Steel Wheel, Steel Rail LT&S

Produced for the London Tilbury & Southend sector of Network SouthEast, this film is one of a series which looks at the essential advantages of energy saving driving techniques. Run time: 18 mins.

[@jess.hawkins]

It's Paul! Whenever a vintage or not-so-vintage train video I watch, Paul (or the disembodied voice of his senior former colleague, David) is never far!

[@Se7en20082008]

Yes, its Paul again, Teaching us about dangerations and riskations to drive trains avoiding the spisks!

[@TheArkamedBat]

You'll be going nowhere!

[@sacleocheaterz]

Nice little science lesson in the main principles of energy conversion, and how it can neither be created nor destroyed. Interesting to see what the trains were like in my home town thirty years ago.

[@ReachForTheSky]

Passengers opening the doors themselves at 30mph, imagine that happening today!

[@HDTransport]

They’d open them when still travelling at 100mph

[@dronespace]

It'd be unthinkable these days

[@MannyAntipov]

@@milkandduckrailway323 to be honest, i'd rather be delayed 20 seconds trying to open a slam door than to be dragged under the train if opened it too early and too fast

[@milkandduckrailway323]

It's been a few years. I find it fascinating how things have changed so quickly. I will rephrase my comment a bit here: It's a matter of culture I suppose. Some countries still have a lot of personal responsibility - however the UK has moved away from this. I suppose in general it is for the better, but can sometimes be frustrating (especially when it *feels* inconsistent - e.g. wasn't that long ago, other places do things differently - on that point: The *annoying* part is seeing how fast door release can be done on a few lines e.g. majority of tube lines (although even now with the TBTC/CBTC the tube doors slowing down. The Victoria line is the best - new system but still fast, still even possible to pre-door slightly. Of course, Bakerloo, oldest also allows it with the old door enable system). This *juxtaposition* is probably what causes the annoyance - waiting on a 350 for the guard to do his thing. The cross city in Birmingham does well with the green line on the platform for fast release. On my first line, I still partially stand that part of me wishes I was born earlier, but part of me wonders if I would even be interested in trains or be where I am today. Who knows. We will never know. Since my initial comment, more mark 3 slam doors have now gone from the mainline. I look to enjoy what we have left - e.g. class 323s that have openable hopper windows - won't be long until they will move out of Birmingham.

[@Scangull]

I think there are a couple of points here: first, that steel wheels on steel rails produce far less rolling resistance than rubber tyres on concrete or tarmac. Second, producing electricity in power stations and feeding it to trains is far more efficient than producing the electricity on the train using a diesel engine. Both count as electric traction but getting rid of the onboard diesel engine is what matters.

[@B_-.-]

"the consumption of energy, in any form, leads to the exhaustion of the worlds precious, and all too exhaustable, natural resources. We also produce pollution, posioning the land, the water, even the air we breathe" - aged like a fine wine

[@kgroveringer03]

Literally tho!!! They knew about climate change even as far back as the 1980s, and yet here we are! 😭😭😭

[@harrisongrant8558]

17:19 I'm pretty sure that's David M. Doré, who produced this film and was at one point the owner of SPA Films (he also narrated a lot of these films). It certainly looks like him anyways.

[@COIcultist]

The opening about trains carrying 5,000 Tonnes of freight sounds a bit disingenuous. Yes they might carry that perhaps more but in the UK? OK I'm going back to the 1980s, but I was involved in loading Merry Go Round (MGR) trains from collieries to power stations. Now we did have a big increase in weight. Initially we were forming 30 waggon trains but just before I won my payout in the blessed Margaret Hilda's lottery (Got made redundant) We had upped the trains to 45 waggons. Now while a bit rusty on waggon maximum weights and train average weights I think we are still talking less than 1/3rd of that 5,000 Tonnes. Do we ever pull anything close to 5,000T in the UK?

[@CosgroveNotts]

Trains I go on are usually chasing the clock Leeds to Manchester

[@dusktilldawny666]

I sometimes travel from my home in South Africa to Hebden bridge. It's a 14 hour journey, and the worst part of it is the trans pennine railway. It's truly abysmal...

[@Sam-bz1hr]

@@dusktilldawny666 Bradford to hebden then?

[@dusktilldawny666]

@@Sam-bz1hr Ah, the seminal part of my life - the Bradford museum of film and photography.... many a happy day spent bunking off school there... but the trip.... well, it was actually pretty cool, as I had one of those cards for a quid (what the hell was it called? A Pound saver?) But it was certainly cheaper to travel in Yorkshire than cross the border... No passport required...

[@andrewmulholland6834]

How close together are those signal sections at 6:30

[@Comm_xx_]

Should see the ones on the underground in Sydney, Australia. If you’re doing track speed on the Eastern Suburbs line and encounter anything other than a full clear, hold on I’m slamming on the brakes

[@marcus2944]

​@@Comm_xx_ Yep, been really close to hitting the train stops even with 7 notch of brakes and the wheelslip light flashing away...

[@Juniper458]

Is Paul Tyreman actually a driver or is that a projector with a fake cab? :P

[@StuAnderson90]

He is actually driving. Although he had to stop doing it after some drivers complained

[@steved8193]

I think you know the answer to that!

[@PottersVideos2]

@@StuAnderson90 Why? He was a qualified driver at the time wasn't he?

[@StuAnderson90]

@@PottersVideos2 hi sorry for the late response.. I am not unsure of the answer however he is a actor and BR did allow him to drive trains however making a guess it would be drivers moaned he wasn't actually qualified as a train driver but he would of received instructions on how to drive the train. Because he has been in so many videos from BR right up to date as such he has intimate knowledge of the railway as that's been his sole employer for about 30 odd years now.. i hope that answers your questions

[@sameyers2670]

When was this filmed?

[@QT480uk]

1992

[@droge192]

@@QT480uk - Bloody hell, looks more like 1982!

[@videonut1988]

@@droge192, NSE (now Southeastern) didn’t start until ‘86!

[@geoffreylee5199]

Tiny signs, bad for winter time.

[@limeflake4192]

oof those signs are placed like a needle in hay

[@kellyashfordtrains2642]

Electrification on railways spoils our view of good photography. It should be removed from all electrified lines. Diesel engine fumes are polluting our atmosphere badly and need to be gotten rid of then and there. Electric traction has got its effect standards wrong. If you want to give passengers a pollution free train ride, steam engines are the effective answer. They shower us with smoke, soot and steam, which is far more appealing and atmosphere friendly. Get rid of diesel and electric traction. Steam has the power to pull us along in greater comfort. If you don't believe me, look at the steam engine train specials still running on the main line network to this day. They are more efficient at keeping to time, and if they break down, gently coaxing them to move will get them going again. Electric and diesel traction won't ever have the same result. Trust me, steam engines are better than diesel and electric trains any day.

[@QT480uk]

@Kelly Ashford How the hell are steam trains more efficient? Yes diesel trains produce shit loads of CO2 emissions but steam trains still produce a lot of burning chemicals and pollute the surrounding area. Electric trains are pure clean and are the most efficient and safe!! Why the hell does electrification spoil the views. Why is the view important! It's the 'sounds' that are more important, the view means nothing!

[@fetchstixRHD]

Nice bait there, well played 😂

[@hugebartlett1884]

I do tend to agree,the proliferation of power lines everywhere is in itself a kind of pollution. Near terminals they are downright ugly. And they are not popular with helicopter pilots either,who have to be extraordinarily careful now, avoiding power lines,which are springing up everywhere, especially in the countryside and open spaces.

[@dglcomputers1498]

Firstly NR buy all their power form Nuclear sources, whilst that does not necessarily mean that's where the power is coming from but that is what they buy. Plus ask any normal passenger from the days of steam and they will not want them back, they made you dirty, you could get smuts in your eyes, and as for the driver/support staff, a diesel/electric train is a world away. No dirty firebox to clean out, no coal to shovel plus you get a nice seat in the cab out away from the wind and the rain. Lastly a steam train takes hours to get ready from cold, a diesel/electric takes minutes.

[@victorliu1240]

nice b8 m8, I r8 8/8 seems legit

[@Pugragger]

Jesus, is paul a driver or is he an actor? or a train manager?

[@MannyAntipov]

can't be a driver, he'll be going nowhere!

[@Pugragger]

@@MannyAntipov 😂

[@seeitsayitdoggo]

16:30 isn't that chasing aspects? Naughty Naughty.

[@StewFisher]

hmm typical BMW driver!! lol

[@mikehebdentrains]

Buffet car on the LT&S hahahaha ! Maybe it was an excursion ... Good to be reminded of the slam-doors being thrown open way too early - all that was missing was the athletic types who then felt able to throw themselves out and hit the platform running ... Crazy times.

[@FredFuchs77]

Paul Tyreman!

[@Transportationspotting]

When was this originally produced?

[@onlinefriend3889]

1992

[@harryfaber]

Great stuff!