Part 4 of a training film made in the 1950's to teach train drivers about the then new diesel multiple unit railcar trains being introduced to replace steam trains.
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@5mnz7fg3 жыл бұрын
Even the shunter wears a tie.
@jasonl4411. Жыл бұрын
I used to be a shunter for Emu's. Must have been demanding to couple the connections for a whole shift before they were permanently fixed to the units
@grigoriibuzanov84813 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! Greetings from Russia’s train lovers 🚂
@glynjones25405 жыл бұрын
What a performance! At this time (1958 maybe?) the Southern Electric had been joining and dividing trains at stations for years. After dividing the first train would be off in a minute or so and the back half would leave for a different destination shortly after. Station staff would be blowing whistles to encourage passengers to get a move on.
@jasonl4411. Жыл бұрын
Southern had ep brakes though. These DMUs were air and vacuum brakes. Totally different
@sylviaelse50866 жыл бұрын
"These trains run very quietly". Compared with steam trains outside, I suppose that's true. Inside they were noisy indeed, especially in the leading car with two diesel engines under the floor.
@davidforster86545 жыл бұрын
With all this ‘global warming’ terrible shame that these old lines could not be opened up again, I have two within walking distance, M&GN and the LNER. A far greater load can be shifted on a train than on a articulated vehicle. A great film, very nostalgic and a pleasure to watch.... thank you.
@muttley88184 жыл бұрын
@MusicalElitist1 Then complain to China about their lack of environment standards. I agree with OP. Miss the clag of the old locos. They made very little contribution to global warming.
@danman46333 жыл бұрын
My Father worked in the track relaying gang on the M&GN during the 1950s, the track on this line was first class, they ripped it all up 1959/60.
@szymongorczynski76217 жыл бұрын
"Tokens must only ever be exchanged when the train is stationary." Aye, right. As if that ever happened.
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth38195 жыл бұрын
Szymon Gorczynski that was what it said in the rule book for DMUs and single manned locos, except if the vehicle was fiited automatic exchange gear.
@joshuaritchie38363 жыл бұрын
I believe that RETB tokens can exchanged on the move because it is using radios.
@johnson121able11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this film. I believe that one of the locations was county school station in Norfolk. Soon to reopen as part of the Mid Norfolk Railway.
@AndreiTupolev4 жыл бұрын
Always wondered why they used vacuum brakes (two pipes, furthermore, giving the shunter even more work) and screw couplings, and then yet more pipes and cables to connect for the multiple working (and what a faff to then have to go back to the cab and get the MW cables out of a cupboard) rather than buckeyes and perhaps even air brakes like EMUs. Perhaps it was so they'd be compatible for haulage by locos, which did happen a lot seeing how often they broke down.
@DanielsPolitics110 ай бұрын
I think it had to be remembered that at the time, unless you worked for the Southern Railway, vacuum brakes were just how brakes worked on trains. It may also have helped with crew acceptance. If you’re getting rid of beloved steam, you don’t want to also make them change how braking works. Screw couplings we’re used even on pre-war EMUs, so when these were designed, other couplings would have been considered novel.
@ridefast011 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for uploading this, it reminds me of seeing these trains being joined and split many years ago. I also enjoyed seeing Norwich and Ipswich as destinations, I know they used to split off a single unit/car to go from Saxmundham to Leiston and Aldeburgh so I will watch again more closely. Anybody else recognise the locations?
@stephensmith7998 жыл бұрын
Hah! Drivers on the former Cambrian Railways lines certainly exchanged tablets without stopping! In the days of steam, firemen could exchange tablets by hand at 40 mph! It was explained to me that this was necessary to keep to the timetable notwithstanding all the passing loops. 'Foreign' crew did not have this skill and this led to an accumulation of delays which put all traffic out of timetable. FORTY MPH and no drops!
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth38197 жыл бұрын
Stephen Smith yes, but the rule book says DMUs and single manned locomotives, unless fitted with automatic collector gear, were to stop to exchange tokens or staff; locomotives were to slow to 10mph unless fitted with automatic collector gear when they and DMUs could do the exchange at 25mph. As far as I'm aware no steam locos were fitted with automatic collector gear and so they should have been going no faster than 10mph. SOurce the various Sectional Appendices on the Limit of Shunt website. Those DMUs fitted with automatic collector gear (common on some Class105s intended for the M&GN lines) were fitted with a rubber panel after of the driver's doors. These I've been told were to protect the body panels from the pouch the token was in.
@Hihellohihellogoodbye5 жыл бұрын
true, they shouldn't have done but they did
@dkbmaestrorules5 жыл бұрын
@@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 no, there were quite a few steam locos with automatic exchange gear - it was widely used on the S&DJR, the Highland Railway, and the M&GNJR. Where DMUs had automatic exchange gear, the guard dealt with it instead of the driver.
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth38195 жыл бұрын
David Bumstead thanks I thought there would be steam locos with this equipment.
@Damocles17811 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed watching this; I knew DMU's can be linked up but I never knew different DMU types were coupled together. :)
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth38197 жыл бұрын
Damocles178 provided the multiple working systems were the same, there wouldn't be a problem. These 2 designs (BR Derby and Metro-Cammell) had IIRC yellow diamond markings on the control cable system. The later standard sysrem was the blue square system. There were in total 4 control system used - the first 3 were mainly used on the pre-Modernisation Scheme and the blue square system was used on the majority of the Modernisation Scheme designs. The only thing the driver hand to remember was to handle the train in line with the performance of the unit with the lower performance.
@class45peak11 жыл бұрын
Absolute joy to watch
@galbeadon12 жыл бұрын
Great video. How very maintained were the railways under BR. No weeds on any track any where on that branch!
@lewis724 жыл бұрын
I think that that was required to help prevent rail-side fires from the steam trains. Now that risk is gone, they don't spend so much time &. money clearing the line from growth.
@locosandlogos9 жыл бұрын
Great film... the signal box is Antingham Road, which is at North Walsham on the Norwich to Cromer/Sheringham line. Not sure of the station where the trains decoupled... but I am hazarding a guess that it could have been Westerfield on the East Suffolk line branching off to Felixstowe.
@JimTLonW69 жыл бұрын
Iwanttobe Asecret Antingham Road was at the junction between the spur from the M&GNJR line and the North Walsham - Mundesley line, the token was exchanged there. I used to stay at my Great Grandmother's House nearby, and used to wonder why there were so many signals! Workings over the M&GNJR spur were not very common, looking back over, er, about 60 years the occasional loco used to work out to the box from the N. Walsham direction, and my guess is that these would have been freight transfers between the two N. Walsham stations. The factory like building at about 15:00 is the N. Walsham Steam Laundry, reached from 'Laundry Loike' which ran parallel to the railway at this point.
@CullenRick8 жыл бұрын
Decoupling scenes at County School.
@engineslovetostartmatthew4 жыл бұрын
loved it thank you i have an interest in trains feel free to have a look my way thank you
@derrickgreen90204 жыл бұрын
Is that the actor Roger Allam giving the commentary, pretending it’s the period instructor??🤔He has the perfect voice and tone for it!
@mikewings4 жыл бұрын
Ioi
@abloogywoogywoo6 жыл бұрын
A LOT of work just to couple two multiple units together!
@averyaveragetrain2334 жыл бұрын
Well in comparison to steam engines you then dont need 2 drivers for one train so it is a Direct upgrade to the old way
@JimTLonW69 жыл бұрын
Great film, interested to see shots of Antingham Road box in North Walsham on the Mundesley line.
@coloradostrong2 жыл бұрын
Also you can see as the married widow drowned, the propane tank sang to the porpoise. When the helicopter proposed lunch, the propeller saw the midnight daylight yesterday at you. Laughingly, the robin gasped, while moonbeams ate marshmallows inside the deer. Aware of pencils, aroma heard floor tiles selling whales. Branded as lost is the umbrella, as it elopes at tires. Wherein the thesis seams chicken openly, it only missed the elevator by rainfall. Quietly, fires argue as to when the crow sounds popcorn afternoon today. Heavy borrows irrigate crime with ice cream whelps instead of Krylon drips.
@windows7rocks111 жыл бұрын
yes they did. At this point automatic coupling systems that included the air systems and control systems had not been invented. Plus it was the standard at the time for the railways so in order to ensure interoperability the standard was stuck with for DMUs. Now there is no standard coupling between DMU classes on the British railway system.
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth38197 жыл бұрын
windows7rocks1 there is, classes 142 to 144 can operate with classes 150, 153, 155, 156 and 158; these classes have been seen together with each other. Post these units only some of them can operate together, such as the classes 165 and 166. Classes 153 and 170 can also work together, so the class 170 might be able to operate with classes 142 to 158; but I've not seen any evidence of this.
@joshuaritchie38363 жыл бұрын
There is the coupling is chain style but this is only emergency use and can not be used above 5m.p.h in use. The was already an automatic coupling it was in use on London transport since the standard stock build between 1921 and 1934.
@hugebartlett18844 жыл бұрын
How far up the "food chain" is the Shunter? I wonder how many times he cracked his head on a buffer till he learned to duck!
@netking664 жыл бұрын
Probably a pre-requisite job before being a guard, signaller, etc.
@Quasihamster4 жыл бұрын
"The train must not proceed before it is signalled onto the single line." Really? These red green shiny wingy things aren't just for decoration and making the railway look more, railway-y? Mond bliwn! :)
@ylwpyro95499 жыл бұрын
Ah, the old Metro-Cammells. I thought that they looked strange, for some reason.
@mr.saltymelons7565 жыл бұрын
YLW Pyro they kinda did, they had some big foreheads...
@finndahuman574 жыл бұрын
Mr. SaltyMelons no thats the Derby Lightweights
@thomasreed87104 жыл бұрын
Leave it to the Britsto make a complicated project out of something. In the US we have the knuckle coupler. Its just bang together, one hose and away we go. Nobody has to get between the cars and get squished.
@roobear783 жыл бұрын
em,this was the 1950s buddy modern british trains use tightlock,dellner and other couplers today and have done for a long time so yes we also use "knuckle" or janney type couplers for decades now!
@lewis724 жыл бұрын
16:40 Where's this ? Seems like an impressive crossing of two railways.
@lewis724 жыл бұрын
Harford Viaduct, Norwich ?
@AndreiTupolev4 жыл бұрын
13:45 How did the signalman hand the staff to the driver and then go back to pull the signal off it he stayed there chatting to the driver? In practice the signal was nearly always pulled off before the signalman went down to hand the staff to the driver.
@finndahuman574 жыл бұрын
I am not sure if you have heard of the concept of “jump cuts”
@AndreiTupolev4 жыл бұрын
@@finndahuman57 so you're thinking he handed the token to the driver, went back to pull the signal off, then went back to chat to the driver? That sounds like a lot of unnecessary trudging up & down
@ezreenezkandar62874 жыл бұрын
There might be another signalman
@AJNUNNEY12 жыл бұрын
@colliecandle DONT KNOW WHO SAID?BUT WHO WANTS TO DRIVE A DIESLE UNIT?
@TheAdrew196711 жыл бұрын
Squeeze em up driv "no brake test when coupled togeather
@martinsach709311 жыл бұрын
The plural of "1950" is "1950s" not "1950's" which indicates posession not a plural
@pleindespoir4 жыл бұрын
Nowadays a common mistake nobody cares about - except some "gammar- NAZIS" ;) no-fun-fact: 2nd-language-speakers are correcting the native speakers
@robertvanauker327511 жыл бұрын
??? how do the vacuum brakes function on the DMU's ?
@neildahlgaard-sigsworth38197 жыл бұрын
Robert van auker in the same way as on diesel and electric locomotives - an exhauster creates the vacuum.
@finndahuman574 жыл бұрын
Take air brakes and flip it
@pleindespoir4 жыл бұрын
13:46 What's the use of this piece of metal ? It looks heavy and useless.
@herzglass4 жыл бұрын
It's a token. They were used to prevent multiple cars on a single section of track, especially where only a single line was available, to avoid collisions. These were plugged into or pulled out of token instruments. Electrically connected from signal to signal box these would always turn signals to stop from one side if a token on the opposite side was removed so always only one train was signalled to enter a section. A history of collisions showed these were necessary and useful, yet sometimes bulky. For further reference see Wikipedia:Token (railway signalling)
@leeconnolly53394 жыл бұрын
what diesel locomotive is this
@leeconnolly53394 жыл бұрын
im asking a question
@muttley88184 жыл бұрын
@@leeconnolly5339 Class 114 I think. Could be wrong. There were a few 1st Generation DMU's and some had more differences than others. By the way, just a quick note. These aren't considered to be 'locomotives'. These are Diesel Multiple Units. British locomotives would be like any of the steam locos. Diesel locos would be for example a Class 43 HST or a Class 37. Basically, units that have a separate driving unit and has to couple on to passenger carriages to form a train. DMU's are generally always kept coupled together.
@AJNUNNEY12 жыл бұрын
Iam sorry that you are offended, but the comments made were idle banter between friends.illiterate if thats the case this message has been sent by the fairies!! I was a railway worker in those far off days and I think people look at those days through rose tinted glasses.
@coloradostrong2 жыл бұрын
You never worked on a railway in your life. You were a bathroom janitor since the day they kicked you out of 7th grade.
@AJNUNNEY2 жыл бұрын
@@coloradostrong Did not have 7th grade in UK all those years ago.
@StormTiberius11 жыл бұрын
The operator is like **** this thing, notice the finger at 6:16 :p