A NR film about the common faults found on the Class 455 EMU and how to best remedy them yourself before looking like a Tit when Fleet turn up :)
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@therealvbw4 жыл бұрын
legend has it the driver is still breaking the traction interlock seal on every train to this day
@abloogywoogywoo3 жыл бұрын
"Welcome to the academy of science. How smart are you?" "I'm a physicist working on string theory," "Yeah, so?" "I can also restart a crappy dead class 455." "Right this way sir!"
@Hudson633r11 жыл бұрын
i don't drive trains, but it's good to be prepared
@mk84ldb4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, best be prepared. When is the exam?
@Robdc893 жыл бұрын
@@mk84ldb The class 455 isn't used a lot nowadays, Southern and South Western Railway are the only TOC's that use these trains, and South Western Railway are thinking of replacing them.
@Train_PlaneFan1233 жыл бұрын
I remember being on a class 455 its door died and kept opening
@JettisonTheSupreme3 жыл бұрын
@@Robdc89 i love the 455s, used to live on the waterloo-guildford line, took those every time i went into london. now ik how to fix the train when the driver passes out.
@Robdc893 жыл бұрын
@@JettisonTheSupreme The class 455 aren't used much on the Waterloo to Guildford line, it's usually the class 707, that mostly run that line. but they do fully run on London suburban line's, such as Waterloo to Woking, and Waterloo to Chessington South or Windsor & Eton Riverside. Southern rail also use the class 455 on their metro services, from London Victoria and London Bridge.
@johnpoole83324 жыл бұрын
Is the configuration AB-BA because the train is going to Waterloo?
@droge1924 жыл бұрын
Love it! You win the internet sir. :o)
@pigeonette3 жыл бұрын
omg
@squeaksvids58863 жыл бұрын
Mamma Mia! 🤦🏼♂️😂😂
@stephensmith7998 жыл бұрын
How the heck do drivers remember all of this?! I was lost completely after a couple of minutes....
@darrencafferty8 жыл бұрын
that's why it takes a long time to be signed off on a type as well as the route knowledge. you need to know practically every inch of track. For example at night you come around a bend and there's a road running parallel to the track and there's a traffic light on the road showing red, is that a signal at danger or s traffic light? You HAVE to know 😀
@thihal1238 жыл бұрын
Yes, overly complicated
@marcuspotter55903 жыл бұрын
Why would Fleet be called in if you could just remedy it yourself? Why not just cancel them once you've fixed it?
@MM0SDK8 жыл бұрын
Are regular drivers required to perform all this or is it for the engineers? I'm loving the shoe fuse.... copper plate....lol. Any idea how many amps those fuses are rated at by any chance? I know the voltage is very high, so maybe not as high as i think. 200 Amp?
@darrencafferty8 жыл бұрын
The ee507 traction motor draws a max of 2200 amps so the fuse is probably 2500 to 3000. I'll find out for you0
@darrencafferty8 жыл бұрын
Here's a graph showing amperage draw over time in seconds. columbia.libpthread.so/rw/cl455-perf/CurrentVsTime.png
@railwaymechanicalengineer45879 ай бұрын
When Starting a 12-car EMU formation out of Waterloo on the 750v DC system, the train would at starting, draw normally 3200 amps. Over at Euston a Class 86 starting a 12-car train would only draw 65 amps. Because the current was 25,000v AC.
@eswnl17 ай бұрын
@@railwaymechanicalengineer4587 wouldn't be surprised if the rail got slightly warm with that current.
@EASYTIGER1010 жыл бұрын
He should get the passengers to give the train a push
@PottersVideos25 жыл бұрын
No you'd be better off just detraining them and getting them to walk to the station with a suitable escort. This would require a block on all lines and a traction current isolation so is something only done as a last resort!
@lexifillems4 жыл бұрын
Potter's Police, Security and Railway videos Don't you do humor? ;)
@limwaik4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if simliar of Class 317/318 has same problem with this video of 455 except wooden paddles (pantograph rises/lowers) AND yaw dampers (90-100 mph) problems?
@PottersVideos25 жыл бұрын
22:30 What do you do with the passengers? Presumably taking them to a station would be better?
@billpugh584 жыл бұрын
Just pull our that 750V DC fuse with your bare hands! Paddle up looking directly at the arc. He is my hero!
@Tuppoo9411 ай бұрын
Maybe he's just tired of his life.
@johnsfo20237 жыл бұрын
Might I suggest that when looking & listening around and between cars for defective hoses & connectors you do it on the side opposite that of the electric third rail? Out on the line, it's unguarded completely--no protective slats--so if you slip, stumble, or trip you could make accidental contact with it and the earthed train body, which could very well be a 750-volt ouchie.
@timtube16634 жыл бұрын
Forgive my ignorance, what does a 'motor alternator' do? Does the train not pick up aux power supply directly from the conductor rail?
@jonwhite42504 жыл бұрын
No, the third rail supplies 750v Dc which isn’t too useful for auxiliary supplies hence the alternator turns it into a more useful voltage, most likely 415v ac 3 phase,
@vincitveritas38725 жыл бұрын
Look like electric sprinters. Which I guess sprinters were similar body shells to these
@grassytramtracks Жыл бұрын
That's because they more or less are, but one difference is that being intended for relatively short journeys, they don't have toilets
@vincitveritas3872 Жыл бұрын
@@grassytramtracks thank you
@droge1924 жыл бұрын
Was all very safety-orientated until the very last comment in the video.... "Remember, LOST TIME IS LOST MONEY".
@Phil621912 жыл бұрын
nice, thanks for sharing mate
@CosgroveNotts10 жыл бұрын
I can just see drivers going through this routine. Too many health and safety issues now. There will be more cock ups
@Househead12002 жыл бұрын
Get train from a to b getting commuters home on time. Terry Medford, Surbiton.
@ronzomac62464 жыл бұрын
No pressure on the driver. Get on to fleet to stop their constant tea and biscuits and get them out to do your job. YOUR A DRIVER NOT A FUCKING TECH.
@ukar697 жыл бұрын
Traction current isolation, that’s a paddlin’. Blown shoe fuse, that’s a paddlin’. Damaged shoe gear, ooh you better believe that’s a paddlin'
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@malcolmcasey77043 жыл бұрын
@Devon Nelson glad I could help xD
@lexifillems4 жыл бұрын
I've always said the difficult thing about being a train driver is not the driving. It's dealing with faults (and the leaf fall season). This video proves it once again. Also, after seeing all this paddling I'm glad I never drove third-rail equipment. :)
@railwaymechanicalengineer45879 ай бұрын
What a whimp. You could have a lovely free fireworks display playing with paddles & hook switch poles or better still "Short Circuiting Bars". With Arcs flying over your head & lighting up the sky. Much better than Guy Fawkes Night !!!!
@davidfrobel758211 жыл бұрын
don't know if I would want to mess whith the power rail in the rain that guy has got balls of steal.
@eddieafterburner22 күн бұрын
Don’t think I’d want to mess with third rail power if I had balls of steel, either
@TheOpenSourceGamer11 жыл бұрын
I imagine you'd actually begin by thinking "Oh fuck not again"
@railwaymechanicalengineer45879 ай бұрын
TODAY'S REALITY !!! Great idea, except that in more recent years passenger "Train Operating Company" Drivers are no longer allowed to rectify faults. Because they are driving a train that belongs to a different company. One of the three "Train Owning Companies" who don't want other companies staff touching their equipment. Hence when a minor fault such as a faulty sliding door occurs, the whole train may simply have to be taken out of service, inconveniencing passengers.
@chrismarshall34598 жыл бұрын
can't believe I just watched 31 minutes of this.......
@Richardsrailway11 жыл бұрын
Film locations btw, Wimbledon park traincare depot, chessington south station
@lrjtherailwayguy10 ай бұрын
Driver:does anyone here knows how to start a failed 455 Me:my time has come
@ronzomac62464 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't put my hands near any poxy copper fuses even after paddling up. Just tell them you've tried everything and get the fitters out. There probably sitting playing cards in the bothy anyway.
@royfreeman62613 ай бұрын
Doing that sort of thing in the dark on a rainy night in the middle of nowhere with (hopefully isolated) conductor rails nearby. No thanks. An old EPB driver told me that some drivers would partly pull out a fuse in the cab cupboard and use the arc to light their cigarette!
@no-uy9er3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if you did everything in the video and your problem wasn’t solved
@rearspeaker6364 Жыл бұрын
its a class 60 "the train is a fail".
@Trek0017 жыл бұрын
Video makes note of there being a Class 508 non motor trailer but fails to mention the two cars from the second Class 210 prototype
@james1232127 жыл бұрын
at the time this video was made there would only be 1 ex 210 vehicle in service.
@lemonbirdo13533 жыл бұрын
6:28 - They seriously just reversed the clip from 6:21.
@SprinterPlayz7 ай бұрын
I need to get a CRT tv and watch this on it lol
@JordonSkinner9 жыл бұрын
Is there a video like this for 444/450 desiro units???
@LewisCollard4 жыл бұрын
I'm good because I derive endless amusement from the word "cock" being used so much but how did I end up in this corner of KZbin anyway
@paulanderson794 жыл бұрын
"tap" would perhaps be a better word to use.
@lexifillems4 жыл бұрын
paulanderson79 That's actually the original meaning of cock.
@paulanderson794 жыл бұрын
@@lexifillems I know. I have to admit that it's the constant repetition that bugged me rather than the word's colloquial and contemporary usage.
@hugebartlett18845 жыл бұрын
Home at last,and the wife asks what sort of a day have you had? Wondering if there's a job going on the buses.
@mk84ldb4 жыл бұрын
Just the other day I was thinking how to fix a problem on my own personal Class 455 running gear. What ARE the odds I would hit upon this video??
@kenstevens5065 Жыл бұрын
I never realised drivers had this sort of responsibility in dealing with various faults. I suppose in steam days you just needed a big hammer, the bigger the better!
@Tuppoo9411 ай бұрын
Back in the days of steam you had to "dump the fire" out of the fire box if the boiler water level dropped too low, otherwise the boiler could explode in your face.
@DaveDVideoMaker3 жыл бұрын
18:10 Close these isolating cox.
@ThatVoxelBlock Жыл бұрын
at 29:49 in the handbook theres class 400
@AkomishTiddies8 жыл бұрын
I was driving class 455 in TS2015 and brakes failed to release. Now rewatching this XD
@darrencafferty8 жыл бұрын
I've had a go on that and it's not too bad. The braking dynamics are all wrong with the mk1 units as with tread brakes they don't work too well at speed whereas slow speeds they really bite. Good fun and a couple of the routes on that are fairly accurate in terms of signal positions. I would even say you could catch up on route knowledge 😉
@AkomishTiddies8 жыл бұрын
+darren cafferty well, at least Armstrong Powerhouse thought about tread brakes realism. But only in class 205 so far
@darrencafferty8 жыл бұрын
+Delsin I didn't know you could drive a Thumper on it, love them old bastards
@AkomishTiddies8 жыл бұрын
+darren cafferty they released it just a couple of weeks ago or something like that
@darrencafferty8 жыл бұрын
+Delsin I'll have to have a butchers at that. I hope it's nice and claggy and they've got the right sounds for her, the Turbo whistle on notch 7 is a must!!! 😀
@LongHaulPilot11 ай бұрын
Where is paul tyreman?
@tobysummers4718 жыл бұрын
one thing i have always wondered is why are there rails that are not used inside the 4 foot? I
@darrencafferty8 жыл бұрын
if you're talking about 'loose' rails, then they are normally dumped in pairs in the 4 foot when a renewal is due
@weeardguy8 жыл бұрын
And in the Netherlands (and probably other parts of Europe as well) it's become increasingly common to strengthen the complete track by mounting a pair of extra rails in the middle.
@davecook38406 жыл бұрын
4ft “check” rails are fitted where slippage is likely such as on tight curves or over some bridges where ballast levels are low. Other than that the rail in the 4ft is (as already said) delivered where a rail change is happening at a later date
@darrencafferty12 жыл бұрын
@marccarless Just use an old broom handle and a pair of thick rubber gloves, that should keep the 25kv at bay :)
@angelsone-five79124 жыл бұрын
Kin ell, how can anyone remember that lot?! I`d call the AA.
@PottersVideos25 жыл бұрын
8:10 What the hell do you with the passengers if you are not at a station? Presumably taking them the passengers to a station and then taking the unit out of service would be more sensible?
@warphammer Жыл бұрын
Inform the passengers they will be provided with alternate transportation. Then, retrieve the paddles to deal with the ensuing riot. Contact dispatch to send a flying squad for assistance. If further emergency assistance is required, set the machine gun isolating cock to the 'operate' position in the cab.
@musicforaarre8 жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting to my engineering type mentality. Very highly stimulating. Aarre Peltomaa
@darrencafferty8 жыл бұрын
thanks 😁
@applecounty11 жыл бұрын
Helps being an old Boy Scout to tie knots like that.
@darrencafferty11 жыл бұрын
I make you right but have you factored in the Giant Space Haddock of Lowestoft, otherwise a Causality Loop could theoretically occur!
@michealguillen84963 жыл бұрын
Oh boy old train old version same one of nyc subway R44 &R46 wich version are different from usa nyc 🇺🇸 and uk 🇬🇧 Right now my nyc subway cars are replaced new technology train now from R142 and R188b2001 IRT R142 /A 2007 to 2020 IND right now R44 was retired 2009 R46 will retired soon 2021 2023 by R211 . Uk models need retired and replaced
@BigKelvPark5 жыл бұрын
If there's a fault, check the relevant circuit breaker. How about the easy option of seeing if any of them are tripped and finding out what it supplies. There's so much padding in this film.
@JintySteam17 жыл бұрын
if it non of these work the unit needs scrapping.
@alberttwo688 жыл бұрын
Why the contact surface of the "plus" rail installed at up position? I think it will always be in worst condition - moisture, rain, icing, snow, etc. - hence bad conductance. Moreover, it must be danger for maintenance personal. I guess there is one only advantage it is just simplest installation along track. Explain please, experts. Thanks.
@bobwilliams83178 жыл бұрын
DC electricity flows from - to + so the + rail is simply the return path.
@alberttwo688 жыл бұрын
You did not understand question.
@bobwilliams83178 жыл бұрын
+alberttwo68 oh yes my bad. At my own guess I would say it would be easier from a maintenance standpoint to just put things on top instead of hooking underneath. For example on the DLR, trains cannot be powered through junctions because it would be too complex To have power rails throughout, which means if a train does not have enough momentum to coast it can stop and be immobilised in a junction.
@alberttwo688 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I guessed so. Simplest. But have some disadvantages ( dangerest for personal, susceptibility to precipitation). For example, in russia, we have here this one contact rail type yandex.ru/images/search?p=2&text=%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9%20%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%81%20%D0%B2%20%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE&img_url=http%3A%2F%2Fprivetstudent.com%2Fuploads%2Fposts%2F2012-12%2F1354881226_1c3542403e3f3e3b3842353d4b-13.png&pos=86&rpt=simage
@bobwilliams83178 жыл бұрын
+alberttwo68 yeah, that rail type would have the same issue. Also changing power delivery over the entire network and also adapting trains is a costly measure. It's cheaper just to do the maintenance needed. Also, with the shoes going over the contact surface all the time, I guess it would brush off any water or contaminants.
@g2macs4 жыл бұрын
yeh, just grab hold of that fuse mate.....whoops!....wiring fault that's just turned your heart into cooked rubber......sorry about that.
@t3hfuhr3r13 жыл бұрын
Bookmarked for...when I move to England...and start driving class 455s...
@markb84613 жыл бұрын
Proved usefu when fault finding on Thumper 205205
@artwegweiser62587 жыл бұрын
When did the Fireman and Brakeman go away? Lots of time and effort saved if the Engineer or Driver could stay with the throttle and let a second person,do the legwork for hot boxes, opening doors and calming, passengers.
@damianmatras85684 жыл бұрын
6:28 Is that... is that in reverse?
@CaptainJackSparrowisreal Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of getting a job at south western railways
@PottersVideos25 жыл бұрын
This is a South West Trains film, not an NR film.
@390h8er4 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know why 455/456's have manual air pipes and jumpers, instead of the combined connector block under the Tightlock coupling like other units?
@squeaksvids58863 жыл бұрын
I think it was something to do with tradition, the old southern region didn’t like change.
@CosgroveNotts5 жыл бұрын
You want this bloke to be a mechanic with no training. So scandalous
@handyboy53328 жыл бұрын
Horrible units: featureless, boring to work on (you don't drive them,) no character, nothing likeable at all.
@Jallge8 жыл бұрын
South West Trains apparently have an impeccable reliability record with these units. So the lack of style is at least traded for that. Personally I think they looked pretty decent before their refurbishment.
@JohnSmith-lh5sk8 жыл бұрын
True.
@roobear783 жыл бұрын
wooden paddles yip looks like british rail built tech to me!
@RobertSzasz8 жыл бұрын
Fleet will certainly give you the help you need to get going.... 😂
@bmcclure0561dad7 жыл бұрын
I like to fu** with fleet by calling them and give the FU2DIKFAC fault in the DRA while pissing on the overload switch! Loads of fun Mate, some times I stick the wsb light up my ass and stick my bum out the door at lorrie crossings!
@RobertSzasz7 жыл бұрын
bmcclure0561dad Fleet is a brand of enema in the USA
@bmcclure0561dad7 жыл бұрын
Aaaah come on, that was funny!
@contrapunctusmammalia399310 жыл бұрын
Why don't they have a reduction of brake cylinder pressure mean the application of the brakes?
@james1232127 жыл бұрын
its the way the braking system is designed it you have to apply pressure to the brake cylinders to apply brakes, the 3 step brake that is used on these units uses electrical signals to control the brake valves
@ErraticPT2 жыл бұрын
Take a shot everytime you hear the word shoe.
@coloradostrong2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it needs water or more coal?
@dad7720 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating...
@cjtait44159 жыл бұрын
good nice and edgucational
@ianbillericay12 жыл бұрын
The 455 is 750v dc
@643543 жыл бұрын
Why am I watching this It's not like they even use these trains anymore
@TheUnknown313 Жыл бұрын
They still do actuality… 2 years after you made that comment.
@grassytramtracks Жыл бұрын
They still do on south western
@paulanderson794 жыл бұрын
0:48 that's a very sleep decline.
@georgepom328Ай бұрын
Wimbledon flyover isn't that steep
@manxman80084 жыл бұрын
be nice if the sytem said what the fault was!
@mk84ldb4 жыл бұрын
Nope, that is why you go to school for 100 years
@ElliottHurst9 ай бұрын
Good luck getting drivers to do this sort of thing nowadays
@London10645 жыл бұрын
Great video👍
@FerroequinologistofColorado4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why but these kind of videos are very satisfying to watch.
@darrencafferty13 жыл бұрын
@markb846 I'm so glad I was able to help :) I love the old Thumpers, never had an opportunity to drive one
@joelharris13357 жыл бұрын
At least, the class 455s will be replaced by new trains by South Western Railway.
@xm34055 жыл бұрын
Thank god these shitty old trains are going!
@alexwallis-banbury771310 жыл бұрын
Yea its full of education but its just to boaring. :/
@adamlacey815 жыл бұрын
It's spelt 'boring'. Obviously you do need educating.