-stiff]

Start with Bridesmaids, Feig needs to be paid back for Ghostbusters, the ground zero for all this woke crap and attacking fans when we say we don't like it.

[@cockshield]

I think the women in those films need to be more sensitive to the needs of their men, and have their shirts beautifully ironed and their dinners ready at 7:30 sharp!

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

@@whos-the-stiff The ground zero for the woke deconstruction of franchises was actually MAd Max Fury Road.

[@captainbeastwinger4940]

Logan : the character is old and retired finds out he has a daughter dies at the end Avengers endgame: Tony stark is getting old and retired has a 4-5 year old daughter dies at the end No time to die: bond is old and retired finds out he has a 4-5 year old year old daughter dies at the end Edit: yeah Logan did it well but now everyone's ripping it off

[@fredball2132]

Logan did it better than the others

[@oldfatbastad6053]

i see a pattern forming

[@Samaritan38]

Star Wars Sequel Trilogy: Luke Skywalker, took a whif and dies as a coward. Han Solo dies a deadbeat dad and got stabbed and Rey has Goddess powers, steals their OT stuff and entitles herself as a "Skywalker".... (Sarcastically) what pattern?

[@thibaldus3]

Exactly what I thought.

[@katarn848]

@@thibaldus3 Isn't Logan a bit in line with the comic's. Thought he has a like daughter/female clone in cartoon series ?

[@Reoyeah]

To be fair, I think that it was a really interesting idea to make a five-movies-long story arc for James Bond. It wasn't always the best, hell, only two movies were truly great, but I still commend the creators for making a more grounded Bond story. But after 15 years I think it's the right time to reboot the whole thing and make 007 stories more stand-alone again, rather than creating elaborate and extensive arcs. Maybe, some day, we could return to the Daniel Craig era approach, but I think we need a long break before that happens. Anyway, cheers, and long live Bond. James Bond.

[@Hostilehippie13]

I’m surprised nobody has connected the dots on how Bond was able to kill Blofeld. Madeline had it in her perfume and sprayed it on her wrist, that’s why she was told to go see him (so that he would die). Then she backs out but Bond grabs her wrist, so it’s now on his hand. Then he chokes Blofeld and gives it to him. I’ve watched three different reviewers and they’re all like “I guess Bond has it somehow and kills Blofeld or whatever” but like I just got back from watching the movie and it seemed fairly obvious

[@SmartCookie2022]

The problem I foresee with taking Bond back to the Sixties is that it won't be the real Sixties. It'll be the Sixties seen through the same political prism that exists today. It won't be a revival of the permissive Sixties and challenging censorship. Basically, you can't expect to make a movie in today's puritanical times and hope they won't be PC. Also, the movies won't make that much money from product placement and endorsements unless you have a thing for old-fashioned rotary phones and defunct technology.

[@ronniejdio9411]

I'd sit through a sanitized 60s of bonds remakes if I could get a 70s black sploutation remake of live and let die w tom hiddleston as bond, drinking smiling seducing and saying one liners while he mows down poor black henchman ruthlessly

[@richardsoos8902]

Mechanical watches?

[@progressivedemagogue8480]

There’s still a place for the cleverly made antihero. Think sopranos, breaking bad. A good script and director will be able to keep the old Bond tropes but make them creatively palatable for hyper PC audiences. It could even work as a challenge to these times, it’s an opportunity to make a case for the true liberalism of the 60s.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

@@ronniejdio9411 Hiddleston? I suppose he would fight people at la Cage aux Folles?

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

There's nothing that cannot be done. They could do a sort of Mad Men thing.

[@sandorcastle]

I felt similar walking out of this as I did walking out of the Last Jedi. Just that feeling of…what?…why? Feels like the nanobots were added last minute to distance it from the pandemic, doesn’t make any sense really. Especially given the beginning raid on the bio lab where they were joking about Ebola and lunch etc, doesn’t seem the place for nanobots… I believe originally it was just meant to be a bespoke DNA specific engineered bio-weapon. Fits better with Malek’s line which was something about a single hair falls from your head and I have you, or something like that…

[@CthonicSoulChicken]

I'll bet they did it so it wouldn't be banned in China--particularly since the CCP is literally trying to create DNA-specific viruses via CRISPR.

[@jkdbuck7670]

I hate the Last Jedi. And I always will.

[@GoDoddsStudios]

Totally agree. I think they used the first delay to reshoot/edit some of that. The nano bot shite is straight out of Agent Cody banks I’m sure 😂. I still really enjoyed it though

[@thelouisjohnson]

Feel quite lucky I actually genuinely like NTTD and TLJ… feel sorry for you guys that are on the cusp of another multi-year breakup with your favourite franchises… bruh.

[@purefoldnz3070]

@@thelouisjohnson You liked TLJ?? How?

[@TMMReznor]

The Bond movies have always been standalone stories to me and I've watched them as though nothing that happens in them impacts or affects any of the others, unless it's necessary to overtly reference a previous character or plot-line for story purposes.

[@Tommykey07]

There are some minor references to past films. In the prologue to For Your Eyes Only, Bond is visiting the grave of his deceased wife who was killed at the end of On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

[@chronocommander007]

For a serial character, individual, self-contained stories, with some recurring characters and minor references to previous story lines work best. Overarching stories that get dragged out over several films or one or several seasons of TV shows tend to become tedious and often meandering.

[@karelianmghow9095]

@@chronocommander007 Exactly. I think Craig's Bond films are a perfect example of this.

[@violinmerchant]

Lol, Bond dies because he's too toxic to be a part of his own family. You're right that's not woke at all.

[@aftermath5699]

"Why won't you die, Mr. Bond?" "Nanomachines, son!"

[@TheWhyMaster]

Yeah, pretty sure after 30 mins I realised its a worse version of foxdie

[@Unknown-hb3id]

@@TheWhyMaster Yeah, lemme guess. What's next, the lingua franca virus?

[@tlshortyshorty5810]

“You’re pretty good.”

[@urapooper362]

@@Unknown-hb3id it already evolved close to one by the end of it since M and the scientist points out the scope of the virus can be widened to a whole race

[@TheRealBigDan]

One of the key aspects of a Bond movie which I enjoy is that (Usually) Bond always comes out on top, always has the upper hand or a way out. I left the cinema not feeling the same high or buzz of excitement that I got when seeing Casino Royale all those years ago. Just left feeling kind of numb.

[@stanley-fghijk441]

I left feeling both high and numb. Just do loads of cocaine and you can, too!

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

@CEO of Secularism I hated Skyfall so much.

[@devlinallistair5147]

The mission's clear. We need to preserve the films of our past ourselves (bury them in a hole, hermetically sealed, if need be) to show future generations what it was like. Before the dark times. Before the wokeness.

[@hrdley911]

Dude, that was my line! Excellent 👍

[@chelseapoet3664]

The Wokeness is a really excellent title.

[@Samaritan38]

My respects for Sir Ian Fleming to his personal motto..."The World Is Not Enough...without James Bond".

[@tane2K8]

At the end of the credits it says “James Bond will return” maybe the stories that Madeline tells will be the stand alone bond movies, means they can have various actors taking up the role

[@chadbuchanan7044]

I stuck around until the very end just see if that came up.

[@Tusitala1967]

From the books I remember that Vesper Lynn was "the one". In fact, I seem to recall that Bond's experiences with her set the tone for all of Bond's future relationships, and are generally responsible for his attitude towards women.

[@harbl99]

Naomi rides in on Vespa. Well, ain't that just symbolic.

[@waldopepper4069]

nah, she's riding the cotton pony riding in on the vespa.

[@cgh7337]

Was it Green?

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

Actually, it was a Lambretta.

[@rpalmer3393]

Can always count on drinker for an honest no bs review

[@Monke12268]

Whenever I want an honest review, untampered by politics, I go to him

[@krzosu]

Yes and that is why "joUrinalists" hate him so much xD He has credibility - they don't xD

[@Luke101]

Can always count on drinker for being a pessimist

[@bobcorso6357]

@@suzygirl1843 What is Mary Sue/Gary Stu?

[@markportch6526]

Thank you for your review, you are one of the few critics I have any respect left for

[@TheChinatownkid]

I saw it today, sat through the whole end credits .... not one 'In memoriam' for Sean Connery who made the franchise or even Roger Moore who died in 2017. Kinda lets you know how the Broccoli family really felt about them.

[@mrsunshine6936]

I didn’t think Roger Moore had any issues with the Broccolis, although Sean Connery would’ve been almost person non-gratia for slagging Cubby off for ripping him off in the 60’s. And for doing Never Say Never Again. They should of acknowledged them both though, it’s a bit shitty they didn’t.

[@violinmke]

F em all. You got Louis Armstrong warbling his song

[@grantshuster1985]

Wow i didnt make it through the credits but good point if they didnt

[@c.tes9009]

Because it’s not about honouring the past. All of Hollywood is about deconstructing it and creating the future in their own, horrific image.

[@srb-ef3zs]

Can thank the #metoo movement for this lol

[@darrenbeattie1086]

I actually saw this movie in Shanghai, China, where I’ve lived for 4 years. The line about Q being gay was left in, at least in the Chinese theatrical version

[@mowazeem644]

There's one reason, and one reason alone, that they finally put a bullet in the head of James Bond... he's the ultimate exemplar of male heroism, and he's white. On a cultural level, this is a 9/11 moment, and the Bond fandom is slowly realising it. You can see their broken hearts through their dwindling excitement and emotional confusion in these early reviews, they're still processing the fact that Broccoli, Craig, Fukanaga, and the Woke elite - the real world Bond villains - killed our hero. The Woke powers that be flirted with undermining Bond and swapping him out for a black woman, but they saved their final coup de grace until the end. They even had Bond unnecessarily kill himself by wasting the precious minutes in which he could have escaped climbing a ladder to accept his fate. To rub it in, they turned M - Bond's father figure, into a morally questionable incompetent who helped unleash the deadly virus. Casino Royale was a masterpiece which promised great things, but the producers immediately squandered it with four lacklustre sequels which ended in this travesty. Even CR's revolutionary action scenes have given way to lame, uninspired 'action' which has long been left in the dust by Mission Impossible's groundbreaking real stunts... performed by its even older star Tom Cruise. There will be a lot more cope videos but eventually the fandom will realise what's going on here. All I can say is fuck Craig, fuck everyone who did this, and especially fuck Broccoli. Her dad is twisting in his grave at this travesty. Show less

[@thibaldus3]

Exactly what I realized.

[@richd8907]

Brilliantly said. Just ignore these films, go watch some Goldfinger, Thunderball, Live and Let Die, Spy Who Loved Me (hmm, Barbara Bach), License to Kill, Golden Eye... basically any actual Bond film, where the hero struggles but always comes out on top. Proper escapism, needed now more than ever before.

[@purefoldnz3070]

looks like he did he have time to die after all.

[@myron24682468]

Perfectly articulated assessment of the movie and morons behind it - they wrecked it - boycott this film.

[@jskypercussion]

Yep mate they really fucked it up bad. Just when we thought the stench of Die Another Day lingered around way too long, I am afraid this is a rancid set back that really hurts and is going to stink for a long time. I am afraid our franchise has a higher probability of not recovering from this. In my opinion the only way to make Bond great again is to have it return to the 60's and bring it back to it roots with no reference to anything Woke. Henry Cavill would be the perfect man for the role. Keep it organic and believable with the classic original Bond flare, but definitely keep the grit with some brutality. Most importantly we need so really good method acting, some excellent script, and most importantly a real killer story that makes sense and is totally new and creative like never before. It is time to create the ultimate Bond movie that leaves all of it fans moved and leaving with a sense of fufillment. No more of the let down bullshit or trying to justify certain aspects. It needs to be all or nothing.

[@neonatalpenguin]

Here's an idea: Make the post-Craig Bond films period pieces, set in the era that the Fleming novels were written. That way, they don't feel obligated to keep deconstructing the character for modern audiences. They can make Bond a contradictory Don Draper type.

[@FirstNameLastName-kt3zn]

But the people who make these films have nothing but contempt for the past.

[@neonatalpenguin]

@@FirstNameLastName-kt3zn True.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

@@FirstNameLastName-kt3zn I don't think Barbara Brocolli has contempt for the past, just the people she has hired do. She can hire people that like that time period. Tarantino wanted to make a Bond movie in the 50s during the heights of the cold war.

[@mala6238]

@@johnnyskinwalker4095 and why did she hire those people then?

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

@@mala6238 probably to update it for a modern audience. they were getting a ton of heat cause of the whole MeToo thing and there were talks of Bond being toxic. I keep seeing reaction videos of people getting triggered that Bond of the past was so sexual and a rapist. lol They did it to cover their butts. But then they realised they went into far into the woke stuff and made tons of reshoots. I feel like the next Bond is gonna be handled differently.

[@DoctorTil]

I was fine with the shared continuity when it was just a couple of films within the run, but once it became serialized, it all became too convoluted. If had just been Casino Royale and QoS, it would have worked better. Especially if QoS had been any good.

[@mattmark94]

I stopped watching Bond movies after QoS. It was a complete mess.

[@Tim_TerninatorSeed]

I thought those 2 films were superior to the following 3, which felt cluttered and a real mish mash of tones.

[@davyboy9397]

@Search ‘TerminatorSeed I was just about to say... I remember scenes from Casino Royal and QOS ... Everything else doesn't even really need to exist ... It's all forgettable honestly. Skyfall is vastly overrated and Spectre felt like an entirely different type of Bond film from the other movies. Casino Royal is amazing... I miss the pre me too days .....

[@Slightly_Livid_Gaming]

​@CEO of Secularism Whenever someone says they liked Skyfall, I always want to ask why. I thought it was a boring, lifeless waste of time.

[@Bigbodybigbeefybody]

@CEO of Secularism Movie was popular therefore it was good. Yea. Great reasoning. Idiot.

[@wheeliebin18]

What really grates on me the most... they would have lost NOTHING to give Bond a happy ending with Madeleine. Lost absolutely nothing! He could gracefully have gone off into the sunset, one final mission completed, at the peak of his game, with the woman he'd finally found and the child he didn't know how much he wanted to begin with... what would have been the fucking problem to give us that?!

[@CIA.2024-u9b]

It gave their hatred too much satisfaction to blast him with rockets. That's how hateful they are.

[@crystalquasar6841]

But SuBveRTed ExpECtAtiOnS is the rage these days.

[@hrdley911]

They had to kill the Patriarchy!!!

[@m.v.h.207]

This, so much.

[@purplytony7375]

It's the age-old writing trope "the killer cant have the happy ending" which I dont hate. This was a veritable "last job" type story and him dying was a natural progression. We like bond bc we've been seeing it all through his eyes so it sucks for us to see him almost get everything he wanted and then have it all ripped away.

[@Schenkmytro]

First comment here ever and first time seeiing you 'irl'. Thanks for the videos, keep it real and cheers. Pze from Belgium.

[@KainedbutAble123]

Like all things with the woke Waller-Bridge types, these films were just about power. They couldn’t believe their luck having control of such a traditionalist, non-woke, patriotic icon. They obviously haven’t known what to do with Bond and have spent numerous films trying to fit a square peg in a round whole, turning him into a domesticated family man etc. In the end they had to kill him, because they hate him. Despite no film doing it before, in their arrogance they were the ones that had to exert their power over him in this way. So long Bond.

[@chrispekel5709]

I feel that it's more that they've run out of ideas so killed him to make it a talking point and give it some weight. They can just reboot the character like they do Batman, but I'm worried how they'll write his character unless the pendulum swings back

[@KainedbutAble123]

@@chrispekel5709 for the first time in 60 years? Nah, other writers ran out of ideas too but didn’t kill him. Ultimately, men like Bond and what they stand for have to die in modern media, metaphorically and quite literally.

[@bighands69]

@@chrispekel5709 How do they reboot a dead character? Does the reboot mean they are going to replace the whole cast. I for one moment do not believe they are going to get rid of the new 007 or the new Bond family. They are clearly setting up Jane Bond Jr.

[@KainedbutAble123]

@@bighands69 Right, Ralph Fiennes as M with Henry Cavill as Bond would have been a great continuation. Now the baby is out with the bathwater and everyone has to go.

[@KainedbutAble123]

@TheQuarterPounder well after a few films neither did Connery but I don’t remember them blowing him up.

[@escaperoomleander1948]

Also in this film: the Aston Martin company goes bankrupt, martinis are now made with Red Bull, suits are off the rack, and Bran ends up on the Iron Throne.

[@Mikepo587]

Great synapses of last few years of f ups in movies and home viewing

[@le13579]

Brilliant.

[@1701EarlGrey]

So, Fleabag literally killed Bond and Indi is next on her hit list... For me it's: No Money To Lose!

[@sithsaiyan4529]

Why are we calling L3-37 fleabag? Did I miss something?

[@rubix4195]

@CEO of Secularism I didn't know that Danny Boyle left for that reason! Mind you, he seems a pretty stand up guy. Danny Boyle and Colin Trevorrow walking away because the film's "creative" decisions makes me have hope that there are people who know there's a standard somewhere.

[@rubix4195]

@@sithsaiyan4529 Fleabag - a very unremarkable series in my view - was written by Phoebe Waller-Bridge and she was the voice of that robot in Solo which Lando got down with : L3-37

[@cgh7337]

Indiana Jones died in the 4th movie. Why Spielberg & Co are dragging Harrison Ford's wrinkly ass for another installment, I'm sure I don't know.

[@roger_welco]

@@cgh7337 Spielberg and co are not, it's Kennedy's last throw of the dice.

[@ROSCO608]

Paloma: "My job ends here" Bond: "Ok bye" Me: WTFFFFFF?!?!?!

[@alexkrycek21]

Yeah agree. She was brilliant.

[@nickman002]

He needed a nap

[@billysinge8977]

She was way hotter than the blonde one, much more fun as well. Thought she’d be the Bond girl of the film but oh no, we couldn’t have that. Wish we could’ve seen more of her.

[@Angelo_Botta]

Exactly… WTF ?!?! this is not a Bond movie

[@mattdempseyfilm1805]

Pretty sure the vial that infected Bond was coded to his family - so he could have lived but the people he most wanted to be with, he would be poison to them.

[@309freddie]

It's almost like they're killing off inspirational characters before the great reset.🤔

[@nhmooytis7058]

Gee a plot about a lethal virus. Where did they get such a crazy idea!

[@GonzoInside]

@@nhmooytis7058 NANOMACHINES, SON.

[@nhmooytis7058]

@@GonzoInside is that like “Plastics” in The Graduate?

[@AurumEtAes]

@@nhmooytis7058even though it’s not a virus in the traditional sense, it’s still another global depopulation plot.

[@nhmooytis7058]

@@AurumEtAes in any cases we’re actually being depopped.

[@amojak]

They were testing the water for a female bond, leaving it open ended at the finale

[@timtrozzo3047]

Barbara Broccoli has said that Bond will always be a male.

[@barbaramiller17]

@@timtrozzo3047 yes, but they lie. Regularly.

[@Supermans-Drunk]

@@timtrozzo3047 But there's the rub, male could mean Trans Male perhaps?

[@halley4032]

Still don't understand the dialogue regarding 'changing Bond's gender' etc !! James Bond is the name of the man, this is well established in the franchise, and even in the Daniel Craig run, such as Skyfall, and other references to his murdered wife, Tracy. I think people get confused with 007 and James Bond. The studio/writers can do what they like with the 007 characters, because this a 'codename' or designation of the agent, and older Bond films have shown the odd female 00 agent in the big briefing room. But as for changing the actual character of James Bond to something else, it's ridiculous .... and yet .... what am I saying, the useless, talented hacks can do anything they want .... Gits !! 😜😜

[@katarn848]

@CornPop 2.0 There is a rumour there was too much money spend on this movie, because of XXX and YYY . Not seen or heard any rumour what was loss in editing-room, yet. Give it a week or 2. It will leak or not. If not it's will be even more interesting that it didn't happen. Also the rumour is this movie will not make its money back or nice profit.

[@KelliRocks]

Finally, a leather jacket and a beer!

[@davidbrennan660]

Cool jacket.

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

The Drinker looks like an East Londoner.🤘🤘 All he has to say is that he rides a Triumph motorbike to the pub.😉😉

[@purefoldnz3070]

looks like pleather. Someone chip in and get him a proper leather jacket.

[@BlackKnight66600]

Side note: he doesn’t get infected with just any virus, he gets infected with a variant that’ll kill that woman and her daughter. You can see Malek’s character steals her hair in one of the earlier scenes.

[@whitejar79]

Remi had a vial that he carried on him that was programmed to kill Madeline and his daughter. He broke it and infected Bond in their last fight, so no he wasnt in danger of killing anyone but them. But anything he does touch is a vector that would kill them if they came in contact with it. But yeah he could have isolated himself until they came up with a cure. You'd think with a computer virus Q would be able to come up with a solution eventually 🤦‍♂️

[@rayunited2010foryou]

Yeah I believe killing himself just because he wouldn't be able to touch them is too weak and stupid of him. I mean, come on!

[@Buttery-123]

Bond got shot several times by Remi and was shown struggling to move after. He had to reopen the silo doors then crawled up a shaft to give his final goodbye to Madeline since he was infected with nanos that would kill both Madeline n his daughter and he was gravely injured which no way was he making it off the island in time. Imo, this was a good and necessary send off to Daniel Craig's Bond.

[@WarriorPoet01]

Luke. Han. Indiana (if rumors hold true). Bond. It’s cultural demoralization.

[@sithsaiyan4529]

And sadly, those are just the characters that they murdered, characters that they ruined is probably 4 times as long as that list.

[@luxurybuzz3681]

Is this why Spielberg left Indy 5?

[@c.tes9009]

100% this is an act of war.

[@Noah-tp9xl]

The story arc felt much like Tony Stark in endgame. They are both playboys turned family men and sacrifice themselves for the world. The humor also felt like something out of a marvel movie.

[@BAADSessions]

Just like Harrison Ford who wanted to be killed off in Star Wars 7 (actually, he wanted to be killed off in 5)

[@Ergeniz]

@@BAADSessions Why does Harrison hate SW so much?

[@BAADSessions]

@@Ergeniz not sure. I know Alec Guiness didn’t take it seriously either

[@YankeeBlues21]

Definitely similar (I just saw NTTD and felt the writers must’ve seen Endgame and thought “let’s do Tony’s story, but darker”), but I think Tony’s death feels more optimistic and Bond’s was needlessly cruel to the character. At least Tony gets to have 4-5 precious years with Pepper & their daughter, while Bond misses those same 4-5 years. Tony sacrifices himself to defeat the greatest evil in the galaxy and dies surrounded by his friends and family (and has a funeral with all in attendance). Bond is poisoned because the villain is petty over losing (and doesn’t sacrifice himself in a no-win situation like Tony) and then dies alone, distanced from his loved ones, and his body is immolated, leaving his friends and family to mourn without any kind of service. For me, I didn’t feel bad about Tony dying when I walked out of the theater in 2019. It felt earned and doesn’t sour my enjoyment of his character when I rewatch the MCU. It’s still fresh, but I feel differently about Craig’s Bond. It feels like Casino Royal & Skyfall (and the other 2) will suffer because I’ll occasionally be reminded that this guy’s life ends alone, having just found his place in the world but unable to ever settle in it, with British missiles about to end the life of a man who spent his life defending his country. It just...sucks. I know they were going for tragedy, but read the room guys. The world’s dark enough. We needed this Bond riding off into the sunset with his wife and kid, finally shedding the “blunt instrument” label and making it out of the spy game alive, then rebooting with the next actor.

[@BatkoNashBandera774]

You know it's serious when the Drinker has to take two heavy swigs before he can even begin to speak...

[@SumDumGy]

I’d want to know if you actually see him die or did we get a Last Crusade thing where Indy goes off the cliff in a tank but doesn’t actually fall off and die. We know “James Bond will return...” Assuming he did actually die, this just give them the opportunity to end Craig’s five film arc, reset, an either start again or go back to that episodic story telling we had before him. I’d gather either way, they killed him to do a modern Bond reset. Regardless, they aren’t getting my View to a Kill. This film will never exist to me, and perhaps nothing that comes after ever will either.

[@KrillLiberator]

I admire those who can stand up and proclaim with pride that they are not interested in the thing which they have come to very specifically commentate on.

[@matthewbalsinger3238]

I mean that's honestly a pathetic position to have. You either like the franchise, or you don't. That doesn't mean you have to like everything they do in every movie...but good lord Bond films are a time capsule of their times, they aren't just movies. I love watching Casino Royale because it makes me think of when I was in High School, and makes me reflect on how I viewed the world then. Watching GoldenEye reminds me of my childhood growing up in the 90s...Quantum and Skyfall reminds me of college. I freaking HATE Die Another Day, but when I did rewatch it I was reminded of the largess decline of movies in the '00s. I mean your life sounds pretty sad if you're going to proclaim to not to see a movie just because of bullshit you've heard the grifter merchants on youtube spread for two years. Just sad bro. Live a little.

[@SumDumGy]

@@KrillLiberator No pride here. I had a perspective and I chose to share it. Not really sorry if that bothers you.

[@SumDumGy]

@@matthewbalsinger3238 I’m not going to see the movie because of the woke BS that has come out of the mouths of the cast and crew over the last two years, not because of what people on KZbin have said. There’s nothing sad about that. I choose to vote with my wallet and my time, and people running their mouths should come with consequences. My ticket price will be one of them. Judge me for it all you like but I’ll still respect the history of this franchise.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Much of that seems par for the course for the publicity circus. Barely has anything to do with the finished film usually (remember 'pansexual Lando Calrissian'? Amounted to nothing at all, but one slightly off color joke about L3) They just like to drum up publicity - and usually, controversy too.

[@markjamieson2023]

It boggles my mind how people can't separate each bond as separate entities! Just because Craig's bond died doesn't mean the bond franchise is dead too, someone else will come along and put there own spin on it like everyone before. Also I loved this film and Craig's run and I'm a big fan Roger Moore's run as well! There's nothing wrong with a bit of variety, bond doesn't have to be the same formula every time.

[@The1uptriforce]

It's one thing to put your own spin on a character it's another to take that character's life put another character in its place and then tell you it's the same thing none of the other movies did that the actors were inconsequential because we knew at the end of the day it was one character we were watching now that's over James Bond is legitimately dead therefore the franchise is legitimately dead

[@negativezero3107]

Roger has always been my favorite Bond and I have seen all of em portray him in the time of doing so, to me Connery was a bit too starched, Craig's versions lacked a lot of the dry comedy but NTTD had some, loved the throw back to HMSS in NTTD, heartbreaking ending and well done. I think Craig cements himself in the top 3 Bonds with Moore and Connery after this run.

[@pr-tj5by]

Mark Jamieson, I loved Moore as i did Brosnan and Connery but I thought Craig was dreadful

[@pr-tj5by]

@@negativezero3107 Brosnan Moore Connery in that order for me, the rest you can throw away IMO

[@RISE-327]

Thankyou for saving me money, which is odd for a Scotsman to do ! I will now sleep peacefully at your cost.

[@doctordetroit1217]

Wait for the Zac Snyder version a few years from now, it'll be worth the wait!

[@sithsaiyan4529]

Put the scissors down man.

[@karahughes7074]

And me. I may watch it if it's on tv and there's nothing else on. And Barbara Broccoli says that there will be another Bond after this one, but how? They've just killed him - and although he's played by different actors we know that it's the same person. Unless of course you just handwave the Craig years as a 'mistake'.

[@Matthew10950]

I was in a Scottish regiment but am not myself a scot. I noticed a Scotsman will pinch a penny until the pips squeak...but will drop 50 quid at a pub on his mates without blinking. Good guys.

[@mala6238]

It indeed is the Last Jedi of the Bond franchise. Bond is dead and his daughter will take over.

[@kkrsnn5632]

So the daughter is like Rey, makes sense 😂😂😂😂

[@elfascisto6549]

@@kkrsnn5632 so bond is palpatine's son ?

[@kkrsnn5632]

@@elfascisto6549 you might be right you know 🤔

[@rubix4195]

I don't think legendary spy skills are hereditary XD But, crucially, I am sure the Critical Drinker can back me up on this, it's not actually possible to drink the same Vodka Martini (shaken not stirred) from Fleming's James Bond days because Kina Lillet is no longer available so I am guessing the daughter will be drinking a Bacardi Breezer?

[@mala6238]

@@rubix4195 😂😂😂 you know that son/daughter of xy magically has the same skills as xy is Hollywood logic 101. And I don't think she will drink Wodka Martini, nor Barcardi. She will drink Vodka mixed with soy.

[@peterfranks6243]

No " in loving memory of Roger Moore and Sean Connery " at start of the movie or end credits.... nothing. Cubby Broccoli got one at end of Tomorrow Never Dies

[@GonzoInside]

Wow, really shocked they didn't add that to end credits. Really disrespectful of them. Barbara is a cold-blooded bitch, I guess.

[@GeordieSwordsman]

Lets face it, a dedication on this would basically be spitting on them.

[@peterfranks6243]

@@GeordieSwordsman it's all about Craig I reckon

[@DarthVader-1701]

That's actually a good thing because we don't want Sean Connery or Roger Moore being connected to this pile of shit.

[@rubix4195]

@@DarthVader-1701 Ditto - both Sean Connery and Roger Moore would have not want this trashfire linked to their name when the filmography on Bond is what people want.

[@davelee1935]

Timothy Dalton was the best Bond ! Shame he only did 2 films !!! Had the perfect look

[@wheeliebin18]

I can only imagine how good Dalton in Goldeneye would have been!

[@AaronBr00mfie7d]

The Living Daylights had the best action set pieces. Almost a perfect Cold War movie. License to Kill could have been any 80s cop movie. Terrible/

[@paulnodalo9130]

Most of the Daniel Craig bond movies have been made for around $250million and make around $1000Million or $1Billion at the box office(add dvd,blu ray,merchandise,streaming etc etc on top) So the broccoli family and MGM and the other production companies are VERY HAPPY along with the Cinema chains like VUE,ODEON,Cineworld etc.

[@garym6315]

I think they've always treated the Craig run of films as a kind of reimagining of Bond since we see him go from his beginnings through to his death. Much like the Dark Knight trilogy it feels like it is an overview of Bond's origins, typical adventures, then death. So killing him off won't affect anything in the larger scale as they'll just reboot it again with the next film. The problem here though is twofold - one is that killing off Bond is unprecedented in the films and suddenly he's not the great living legend that will always win. Second, is that all the previous films were kinda loosely in the same timeline (just with new lead actors) and you always felt that you could watch them in any order and it would still make sense as self contained adventures...so adding this story arc element just confuses things and killing him off even more so. Younger fans will wonder how he is able to come back in the next one now that they're used to ongoing story arcs in the films, and it will make each actor's era in the lead role more inaccessible if they have to be watched in order. I also have a bad feeling that they'll use this death as an opportunity to get "stunning and brave" with the casting of the next Bond. Hiring a black Bond would have been crazy in the old days when the films all felt connected, but now that they've drown a line under this and said "this is the end," it gives them more freedom to make radical changes in the next one. Overall this is a very bad sign of the times, and sets the precedent that they're bo longer continuing on a legendary series, but killing it and starting something completely new.

[@m0z4rt427]

i dont mind a black bond as long as its a good actor like Idris. I disaprove this new "forced" policy of shoving black/gay characters into movies (even Q is gay now), but Idris is good enough to make the fans give it a shot imo (should he be chosen). Its not about the actor, but the direction the movie takes, and how "political" it goes (which is pretty ironic, since Bond movies were always very political, anti-soviets/communits mostly) Continuing james bond will just take time. In some years, people will eventually forget bond died, and will easily accept anyone else that comes after. But you might be right, the Me too generation might get a rainbow flavour jane bond in a close future

[@kpeguyebbers850]

@@m0z4rt427 While I agree, I personally think they should have hired Idris instead of Craig to begin with, unfortunately now he's a tad too old to don the tux now

[@hrdley911]

@@m0z4rt427 Perhaps a trans-gendered female, who could sleep with his/herself for information...?

[@pr-tj5by]

@@kpeguyebbers850 Agreed, Idris should have had the role instead of Craig but he's too old now, Henry Cavill for me, Craig never was Bond, Connery Moore and Brosnan were the only true Classic Bonds, the rest were just Bond of the books, it was womanizing Classic Bond that became Iconic, not a Generic action character, Bond died when Brosnan handed in his Walther PPK & LTK

[@pr-tj5by]

@@hrdley911 Wouldn't surprise me nowadays

[@TheSektorz]

I just noticed the based drinker has quite the console collection. Is there a Genesis somewhere in there? Anyway I won’t be watching the movie but thanks for letting us know what we’re missing (aint much)

[@theradgegadgie6352]

There will definitely not be a Genesis. He may have a Mega Drive, though.

[@Bow-to-the-absurd]

Its called a megadrive !

[@Bow-to-the-absurd]

Wish i still had gunstar hero's.

[@blackpeter70]

The burning question - has he got Ye Olde Dreamcast?

[@chrispekel5709]

Now we know why he knew what FOXDIE is

[@tonig.1546]

Will be damn difficult to replace Naomi on screen for the Chinese. And maybe this is just me being an absolute overpositive moron, but after the credits they said "James Bond will return."

[@incognitomcde1360]

The villain uses a virus to try and wipe out the world. I don’t think this one is heading to China and if it is, that’s some balls.

[@bjrnhalfhand2258]

Yeah but it'll be a different Bond and surely a different continuity?

[@exol511]

Not really a problem, considering her screen time in the movie is like 5min out of a 3h movie lol

[@strikerbowls791]

Why would they replace her...

[@thomasmrazek2186]

@@strikerbowls791 because China doesnt like black people

[@mjm0787]

They did have the ‘send in 007’ scene: when Bond returns to MI6 from Cuba as a ‘visitor’ and confronts M about Heracles, just to humiliate Bond further, M tells him to get out of his office and - while he’s still standing there - tells black Moneypenny to send in black female 007.

[@davidkiefer6553]

Not sure if it was added post theatrical release, but the very last few frames of the streaming version had “James Bond will Return” So that will be interesting how they walk that back….

[@SB992REBORN]

Nope thats in the movie. Was there when I saw it in theaters. You probably just walked out mad and didn't watch or pay attention to the ending credits.

[@doublep1980]

Not Time to Die. No Interest to Watch, would be a better title. I mean seriously, they pretty much got rid of everything that makes Bond being Bond, with the Craig-era movies and then finally they killed him off, only to just reboot the whole thing in a couple of years. The Craig Bond isn't even Bond, he's just a Wish version of Jason Bourne/Jack Bauer, but with added mommy issues and much more miserable.

[@davfree9732]

Aye. Casino Royale and Skyfall were great movies but the rest never felt like Bond. I know they said they wanted to get closer to the character but Bond's hard drinking in tropical resorts is a mile away from Sean Connery's smoozing with the rich and famous across a baccarat table.

[@doublep1980]

@@davfree9732 Casino Royal & Skyfall were crap. The story of CR is so dumb, specially if you consider that they wanted a ''realistic'' Bond. Because an intelligence agency giving 15 million$ to one of their operatives, to beat a money laundrer for terrorists in a poker game, so that they can make a deal with said money laundrer to become their informant and rat out his clients, is totally ''realistic''! Do you know how they would handle this IRL? They would send a SAS Team, kidnap the guy and torture him until he gives up all his clients.Much more effective & cheap. Oh and Bond doesn't even get to take revenge on the guy who busted his balls in that movie! And Skyfall, don't even get me started.... So you have this god-tier, uber-computer hacker, who can literally bring down the MI6 with a couple of clicks, but instead he comes up with this convoluted plan that would never work IRL, only to take revenge on M, for following standard spy protocol!! Remember, in Mission Impossible they always say:""if you get caught, we will deny everything''. Well, that's standard procedure for spies. He got caught, the MI6 followed protocol and he blames his ''mommy'' for this. And even if you wanna kill her, just put a sniper on the job or use a bomb or whatever and be done with it. F*ck off Craig-era Bond!

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

Exactly. Bond was already dead when they made Casino Royale, which is a good movie, but not a Bond movie. People don't seem to realize that 007 suppose to be the ultimate men's alter-ego, not a layered character with flaws and insecurities. *Cue Sean Connery slapping a hot blonde in the ass.

[@filmneek]

You evidently have not seen the film then. People are bitching that bond doesn’t fuck any random women in the film and has an emotional attachment to some certain characters…So what? Everything else bond does in the film is the best of his character, and pulls off some of the most badass kills in the whole series. Stop being obsessed with the idea that bond has been turned woke and see the film for yourself. You’ll be surprised as to how much this specific take on the character actually works. Having said that, I do hope they go back to basics with the next series.

[@matsimurf_5900]

@@filmneek Thanks chief but everyone knows what happens, you're just ignoring how he gets upstaged in his own movie and are coping hard. Wokeness is not our obsession, we are just observing and criticising it.

[@Bow-to-the-absurd]

Did they recut the movie after the initial trailer? I think they did. Bigly.

[@Dan.50]

Pretty sure they did.

[@Bow-to-the-absurd]

Iconic , 60 year old series sacrificed for blue hair twitter likes? Oh my.

[@mashrurlam4814]

No hair"

[@sithsaiyan4529]

68 years old. Sad days.

[@elfascisto6549]

@@mashrurlam4814 *half-haired

[@Ray_2112]

what?!

[@TemplarWarden]

Except... That's not what happened the way Drinker explained it.

[@kvasirsblood1107]

I think the symbolism behind killing Bond is very potent and says a lot about what to expect in the future. There is a note at the very end of the credits that says James Bond Will Return, so the theory that James Bond is a code name is very plausible.

[@magsteel9891]

The notion that "James bond" is a code name contradicts events in lots of prior movies. Makes no sense.

[@wheeliebin18]

Exactly, so every 006 is given the name Alec Trevelyan?!

[@ThatSockmonkey]

I don't get why people are so hung up on actors and consistency. They're movies. It doesn't matter. Use your suspension of disbelief and enjoy the show ffs.

[@cobain2261]

@@ThatSockmonkey suspension of disbelief can only go so far. This is you: "consume product and get excited for next product."

[@ThatSockmonkey]

@@cobain2261 whatever you say, mate. I don't care if they never make another bond movie again. I'm just not that invested in fiction.

[@hrdley911]

@@ThatSockmonkey Well thanks for coming to a movie review site to tell us you're not into movies...

[@aloan-freefreeloner]

If bond's love was the daughter of spectre, and the virus kills the target and their family, why was she okay after infecting herself. It also seemed like the little girl was getting symptoms but nothing happened (when talking about mosquito bites).

[@RuddsReels]

That's true! That plot development dies out.

[@mbazoka]

@@RuddsReels I think the whole "daughter of Spectre" is talking about the circumstances of her childhood and what drove her to become important to Bond/Spectre. It was a very loose metaphor to instill paranoia in Bond. Not very well developed at all.

[@yetipotato8567]

I am thinking her father died earlier so was not included to the hit list of the nanovirus

[@chadbuchanan7044]

@@yetipotato8567 Her father was "Mr. White", who Bond killed in either Skyfall or SPECTRE. He was the man behind Vesper's death in Casino Royale.

[@yetipotato8567]

@@chadbuchanan7044 ah nice, but it was some time ago, so they wouldnt have included mr white in nanuvirus

[@Pantheragem]

I'm glad to hear the spoilers. I decided long ago that if they kill off Bond, I'll just skip this one. I'm a passionate Indiana Jones fan, and I'll be spoiling the 'does he die or not' for myself, for that movie as well. If they do kill Indy off, I'll just never see it.

[@strikerbowls791]

It’s unclear if he dies tbh

[@theJ3ZA]

@@strikerbowls791 I hope he survived, but he was board line nuked from orbit at the end. But yeah, have him sneak out and get a cure

[@metalpick2025]

Damn straight.

[@leonardyox8164]

He does and he doesnt...our old indy dies, but young indy is also there and may or may not die

[@ronniejdio9411]

I've got some bad news for a ya. Indy is already dead

[@gordondavis6168]

Goldfinger, do you expect me to talk? (Woke 2021) No Mr Bond, I expect you to cry.

[@vonbrewskie9361]

On a certain level, I'm glad that they didn't give it away in the trailers. I miss the days of movies like The 5th Element where I went into that movie and had no idea Bruce Willis was even in it until he showed up. That kind of unfolding mystery is so novel now.

[@turorudi346]

To be fair, at the end of the credits there's the usual "James Bond will return" but I don't know if I want to see what crazy rebooted version of him they'll come up with. I'm glad some of the rumors weren't true though.

[@grahamjackmacpherson6501]

It's pretty obvious how their going to continue with more Bond movies isn't it? They'll just hit the reset button again and start over with a new actor. It's not rocket science. The fact Bond died in this movie makes no difference. It'll be a new bond in a new movie in a new story.

[@gallendugall8913]

I can't imagine going to this movie for any reason other than to make content about it. I've seen every Bond movie except this one and the last one because I can tell when the people in charge don't have a plan. For all the love Skyfall got, and deservedly so, it had all the hallmarks of people doing things without a plan - it just got lucky.

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

They should've changed the title from, "No Time To Die" to "Time To Die". Commander Bond has served us well.

[@Samaritan38]

"Time to Die, Mr. Bond" if they have the b....Um, flaps!

[@amojak]

they just missed out the comma. No, time to die.

[@NephilBlade]

"No Interest To See" would be good as well.

[@sweetmcnasty]

No Time to Watch (This Garbage)

[@renekauts8323]

Sean Connery: The first(and the best?) James Bond. The only actor who came back(twice!): 1971, 1983(unofficial Bond) *** George Lazenby: the only actor who played once. The only James Bond who got married. *** Roger Moore: The actor who played the most times: in 7 films! The only James Bond in space. *** Timothy Dalton: MY PERSONAL FAVORITE!!! ESPECIALLY "TLD"(1987)!!! The only real Cold War story Bond. The only James Bond in the Soviet-Afgan War. *** Pierce Brosnan: The only actor to have played James Bond in two different millennia. *** Daniel Craig: The shortest actor(1.78) who played James Bond. The actor who ruled for the longest time: 15 years!

[@josefb.6633]

Notable spoilers for me: Bond cries, Bond cries again, and one more time… bond kneels and begs… bond makes breakfast, bond has a kid, bond wears a teddy bear behind his suspenders when he dies for no reason, bond has no balls… whole plot is basically moving because of his mistakes: on Cuba he loses the scientist, he kills blofeld, he is followed to Norway, he lets them take Madeline, he is not able to save the child (it saves itself - WTF was that?) and… whatever, I could go on… Brutal…

[@nedlehs56]

Well it’s worth mentioning he “kneels and begs” as a ploy for him to pull out his gun so he can take out Safin’s henchmen.

[@josefb.6633]

@@nedlehs56 In a very indignifine way… it is common plot device but this was done to make him a bitch with this cover up… plus the villan escapes with the child, he gets bad looks for incopetence from the mother and baby rescues itself :D… common man…

[@pr-tj5by]

@@josefb.6633 That's cos Craig never was Bond, Connery Moore and Brosnan were the only true Classic Bonds, the rest were just Bond of the books, it was womanizing Classic Bond that became Iconic, not a Generic action character, Bond died when Brosnan handed in his Walther PPK & LTK

[@thel1355]

This movie took no risks. It did exactly what was needed for the creators to earn approval from their peers, and that means actively avoiding pleasing traditional Bond fans as much as possible while not completely tanking the box office. They're quite happy to sacrifice some profits for peer applause, but there are limits to what the moneymen will tolerate. They've wanted to kill Bond for years, because it's a symbolic snub to people they despise.

[@Dr.Gainzzz]

Well said.

[@zillion914]

I can’t stand Craig and the end was pretty much predictable. He is a such a POS that you know he wanted to be the last Bond. His ego with his pouting is unbearable, what a garbage of a human being. Now let’s just wait because the next Bond will automatically be better than him, anyone is.

[@nicknevco215]

no profits mean no investors unless they give them a guarantee they will not lose any money on the investment

[@leonkuwata4510]

If you think killing James Bond isn't a risk, you're batshit insane.

[@thel1355]

@@leonkuwata4510 If they hadn't killed Bond, then they would have been faced with half of twitter and a dozen "think"pieces saying they should have done so. With it being Craig's last movie, and the hostility to what Bond represents that now permeates elite fashion, it was the obvious, perhaps even necessary, move.

[@Bow-to-the-absurd]

Up there with star wars, terminator, star trek, dr who , etc the current era of 'how not to treat your characters '

[@doctordetroit1217]

You haven't spoiled anything the filmmakers managed that by theirselves!

[@princessmarlena1359]

You beat me to it!

[@erikred8217]

Oky Oky. I get this Channel NuoW!. I love the rest of your work in general but this one i usually miss. but I get it now. looking forward to it.!. please keep up the work!

[@yuh-fv7ds]

You know, Nolan has often publicly flirted with wanting to do a Bond film. He’s previously said he has many ideas about unique things he’d do with the character. But he’d need a clean slate and a few movies’ worth to do a proper “Nolan” interpretation. And with Craig’s Bond being dead, the future of the franchise is undoubtedly a full, clean reboot. I wonder if Nolan and Bond could come together at just the right time. Side note: Is Michael Caine too old to play M?

[@gosh402]

Can't have a Nolan movie without My Cocaine

[@DHynes5]

Michael Caine already played an M-like character in Kingsman

[@pr-tj5by]

@@DHynes5 The present M is good imo, It was Craig's Bond that was the let down after Casino Royale

[@DogWick]

Micheal Caine would be an amazing M

[@vjbd2757]

@@DHynes5 Kingsman is a better Bond Film than the last two Bond Films.

[@KelliRocks]

They killed a multigenerational character, just to cast a woman/POC/LGBTQIA+ person in the role moving forward. They changed the character so much, it doesn't seem like Bond.

[@onepunchbud1472]

It's totally fine to make female lead action films..but they need to stop taking existing movies and replace the males. That's what is ridiculous. But they are too lazy and / or dumb to come up with something new. It's incredible that they don't even leave James Bond alone with this shit. I am so sick of it...

[@thebatman4279]

They know its a quick and easy way to make money to leech off a popular male-led franchise. They COULD make a new female spy but that requires too much imagination and hard work. It's really pathetic.

[@timtrozzo3047]

As long as Barbara Broccoli is in charge,Bond will always be male,but after she steps down/dies anything could happen.

[@ryckarduhryckarduh180]

I cant think of anything less feminist than watching a franchise about a guy growing and becoming a powerhouse and then changing the guy for a girl, thats literally riding on the shoulders of men instead of coming up with a decent original female oriented franchise. Thats the equivalent of waiting for men to do the hard work and then showing up in the last minute to say she did it

[@valentinegonsalves7322]

The thing about James Bond is, the character transcends media. Ian Fleming wrote them as books. They were never meant to be multi-generational. And hence, bith james Bond and the 007 number are one man and one man only. Everyone else gets a different number. No "James Bond" isn't a codename that anyone can "take on" or "be ordained/given". Fleming wanted a quintessentially British character who's exploits would be regarded as we regard superheroes from comics and movies. I HATE this idea of just usurping the name of a character. It should have some meaning. Jack Reacher gives several fake names at motels, but they're all Yankees baseball players. It tells you Reacher likes a particular era/generation of Yankees baseball. Also, I don't think anyone is aspiring to be James Bond. No man can. There are real spies and there are real "womanizers" (because no woman has ever shagged more than one man ever and wants sex more than men ever). The point is, people like John Cleese and Roger Moore have said that James Bond is ridiculous. The idea that men "look up" to that character and so its important to "update" the character's behaviour is insane. Just MAKE your OWN character and universe and DON'T call it James Bond. Why is it so hard for a swath of people to understand? Actually, we know why. Because James Bond's name is a brand that's worth money every time someone says it. But even so...it won't be worth anything if money is the only thing. At this point, as much as I love Bond, I'd be happier if we never saw another James Bond movie. Fuck it. Just let it rest. I'd rather he be left alone than messed up. And Spectre already messed the character up pretty bad.

[@tool4132]

If the Craig Bond was a retelling of Bond with Casino being his first mission as a 00, are they going to do retelling of Bond with every new casting? I'm so confused by this. They never should have messed with the continuity.

[@camerongunn7906]

Probably, don't expect anything new though. As creatively bankrupt as Hollywood is they couldn't imagine him doing anything else.

[@jamesg8175]

Yes of course they will. They'll just reboot it again. Need to give it decent size break tho

[@villekuismin277]

I've never really even regarded all the Bond-movies to be part of the same continuity with a couple of exceptions (OHMSS, DAF, TSWLM, FOEO). They're just going to reboot with a new actor and pretend like the Craig-era never happened. After all, at the end of the credits it still did say that "James Bond will return" like always.

[@michaelsegriff3362]

The hidden meaning is: toxic (infected) Bond is dead. Bond loses his identity, takes a back seat to women, Q is gay (not really a shocker), etc.

[@nhmooytis7058]

Desmond Llewellyn and John Cleese. Suuuure.

[@effsinthechat1766]

Q is gay because Ben Wishaw is gay. How boring and unnecessary.

[@michaelsegriff3362]

@@effsinthechat1766 Stunning. Brave. Who gives a sh** about where Q sticks it?

[@effsinthechat1766]

@@michaelsegriff3362 Exactly. Tokenism at it's finest

[@nhmooytis7058]

@@effsinthechat1766 he was a sad successor to Llewellyn and Cleese.

[@monkfan72]

To quote Alan Partridge, "Stop getting Bond wrong!"

[@cabe3231]

No one really realizes that they've purposely killed the franchise. It'll be a long time before we ever see James Bond again. RIP.

[@c.tes9009]

You’ve hit the nail on the head. This was an intentional assassination,

[@franciscodanconia4324]

Barbara Broccoli has said they won’t even start trying to pick a new Bond until 2022. I wouldn’t expect a new movie until at least 2025 if it even happens.

[@oldfatbastad6053]

15m 45s in and im turning off, ive heard all i need to know. another long running franchise dies on the alter of "the message".

[@unknownvagrant6851]

Altar, and you missed out on some very comfy conversations.

[@Beantbeantbeant]

The biggest "woke" part people are overlooking is when the prime minister was on the phone, M referred to the PM as "them"

[@aurex8937]

I somehow missed that, probably because I'm not a native speaker so my brain still thinks using different pronouns. Fuck me, that's really bad.

[@TheSixthDoctor]

I watched it dubbed, they opted for the male pronoun in German :D

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

whom was he speaking about

[@hodgknob3545]

My British father says they (the Brits) kinda keep the term Prime Minister a bit general neutral.

[@TemplarWarden]

Oh noooooo, not ambiguous terms! How terrifying, how political, how dare they have another throw away line in an entire movie.

[@EthanKnight97]

As a hardcore Bond fan No Time to Die has completely ruined the franchise going forward. Also another iconic male character destroyed literally.

[@CIA.2024-u9b]

@Gary Goldstein Yes, but why is noone stopping that?

[@SolarDragon007]

I was kind of done with the franchise after how embarrassingly bad Spectre was. This rebooted continuity was already on life-support after that movie imo.

[@superpasokon3022]

@@CIA.2024-u9b Exactly. You'd think that people who believe in "free market capitalism" and "freedom" will be completely supportive of a private company making movies that appeal to market demands.

[@CIA.2024-u9b]

@@superpasokon3022 Well, it does not make the impression that these films are being made in response to market demands but rather as an "education" instrument as the larger majority will not want this. And so, every time someone invests money in suboptimal ways, they are making an investment. Here, some is investing in propaganda. But who is that?

[@pr-tj5by]

@@SolarDragon007 The beginning of Spectre was the only time Craig actually behaved like a Classic James Bond, cool AF...Then he ruined it all by falling in love again

[@fitzroy_spark3879]

I appreciate your honest take on these things mate, like calling out for the trailer makers to be fired. Cheers big ears

[@thegrimcritic5494]

“And Rami Malek infects Bond with the virus, and now he’s basically able to kill anyone he comes into contact with…” … You know, in a way, that’s actually kind of a thematically appropriate fate for the Craig Bond to have. Think about it. Every single Craig Bond movie has dealt with the fact that most everyone Bond gets close to, dies. So it’s almost tragically appropriate that Bond’s final act is to prevent the literal death of those closest to him by allowing death to free him from this curse of his. I dunno. When the Drinker described HOW and WHY Craig’s Bond died, I immediately liked how it sounded. Seems… poetic, in a bittersweet way.

[@chadbuchanan7044]

To clarify, the virus he was infected with was tailored so that it would only kill his love interest, and his daughter.

[@the21stsergeant]

You're the first and I think only person who's done a big review of this film to make the FoxDie connection in this film.

[@chrispekel5709]

Pretty sure most movie reviewers don't have 10 consoles in their room

[@the21stsergeant]

@@chrispekel5709 and that's why they're shit.

[@dalrobert555]

They need to bring in a good looking fantasy bond, henry cavill will do. Pierce brosnan was a perfect bond, but the movies were ok, but the image was so good it did not matter. The whole point of bond is that we can escape for 90 min and pretend to be bond, but daniel craig bond has been so depressing. If you look at mission impossible this franchise is good. How many times have we watched ghost protocal, or rogue nation, manny times, and how many times have we watched a craig bond......once!

[@gaah23]

I agree, i remember Brosnans movies but I don't remember anything from the craig era. It's like any other big budget action movie out there. But without a soul. But that's my opinion. // Best regards

[@moseshorowitz4345]

I bet they're taking a page from Dr. Who, and looking to "regenerate" the character of 007 by assigning a new agent to the number. Once they establish this premise they can keep the franchise going indefinitely with story arcs based around specific agents, with the trap-door of killing off or retiring (and possibly bringing back) actors as desired.

[@gigglebob69]

He gets his number back.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Seeing as film 007 was never a commie-smashing machine like the books, fuck him.

[@nn-dj2nu]

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[@SilverSpoonRiche]

33:01 W.O.K.E. (We're Okay Killing Everything) Daaaayum! That is brilliant!

[@kirilangelov9752]

Very good point on the EMP, I also thought the same. It should have fried the nanobots. My take is that Heracles was originally a virus indeed, but now they reshot a few scenes to avoid talking about viruses in the current situation.

[@chrispekel5709]

EMP shielding is a thing, right?

[@kirilangelov9752]

@@chrispekel5709 on the nanoscale, I doubt that.

[@emceedoctorb3022]

@@chrispekel5709 Yes but the amount of shielding required would not be able to be fitted to something on such a small scale.

[@bighands69]

I think what they were getting at with the nanobots was that they were molecular in structure and not a strict electronic circuit.

[@dkimandi]

@@bighands69 is that confirmed in the movie or not, a quote for example when they said that

[@mattmark94]

I swear these modern writers have no originality. "How do we end this character's story?" "We kill him off of course!" Character arc over, time to die character! (unless you are a woman)

[@Bow-to-the-absurd]

Its all a symptom of current era oikophobia.

[@mattmark94]

@daz636 I don't know what that word means xD

[@mala6238]

@@mattmark94 basically some sort of self-hatered

[@solidbeard8324]

Yeah, killing the main lead like that as been done to death at this point that it would look weird when they will cast another Bond.

[@mattmark94]

@MaLa so postmodern and original :O /s

[@blastfromthepast8344]

From 1962 to 2002 I believe that Bond was supposed to be the same man. Absurd, yes, and impossible to believe, yes... but that's how it was. Somehow, in this wonderful world of cinematic spy fiction, the first five Bonds were the same man. They all looked similar enough to make this acceptable, if not plausible. Then along came Daniel Craig... Here it all changes. Daniel Craig's Bond was not related at all to the others. This is a total reboot of the franchise. We see Bond earn his 00 status and acquire the Aston Martin DB5... which (contrary to the other films) seems to be his own private personal car right from the word go, as opposed to a 'mission car' that was eventually retired and became his own, personal private car. He meets Blofeld for the first time as well and we have all this (nonsense) about them being brothers or whatever. It's a totally NEW Bond. They were rebooting the franchise; not because they needed to, but because they wanted to... it was the thing people were doing, so they did it too. The MISTAKE they made was keeping Judy Dench in as M. And yet, if we can accept that several different actors can play the same man, then we can also accept that the same actress can be playing a different M, who, outwardly, looks the same... but isn't. It's a tough ask, but we must accept it. The M of CR, QofS and Sf is NOT the same as the one in the previous four films. She looks the same. Weird, but there we are. And then we come to the Ending. This is the ONLY Bond era which has had a definite Beginning and End. Was this planned all along? No. The Beginning, yes... the Ending, no. What if Daniel Craig had quit after three or four movies and refused to come back? Would they then have cast another actor for the Ending? Maybe... but then would that not have diluted the impact somewhat? The whole point is that the audience feels connection with this Bond after five films. The Ending, which I am avoiding revealing, must have been thought up during the writing process of this film... and I'd even suggest that it was Craig's idea... possibly even his stipulation before agreeing to coming back. So we have a nice little five film saga, self contained, beginning, middle and end. But was this the plan right at the start...? Again, I don't believe so. So what next? I bet they don't even know yet. There are at least two possible ways it could go... maybe more. I favour going back to the main line of the franchise and continuing the story of THAT particular Bond, with no reference to the DC era at all. Wouldn't it be great if Bond met Blofeld again and remarked "Last time I saw you, you were sweeping a chimney!!" Well... I think it would be great anyway!

[@waffenwrapp62]

the reason why the messed up faces are prominent, is because bond is described in the novels as having a messed up face ... a long jagged scar under his left eye

[@TheSchaef47]

45:30 yes, James Bond is just a code name. And numerous future Bonds would visit the one guy's wife's grave to keep up appearances.