Addressing the issue of miracles asserted in other religions. #FrankTurek #Miracles #Religions
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@Ace685984 жыл бұрын
"The church becomes all about me and what God can give me, then that's not Christianity" wow, that truth hits
@kim62344 жыл бұрын
Sometimes those people are called babes in Christ, and after so long if you stay a babe for so long and don't produce any fruit God will cut you off.
@kim62344 жыл бұрын
@Miko Chu babes are not always quiet, What do babes do? Cry and get emotional, they get offended and complain, still in sin. In 1 Peter 2:1-2 God is saying to put off sin as newborn babes. Revelation 3:15-16 says what will happen if you don't. Also how can they be unbelievers if they are believing what God can do for them? (Going back on your first comment)
@kim62344 жыл бұрын
@Miko Chu I trust in God not man. Give me proof through his word. If u can't back up your argument with scripture, then it's just an opinion.
@kim62344 жыл бұрын
@Miko Chu 😳
@ianntmy4 жыл бұрын
Miko Chu Scripture is the Word of God though
@quincycole99745 жыл бұрын
I was asked that once. I brought up pharoah's magicians when Moses threw his staff down and it turned into a snake. The magicians threw their staffs down and they also turned into snakes. Ending with Moses's snakes devouring the other magicians. In other words other religions can counterfeit signs and miracles but they are nothing compared to our God.
@timeshark87275 жыл бұрын
It was more like Moses was saying that he had a bigger snake. Almost like their gods were just weaker than his. A bit of a snake measuring contest.
@quincycole99745 жыл бұрын
@@timeshark8727 That's one way of looking at it. But when you have questions or statements made that other religions have miracles so they have to be real. Even if its false If you can provide some type of evidence people will believe. But when you explain how the evidence is counterfeit that helps to woke up those who were deceived by lies.
@Shamsi4194 жыл бұрын
I saw that Cain. It's in Birmingham museum.
@quincycole99744 жыл бұрын
@@Shamsi419 authentic?
@Shamsi4194 жыл бұрын
Quincy Cole well it didn’t do any miracles lol but it looks legit. It’s a small staff covered in Hebrew writing
@Nerosii6 жыл бұрын
God is greater than religion
@Racquetman84485 жыл бұрын
What God?
@malorie85575 жыл бұрын
@@Racquetman8448 THEE God. The same God of Judaism, Christanity and Islam.
@LoneCrusader5 жыл бұрын
Malorie not Islam. Islam is one of the biggest perverse things to ever exist
@malorie85575 жыл бұрын
@@LoneCrusader Christanity and Judiasm have also been perversed. And I don't follow the religion Islam or Judaism but they certainly all believe in the same God. Man just perversed the text. Only true word is through Jesus Christ.
@cnault32445 жыл бұрын
"God is greater than religion" Which god or goddess do you mean?
@caitlinwagner1026 жыл бұрын
I’m addicted to these videos. Frank Turek is an awesome God fearing man and I love watching these. It answers a lot of questions I have and it helps me in my walk with Christ along with the Bible and prayer. Knowing why I believe what I believe is my struggle but these help me.
@timothywilliams40893 жыл бұрын
God fearing, why fear the non existent?
@ntsokolomemani38743 жыл бұрын
@@timothywilliams4089 more especially in this particular video he is just talking gubbish. Theists just wanna believe they really don't care about the truth
@JESUSCHRIST-jw3tb3 жыл бұрын
Dear atheist, Do you believe in the scientific impossibility that everything came out of nothing..?
@Jambuc8293 жыл бұрын
@@JESUSCHRIST-jw3tb That’s a nice straw man you got there but who said something came from nothing?
@JESUSCHRIST-jw3tb3 жыл бұрын
Did everything came from something? From where did that starting something came from? What was before the big bang? Why should big bang occur? What is the purpose of universe? Anything that has evidence and is subject able to experimentation & verification is Science. Does big bang qualify these Scientific variables? When there is a building there must be a builder. Building cannot build themselves. Building alone is the proof of the builder. When there is a painting there must be a painter. When there is creation, there must be a CREATOR. Creation is the proof of GOD. "The heavens declare the glory of GOD and the firmament sheweth HIS handywork" (Psalm 19:1) 💐
@Yahwill76 жыл бұрын
“Maintain spirituality without the moral accountability” BINGO!! I feel like thats what most people want...they don’t like truth
@g1st2336 жыл бұрын
JAViLL exactly! Blaise Pascal once said, "People almost invariably arrive at their beliefs not on the basis of proof but on the basis of what they find attractive. People know instinctively that If Christianity is true they will lose control, and they will not be able to live anyway they wish. Therefore, they despise it and don't want it to be true, yet fear that it may be true."
@jasonr63426 жыл бұрын
G 1st yeah sorry but no
@Yahwill76 жыл бұрын
G 1st you may be right about some folks
@dukelmg16 жыл бұрын
JAViLL Christianity has a justice system that has nothing to do with moral accountability, stemming from a God that has no moral accountability.
@myopenmind5276 жыл бұрын
What truth? I find a lot of people on these channels have no clue what is true.can you enlighten me?
@SonOfTheLord5 жыл бұрын
Matthew 24:24 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
@ElGatoVato7685 жыл бұрын
Convenient, huh?
@monamuller89695 жыл бұрын
@@ElGatoVato768 You know the greatest miracle was the resurrection. If some false prophets talk about the future but dies in the end. What does it matter? I don´t know if you are an atheist a muslim or a buddhist or somthing else. You are here. You want to know the truth. Perhaps you think you already found the truth. That there is no god. In Jeremiah 29:13 "it is said: You will seek me and find me when you search for me with all your heart." Perhaps you think, no I don´t want to. But you have literally nothing to lose. And I just want to know someting. Let´s assume Jesus is the son of god, would you follow him. Or would you deny him even if you would know it´s true?
@ElGatoVato7685 жыл бұрын
@@monamuller8969 i would have a lenghty discussion with him before thinking of following him
@monamuller89695 жыл бұрын
@@ElGatoVato768 That´s a honest reply. :) I mean I believe if you seek the truth with your heart you will find it. And if you want to discuss with Jesus. You could actually do that. It sounds crazy but it works through prayer (talking to Jesus) and bible reading. It´s actually so simple. Instead of never trying and never really knowing if it was actually true, just try it. I mean, it´s clearly your choice if you want to or not. :)
@Lea-ep1bi5 жыл бұрын
Let's forget the other hundred lines that completely contradict that.
@swiftbear4 жыл бұрын
So many of these questions start with "I'm asking for a friend" lol
@skellingtonmeteoryballoon3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@victordali24043 жыл бұрын
Better than not asking at all... seekers are getting answers either way...
@sandomingue2 жыл бұрын
Has the same energy as “They’re in another school” 😂
@memyselfandi45816 ай бұрын
@@victordali2404they mean it's usually them that wants to know but too afraid to say it's them they're asking for.
@rowdytriesstuff91736 жыл бұрын
The real miracle is just life, the fact that life exists here is so amazing yet people can't see that. If people could see this then every day would be a gift.
@k27ism4 жыл бұрын
And when Jesus said he is the way the truth and the life then we have to appreciate that too.
@adarwinterdror72454 жыл бұрын
Its not a miracle. Its chemistry. The more you learn biology and chemistry the less it seems miraculous. But its still amazing. Not everything thats amazing needs a god. Just watch "magic for humans" on netflix :D
@scruffmcgruffthecrimedawg56614 жыл бұрын
@@adarwinterdror7245 life is still a miracle. What other planet has it been found on?
@adarwinterdror72454 жыл бұрын
@@scruffmcgruffthecrimedawg5661 i dont know. Astronauts havent been to more than one moon and one other planet. Have YOU been to other planets? No? Than you dont know either. But i can tell you this: There are less than 10 planets in the only solar system we know for a fact that has a planet with life in it, so so far we have at least 10% chance for life on planets in this solar system. There are billions of billions of solar systems and way more planets than that. Even if it wasnt 10% but only 0.1% for planets with life, those are still really really good odds to have life in hundreds of thousands of other planets.
@unravelsoul4 жыл бұрын
@@adarwinterdror7245 I don't think science should be used for disproving God. Its simply a way for humans to comprehend the world around them but we can't comprehend everything in this world.
@ghostwarrior03298 ай бұрын
This guy is quick to scrutinizes other people's beliefs like it's the most obvious thing to do. Yet accepts his own as if there's no possible way he could be wrong. "what do you do with the miracles that other faiths claim?" "I think you have to evaluate them on a case-by-case basis. And when you do they pale in comparison to Christianity" Yeah okay buddy. He totally did that to Christianity to the point were he can confidential say that on stage, classic apologetics. A lot of other religions are not well known enough to be able to just lump them in that pile and stamp them as not having miracles. Most would just fad from memory when only a couple people know about it. To those 15 thousand people that liked, this my heart goes out to you, you poor poor misguided people
@tookie36Ай бұрын
Right??? So many miracles in other faiths with 1st hand accounts which is more evidence than Christianity. Some being performed today or very recently compared to Christianity and he just ignores them all. Christians are the biggest barrier to Christ unfortunately
@EricSmyth2Christ6 жыл бұрын
Matthew 24;24 - "False prophets and false christs shall arise and perform signs and wonders and will deceive, if it were possible, even the elect."
@uscg13816 жыл бұрын
Eric Smyth This verse was included in the story to keep you in line and to keep you from understanding reality.
@ruelprakash76966 жыл бұрын
Very True.
@tombrooks51665 жыл бұрын
@Son Of Morning Deceived / you are also a man being deceived by lying spirits ...the truth will set you free ...Ave Satana! time is limited and his destination is damnation the abyss where hell fire is awaiting for his eternal soul and others that choose to follow him and his wickedness ! One way the cross of Christ / through his blood is forgiveness of sin leading to salvation...
@renchyxii29254 жыл бұрын
@@uscg1381 you could say that, but why then would we need to understand reality if we have no point of reference? Still begs the question... you wouldnt need to understand reality if there really is no God.
@mbarnabeus3 жыл бұрын
This trinitarian speaker made so many lies about my religion Islam in just one sentence Lol There are so many miracles stated in The Qur'an like the entire quranic surah called Al Miraaj speaking how God miraclously took his prophet up to heavens then to Al Aqsa (Jerusalem) then back home (arab peninsulah) all in 1 day (at that time such a fast travel was impossible in human mind let alone making a tour of seven heavens & going to an other country soo distant, so many arab pagans falsely accused him of being a crazy a liar), like when God sent Angels to fight with muslims while they were largely out numbred & about to get exterminated, When arab pagans asked Prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him for a visible miracle= sign=Eya so God allowed the moon to split & get back in it's initial state (british empire recorded that indian historians recorded a sighting of moon split in half during that same periode), ..the Qur'an it self every verse is called eya=sign = miracle, & infact it contain so many miracles linguistic, scientific..& the list goes on. He lied also about the debut of hadith recording.
@8studio3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bringing this out ... 'when the church becoming...about me and what God can give me... that is not Christianity'. Good reminder. Thank you.
@ontariolacus4 жыл бұрын
So it is so simple! Christian miracles don't require any evidence. For any other miracle evidence is required.
@thewrongshoes4 жыл бұрын
So basically - if a Christian sees a miracle it is true- don’t question how the the “miracle” could have happened naturally; if someone from another religion has a miracle question it a little and then dismiss it
@chiragrulze4 жыл бұрын
Satan can also do miracles, seen throughout the bible (2 Corinthian 11:14). I have done many supernatural miracles. Is the miracle selfless? If not, it is from satan. For example, I could go and lay hands on the sick and they would heal in Jesus's name, but could never heal myself. All glory to Jesus. Selfless miracles = Godly miracles. Selfish miracles = satanic miracles
@Ian-dn6ld4 жыл бұрын
I hope you still see this. Idk about other denominations, but the Roman Catholic Church actually tries to disprove the miracle as having naturally occurred first. Each incident officially recognized by the Church goes under scrutiny from outside non-religious institutions or universities. Sometimes psychological examinations are done. In the case of stigmati for example, or people where bloody holes appear in the hands and feed (usually someone of deep faith), the person is kept under watchful eye to make sure they’re not self-harming or keeping the holes from healing up. In Lourdes,France where Mary appeared to a 14yr old girl a number of times back in 1858, though around 7000 healed cases have been claimed from those who have made the pilgrimage to the spot and have touched the waters that sprung up from where the encounters occurred after Mary directed her to drink from the muddy waters “meant for sinners,” (that’s an event you might find intriguing), only 70 have been confirmed as true bonafide unexplainable miracles. Many of the earlier healings lack the correct documentation for scientific review which means more could, but as of now, 70 is the official number of cases scrutinized, unexplainable, and sudden cures of things incurable.
@atharv-gautam4 жыл бұрын
@@chiragrulze True! Satan tries to copy everything God has done. That's the devil's trick. That's how the world stands deceived and seperated from the True God our Lord Jesus Christ. Watch John Ramirez's interviews on KZbin, he was the 'General of Satan' as he explains himself. The devil knows every word of the Bible.
@anthonybolton27174 жыл бұрын
@@atharv-gautam what absolute BS
@gitudegefa15124 жыл бұрын
ANTHONY BOLTON Thats in the the bible. The Devil tries to copy Christ
@ghostwryteranonymous49103 жыл бұрын
When he accuses people who believe in different faiths of avoiding accountability, he's actually projecting his own shadow onto them. Because Christianity is all about dodging accountability; Jesus died for your sins, and you can avoid accountability and consequence if you believe in Him obey the Bible's commandments. But if you sin afterwards, don't worry, he'll forgive you of those sins, too. Just be sure that you feel really bad about yourself, and perceive yourself as a worthless dog that needs soul saving.
@blackinpublic41933 жыл бұрын
I rebuke you in the name of JESUS
@ghostwryteranonymous49103 жыл бұрын
@@blackinpublic4193 You rebuke me? So, which part about what I wrote is not true? "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." "If you confess with your mouth 'Jesus is Lord' and believe God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." "But God loved us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." "just as through one man's sin all die, so also through one man's obedience all are made righteous." "For by grace you are saved through faith, and not of works, lest any man should boast." Not exactly sure what you're rebuking. Christianity is clearly a "get out of jail free" card.
@bennitok55293 жыл бұрын
@@ghostwryteranonymous4910 "Christianity is clearly a "get out of jail free" card." you hit the head on the nail
@vladd4153 жыл бұрын
Other religions: "Miracle X happened". Frank Turek: "Do you have any evidence that happened?" Do you, Frank? Do you? The inability of some religious fanatics to reflect on their ideas and actions, is incredible.
@thomasaskew19855 жыл бұрын
When you apply the distain for other religions to your own, you will understand the atheist perspective.
@chrissonofpear13845 жыл бұрын
I am fairly impressed by some Buddhist claims, at least. For Christian ones, I try to bear some examples in mind - as well as the fact multiple denominations claim competing ones.
@DL-rl9bd5 жыл бұрын
Thomas Askew “Amen”, brother.
@thomasaskew19855 жыл бұрын
@@DL-rl9bd Thank you, Zeus. You are indeed divine. LMFAO
@jimmykashung4 жыл бұрын
Well, other religions also perform miracles and signs but the source of it's power is what makes the difference.
@BearFruit904 жыл бұрын
I hope you are not implying that their ‘source of power’ is satan.
@w.84244 жыл бұрын
@@BearFruit90 He has nothing to imply
@jaydenbecker27574 жыл бұрын
@@BearFruit90 Why would he be implying that? There are 1000s of religions that don't acknowledge Satan's existence at all.
@PhillipCummingsUSA4 жыл бұрын
@@jaydenbecker2757 Does that mean something has to be acknowledged to be true?
@ronkebarber62384 жыл бұрын
And also the eternal consequences of its results.
@fabbrofamily70386 күн бұрын
so very good ! bless youministry and your herat frank turek and all who desire God's truth! Amen.
@topfueljunkie1006 жыл бұрын
An excellent point which I wish Frank would have brought up (and I know he already knows this) and one that I think answers the doubts from the skeptic even better is that we can sidestep the entire question of "what about the miracles of other religions?" by simply pointing out the exclusivity inherent in the Christian religion. Jesus Christ claims to be the ONLY WAY TO GOD and, in fact, ONE WITH that same God, not to mention that he claims to alone be "the truth and the life" (John 14:6) So he claims to be God himself and the ONLY God there is. So right there, even if we have miraculous supernatural things truly occurring in other religions, it stands to reason, that if Christ's claims are true (proven thru various means such as the resurrection, etc), then that automatically excludes ALL OTHER religions from offering anyone any hope of some sort of pleasant afterlife, meeting God, going to heaven, being true themselves in offering a different God, etc So it does not matter whether the skeptic of Christianity can prove miraculous things occurring in other religions, so long as the Christian claims concerning Christ remains true and haven't been aptly defeated by the skeptic, then it follows that all other religions are false except for Christianity. As a side note, from a Christian perspective, there could indeed seem to be miracles occurring in other religions with no natural explanation. This could simply be the work of demonic forces as we know from scripture that they do such fake miracles to deceive others. So we needn't automatically assume we have to DISprove miracles of other religions, because, given my above argument, Christianity would remain the only true religion despite the occurrence of miracles in other religions. This is why I believe the above argument is a stronger one than what Frank offered (certainly no discredit meant to him) because Frank's answer could be problematic if one can prove a miracle(s) as happening in another religion, whereas the above argument is immune to any such attack no matter whether a miracle occurred in another religion or not.
@burnknuckles590611 ай бұрын
Wow miracles happen in your religion are miracles but when it happens in other religions then it's a demonic power. Ehmm you can put any religion there, same excuse. This type of mentality is the reason why people are running away from religions.
@Reeseington3 жыл бұрын
I love that last little bit about the church being the church. That’s something I’ve been talking about for a couple of years now, and finally starting to understand what true Christianity looks like thanks to that.
@vanheath5382 Жыл бұрын
I also had a friend who was Christian but then became Buddhist. He was doing things that he knew he aught not do, and Buddhism was a way to put away a guilty conscience.
@Spriktor7 ай бұрын
never too late to reach out again
@calebhalbrook7883 жыл бұрын
Interesting how Christians will use evidence and skepticism to question other religions and their veracity but won't use it on their own. Also, since when is the "impressiveness" of a supposed supernatural event a measuring stick to tell if something was supernatural or not. Also, and lastly, nice ad hominem attack on the lady's friend at the end who became a Buddhist.
@Jin-dc7gl10 ай бұрын
Christianity has been scrutinized and challenged since its inception and continues to this day It has withstood and overcome them all Atheists have run out of arguments to challenge Christianity.
@Adam-mj5hlКүн бұрын
@@Jin-dc7gl The more intelligent and critical thinker you are, the more you come to realize how poor the evidentiary support for Christianity is. If you think Christianity has “overcome” scrutiny, then you are either intellectually dishonest or don’t understand how to think critically.
@dizmop6 жыл бұрын
What evidence does he have that Christian miracles are more relevant than any other belief systems relationship to miracles. This guy has a really simplistic view of life
@bichitrananda49545 жыл бұрын
The irony of a Christian asking evidence for miracles.
@MeanOldLady5 жыл бұрын
Atheism is just "turtles all the way down" with the multiverse theory that's so popular now.
@that1guy5915 жыл бұрын
Do some of you’re own research, the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus is pretty immense. All those people who truly believed they saw him after death after some originally doubted and people who hated Christians and killed them with passion changes after claiming that Jesus spoke to him. There are so many amazing things that have only one explanation that even none believers agree upon.
@170221dn5 жыл бұрын
@@that1guy591 "Do some of you’re own research, the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus is pretty immense. All those people who truly believed they saw him after death after some originally doubted and people who hated Christians and killed them with passion changes after claiming that Jesus spoke to him. There are so many amazing things that have only one explanation that even none believers agree upon." Yet it is absent from history books that report known facts....
@that1guy5915 жыл бұрын
170221dn As you have proven people naturally want to deny God and have removed church from state, the Bible literally consist of ancient historical documents detailing experiences and journeys and Gods word. Just because you don’t want to believe what is written doesn’t mean it isn’t true😄 Try studying the documents and history yourself and don’t take schools word as law, they are always finding new things and re-writing history👌
@bichitrananda49545 жыл бұрын
I've gone through the historical documents of NT scholars. The new testaments were originally written in Greek by highly educated Christian's and not eye witnesses. Explain to me how the first forged gospel account of Mark didn't know that Mary was a virgin but the account of Matthew suddenly explains it later. Also there's a vast difference in the Character of Jesus before the crucifixion in Mark's account and The Gospel According to Luke. One speaks of a forsaken character and the other speaks of a character totally aware that God is on his side. The conventional method would be to jam the stories but that's not how the stories are supposed to be read since they were not written at the same but decades later. The so called evidence of the resurrection is only mentioned in the forged gospels which aren't reliable sources and nothing outside the Bible according to the new testament. scholars
@TimpossibleOne5 жыл бұрын
Most people are angry at religions (Christianity especially) because it doesn't allow them to continue to enjoy their favorite sins without guilt.
@610huskymoto5 жыл бұрын
Why do religious people say this? People that don’t believe in a God is because lack of evidence or proof. That it. If someone could produce evidence for a specific God their would be only one God and a mass exodus towards that God. But there isn’t evidence, so all religions are faith based... ironic don’t you think.
@Adam-mj5hlКүн бұрын
And most Christians believe in Christianity because they were born and raised in a Westernized country and were socialized to believe in the dominant religion. If they were born in an Islamic country, they’d be a Muslim.
@majinhiei76 жыл бұрын
The great miracle of atheism: a fine tuned universe that came into being by an explosion created by nothing.
@killermoon6356 жыл бұрын
majinhiei7 thats not what atheists say Also the universe is not fine tuned
@majinhiei76 жыл бұрын
maroom1 this ignorant reply shows you have no idea what you're talking about. Do yourself a favor and research how SCIENTISTS discovered how the universe is fine tuned before you reply again.
@killermoon6356 жыл бұрын
The fact that you think that athiest (or scientist) believe that origin of universe (big bang) is an explosion out of noting only show how ignorant you are. You have no idea what you are talking about. Show me a well known athiest who claims that universe came from explosion out of noting ?! I Big bang is about expansion of the universe from singularity. The singularity itself has all stuff that make up the universe but it was it more dense state. Nobody ever said explosion out of noting, nobody have ever seen anything that come out of noting. And fine tuned argument has been already refuted many times. Do research
@majinhiei76 жыл бұрын
maroom1 yeah I just did and really, atheists believe it's false yet theists don't. Kinda like evolution, atheists and theists in general will never agree on it. Might as well stop now before we go back and forth insulting each other. Funny though, I could have sworn that Richard Dawkins said the universe seems finely tuned.
@Sundaydish16 жыл бұрын
majinhiei7 Your mistake is thinking "finely tuned" means there is some great piano repair man in the sky. The only logical solution is that there are many universes, most of which are not capable of supporting life. The vacuum of space creates something out of nothing all the time. It's probably too much for a religious person to comprehend but pairs of particles are being created and then annihilated (Heisenberg's uncertainty principle). Virtual photons are being created out of nothing and is scientifically proven by the Casimir effect. Choose science, it is a lot more wondrous than just saying "God did it".
@cybirddude Жыл бұрын
As a polytheist, I would like to say that it is possible for multiple different religions to have their own miracles; one of the main flaws of monotheism is that it applies special pleading when it comes to miracles, as they see miracles that occur in their religion as confirming it, but have to come up with all kinds of excuses to explain away the miracles of other religions. Lots of religions of have stories of miracles; Shamanistic religions attribute healing powers to shamans via the spirits, the hurricanes that destroyed the Mongol armies who invaded Japan were attributed as miracles from the kami, the Roman statesman Marcus Terentius Varro theorized that diseases were caused by tiny organisms ala bacteria and viruses, despite the fact that the technology to see and confirm these things hadn't been invented yet, which one could interpret as a miracle from one or more of the Roman gods.
@SparkyKev6 жыл бұрын
Frank, you have an incredible knowledge of physics, science and Christianity. But I think maybe if you studied up on other religious texts, you're debates could be so much more effective. God bless you man, you're doing good work.
@paulrichards68942 жыл бұрын
no he does not....
@daveross77312 жыл бұрын
@@paulrichards6894 what do you mean by that? How did you come to that conclusion? How do you know your conclusions are true?
@paulrichards68942 жыл бұрын
now my theory is frank is an atheist but his public persona says we got here by magic....thats in no way backed up by science..we have a pretty good idea how we got here and its not magic
@Spriktor7 ай бұрын
@@paulrichards6894 yes we got here from nothing exploding into everything, thats magic. God is not magic however
@paulrichards68947 ай бұрын
@@Spriktor 98% of the members of the royal academy of Science are atheists so they don't think its magic
@SuperPopeye905 жыл бұрын
‘Todays Church is all about motivational speech dats not Christianity says it all’ 👍🏿👍🏿😁 super like
@frost18044 жыл бұрын
People chase for the peace of in the physical body more then the spiritual.
@ronkebarber62384 жыл бұрын
The physical body will soon fade away!
@thekolobsociety5 жыл бұрын
The miracle of Mormonism is not the plates themselves, but the message on them. Now that, Frank, is a true miracle.
@TenTonNuke3 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious to me to see Turek be forced to use atheist logic to refute every religion but his own.
@t-ambull92934 жыл бұрын
It's good to hear no political correctness but real biblical talk.
@GraftedOliveBranch4 жыл бұрын
This guy knows his stuff. God bless him.
@schwann145 Жыл бұрын
This guy knows nothing.
@KC-fb8ql10 ай бұрын
Frank has been answering the same questions for years. He’s like a refrigerator salesman selling the same fridge for 20 years. Yeah, he knows his product.
@ghostwarrior03298 ай бұрын
@@KC-fb8ql Ha that's a good one. To many guys like that one
@markdalton39004 жыл бұрын
Mr Turek is awesome! Just found this channel!
@belphemmore38023 жыл бұрын
The biggest issue with cristian apologetics is that any argument against god it is followed by "you steal from god"
@Spriktor7 ай бұрын
objective morality is simply impossible to argue without there being a God. If there is no God then there has to be moral relativity. But we do have strong moral absolutes- its a contradiction.
@JamesBrodski4 жыл бұрын
Amazing content, sir! Thanks for doing this :)
@pollypockets5085 жыл бұрын
Here's a miracle - apparently, Frank Turek is a mind reader who knows the motivations of everyone who isn't a Christian.
@codymoore12484 жыл бұрын
Lol not really. The >implication< was that a Christian became a Buddhist after learning it was more true than christianity. Frank pointed back that the reason was likely because they didnt come to know something they previously didnt. Its just that buddhism fits their agenda more where they can live how they want and justt try to be good to people.
@mattygersh5446 жыл бұрын
Hi frank. I stumble onto you today and after watching a few videos I subscribe God bless you brother may the Lord strengthen your wisdom and may you continue to help interpret Christianity to those who have question "fight the good fight"
@duartepaintinghandymanservices3 жыл бұрын
Every believer should definitely hunger to be a disciple, that's where the real rewards are.
@duartepaintinghandymanservices3 жыл бұрын
@@flanderg123and I guess you don't understand the fact that satan and the fallen angels have already been judged, hell is waiting for them.
@duartepaintinghandymanservices3 жыл бұрын
@@flanderg123 you said even satan believes which makes me think that you don't understand that Christ died for the human race alone, not the fallen angels
@duartepaintinghandymanservices3 жыл бұрын
@@flanderg123 and you say sell everything you have a follow Jesus, that's discipleship, theres many disciples but many of them are not even saved, are you saved?
@duartepaintinghandymanservices3 жыл бұрын
@@flanderg123 logic you say, sure
@duartepaintinghandymanservices3 жыл бұрын
@@flanderg123 good luck with that
@MissesToot4 жыл бұрын
In exodus, didnt Pharaoh's magiciens executed miracles such as turning wooden sticks into snakes ? So miracles in other religions are possible if you believe the bible
@stevennorris95753 жыл бұрын
If my people who are called by My Name, will humble themselves, praying, seeking My Face to turn from their wicked ways. Then I will hear from Heaven and heal their land.
@piesho6 жыл бұрын
"Do you know what the new religion in America is?" Atheism? "The religion of sex" Damn it! That was my second option.
@mbarnabeus3 жыл бұрын
This trinitarian speaker made so many lies about my religion Islam in just one sentence Lol There are so many miracles stated in The Qur'an like the entire quranic surah called "Al Israa" speaking how God miraclously took his prophet up to heavens then to Al Aqsa (Jerusalem) then back home (arab peninsulah) all in 1 day (at that time such a fast travel was impossible in human mind let alone making a tour of seven heavens & going to an other country soo distant, so many arab pagans falsely accused him of being a crazy a liar), like when God sent Angels to fight with muslims while they were largely out numbred & about to get exterminated, When arab pagans asked Prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him for a visible miracle= sign=Eya so God allowed the moon to split & get back in it's initial state (british empire recorded that indian historians recorded a sighting of moon split in half during that same periode), ..the Qur'an it self every verse is called eya=sign = miracle, & infact it contain so many miracles linguistic, scientific..& the list goes on. He lied also about the debut of hadith recording. Now u know which "religion" he is speaking about & is living rent free inside his mind
@astroyt.3 жыл бұрын
@@mbarnabeus Shut up.. You know that your religion is wrong, thtas why ypur copy and pasting everywhere. Your going. To hell if you do not worship Jesus.
@LANDRYPHYNO3 жыл бұрын
@@mbarnabeus muhammad made no miracles in the quran
@mbarnabeus3 жыл бұрын
@@astroyt. lol so if your pastor is caught lying u just say amen & insult the one exposing him with clear cut evidences?! No u shut up your religion is fake & always been based in this type of lies seen here with this guy! It has nothing to do with the real belief of Jesus Christ peace be upon Him; u believe in the gospels of John luke mathew..persons u don't even know what their family names are lol & with zero chain of narration in other words it doesn't even reach the degree of authenticity of a rejected "weak" degree hadith. Who is going to hell? The one who worship other than God The Creator, or the one that believes that God The Immortal (even your o.t. say that) got stripped naked killed by a satanic roman soldier & thus become in the words of paul "a cursed God" in his chapter galatians, then u need to glorify the alleged diocide weapon = cross or else go to hell? The list of blasphemies in your falsified belief go on & on. Not here to waste time debating dumb brainwashed; end of discussion.
@mbarnabeus3 жыл бұрын
@@LANDRYPHYNO hhh did u even read my comment u brainwashed we r in 2021 read my comment & the entire surah named after one of the miracles done by God on his servant & prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him, use google to verify how can u be so blind while u have internet?!
@cnault32445 жыл бұрын
"What About the Miracles of Other Religions?" Since Christianity hasn't proved any of it's miracles actually happened, Christianity is in the same boat as all other religions... none of them have proved any of their miracles have happened.
@mannyman10124 жыл бұрын
Well the fact that other non-biblical texts speak of it, is proof enough. The fact that for some reason these desert dwellers were able to change the entire political and religous authority of Europe and Africa is proof of something.
@pJ005-k9i4 жыл бұрын
We have miracles happening today and do you know why secular sources don't record Jesus miracles? Because if they did record Jesus miracles, they would be affirming who he claimed to be, and also the Babylonian talmud record that he was being accused of sorcery, so to be acused of that means that he must have been doing something supernatural. And this also agrees with the Bible because in Mark is recorded that the Jews were telling people that Jesus did miracles by the power of Satan.
@allynaquino31174 жыл бұрын
The only miracles that happened was when Jesus Christ came. There is prove because that is historical text- The Bible, the Quran, and the Torah all talk about Jesus. Even the Quran doesn't like Jesus, but they still talked abt him & that is true evidence that he exists and that he did these 'miracles'.
@cnault32444 жыл бұрын
@@allynaquino3117 No evidence for any of those miracle has been presented.
@cnault32444 жыл бұрын
@RetroMan You forgot to present any of this evidence.
It's incredibly smug and presumptuous to question the motives of someone you don't know- or even someone you do- because they don't believe the same things you do. Everyone has the right to be presumptuous, but don't assume others won't take notice or that it won't affect what they think of you and your own motives.
@ronkebarber62384 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. But with all thine getting, get understanding. Proverbs chapters 1-8.
@ghostwryteranonymous49103 жыл бұрын
The Christian argument is based on developing straw men: cherry picking points of attack, defaming characters and making arbitrary inferences and claims they cannot prove.
@bepreparedforwhatscoming4975 Жыл бұрын
@@ghostwryteranonymous4910 no. It’s about surfing the truth and nothing else, knowing that people will be offended. Everyone wants to live in world where they won’t be held accountable for their sins. God WILL punish them if they don’t repent!
@schwann145 Жыл бұрын
@@bepreparedforwhatscoming4975 Prove it.
@chandrikawarren6834Ай бұрын
Bingo
@RhythmEmotions3 жыл бұрын
150 years after the fact isn't an eye witness lol.
@RetroGamerTy5 жыл бұрын
3:52 - Whoa!!! She left Christianity for Buddhism because she wanted to continue sinning according to the Bible? What kind of Straw Man fallacy crap is that? We don't know the supposed "sin" or what the person's reason was for their disbelief in Christianity but you make the assumption she left because she wants to sin???? That's a logic jump if ever spoken! And do you know what the Buddhist texts even say? For having the word "examined" in your name, you sure make some crazy fallacious jumps there.
@chrissonofpear13845 жыл бұрын
Perhaps she found their ethics less tautological, too...
@chellejack34804 жыл бұрын
People LOVE to sin.
@teachingtetelestai5 жыл бұрын
Contending for validity of a religion based on whether or not there is supernatural power being displayed is irrelevant. The reason why I say that is because satan can perform miracles as stated by God in the biblical account. Satan can also transform himself into other beings and therefore has the capacity to decieve with both power of the miraculous and visual stimulation. I'm not saying any thing negative about Frank because I love him and think he is brilliant in apologetics. However his claim that other religions do not have valid miracles is false. Which is not to say they are equivalent to Christianity because they are not. I said all of that because our faith in Christ should not be grounded in the miracles He did (sounds sketchy) but our faith should be grounded in trust in His WORDS and His authority, without evidence. Why do I make that claim? I make that claim because Jesus Himself said many things relating to it but my two favorite are these: 1.) Blessed are those who believe in Me even thought they have never SEEN me. (That is a reference to satan's manifestations of power and miracles) 2.) My Sheep hear MY VOICE and will not follow another.(His VOICE and words hold more weight than seeing Him and His miracles.) Now I also think it would help if I clarify that I am a bible believing Christian and I believe in and walk in the power of the Holy Spirit. (Not like average western charismatics) I've seen hundreds of healings while praying with people in grocery stores, bus stops, places of employment and etc, and I believe those amazing miracles have added to my faith, but they are not what my faith is grounded on. I hope I have given a good explanation. Like Frank always shares that God said with His own words that He did the greatest miracle of all, God created the heavens and the earth. Even though I can't see God physically, I believe His words which lead me to see Him spiritually everyday. ❤ Much love 😊
@paulbrocklehurst58735 жыл бұрын
'What evidence do you have for that?' Oh the irony of such a question coming from a Christian!
@heitorfreire31735 жыл бұрын
I know right? Lol
@ForeverFashionGirl215 жыл бұрын
making disciples is something that the church in America forgets about all too much.
@candysswoodberry91706 жыл бұрын
Brother! I admire your biblical and common intelligence. Your middle name must be Solomon because the wisdom is obvious. Thank you for your witness and skill and patience to ask and answer hard questions with the effective and productive knowledge of our Lord, Jesus Christ. Man. That's good stuff! #blessings
@rrjkss39925 жыл бұрын
Candyss Woodberry infact if you’re so proud of god why don’t you throw out all of your cosmetics and go out everyday as you naturally look. The flawless complexion is natural. It’s artificial.
@a.d.c79415 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Jackson ??? Uhm, in your profile pic, it sure does look as if u have on some pretty heavy eye make up. So why come at this lady that way?? Actually why come at her this way period.
@rrjkss39925 жыл бұрын
Fallon Ocean because mif she so proud of how God made her she shouldn't be watering make up.
@a.d.c79415 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Jackson But she didnt mention anything about being “proud how God made her.” She thanked the speaker and commented on his wisdom. Whats your real problem? Whats wrong?
@rrjkss39925 жыл бұрын
Fallon Ocean Frank turek has absolutely no intelligence or wisdom whatsoever. So yes she is saying she proud of the man made sexist abrahamic God because she believes in him.
@PockASqueeno5 жыл бұрын
As a Christian who has studied some other religions, I have to say that Frank has very little understanding of Hinduism.
@PockASqueeno5 жыл бұрын
Johnny Ma'boy Correct. They are two different religions though. Buddhism is nontheistic, while Hinduism is polytheistic.
@varmadatla21475 жыл бұрын
@@PockASqueeno Hinduism is not polytheism. you don't have sufficient knowledge to understand Hinduism
@mochac16414 жыл бұрын
Well said 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 👉🏼We will make disciples and not just believers ❤ 👉🏼 preaching not be just motivational speeches not about me and I and what Jesus can do for me.- this is Not Christianity ❤
@raymondtendau27493 жыл бұрын
2:58 totally misunderstood and wrong definition of Karma.Sadhguru released a whole book on Karma recently.I think Mr Frank needs one.Based his definition of Karma,I'm sorry to say...he is clueless.
@jerrylanglois78923 ай бұрын
He's not clueless, he's a lying book--selling hustler.
@raymondtendau27493 ай бұрын
@@jerrylanglois7892 😆🤣
@aadarshthomasraj50184 жыл бұрын
Ironic that when it comes to other religions Frank asks for evidence XD
@renchyxii29254 жыл бұрын
If a miracle supposes the happening of something supernatural bringing good consequences, you have to agree there is a divine agent who orchestrates it, and that it has a sentient moral goodness behind the miraculous action, if you can't agree with that then it's not a credible miracle.
@romellyarde9074 жыл бұрын
Exactly this is a very manipulative speaker. He can twist easily his words and not hold himself accountable.for the lack of facts. This is toxic as he demonized something similar to what he believes.
@renchyxii29254 жыл бұрын
@@romellyarde907 again, it begs the question to what you define as a miracle. If Buddhism doesn't require a belief in God or any god, they can't call the enlightenment a miracle... to think you can find the ultimate meaning of life within your own self, is lunacy...not a miracle
@romellyarde9074 жыл бұрын
@@renchyxii2925 the things that could separate when one calls something a miracle vs another event can be many times explained. Miracle seekers should investigate the situation more and may unlock the technique to perform such a task and share it with he world. I am sure paramedics brought more people back to life than these biblical saints, making it look normal in many cases.
@kasonrubin27844 жыл бұрын
I mean in the Bible it says that a “true prophet” can be seen by his prophecies.
@Adam-mj5hl4 жыл бұрын
The problem with Turek’s response is that he takes the Bible at face value when it says there were eye-witnesses to the resurrection. Also, I don’t think he ever mentions that we don’t really know who wrote the 4 gospels; also, we don’t have good reason to attribute them to The disciples of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John.
@ffmmain86734 жыл бұрын
People ignore the voice of reason
@Adam-mj5hl4 жыл бұрын
@@ffmmain8673 The irony is that apologists like Turek seemingly are able to apply critical thinking and skepticism when evaluating the supernatural/miracle claims of other religions. But all that goes out the window when they are asked to defend the supernatural/miracle claims of their religion.
@Adam-mj5hl4 жыл бұрын
Younan Yaqoob Wow, let me guess....you think you’re Christian, right? Lol
@JaneDoe-lw6eh Жыл бұрын
If you read the entire Bible all the way through.. you’d know that it is written by one ☝🏾
@Adam-mj5hl Жыл бұрын
@@JaneDoe-lw6eh Written by one what?
@joonnkoh23683 жыл бұрын
Jesus bless everyone 🙏🏽
@shawnstasiak68625 жыл бұрын
“What were Jesus’s miracles? He made lots of food. I can make food in the kitchen with the right materials!” Frank Turek if he weren’t a Christian
@johnboehmer66833 жыл бұрын
While you're at it, make sure to heal lepers, raise the dead, create the entire existence in 6 days, walk right through a furious mob bent on killing you... for starters...
@zekdom3 жыл бұрын
1:50 - Islam, difference between Hadith and Quran 2:12 - Mormonism 2:31 and 3:40 - Buddha and the light. Ask, “What do you mean by that? How did you come to that conclusion?”
@ApexArtistX6 жыл бұрын
The last questions about modern church was gooooood . Motivational talks all about me me me yeah .
@Orthodox_mang3 жыл бұрын
4:16 to 5:56 wow that’s just pure facts sadly that’s how many people are especially most so called conscious people and sage burners and new-agers.
@mileydotter20714 жыл бұрын
So many logical shortcomings. But to be fair, he is evaluating other religions and ideologies in the framework of christianity
@neelzen99755 жыл бұрын
So, basically his argument was that our miracles>other miracles therefore we are right.
@jacobjackson94675 жыл бұрын
Neelzen exactly because our miracles are done in the name of Jesus
@mattjones23756 жыл бұрын
Hey Frank, didn't the questioner say that his followers saw this? Isn't that exact same evidence that you have?
@RealAntek4 жыл бұрын
Except frank didn’t see anything
@ahmetsaidalkur504 жыл бұрын
@@RealAntek exactly, cant trust eye witness accounts unless they are christian
@PhillipCummingsUSA4 жыл бұрын
@@ahmetsaidalkur50 Or there is more evidence than eye witness accounts
@victorbekee45494 жыл бұрын
lol .....christianity is absolved of such levels of scrutiny hehe
@edwardreese9764 жыл бұрын
If you look into the gods and miracles of other religions...I mean REALLY look into them, you will see that their gods and their miracles were of demons. Their miracles would require sacrifices of virgins, babies, people cutting themselves, doing drugs, having sex, being intoxicated for or during their "religious" ceremonies. If you have depictions of their gods, eg: Egyptian, Sumerian, Hindu, etc, they resembled fallen angelic beings taking shape in the form of things or animals that the people worshipped. Early man had high intelligence in things lost to us but we also have intelligence not privily to them. So if an Egyptian feared the crocodile or alligator as some dirty (for whatever reason) the fallen angel would come as a human with a crocodile head. The christian God doesn't require such sacrifices. Only the sacrifice of one's will of self destruction unto the will of life through Christ. That's deity not dirty...the spell check switched it on me.
@crsmith99883 жыл бұрын
I am atheist but I’ve experienced many miracles in my life. So, god must love me.
@tongakhan2303 жыл бұрын
Charles Smith : Satan too does miracles to keep people believing what they are already believing. That is to stop them searching for the truth. Just a thought.
@chuter526 жыл бұрын
I'm a Christian, and I generally like Frank Turek, but he's way off the rails on karma. Believing in karma doesn't require that you don't believe in God. Sow and reap.
@Lea-ep1bi5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't require a god, actually Hinduism has no god, but they still believe in karma. Buddhismus has a "god", but also believes in karma.
@Xials6 жыл бұрын
I was fairly impressed with Frank until I watched him with Christopher Hitchens. I was disappointed to watch him swallowed up by anger and frustration and argue with such emotion. I’m not anything close to an Atheist, on the contrary I strive to live true Christianity. A lot of what this guy says is solid, but beware of what he discounts. Beware of his “logical proofs” because they tend to be utterly besides the point. Faith is the principle from which you find the Power of God. It can be tested with reason and stand up to intellectual scrutiny. About those “Gold Plates” and Mormonism. I’d recommend people look into that a much closer. Frank tries to trivialize them in a fashion similar to someone claiming “I can make bread and catch fish too!” Such an argument when understood in context is absurd. The object is not the miracle. Taking miracles on a case by case basis requires understanding the case. Read the testimonies of the witnesses to the plates. Pray and ask God and receive revelation for yourself. Contrary to what this man says, the canon is not closed. If so there is a great flaw in the scriptures because they say no such thing. YOU can receive revelation and God calls prophets today.
@vegacruz6594 жыл бұрын
@Hineni John3:16 What's the context of that though?
@JadetheGoober4 жыл бұрын
Amen brother you make a great point. Let God do the debating. God bless you in the name of Lord Jesus the Messiah.
@hambam75332 жыл бұрын
hitchens is now a DEAD man to bad for him he now knows the truth cherrio old fellow
@jaredsun42773 жыл бұрын
Whenever Dr. Turek brings up the believer and disciple comparison I understand the wisdom. I am a believer I always have been. But I always struggled to be a disciple. A believer knows but a disciple follows. I am ashamed of myself...
@chessversarius2253 Жыл бұрын
I think that's something not just a few Christians struggle with, myself included of course. Now, 2 years later since you wrote this comment, how are you doing? Has God done something in your life, because I believe that when there is a big enough part of us that wants to follow God, He will make it happen for us. (Hebrews 13:20-21)
@Tt-vb4zn5 жыл бұрын
2:26. That's not the Miracle of Mormonism, far from it. Joseph Smith Claimed to have seen God and Christ together who told him to not join any church at the time.
@galatians-2.203 жыл бұрын
Even though the bible says that if someone actually see's God that they "would surely die" and I feel like Joseph Smith was trying to elevate himself to be at the same level and importance as Moses who did spend time with God on the mountain of Zion where God revealed a small piece of himself to Moses and when Moses would come off the mountain witnesses said he would be glowing a bright white where Gods glory was radiating off of moses from just being in Gods presence and God wasn't even fully revealed only what Moses could comprehend
@NathanicusSmith5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Christian, but I think you're setting people up to be deceived if you say that other religions aren't capable of miracles. What about when Pharaoh's magicians duplicated Moses' miracles in Exodus 7:22 through the use of secret arts? What about in Revelation 13:13 where it says that the 2nd Beast performed great signs and was able to make fire come from heaven? "Because of the signs it was given to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived those who dwell on the earth." The difference is that unlike the Holy Spirit, their miracles are limited and finite, but they're still within the realm of what people would consider "supernatural", which is what gives them the ability to deceive people who think that only Christ is capable of miracles.
@MrAndyGA5 жыл бұрын
That's a really good question and one that I've thought about in depth; until I came to the realisation that the Pharaohs were in fact pagans. They were idol worshipers (think Isis, Horus etc..). Their entire belief system was based on an idol religion; which is in turn based fundamentally on Satanism. So it is not implausible to conclude that some of the "miracles" they performed was the direct result of black magic inspired by Satan himself. Don't forget that Satan is the master deceiver.
@joshwalters31485 жыл бұрын
@@MrAndyGA do u believe magic is real?
@justinkingsley91695 жыл бұрын
does that mean he's deceiving them?
@joshwalters31485 жыл бұрын
@@MrAndyGA are they satanists by your definition or theirs? Does your label apply to them or do they decide who they are? Does magic and witchcraft exist with real effects that can measured physically?
@joshwalters31485 жыл бұрын
@@MrAndyGA if satan is the master deciever then how do you know satan didnt write the bible?
@raymondtendau27493 жыл бұрын
I got enormous respect for Mr Frank. Even though I am not a Christian and don't believe in Christ dying to save people and trinity....etc.
@Spriktor7 ай бұрын
time to challenge those beliefs then ^^
@raymondtendau27497 ай бұрын
@@Spriktor I don't feel the need to. I've grown to understand the world in such a way that, I don't need to understand everything. The world is always one step beyond logic.
@jimbob44845 жыл бұрын
it's amazing that Frank can dismiss the miracles of other religions so easy and even say that the miracle claims of other religions pale in comparison to those reported in the bible. He evidentially hasn't read the much into the Islamic faith because it was said that Mohammed split the moon. I can’t think of a more spectacular miracle claim, yet Frank doesn’t seem to be aware of that one. What is evident is that the standards of evidence are not applied uniformly across the board when there are debates about topics which relate to theism vs theism. Frank may state that every miracle claim should be judged on its own merits, but he has essentially already given a blanket dismissal of the claims of other religions. However, he will always give an impassioned case for the authenticity of the miracle claims in the bible. When you consider his reasons for dismissing the other miracle claims consider the following; The Gospels are based on the conflicting accounts of 4 anonymous Authors written many years after the purported event that revolve around the life of Jesus Christ.
@610huskymoto5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I don’t thank he is trying to prove anything to people that don’t believe in the Bible. I think he is just trying to reassure the people that do. I wonder how much Frank is worth?🤔
@jimbob44845 жыл бұрын
@@610huskymoto That's a fair point. I mentioned the inconsistency in how standards of evidence are applied, but we can also say there is a clear difference in how a theistic hypothesis is proposed when compared to the hypothesis that may be proposed as part of a scientific experiment. When we look a God hypothesis, the presumption is essentially that the proposition is fundamentally true. In arguing the case for the God hypothesis, the fundamental goal is not to provide evidence for this claim but more rather the goal is to try and poke holes in any competing naturalistic explanations. All the evidence that most theists need is in the good book so all that is left is to focus on the competing world view. I think Frank is smart guy and is an engaging speaker. He is confident and well drilled and certainly appears to make a convincing case for people who wouldn't be well versed in the scientific, philosophical and theological topics which underpin these debates. That said, fundamentally much of what Franks says is some variation of a God of the Gaps argument/and or a Red Herring fallacy or its also just not reasonable to draw the conclusions he makes based on the premises he gives. Even if one concedes that the Universe did indeed need a creator there no evidence to suggest that such a creator would be a conscious personal creator that is all knowing, all powerful and benevolent and that is specifically the God he believes in. The cause and effect argument requires special pleading because a major assumption needs to be made that the creator didn’t need a creator themselves and it completely ignores the fact that the laws of physics break down in a singularity so in that sense there is no reason to believe that we can invoke causality in way we do in the universe with defined laws of nature. Added to that we simply don’t know what preceded the Big Bang. Any suggestions to the contrary are conjecture. Fine tuning falls over in several different ways, not least because all it proves is that the Universe wouldn’t have formed if the constants of nature had been any different. It’s still an assumption to claim that the universe must have been created specifically for life because of this apartment fine tuning. Using the same logic, you could also conclude that the Universe was fine tined for black holes because they exist and are abundant throughout the universe. If the constants underpinning the laws of nature were changed in the smallest degrees, then black holes wouldn’t have been possible. Therefore, the Universe was fine tuned for Blackholes!! The logic doesn’t stand up and that’s before we even consider that the Universe is utterly unhospitable towards life. Throughout the entire Universe we only know of one planet that can support life and even then, everything on this planet is trying to kill us. Not to mention that life evolved to suit the conditions on earth and life will only be permitted on Earth for an infinitesimal spec of the life time of the Universe. Arguments in relation to the complexity of life requiring a designer is usually a combination of a God of the Gaps argument, drawing false analogies and completely ignoring evolution by natural selection. I think the morality is probably the weakest of all arguments for a God because it presents a Begging the Question fallacy. A God needs to be proven to exist in order to prove that an objective morality exists and so invoking a moral argument can’t be used as evidence for the existence of God. It is circular reasoning at best. Any arguments over Consciousness, Logic, reality and existence are not much more than Red Herrings to distract from the real argument. Even if science and/or philosophy had nothing useful to say about any of these topics this still wouldn’t be enough of a reason to invoke Divine Creation.
@610huskymoto5 жыл бұрын
jimbob4484 I wish I could write like you. That was good! 👍
@jimbob44845 жыл бұрын
@@610huskymoto I can't really take any credit in fairness I have spent quite a bit of time listening to Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris and lately people like Matt Dillahunty and Alex O' Connor. These debates are not new and many of the points of debate have been discussed and debated for hundreds of years but advances in science, in particular, tend to open up fronts in the conversation. Its very refreshing to see well documented greater thinkers, like the guys I have mentioned, engage on these topics. I have learned a huge amount and thats why I enjoy these debates. What ever position a person takes on this, there is a huge amount to learn if one is open to doing so.
@ElementsUnknown5 жыл бұрын
I haven’t read the the Quran, what was the point of splitting the moon? Who did it help?
@jeffnarum13735 жыл бұрын
The Skepticism is strong in this one. He is 0.00024% away from being an atheist.
@Spriktor7 ай бұрын
you don't have a blind faith, its a plethora of evidence as basis for faith
@estherrosario2511 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Mr. Turek. God bless you
@Racquetman84485 жыл бұрын
Turek speaks of evidence.What evidence does he provide to validate the claims of Christ? Ans....only the writings of Bronze Aged authors ( authors unknown)...nothing tangible, only “ changes of heart,
@robertlewis91325 жыл бұрын
Turek's only trick is that he has the ability to appear smart, he is a slick talker. Snakeoil comes to mind with this wacko.
@The_DirtyBubble3 жыл бұрын
He assumes that the gospels were written by eyewitnesses. They weren’t
@fabianfollowerofchrist52993 жыл бұрын
Historical scholars agree that there was a Jewish teacher that might’ve went by the title “Jesus of Nazareth”.
@The_DirtyBubble3 жыл бұрын
@@fabianfollowerofchrist5299 I agree. But that doesn’t imply that any of the miraculous claims about him are actually true
@fabianfollowerofchrist52993 жыл бұрын
@@The_DirtyBubble well besides the eyewitness testimonies of the gospels , it’s very strange that these random group of “crazy” people would go through persecution, torture, and death to teach others about Jesus. It’s not a coincidence man, even now Christianity is a very persecuted faith. Because it’s the Truth. I’m not sure if you were a former believer or not but i suggest you look into Christianity deeply.
@chrissonofpear13843 жыл бұрын
@@fabianfollowerofchrist5299 Is it the whole truth, however?
@fabianfollowerofchrist52993 жыл бұрын
@@chrissonofpear1384 I believe so but inevitably the choice is yours , for God has given everyone free will to seek him or to go their own way.
@sarah544715 жыл бұрын
I love Frank God has truley blessed him and he is a true disciple of our Lord Jesus Christ.
@locathelli5 жыл бұрын
If it is allowed to ly true your teeth with blessings from your God, then hi is great. At the moment hi is great advertising from atheism, and that's why they visit his channel so much. No wonder 50% of the students in college leave religion. So keep up the God work Frank and don't stop your weekly reports. Every ape out there appreciates it. Also can recommend his performance with Christopher Hitchens one youtube great stuff..
@stevenmanwaring89435 жыл бұрын
Lol a pastor talking about evidence is the funniest thing I've heard all day
@CybermanKing5 жыл бұрын
steven manwaring I don’t think he’s a pastor and I don’t find the humor
@stevenmanwaring89435 жыл бұрын
@@CybermanKing the humor is that religion is mostly based off faith and faith is believing something without evidence, and there is not one piece of actual evidence to prove the existence of any one God in particular.
@CybermanKing5 жыл бұрын
steven manwaring steven manwaring Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the proof of things not seen. According to former Cardinal John Henry Newman, faith by its very nature is the acceptance of a truth that our reason cannot attain. You are completely right about faith. Despite this, there is also no evidence for a lot of things yet we have faith in them. Until 1774, we didn’t know oxygen exists. Our inability to prove if something exists or not does not depend upon its existence. Because there is no evidence against God, the the most logical conclusion we can meet is that he can exist
@stevenmanwaring89435 жыл бұрын
@@CybermanKing but my point is that even if theoretically we could assert that a God does exist who's to say which God that is? The people of each religion would say it's proof that their God is the one that exists. Faith is not a reliable pathway to truth.
@610huskymoto5 жыл бұрын
Cyberman King So can Russell’s tea pot.😀
@BartSimpson-ng9wv4 жыл бұрын
I am mormon and you missed completely the right point when you said you could make golden plates in your garage. The golden plates is not the miracle clearly, the miracle is THE CONTENT.
@erichstreuber7354 жыл бұрын
Exactly. These people have no idea what Mormonism is.
@dcoolest3334 жыл бұрын
He also doesn't mention the Jospeh Smith's vision or any of the other number of miracles recorded by early LDS pioneers. Honestly, I think God can perform miracles for all his children no matter what religion they are in. How do any of us actually know that a miracle occurred upon the death of Buddha? We don't. Or that Christ fed 5,000. It's about faith. I like a lot of what this guy says in other videos but I dont agree with this one.
@jaydenbecker27574 жыл бұрын
Just like he has no evidence to prove or disprove anything you are choosing to believe blindly in some guy from the 1800s walking through the woods saying he has all the answers. Would you belive it if Joseph Smith walked up to you today, as a stranger, and said I've got all the answers trust me? I dont think you would, you would call him a heretic and not listen. Am I wrong?
@ryte22293 жыл бұрын
the content, the lack of archeological evidence, comparing with biblical scripture and the changing of christian doctrine for organizational benefit disprove mormonism. there may be some mormons that are christians but mormonism is clearly not christian but is a cultic warping of it.
@iconacy3 жыл бұрын
@@jaydenbecker2757 just like he said in this video you put to test the things he says. You don’t believe anything anyone says until you research what he is saying pray about it and ask for Gods spirit to enlighten you to know if it is true. My guess is you have not done this about the prophet JS otherwise you would be a Latter Day Saint Christian. I would recommend you read the Book of Mormon and look up the foot notes at the bottom of the pages that references the Bible and compare to see how close it actually matches up with the Bible I think you would be surprised. There is only one church and it was established in the 1800s if you are not apart of it you are apart of the church of the devil period. Get a Book of Mormon read it get a testimony and be baptized.
@Vandy133 жыл бұрын
Someone who constantly changes their religion doesn't have any room to debate other faiths.
@phoenixstormjr.41954 жыл бұрын
I never even knew they did miracles! Good thing you got to me before they did!
@rockalaroll3 жыл бұрын
You have to ask, "well, what evidence do you have for that?" Dude just owned himself.
@thewrongshoes4 жыл бұрын
If a sick man from India prays to altar full of his multi-gods and he is cured from cancer after treatment it was just the treatment. If a Christian prays to God before cancer treatment and is healed it is a miracle
@michaelmathis19616 жыл бұрын
He hit the nail on the head with the definition of Buddism!
@tortuga34023 жыл бұрын
no.. he didnt
@Joshua-ev9uw2 жыл бұрын
@San yes ... he did. (Like how I state things without evidence)
@StephanASmith Жыл бұрын
@@Joshua-ev9uw without evidence how?
@StephanASmith Жыл бұрын
@@tortuga3402 how so?
@poliincredible7705 жыл бұрын
Confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus. Believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead and you will be saved! Incredible!!!
@danieljoseph64045 жыл бұрын
Saved from what? The boogeyman?
@poliincredible7705 жыл бұрын
Saved from eternal torment.
@danieljoseph64045 жыл бұрын
@@poliincredible770 so all the hindus, buddhists and muslims in the world are going to be tortured for all eternity after they die? Such a horrifying thing to believe in.
@poliincredible7705 жыл бұрын
Daniel Joseph it is actually a beautiful thing to know that there is a way of escape 😃
@danieljoseph64045 жыл бұрын
@@poliincredible770 and christians wonder why people call them crazy
@singwithpowerinfo58152 жыл бұрын
He mocks other religions much more easily than than he does Christianity. Mocking Christianity is extremely easy. Not sure why he doesn’t go there.
@rossm21025 жыл бұрын
As a Latter-Day Saint (Mormon), I find the simplistic way Dr. Turek rejects my beliefs to be consistent with a lot of his arguments: Simplify them and throw them away to make them seem not worth looking at.. he says he could make Golden plates in his garage, but could he produce a book like the Book of Mormon from those plates? Even if you don't believe it is true, this argument is so bogus. What Dr. Turek doesn't tell you is that Joseph Smith says he saw a vision fo the Father and the Son. How's that for a miracle? if we're so happy to believe the ancient texts of the bible, should we not at least look at similar witnesses and be fair to them.. of course not, because that undermines his arguments completely. Beware those who have clever arguments that reject the true things of God. "For they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me". I'll still watch the videos as he says many interesting things but I would advise anyone reading this to filter the message and don't believe it wholesale. and by the way if there are false prohpets, they are there to confuse people so they don't see the true prophets... it's simple people, ask God what is right, That's why I'm a member of my faith. You can listen to people all day long, including people like me, but ultaimtely you need to find out for yourself without their clever words and influence.
@marcspade_pipes5 жыл бұрын
I see your point, friend. We don't believe in all the same things and that's alright. I look at LDS, Catholics, Coptics, Baptists, Lutherans, etc to all be denominations of the same umbrella. We're all about Jesus the Son of God. That's all the common ground we need. There's no reason to simplify and discard each other.
@zaxbitterzen21784 жыл бұрын
Religious definition takes away from the beauty of life. I absolutely love the idea that I am here relatively by accident. I love the notion that I dont owe fealty to an attention-seeking narcissistic deity. I love that my reasoning, and experiences can improve my overall interaction's with others and myself. God has nothing to do with my life, and I find his absence pure bliss.
@cgaqui55933 жыл бұрын
And what about when you die?
@zaxbitterzen21783 жыл бұрын
@@cgaqui5593 Nothing happen's. Even if something did happen you wouldn't be conscious during it. Hoping for a "better" reality after death than the one your actually dealt whilst alive is very detrimental.
@a.r.40933 жыл бұрын
I think people misunderstand God by not knowing Him thoroughly. It's all a result of false assumptions based on limited in-depth knowledge, along with what the world has told them about Him. In order to understand God, you need to read the entire Bible. Not just a couple pages/sections and call it quits, but the entire Bible, both the Old and New Testament. It will take a while, but that is the way to understand as much as possible.
@a.r.40933 жыл бұрын
@@zaxbitterzen2178 Read the entire Bible--not just a couple sections, but the entire Bible.
@IWillSendMyHunters2 жыл бұрын
@@zaxbitterzen2178 Well assuming that God only gives you a better life after you die is just not true, I think you might be a little mistaken as to what the message of the Bible is.
@jayaseto4 жыл бұрын
Frank I think the guy meant wonders, like extraordinary things. For instance someone getting healed or turning into a dog or stone using another deity’s powers other than our living God. Pharaohs sorcerers were able to turn their staff into snakes yet they were not using Gods power. Best answer would be just because they are doing miracles doesn’t mean they are from God. And you can use Mathew 24:24 in support “For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God’s chosen ones. 25 See, I have warned you about this ahead of time.”
@gottesurteil32014 жыл бұрын
Your beginning comments on the religion of sex is something I've been thinking on for some time. What we are seeing here in my opinion is the newest incarnation of the goddess of sex. In the past she went by Inanna, then Ishtar, Astarte, Aphrodite, Venus, and now she is an invisible obsession in our culture. It's just an old idol with a new paint job.
@johnboehmer66833 жыл бұрын
To be more accurate, it's an old demon...
@lord_bless_you16675 жыл бұрын
GOD Almighty Looks in the Core of the Heart; He Looks At the Secret Motives. So if you think you can Outsmart GOD with your reasons, which goes against His Word, BIBLE, Then Think Again.
@chrissonofpear13845 жыл бұрын
And then he does odd things like Samuel 15:15?
@lord_bless_you16675 жыл бұрын
@@chrissonofpear1384 I recommend you read the whole story and see the reason behind. It'll answer your curiosity
@chrissonofpear13845 жыл бұрын
I just see animals being wasted, and later, Solomon's son being curse ... like with Ham's? And the video is discussing how miracles of other religions stack up. So might their ethics. Thoughts also on Numbers 11:19? And why demons can reach this world in the first place, unblocked?
@lord_bless_you16675 жыл бұрын
@@chrissonofpear1384 if you're really curious about these, Read the whole Bible and examine it thoroughly, see the reasons behind to which ever event. But I can't tell you this as an answer as a summary: You Reap what you Sow. Whatever Good you've done you will reap rewards, and whatever bad things you've done you will reap a consequence. I also actually want to touch on some of your points there. About the demons (they are Angels gone rogue with satan as the one who led them to their state right now. Read the Bible and you'll get the Revelation- Ask God for Understanding and Discernment). So This World we live in right now is Obviously fading and falling Apart Physically and Spiritually. You've got to know that this Earth is a War-Zone between God's Children and the devil's Children and Angels and demons too. Having that in mind, what I mean by spiritually is that, people maybe physically alive but Spiritually they're dead (this means Bad News for whoever might be Spiritually dead, cus you've open a way for the devil to throw whatsoever it might to fool and deceive you Away From God's Will) so This World Believes Evil is Good and Good is evil (already been predicted in the Bible). And Miracles are only a fraction of the Blessing of the Lord... It's incromprehenable how Much There is More GOD Have in Store for HIS Children. But thanks be for HIS Unconditional Love, Grace, Peace, Free Salvation, Healing, Cleansing, ect! for both the Good and evil (who are yet to come to HIM), that HE has for Us 24/7, you have to Choose and Accept This For Yourself. Am tellin you, THERE IS NO ONE LIKE HIM IN ALL THE WORLD, NO ONE WHO WILL ACT ON THE BEHALF OF HIS CHILDREN WHO SEEK HIM DILIGENTLY IN PRAYER AND PETITION FAITHFULLY. THERE IS NONE LIKE MY ALMIGHTY GOD, YOU CAN SEARCH THE WHOLE WORLD YOURSELF, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FIND SOMEONE WHO WILL INTERCEDE FOR YOU AND GIVE YOU EVERLASTING JOY AND SO MUCH MORE. GOD BLESS YOU.
@lord_bless_you16675 жыл бұрын
@Alpha Omega I don't doubt your mind can't comprehend the WORD OF GOD ALL IN ALL that's why you have such conclusion and also perhaps cus you never tried to comprehend and you just go on assuming. We can argue as long as we want, we can argue with Words, But Actions and The Works of GOD NEVER FAILS TO WIN ARGUMENTS GOD BLESS YOU
@michaelhu18063 жыл бұрын
I had a daoist friend in high school. He told me his master told him always to be unpredictable, so he told me a story-the only account of a man becoming a deity (which is the spiritual goal in daoism). One night the man was in his house, when there was an explosion of light and sound. When the neighbors checked on him, his house was destroyed and he and his dog had vanished. My friend asked me laughing, what do you think happened? Let me give you a hint, this occurred in the same century gunpowder was invented. I looked at him and he told me giggling “he blew himself up playing with gun powder and people thought he had become a deity!”. So I asked what he believed happened, and for great matter why he believed in daoism at all, going so far as to copy scriptures alone in his room for hours a day. He told me “what do you think I think” and left me at that.
@junkmail8883 Жыл бұрын
I don’t get it. Please explain
@mickqQ4 жыл бұрын
Everything can be explained with magic
@Brickzot4 жыл бұрын
“Tide comes in, tide goes out...can’t explain it!” -Bill O’Reilly
@getAliKhan4 жыл бұрын
Irony Man of Faith: My religion has miracles Man of Another Faith: MY religion has miracles 1st Man of Faith: So where is your evidence?
@lowtiergod71664 жыл бұрын
1st man of faith actually brought up evidence. remember the eucharist miracle of solkokka in 2008? the one that got studied by actual scientists?
@getAliKhan4 жыл бұрын
@@lowtiergod7166 There are too many rabbit holes to be getting in the weeds regarding any particular anecdote. All I can say regarding what happened in Sokolk is that the private study, that commissioned the 2 Catholic scientists to run the tests, was never released to the public in its entirety.
@getAliKhan4 жыл бұрын
Why do people denounce every bit of evidence deduced from one form of inquiry when it contradicts their belief system but tout the authority of the SAME method if the evidence supports their beliefs? Our world view is created more by our beliefs about the world than our actual knowledge of the world. This is why a shared experience can have multiple interpretations. It is right to question the belief of others but it is hypocritical to do so while insisting that your beliefs should not and can not be questioned. "I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned."-Richard Feynman
@lowtiergod71664 жыл бұрын
@@getAliKhan one of them was irreligious i'm quite sure also they were both seperate entirely
@JohnDoe-zu2tz3 жыл бұрын
For a guy that never met this lady, he seems to be very knowledgeable of her life.
@Spriktor7 ай бұрын
common tropes yep
@quantumrobin46275 жыл бұрын
Heard Frank was a quack, after this video, I realize I got extremely good intel
@Anonymous-de8uw4 жыл бұрын
Ugh. I cringe when he demands a certain standard of evidence for some claims, but not others.
@Joshtheigbo4 жыл бұрын
Example?
@Anonymous-de8uw4 жыл бұрын
@@Joshtheigbo Questioner: What do you do with the miracles that other faiths claim? Answer (paraphrasing): We need to evaluate miracles on a case by case basis. What are the supposed miracles of Mormonism? Golden plates. I can do that in my garage. How is that a miracle? Another example, supposedly there was a miracle when the Buddha died, what evidence is there for that? My issue: Supposedly there was a miracle when Jesus rose from the dead. You can ask the same question, what evidence is there for that? The standards of evidence put forth in both situations (Buddha and Jesus) is (I argue) on par, and yet he seems to think the evidence of Jesus’ resurrection is of more substance than Buddha’s death miracle without demonstrating why. The evidence he puts forth for the veracity of Christian miracles is that no other religion has eyewitness accounts. This is patently false. Lots of religions claim to have eyewitness accounts of miracles. A google search will show that. Furthermore, he’s willing to come up with hypothetical situations demonstrating how easily golden plates could be procured since he could make them in his garage. Why doesn’t he do the same with his own religion? Couldn’t he come up with stone tablets with the ten commandments on them in his garage as well? He’s not applying the same level of scrutiny to his own religion as he’s doing to others and so I cringe at the obvious bias.
@colmwhateveryoulike32404 жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-de8uw Can I ask what makes you think the evidence for both is on par?
@Anonymous-de8uw4 жыл бұрын
@@colmwhateveryoulike3240 Ya, that's a good question. I think a lot of religious discussion would be better if people all had a common understanding of what constitutes good evidence. I guess I'll start with Carl Sagan, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." When your friend, whom you trust and has told you the truth in the past, tells you something trivial such as, "I found $5 on the ground yesterday," you would likely be inclined to accept what he said as truth. No further inquiry would be needed, I think we can both agree that you would be justified in believing him at face value. Regardless of whether he actually did find a $5 bill, you have good reason or sufficient evidence to accept his claim as truth. In this context, the anecdotal evidence is strong enough to carry such an innocuous claim. What if your friend said, "I won the lottery yesterday," would you be justified in taking what he said at face value in this case? Initially, maybe yes, but you might be more inclined to raise a skeptical eyebrow. You might ask him to show you the ticket, or his bank balance. But, maybe your friend simply tells you to trust him and thats the end of the conversation. Whether or not he actually won the lottery, I think we can both agree that you would not be justified to accept his claim based on the anecdotal evidence in this case. We would say that his anecdotal evidence is not strong enough to carry the heavy claim that he won the lottery and more evidence would be required to justify a belief. So, when religions make extraordinary claims like, "God exists," or "Jesus died and was resurrected," or "when we die we're reincarnated" we would be hard pressed to accept these extraordinary claims at face value. We might say that the anecdotal evidence supporting them is not strong enough to justify a belief in them. And I argue that for most, if not all, the primary evidence for their core claims comes down to anecdotal evidence. You might be tempted to say, "but there is hard evidence available. It's not just anecdotal when it comes to these claims." But then you have to ask questions like why does science, the most rigorous method we have for deciding whether or not we should accept evidence for a claim, not take this evidence seriously? And generally you'll find that the answer to that is that the evidence put forth to support religious claims, simply doesn't hold up against honest scientific inquiry and scrutiny. And that's why I argue that evidence put forth to support supernatural claims regarding Buddha or Jesus is on par; the general scientific consensus is that the evidence put forth simply doesn't carry the weight of such heavy claims.
@colmwhateveryoulike32404 жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-de8uw Ok so essentially you're saying that it doesn't matter that there is more evidence to corroborate Jesus' life, death and resurrection than to corroborate Buddha's death because you weren't there and so, no evidence can convince you since it would have to be anecdotal? Or is it just that you discount miracles as being unprovable? If the latter, that's why I deconverted when I went to university. But I was an atheist scientist (biology btw, with focus on ecology - hence the need to immerse myself in the natural world to seek meaning rather than the society that was so evidently out of balance with reality) and I witnessed years of miraculous signs while seeking truth before I had to admit that truth itself was communicating back to me so I have to agree that until you see a supernatural series of events and verify them, it's hard to believe. That said, it actually makes for a very satisfying context for spacetime nature rather than being at odds with science. Philosophy can only demonstrate plausibility and give someone permission to be intellectually open enough to entertain and test for supernature. Which obviously I recommend. If the former, one of the first things I did upon witnessing what I did was review all the skeptical arguments I was so familiar with and I did find that one thing skeptics dismissed unfairly was the historical evidence corroborating the Biblical narrative, and especially Jesus. It turns out that there is more evidence than a historian would expect and it is incredibly difficult to find a good explanation for much of it if Jesus didn't really fulfil the claims. There are many named witnesses to Jesus after his death, including a good number who professional historians widely agree died because they bore witness about a man who Jewish leaders referred to as a magician when dismissing his claims to be their Messiah, and even hostile Roman witnesses to his death who say it coincided with an inexplicable darkness that wasn't an eclipse. To name a few. So I understand where you're coming from regarding miracles but the actual amount of evidence for Buddha's light thing certainly isn't on par so that's why I wondered. Having said that, I have personally seen stranger things and maybe Buddha did emit light lol.
@michaelkaye30603 жыл бұрын
Why weren't the words of Jesus ENOUGH for the people of the middle ages? Why were so many people killed, tortured, starved etc.. all in the name of Jesus
@michaelkaye30603 жыл бұрын
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC fair enough. But as far as I'm concerned about it, all religion is phony and fear based. Speaking as if God were a parent, you should never have to fear an ever lasting punishment because they're upset. You should be accepted correct?
@bluebp52013 жыл бұрын
3:00 Quick correction that's actually Dharma. And the caste system of the ancient Hindu belief believing in what you do in one life affects you and what will become the next. It's all still karma, but there's more intricacy in it than just that. I am a Christian scriptural apologist who has been studying theologies faith and scripture for over 21 years and took a short sabbatical to study Buddhism and at its roots Hinduism for an uncle of mine, struggling in his marrage to a proclaiming Buddhist woman wanting to raise her children in the same lifestyle.
@heroevulgar2 жыл бұрын
The worst torture someone can experience is reincarnation. Some say even worst than hell, why would you want to live on this earth over and over?
@Joshua-ev9uw2 жыл бұрын
@Eduardo Martinez with my mental illnesses, my WORST result is having to go through this terrible life AGAIN!
@bluebp52012 жыл бұрын
Not quite sure I understand the logic of that statement. In concept. In theory reincarnation is a moment in time, generally scrubbed from one's memory, mostly. And then not experienced again until your next death. Hell is a place of eternal final placement ,void of all things God. A place of absolutely no life, no "light" and no love. And life on earth is nothing in comparison to the concept of the agony of existence without life. People from.different times of our history, or people today of different cultures and exsistances only wish they could have been so lucky. Mental illness and the pain of reincarnation. Really? 1 in 4 people suffer from some sort of mental illness. And do you know what most all of them have in common. They believe their alone. Mental illness isn't all that uncommon anymore. Infant it's so common, I'm not convinced that it's just not another label or a typing built to suppress the mind that much more. When did we just stop calling it depression? And when was depression a new thing? Walk the streets of any city and look for the lost souls. Who are people in so much pain everyday at the thought of living life, they can't wait until their next hi so they can forget the world that much more once again. No I'm sorry. But I don't think we have a Mental illness problem, I don't even think we have a depression problem. I just think, that we live in a world where mankind has gotten too good ... and too comfortable with not growing up and feeling sorry for themselves is just the norm. It's our way of life. It's like using ur zodiac to instantly try to figure people out instead of getting to know them in the first place. It's excuses and it always has been. Everyone experiences pain and at one time or another everyone experiences depression. The difference is what you do with it. Do we use it as an excuse? Or move on and get on with our lives?..