Criticism of Biden presidency | Saagar Enjeti and Lex Fridman

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[@miighankurt1930]

Lex do you think the talk about building an even bigger collider than the current hadron collider is worth looking at? As you already know if they discover something like the supersymmetric particles, that's going to potentially lead to new technology having a direct impact on everyone. Paired with AI and quantum computing we might be in for a wild ride worth talking about. There is also the economic and political aspect and the Ukraine war. Will people want to see the spending on such a project. All in all madness that might be worth making a podcast about.

[@lukemoloney3675]

😊

[@DJCloroxx]

For starters, it's clear he's not actually running anything. Even if you agree with a lot of what "he's doing"

[@pepperonish]

He can't on account of the dementia

[@TaylorMade1996]

Biden crime family has been selling out the country since the 70s. I personally believe its even darker than that

[@patrickpellegrino]

He listens to pelosi marching g orders

[@tomjoad1940]

​@patrickpellegrino yeah, and trump listens to his people that control him. You know these people are all the same, right?

[@nykka3]

And he doesn’t care that he doesn’t run anything. He just wanted the title and some of the power.

[@cocoruse]

From the AP: ''The first year in law school I decided I didn’t want to be in law school and ended up in the bottom two-thirds of my class and then decided I wanted to stay and went back to law school and in fact ended up in the top half of my class,’' he went on. But last week Biden released his law school records showing he had graduated 76th in a law school class of 85. The law school transcript also showed he made little progress in class standing through the three-year course, ranking 80 out of 100 in the first semester of the first year, and 79th out of 87 the second semester of his second year.”

[@Bubbachuck4910]

I dislike biden but C or A who cares? My grandfather had a 6th grade education yet fought in ww2 and became a successful business owner supporting his family for his entire life.

[@jeffg7478]

@@Bubbachuck4910the point was he lied.

[@Bubbachuck4910]

@jeffg7478 bro they all lie , ALL who really cares. To be a politician is to be a liar

[@sonicboomers122]

@@Bubbachuck4910 Did your Grandpa whine and moan about only having a 6th grade education or pretend he graduated from Yale. It shows a combination of insecurity, dishonesty, pride that is just not healthy.

[@sjs928]

BIDEN IS A LEGEND … in what’s left of his mind

[@BGTuyau]

"A 'C' student who thought he was an 'A' student." Poster boy for The Dunning-Kruger Effect ...

[@Uuusssaaas]

He was more of a D+ student, but the distinction is trivial.

[@AndogaSpock]

Can anyone make any criticism of anyone without it also applying directly to Trump 😂 ?

[@BGTuyau]

@AndogaSpock ?

[@sharkh20]

​@@AndogaSpockTrump is more the C student who doesn't give a shit because he doesn't think education is necessary for success.

[@tomjoad1940]

​@@AndogaSpockno. Lol

[@TheAnthonyGonzales]

He it’s the talent. Krystal is dead weight. Glad this man is getting the opportunity to shine

[@craigrussell3062]

Yes! And their second stringers, Ryan and Emily, are better than both of them!

[@xpindy]

He talks fast- but he's often incorrect.

[@ars-almadel_salomonis9680]

​@@xpindywould ask you to specify when, but i guess he just talks too fast.

[@scottsetzke7967]

He says Biden is one of the worst presidents ever on this show but on his show he nods and agrees with all of Krystals batshit stupid takes.

[@nyew1231]

"Anyone I disagree with is dead weight"

[@MagnumTriumph]

3:10 "Grocery prices went up by 25 percent". More like 100%. They said the same rubbish at the start of the Trump-Biden debate.

[@beenokok529]

You don’t need to lie about the percent of groceries prices going up. It went up 25 percent, now you can say it feel like 100% because Car, gas, house, insurance prices also went up. To give a better picture

[@danevanwinkle196]

@@beenokok52999 percent of the people crying about inflation are also the ones to spend $10 on a drink from Starbucks and we’re already living way above their means

[@gloriataruc8371]

Groceries did go up 100% and that’s not including gas, cat , houses, commodities! 😡😡😡

[@TheJrRobin]

​@@gloriataruc8371 which groceries?

[@MagnumTriumph]

@@gloriataruc8371 He's probably just a bot lol.

[@Idealdeath8304]

I’m a conservative who can’t stand Bush but Biden is worse. And way more divisive.

[@jerry85g7]

Bush was worse.

[@danevanwinkle196]

If you look at our current political landscape and see Joe Biden as divisive… you are in a bubble

[@bobaz1]

Can you please elaborate on how the Biden administration is worse than the presidential administration who started two wars, thousands of dead Americans, and whose policies led to the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression? Oh wait, it was the price of eggs (which, by the way, was caused by the culling of the chicken population due to a massive bird flu outbreak).

[@diamonddave16]

💯

[@jeremywitkowski7860]

@@danevanwinkle196Biden called Trump supporters garbage. Seems kind of divisive

[@crewmax4240]

"I think he has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades,” former Defense Secretary Robert Gates says of Vice President Joe Biden....Make that five.

[@sbvc1940]

Not nearly, he was wrong on ALL his foreign policy agendas.

[@joeclaridy]

Robert Gates is no saint himself but his quote is correct.

[@PierreHolmes]

2:24 Saagar, while talking about FDR and JFK, seems to be saying that the vigor and charisma of a president is what makes them great as opposed to the actual accomplishments they have achieved. I strongly disagree with him if that's the case he's making. You can still be a good president without being seen as charismatic. Abraham Lincoln was almost vilified as president during the Civil War and faced intense opposition over willingness to abolish slavery and restore the Union. Literally no one said Lincoln would be seen as a great president. History now ranks him as one of, if not, the greatest president. Same thing with Harry Truman. Truman was seen by some as weak and ineffective. He left office with his approval rating in 20s. Most historians now rank him among one of our best leaders. To say a president has to have vigor and charisma to be considered great is laughable. To me, charisma is an accessory, but not a necessity.

[@joeclaridy]

Wouldn't necessarily agree with your Truman assessment but everthing else was spot on.

[@PierreHolmes]

@@joeclaridy Thank you!

[@Mr.Creosote15]

If I had to explain him in one word, arrogant would be that word.

[@BajatheChickenMan]

No one could be worse than Jimmy Carter... Joe Biden "Hold my ice cream."

[@ywtcc]

George W. Bush Democratic presidents since 1968 have been ineffective. Republican presidents have been a toxic disaster. There seems to be asymmetric expectations, here. Republicans have dominated the government since 1968, and are now the party of government, and the party of the status quo. Democrats are the party of the opposition, out of power and ineffective. It's long past the time where priors are updated. The generation that remembers large Democratic majorities is living on a different plane of reality at this point.

[@alexfortin7209]

Jimmy Carter might have far too smart and honest to be a good President.

[@diamonddave16]

😂

[@jamiearmstrong3487]

Iran ​@@alexfortin7209

[@buckwheat6245]

@@alexfortin7209 I agree. They definitely sabotaged Jimmy Carter.

[@mikkim2000]

Saagar is great to listen to.

[@pfzt]

Yes he is. He, Emily and Marshall are the only reasons to watch their program.

[@degreaseLLC]

I have been listening to him for years but this interview helped me realize that he is very dishonest. He says exactly what he needs to say to get views and keep that money rolling in.

[@Scorch428]

@@pfzt I only watch it for Sagaar. Krystal is no longer standable.

[@sc3439]

Don’t forget he blew up Nordstream Pipeline! Is he more corrupt or inept?

[@diamonddave16]

👏👏

[@thedin3467]

Climate alarmist missed the "science" on that one.

[@init100]

Or at least he promised to if Russia invaded Ukraine, and then it blew up, so he's the prime suspect.

[@zackhawn5944]

You can quickly tell how brainwashed someone is by asking them if they think Russia would blow up Nordstream.

[@abbott5580]

Krystal is so lucky to have Saagar.

[@MLDeS100]

They're lucky to have each other. Saagar has some deep flaws in ideology that she counters as well.

[@johnpalmer5131]

I agree, without Saagar Krystal is just another washed former msnbc pretty meat puppet.

[@abbott5580]

@ na she sucks

[@diamonddave16]

@@abbott5580💯

[@brooklynbud1138]

@@MLDeS100does he? He doesn’t fall for the woke grift like Krystal and Kyle do

[@Mackahroney]

Saagar really is saving breaking point

[@amarissimus29]

Correction: Krystal is destroying Breaking Points.

[@arodgefan589]

@@amarissimus29yeah she’s ridiculously clouded and biased. Saagar isn’t in absolute line with the GOP’s talking points and brings original thought.

[@CCEkeke]

@@arodgefan589 Except when it comes to immigration and civil rights. Watch any of his views about using military to quell the BLM riots or closing America's borders to ALL immigrants (not just illegals).

[@russkiy6ot]

@@arodgefan589it only seems that way because he’s a conservative playing devil’s advocate.

[@christinelivebird]

So many people dead around the world because of this fool.

[@xpindy]

Yes, but they died so noblely.

[@stevenweiss2575]

That’s just delerious.

[@StorytellerDude66]

I found Saagar's assessment of 20th-century presidents so fascinating! I need to read more on this!

[@c433z]

Right? He makes me want to read more history haha

[@raymondyudain7507]

FREE SAAGAR, help him to escape from Krystal. He would be so much better off without her.

[@BajatheChickenMan]

I think she funds the show. She's got stupid money.

[@JimBo0o5]

Truth! I stopped watching Breaking Points because of Krystal

[@scottdinser9483]

I think yall are missing the point of the show. You are supposed to disagree with at least one of them lol

[@joshamaya196]

​@scottdinser9483 it started out that way, now it seems only Krystal can show outtrage with her husband, and Saagar is being held with a knife to his throat.

[@pfzt]

I would disagree with that. He shines even more next to Krystal and her Husband.

[@simbabuilds9338]

I love Sagaar’s passion for history and this country

[@Rd-bi7vr]

Judgement is a kind word to describe GWB’s decision to invade Iraq: it was pathological indifference for human life . Million Iraqis died and thousands of our troops

[@bradthompson5383]

Yep. GWB should be in prison for life without parole along with everyone that didn't dissent. And that's merciful.

[@joecoleman288]

I graduated in Poly Sci, but listening to Saagar here I feel like I must've slept through my major classes.

[@willyD200]

Good points by both , host + guest.

[@AndogaSpock]

Saagar: I would like to think of Joe Biden as an individual as a president Also Saagar: Sam Harris is not able to look past Trump as an individual. Also Saagar: Joe Biden's narcissism is a big problem. 😂

[@NilsEchterling]

indeed

[@jakemilano8868]

Perfect

[@DJCloroxx]

Fundamentally Biden and Trump are equally awful people. Trump isn't palitable to the establishment because he also thinks he actually gets to make decisions. Biden's just happy to be along for the grift.

[@yomamapwnz]

Facts

[@danevanwinkle196]

The trumpies proving the point in the comments makes this even funnier 😂

[@Truth_Hurts528]

Alistair Cooke of "Letters from America" fame once put it, under FDR it was the closest America ever came to National Socialism.

[@Pattern-Recognition]

Amazing insights and thesis. Highly appreciated.

[@denroy3]

This guy is an idiot, half of what he said was wrong

[@shawnsdrumcave]

"Never underestimate Joe's ability to f^ck things up" Barrack Obama... and Biden proved that quote accurate over the last 4 yrs.

[@jayumble8390]

Fantastic interview!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!

[@sirreptitious6645]

Much of a president ‘s actions do not manifest until much later. A critical exception is the hope and optimism, or lack thereof, that a president can inspire in the people.

[@markkirby9531]

I think there is a common factor regarding how one becomes a "bad" President in the modern era. The perception of foreign weakness. Yes, domestic policy failures or successes have an impact, but I think there is a general understanding that any given President doesn't have the same level of control over domestic policy as they do over foreign policy. Domestic policy issues can certainly cause political problems, but foreign policy issues are harder to duck responsibility for. Most Americans want their country to be respected and thought to be strong by the rest of the world. They generally have little tolerance for a President who does not make that happen.

[@joeclaridy]

Thank you sir. Thank you for recognizing that majority of the federal government's role, inclduding the presidency, is foriegn policy.

[@CCEkeke]

FDR also came from money but was fighting against other elites for the American people. That can't be understated.

[@harter517]

FDR is also the reason why the 22nd amendment was passed

[@PrasanthThomas-r7l]

The same goes for Trump

[@debbiedorr3986]

Thank you

[@NilsEchterling]

So when it comes to Trump, you argue that he should not be judged by his character, but by his accomplishments. But when it comes to Biden, you argue that he should be judged by his character, and not by his accomplishments. And that's why he's the worst president.

[@jakemilano8868]

It’s embarrassing

[@gardenphoto]

"Creepy Joe" should DEFINITELY be judged by his accomplishments... of which there are exactly ZERO... in fact, his "accomplishments" are in the NEGATIVE column! End of assessment... except for that part about how he should be in PRISON for his traitorous involvement in Barisma while he was Vice President!!! The "two-tier" system of "injustice" incarnate!

[@Steve-qy8or]

RHEEEEEEEEEE BUT TRUMP!!!!!!

[@TaylorMade1996]

What accomplishments?

[@worldobserver3515]

What accomplishments did Biden have? I am so tired of hearing this nonsense.

[@williamlitten2444]

Glad to see that Sagaar also thinks that Bush is the worst president of our lifetimes. There is a lot of competion for worst president.

[@Water64Rabbit]

I don't think anyone that lived through the Carter years would agree.

[@williamlitten2444]

​@Water64Rabbit see, I'm not that old. If only someone were alive to tell us that, no, Andrew Johnson was the worst president in US history.

[@strategery101]

Biden is easily the worst in history. He did the horrible things he did to the country on PURPOSE

[@ap7498]

Very smart man, but it’s hard to listen to him have a “conversation” Lex is trying to get to questions and he can only get partially there before a five minute historical lecture ensues

[@ivanm.5552]

Bro’s making up for lost speaking time at Breaking Points 🤣 (I jest, I jest 😝)

[@brooklynbud1138]

I mean, have you never listened to a longform podcast? That’s the point. This isn’t 60 Minutes or Fox News. Podcast audiences want a long answer to a question. It allows the guest to give in-depth answers. This is what a discussion sounds like. What a stupid comment.

[@Scorch428]

ITs called not sqandering an opportunity. I think you are looking for the 10 second clips on mainstream media.

[@chookchack]

Im looking forward for Biden’s greatest comeback this 2028 election.

[@joshamaya196]

Thank God its only Saagar and not Krystal.

[@bosswan118]

The intellectual gap between them is staggering. The more I think about it, Saagar keeps Krystal around to make himself look good.

[@davidjohnnielsen]

While I am no Biden sycophant, I am an historian and believe anybody making the claim that a sitting president will be seen as the worst or among the worst presidents in modern history, lacks historical perspective. And critically, what is missing from this entire discussion are the circumstances within which the “Biden inflation” occurred. Let’s recap just what led up to the Biden election and presidency- 1- In the two years prior to the pandemic, specifically in 2018 and 2019, there were reports of strains and reorganization within the U.S. intelligence community. One significant move involved the disbanding of the National Security Council's (NSC) global health security office in 2018. This office was responsible for coordinating responses to global pandemics and health threats. At the time, the office was either disbanded or its functions were absorbed by other parts of the NSC. This decision was widely criticized after the pandemic, with many experts arguing that it hindered the U.S. government's ability to quickly respond to COVID-19. 2- In the early days of the pandemic, particularly in January and February 2020, Donald Trump repeatedly downplayed the severity of the situation. For example: January 22, 2020: When asked about the coronavirus during an interview, Trump famously said, "We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine." February 27, 2020: Trump stated, “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.” March 2020: Trump also claimed that the virus would be "gone by Easter" (April 2020), and later expressed optimism about unproven treatments, such as hydroxychloroquine. Trump's public messaging during the early months of the pandemic was widely criticized for being overly optimistic and for underestimating the severity of the crisis. This contrasted with later developments, where the virus spread rapidly, contributed to a significant amount of confusion and frustration. 3- In the first six months of the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. experienced a sharp spike in unemployment due to widespread lockdowns and business closures. The highest unemployment rate reached was 14.8% in April 2020, which was the highest level since the Great Depression. The U.S. economy lost about 20.5 million jobs that month. In response to Great Depression levels of unemployment during Trump’s last year, Congress injected trillions of dollars into the economy that people couldn’t spend. A first year economics student could tell you THAT was what caused the inflation that followed. Finally, you can’t compare Biden’s legislative accomplishments with razor thin majorities in Congress to those of FDR who had historically huge majorities. The fact he got anything through that polarized, evenly divided congress is miraculous. There is really no precedent for it in US history. For this, Biden gets the opprobrium from your guest of being among the worst presidents in recent history. The fact is, he was dealt the political division and the mess created by probably the worst president in US history- the man who history shows set the stage for the pandemic, bungled its early stages when it might have been snuffed out, and then got the US into its worst economic crisis since the 1930s, and who the people have now somewhat stunningly re-elected.

[@PierreHolmes]

I appreciate your take as a historian and want to thank you for giving the necessary context needed to understand the circumstances surrounding Biden's presidency. You give a pretty objective analysis of the situation. Also, I'm pleased that you highlighted the fact that Biden got significant legislation passed despite the incredibly slim majorities in Congress. Let that sink in. Biden arguably has more domestic policy accomplishments than any president since Lyndon Johnson. Recent presidents like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton came into office with bigger majorities and with a less polarized political climate than today. Yet, both were, at times, unable to enact most of their agenda due to political inexperience or a misunderstanding of Washington politics. Like you said, presidents like FDR and LBJ had overwhelming majorities and had no almost problem enacting their New Deal and Great Society programs. Not to mention both had a liberal-leaning Supreme Court during their terms whereas Biden had to deal with a 6-3 conservative court. In my opinion, Biden has been a better president than many people give him credit for. Truly underrated. His best skill as president is probably is relations with Congress. History will be kinder to him than people are right now.

[@xpindy]

Biden is easily one of the worst, most corrupt people to be President- he is one of the worst Presidents and will only add to that when the history is written- he is, however, the champion of going on vacation ( no kidding, he did us a favor).

[@shawnladue8986]

What planet do you live on?

[@davidjohnnielsen]

The planet with better schools than yours.

[@shawnladue8986]

@@davidjohnnielsen They must be big on revisionist history in those schools.

[@rebeccawebb2298]

Newt Gingrich had the narcissistic personality type to run for president but failed to get the nomination in 2012

[@DannerBanks]

"A deeply inquisitive mind." Sigh, i wish all of our politicians had this

[@bmessier2]

Saagar is waaaay more interesting and insightful when Krystal is not around. Set yourself free Sagaar !

[@SR-ti6jj]

Saagar will never forgive Biden for not legalizing weed

[@Scorch428]

Sagaar wants weed banned...

[@johnhodge4996]

I agree with saagar. It isn't the " im a perfect person job"; it's the presidency, where simple goodness is not the only value or skillset at play to bring about a prosperous and safe america.

[@AaronCorrell-f9s]

It is so refreshing to hear Saagar unfettered by blind liberal talking points from BP.

[@ElPatron-sw7gb]

With Trump, no wars.

[@onepcwhiz6847]

Imagine the scene when they had to convince Biden not to run again. Presidential intervention!

[@bjorncarlson2580]

Saagar is the man!

[@chrisrhome6638]

Can this guy objectively critique Trump in the same way? Lolololololol

[@skolvikings354]

We Are Not Tired Of Winning despite the Dems throwing everything possible at him including bullets. What an Epic Landslide Loss. America 🇺🇸 is back.

[@johnsambo9379]

Sure but Biden is a demon and you know it.

[@Scorch428]

Youre just racist.

[@elagabalusrex390]

He did during the interview, and obliquely called him a charismatic dunce. Hardly a ringing endorsement, in my opinion.

[@whatmadelinesays]

Oh and by the way - Reagan absolutely hated FDR and all is his policies

[@joeclaridy]

Not just Reagan, many hated his policies and how it grew government into the massive blob it is today.

[@bradthompson5383]

Reagan was a great communicator. But an awful, treasonous president.

[@HT-jj5sx]

The U.S. is currently outperforming every other G7 country after the world wide crisis. I guess that doesn’t matter though, man, no forest here huh? Just trees.

[@diamonddave16]

😂😂

[@minimatemasterworks]

When have we not?

[@theShartLord]

You basically just referenced the fact that water is still wet as proof that Biden is great

[@HT-jj5sx]

@@theShartLord Biden's economic agenda and legislative decisions put us in that position. I'm not sure how that fact is congruent with the statement that he's the 'worst President in modern history'. Saagar's argument seems to boil down to "Trump got elected again, so Biden sucks". Which is crazy.

[@thedin3467]

Glad rich people are doing fine.

[@ekimbangola]

I love this. All of a sudden, history is cool again, and reading is necessary and must be a priority.

[@NickFromDetroit]

Not when you read only liberal authors. Then you get brainwashed, like Saagar.

[@PV96]

You can’t say W. was the worst President. He wasn’t really President, Cheney was.

[@guinea_horn]

Biden isn't really president either

[@Themata]

7:44 reminds me of a P J O'rourke quote: No one capable of become President should under any circumstances be allowed to do the job. Maybe from Eat The Rich?

[@Garrettg4667]

I would just want to point out the economy numbers are high.. (Black friday numbers broke records). Russia seems to be losing steam in the middle east from assad going down. Yes biden presidency wasn't perfect, but it sure as hell beat when my grandma died from covid, and I couldn't get work because all bars were closed in 2020.

[@HP-fn4bo]

You live in a blue state?

[@init100]

And who decided to do all of that during Covid? It's unlikely that it was the president. It's much more likely that it was your state governor.

[@brooklynbud1138]

If you want someone to blame for your grandmother dying, blame Anthony Fauci and Xi Jinping. The only way you’re going to stop a novel pandemic is through vaccination, and herd immunity

[@Garrettg4667]

@ I live in Tex but moved out of country during covid

[@elkoikan5993]

I wonder why we never saw Trumps grades. Bet it is not because he had As, lol

[@brooklynbud1138]

Who cares. You can always tell the idiots that actually watch MSNBC. The talking points expose themselves.

[@bcloudengineers]

This guy is good

[@larion3296]

Very difficult subject. US presidents are probably judged primarily on the current household economy and somewhat on foreign affairs. The economy is a slow process and prior presidents might have as strong influence as the current president. At the moment US economy is considerably larger than the economy of China, after being almost at the same size a few years ago. But a lot of this money is in the pockets of the mega rich, and therefore most people do not notice it.

[@onepcwhiz6847]

FDR was not a dictator. Congress could have easily blocked a lot of his ideas. They chose not to.

[@Lisa_In_Canada]

I always enjoy Saagar and I enjoy him even more without Krystal.

[@V511-x6p]

Biden did great for my family The company I work for has a 2 year backlog of sold Business Jets Plus the stock is up and the economy's doing great. If you love Trump, you would say the economy is bad but the number say otherwise

[@JeremyWashington1489]

I like Saagar but LBJ was literally one of the worst presidents ever

[@bradthompson5383]

He and every president since has been a traitor.

[@PatamaGomutbutra]

Remember as who make housing become speculative asset that will not end well.

[@jlg395]

Interesting discussion, but this is a deeply insecure individual.

[@KoriePrince]

Not a huge fan of breaking points… well I’m not huge fan of Krystal’s but Saagar is spot on. Biden will be remembered as the worst president in modern history and considering we live in a world with W. Bush… that is an incredible achievement

[@joeclaridy]

Did people forget that we had a Carter presidency?

[@KoriePrince]

@ no. Most of us just weren’t alive for it.

[@ryrad13]

Well said.

[@XkaiX]

The video cuts him off mid sentence lol

[@AlohaKutla]

Reason why Democrats lost is because of economy. Friend of mine who lives in California hits me up and asks for a loan. This was shocking as he earns more than me and have a house in California! Turns out he earns 250k and wife brings in another 70K, but after tax total earnings is less than half of that. He said that city had increased the property tax, along with the inflation has reduced his earning by 25%. So he was dependent on food bank for the last week of the month as he could not afford food if all bills were paid. My friend was 3rd of 4th gen staunch Democrat, he voted for Trump this year and is planning to leave California.

[@BakhtiyarNeyman]

Didn't Biden pass more legislation among the recent presidents, second only to Trump?

[@NickFromDetroit]

This discussion is so sad. Saagar reads liberal authors’ books on past presidencies, like Jean Edward Smith & Robert Caro, and praises the worst presidents, like the Polio Prince. He has been brainwashed. Herbert Hoover made his fortune as a mining engineer, not a banker. He was a genius at managing huge mining concerns around the world. He was also a progressive, like the terrible Teddy Roosevelt. Hoover took the ‘29 Crash & resulting recession and, along with horrible monetary policy from The Fed, turned a fairly manageable recession into a depression by 1932. But it was the Raw Deal policies of the Polio Prince that made the depression Grrrrrrreat! 1933-37 were terrible years for America. While the most of the world recovered economically, FDR’s Keynesian super-spending pushed us further into the Great Depression. The Polio Prince also slashed military spending to the bone so that he could pay grown men to plant trees! The sad result being the U.S. military was ranked 16th in the world, just behind Portugal, in 1940; which gave the Japanese the belief they could hit us hard enough at Pearl Harbor, Wake, Guam, and The Philippines that we would sue for peace and stay out of their attempt to take over the whole of the Far East, including Australia. Democrats got us into major wars in the 20th Century because they always cut defense spending for social programs.

[@Yakub9000]

Does he think the sunglasses enhance his points? They don't.

[@whatmadelinesays]

Okay I literally can’t handle this - you could sub out Trumps name for FDR or Bernie when they talk about being a King or Jesus. All I’ve learned from this is that Trump copied FDRs strategy because it worked

[@keokihiga8462]

Whoever got elected in 2020 was going to struggle with inflation. Also we did have some of the lowest inflation worldwide since then. I really think a lot of people here are a prisoner of the moment.

[@pingpongballz5998]

That's true. But also, this administration kept sending billions of dollars to other countries. I wouldn't say Biden is the worst. He's not the best either.

[@johnsambo9379]

You know nothing about history or Joe Biden.

[@ryebr3ad]

Oh inflation is just getting started. We've kicked the can down the road enough; the debt burden is too huge for taxes to cover the bill in a reasonable length of time and nobody wants to hold USTs any more. This is beyond the scope of any president to fix, let alone MMTers like Trump or Harris

[@functionalvanconversion4284]

Yup, I guess we forgot 40% increase in US money supply during pandemic?

[@scottsetzke7967]

​@@functionalvanconversion4284which caused more inflation... They did it on purpose to make their donors ultra wealthy

[@robertweinmann9408]

FDR wasn't universally loved, especially in later years. My grandmother, who was raising my dad then, despised Roosevelt.

[@NickFromDetroit]

Exactly! When you only read liberal authors/biographers on past presidents, like Saagar does, you never hear the truth as you just stated. I was born in ‘67, and all of my grandparents, including my maternal ones from Canada, loved The Polio Prince. My dad couldn’t stand FDR. And I’ve learned even more reasons to despise his administration.

[@Orionsbelt31]

FDR and Great New Deal ... watch Thomas Sowell and or Milton Friedman -- the economy was already recovering AND it was the GND [keynesian economics] slowed the natural recovery, ultimately dragging on the pain.

[@TrippHartman]

Did lex not invite looney Krystal? Kind of like watching her destroy her reputation.

[@Tobez]

#BonghitsforSaagar

[@Antitotalitarianrevolutionary]

The new deal was always a scam sold by a charismatic snake oil salesman.

[@seanimac7759]

It was Obama's Third Term. It was obvious from day one. So, if you're going to say " he's the worst president of all time " let's get it straightened out. Obama. Then Carter. This guy keeps saying he is a history nerd. What got America out of the Great Depression, is nothing but WW2. " I know what it takes to be President" lmao.

[@WorldwideRealityVideos]

He said he was going to cure cancer....

[@korlu01]

If I were asked this question this would be a 45 minute clip. The list is long and gets more abysmal and disturbing as it goes on. And I vehemently disagree with Saagar about both George W being worse. I waited until the endless arms to Israel with zero restrictions despite all signs pointing to this being a genocide before I made that determination. And make no mistake, the list will lengthen and get more filthy by the time January 20th rolls around. It can’t be put into words. The adjectives are not there. The most pathetic, pitiful, dangerous, destructive, narcissistic, out of touch, war mongering, hypocritical, incompetent and aloof leader in this nations history. There is no lower than Joe Biden and what his administration has brought about in 4 of the darkest years in this nations history.

[@Rd-bi7vr]

You should also list all his accomplishments just to be fair .

[@revydmat]

"Idolatry of self" 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@polymathlevel8]

Empty platitudes from Enjeti, a corporate sponsored hack. Just what the public need.

[@brooklynbud1138]

We found the swamp creature: you

[@adaml6036]

I just keep hoping Saagar will grow some balls, but as time goes on it’s becoming clear that he’s a Swamp Creature. Sad.

[@shaunMcAlpineSFM]

How exactly?

[@newmanifest]

Bush worse than Carter?!?! Not a chance.

[@NickFromDetroit]

Saagar is a political neophyte and know-nothing, being a Millennial, and all. He thinks history began the year he was born.

[@Rd-bi7vr]

This was supposed to be about Biden but more time spent on FDR and past presidents !! lol .

[@TheCMM1993]

Loved Saagar in the early days of breaking points, but he's better without his BALL and chain

[@jamesmass1583]

Fart

[@trkddy]

Biden is a great president. He did a great job

[@tyroilsmoochiewallace9852]

Interesting and enjoyable even though I don’t agree with the accolades to FDR.

[@robertallen4694]

Naive

[@neobaud513]

I mean he is a c student but that is all we wanted remember? Remember how bad things were in 2020? Things are much better now in 2024 . The worst president in modern history and maybe in our entire history is clearly Donald Trump.

[@brooklynbud1138]

Really? Trump had the vaccines rolling out. No president would have been able to stop a novel virus. If you want someone to blame, blame the virus’s creator: Anthony Fauci. Sounds like you have TDS.

[@xpindy]

Are you a guy? All we wanted was a C student? Check your shorts.

[@toddtheisen8386]

Biden Presidency is over. Time to start criticizing Trump's past performance and his second term actions.

[@NickFromDetroit]

Umm….nope.

[@degreaseLLC]

I have been listening to Saagar on breaking points for years but this interview with Lex made it Ultra clear that he is just another lying media figure that says whatever it takes to get the views and to keep the cash rolling in.

[@nc818]

I can’t agree with everything this guys says. George W Bush gave us Donald Trump and LBJ was the greatest politician ever 🥴

[@xpindy]

W is not the person most responsible for Trump. Bill Clinton is. Without Clinton lowering the moral bar (and pretty much removing it and tossing it over the fence like a javelin) the three time married Trump never gets a sniff at the Presidency. It's kind of what makes it so much more delicious.

[@brooklynbud1138]

Nobody gives a shit about the moral bar. It’s about what the president can accomplish. All people care about is the performance.

[@NickFromDetroit]

Disagree….mostly. Of course, Bubba the R@pist lowered the bar. But it was Bohner, Cantor, and Ryan, on top of the GOPe forcing John McLame & RomneyCare on the base in ‘08 & ‘12, who wouldn’t fight back against Obama, Pelosi, and the MSM, who made Trump possible in ‘16. The anger of the T.E.A. Party AT BOTH PARTIES gave Trump the opening he needed to pound all of the RINOs and the most conservative candidate, Ted Cruz, because he was in the Senate and deemed part of the problem by the low-information voters who made up a good chunk of Trump’s supporters.

[@Idealdeath8304]

Saagar is unbearable sometimes

[@brooklynbud1138]

Not nearly as much as some of the far left KZbinrs like Kyle Kulinski and Vaush

[@Scorch428]

Krystal is the one whos unbearable and biased. Sagaar will call out his side while Krystal wont.

[@420funny6]

No one takes sagaar or Krystal seriously

[@archmage_of_the_aether]

420funny6, you are no 420funny3

[@diamonddave16]

They’re clowns

[@robj362]

Just logically looking at it ask yourself. Was your quality of life better under trump or biden. Thats the core reason i believe Trump won a second term

[@ConstructionDisputes]

Was Hoover a Banker? thought he was an engineer.

[@AdaLovelace-c8n]

Lex can’t keep up with sagaars tongue 😅

[@Oklahomahiker405]

Facts