Crowbar frontman Kirk Windstein goes off after fan climbs on stage

[@DH-hl5tc]

The people who hate on kirk clearly forget he was friends with Dime. Kirks a genuine Teddy bear of a man, great guy.

[@333baphomet]

i attended a Crowbar show some years back and i can confirm that Kirk and his wife were amazingly kind and warm people

[@andrewvanhalen1984]

After what happened to Dime I don't blame bands for making the stage off limits to fans because you never know what would happen.

[@mlody969]

Dime was shot. You don't need to go on the stage to shot musician

[@PsychoMantis308]

But the dude went on stage and shot him. Kirk personally knew Dime and was friends with him.

[@TheFoxcrusher]

exactly, very taboo to go on stage in my opinion. different times now.

[@lukeknutson3191]

@@mlody969 thats not the point fucktard. If you are NOT welcomed on stage YOU DO NOT go on stage.

[@dante316a]

And add to that that Kirk was close to Dime

[@liampattillo9833]

What most people here do not realize is that Kirk is actually cool with fans getting on stage... at venues that allow fans to get on stage. If there is security, dont get on stage, simple as that.

[@shillian4770]

@merluzo8269xactly this, the fan was being stupid but I think he was just going to crowd surf until security tackled him into Kirk, who probably thought the fan was trying to tackle him or somethin. Given the misunderstanding his reaction is understandable.

[@frankkordas1864]

Kirk is the nicest dude. Met him a few years back at the Corrosion of Conformity/Crowbar tour. He was so chill, just walking around and talking to people and sipping a beer. It was like he was one of us. Mad respect for this guy

[@leonsdiesirae]

i genuinely understand how Kirk felt. nobody should interrupt him while playing Planets Collide.

[@metalhammer3432]

I've met kirk gave me a sweet ass pick. He's an awesome guy, i think he overreacted a little but i understand his apprehension. Someone already commented on dime and I think that really bugs him out. It's is sad that our favorite performers have to play in front of us with a level of fear.

[@jeremynelson5311]

True. I've hung out with Kirk. He's a great dude. Loves his fans.

[@TomRSM]

Think about Dimebag. I don't fucking blame him. The security over-reacted as if the fan was about to stab him or some shit. I'd be paranoid as fuck too in that situation. Fact is, it's a metal show. Not a punk or hardcore show. Kirk was in his moment. Respect.

[@skalamaz3]

um see it again. he was going to stage dive he wasn't going to kill anyone and the only thing that could have prevented Darrell's death was metal detectors at that show...security isn't going to do anything to a madman in the crowd with a gun going off.

[@skalamaz3]

and btw Crowbar is a hardcore band and doom metal band

[@ianspeckmaier9565]

That analogy about his office is spot on. Wise and justified words. Thank you Kirk for sticking up for musicians.

[@christopherk111]

KIRK didn't see the fan--the fan was just going to dive off--the security guard slammed the stage diver into KIRK--KIRK didn't have a clue that the fan was just going to dive off--the security guard was only doing his job--but failed--and I don't blame KIRK for being pissed off--STAY OFF THE FUCKING STAGE!!!---

[@Crazysteve779]

Perfectly said

[@bdp1966]

I have known Kirk many years and he is one of the sweetest guys you will ever meet.

[@dhawx]

Kirk and Robin rule!Kirk is the ruling rock trivia god,riff lord, and Robin is the sweetest lil sista anybody could have!I asked him if the sudden jolt woke him up?

[@adambell3809]

Crowbar played ottawa not too long ago...kirk was a cool and down to earth dude. Also met him at a down and pentagram show in 12. I dont pay my money to see some idiot get on the stage. Mosh in the goddamned pit.

[@xgymratx]

Adam Bell who the hell can mosh to crowbar anyways? i bought a crowbar cd in 95.....thought it was the worst mistake i ever made but now i use it to put me to sleep........someone needs to book this band at summer of hate with crowd deterrent or taste the steel.........primadonna rock stars would get stomped

[@skalamaz3]

@@adambell3809 moshing is fucking stupid. It ruined my experience last band I saw. However, punching a guy in the face would be more appropriate next time someone slams into me.

[@davec3901]

Yeah seems friendly.

[@strictlymetal]

Think about Dime and then think about Randy, who he mentioned without using his name during his rant. If you're not invited, stay off the stage, this isn't the 80s through early 90s when stage diving was inevitable. Things have changed and lots of bands don't want you in their space

[@HonkeyKongLive]

Kirk was fine, guys. The security guard drilled a kid into him and he rightfully went off. That security dude owes everyone an apology.

[@AllCarsUnited]

To be fair it was the security guy that slammed the guy on him. Dude was just going to dive

[@grizzlywhisker]

Yeah I mean I've been to a million concerts where people get up on stage real quick and jump into the crowd, not sure why this was such a huge deal. I guess the idea is that after Dimebag got shot, this behavior became frowned upon or something? I think he was referencing one of the guy's from Lamb of God being put in a foreign prison because some dumb kid jumped off the stage and died during one of their shows. Seemed like quite an overreaction to me.

[@robertgreuniesen4051]

I agree. Dude had zero intentions of harming anyone. Was about to stagedive

[@billwill3732]

@@grizzlywhisker kirk had his eyes closed he said, had he seen what happened i bet he would have been pissed at security. i think he assumed the guy was going after him because that gorilla tackled him into kirk.

[@893R6-w8t]

I've said " I am so _SICK_ of this _SHIT_ " so many times cause of this video lool

[@georgejohnson5904]

He overreacted but he’s right. It’s understandable that he’d freak out considering one of his friends was murdered in the same way.

[@braydenxwhelan1490]

he was friends w dimebag, knowing some guy getting on stage is how a friend went out, as well as the randy blythe thing… i dont think it was on overreaction (plus god only knows how coked up he was)

[@billwill3732]

@@braydenxwhelan1490 what is the randy thing

[@braydenxwhelan1490]

@@billwill3732 in 2010, Lamb Of God did a show in Czechia, security took a smoke break, and some 19 year old got on stage and rushed randy, who kicked him off - kid broke his neck and died, randy got charged w manslaughter, and went to trial, but he was acquitted bc it was deemed self defence

[@Ch69ad]

There's an old adage that once you pass the monitors, your ass is fair game.

[@Doom_Lord1993]

I met Kirk 4 times. He is the nicest and Most friendly musican i know. I think He was super affraid in this situation. Thats the only reason he reacted like this. I think the security overacted a little bit and made the situation more worse than should be.

[@stlhd4lyfe1]

Now watch Kirks foot collide, collide lol

[@Slamster1996]

Kirk is just that quiet big dude that you better don't piss off

[@darrynmccartney1118]

Let's put it in perspective here. The security did their job. Do NOT go onto the stage when an artist is performing. Kirk is a legend, super chill dude aswell. He lost his friend Dime to some asshole who walked on stage and shot him 8 fucking times. He also mentions Randy Blythe from Lamb of God, who went to fucking jail under manslaughter charges because some clown climbed on stage and security DIDN'T do their jobs, Randy kicked the guy off stage and the dude died. Artists don't and shouldn't have to deal with self entitled clowns who climb onto the stage when the artists are performing. Stay the fuck off the stage, enjoy the music and respect the artists performance. Simple as that.

[@sloanguitar4862]

Kirk is one of my favorite musicians of all time. Good job Kirk, thank you so much for standing up for working musicians around the world.

[@ethanmcclain7570]

I think it's bullshit for people to hate on Kirk for this. Every musician has nights where they go off a bit more than they should or overreact. Touring is stressful business, and most of us are no better in our daily lives. Blowing up sometimes when it isn't entirely warranted is part of being human. For what it's worth, I met Kirk at a Crowbar show. He was a super nice guy.

[@NateB1976]

"Pardon me are you in show business? NO, well then get the fuck off the stage!" -Sleazy P. Martini

[@AlucardsQuest]

Dude was just gonna stage dive, then security tackles him and lightly grazed Kirk's leg... omfg! He almost died!!!

[@Lau97432]

I know what you mean, but Dime (his Friend, you know who he is) was killed on stage, I understand what kirk feel when a guy come on stage like this

[@GinoTrickz]

hahahhah exactly

[@Sygg-h2n]

"You goddamn junkies!"

[@bengibbons376]

After what happened to Dime and Randy Blythe, fans should NEVER be allowed on stage.

[@TheSonic1685]

I'll have 2 number nines...

[@robertgreuniesen4051]

Dude was literally about to stage dive and got tackled.

[@W.J.M.]

Tbf, nothing would've happened had security not been so aggro with him to begin with.

[@tylermrhandon]

I think he was referring to randy situation, guy comes into his work fucks it up and almost sends him to prison in a foreign country. Dudes right. No need to get in their space

[@brianmcg.8260]

Nice Kick ! Kirk Windstein. God's favorite. One of his favorites. Hang in there. Riff Lord.

[@mpampakos]

YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT THE KID WAS JUST GOIN TO CROWDSURF! HE WASNT GOIN TO ATTACK ANYONE...

[@msbtrock]

you can't take that risk after what happened to Dime!

[@billrobertjoe]

crowdsurfing is gay

[@robertgreuniesen4051]

Agree. Dude was zero threat

[@tristanwright9733]

@@robertgreuniesen4051 nah bro. literally dont do that shit. Just because hardcore bands think that shits okay

[@hansphurz9411]

​@@tristanwright9733stage diving at Crowbar shows used to be standard procedure for years. The security guy fucked up and Kirk didn't know and overreacted. End of the story.

[@assbach]

Well okay, but does that mean it's okay to kick some fan in the head? Why not at least apologize?

[@dhawx]

dimebag was a friend of kirks.Lamb of Gods singer got put in prison for a fan stage diving and killing himself!Did you hear kirk, "im sitting here with my eyes closed playing my heart out"!.Who knows , but maybe got the shit scared out of him???The rules changed after The Dimebag murder! Unless you get invited(even when the security is lax),stay the fuck off of the stage!!!!!

[@alexandrpesak4524]

Dan Hawx it was not a "fan stage diving". he kicked him down from the stage.

[@dhawx]

it was posted that NO ONE was allowed on stage(cept for the band), Get over it!

[@alexandrpesak4524]

So, if it was posted like that, does it mean anyone is allowed to cause anyones death? Randy had many options how to deal with the situation - he could stop playing e.g. Instead he kept beating the guys.

[@dhawx]

Alexandr Pešák if a psyco with a gun jumps on stage and blows kirks head off, you dipsticks would be having a different conversation , that's where the fright, then reaction came from!No, its not alright for anyone to kick anybody in the head.He reacted with a kick then he stopped the song.Cant you guys see that Kirk was surprised???Don't yall remember what happened to his mate, Dimebag??kirk is one of the most down to earth people who I know and I have lots of respect for him.

[@hannibalbarca7902]

I saw the guy perform last month in a small ass venue in Greece... the last thing anyone can accuse him of is not being able to be up close and personal with fans and not handle people jumping around and fucking shit up. He probably didn't even see what actually transpired between the fan and the security guy there and overreacted for a bit. The kick is probably inexcusable but I think he deserves a break.

[@Levee1234]

Kirk overreacted here and it was the fucking security guards fault

[@palopo-t3v]

That''s just how Dimebag's last seconds looked like. Some dude climbing on stage.

[@TheIzach123]

I Have performed before man and I really think it's a real kick to the dick when people jump on stage, Knock Mics down, run into the other musicians. most of the time it's not even a security thing, its when a bunch of rampaging kids just start fuckin shit up

[@BYTHEWAY9-x9g]

Kirk is a fuckin legend

[@MrMetalCreature]

Fucking love Kirk

[@10plzbruh]

Lol i no that kid fuckin awesome and looked like he was about to stage dive

[@fatboydashredder9877]

Hes also probably pissed cuz they interrupted his performance

[@JonnySublime]

Everybody has a bad day at work

[@DEFKAST90s]

After what happened to Dime and Randy, Kirk had every fucking right to be like that.

[@maniaque37]

thats not a valid reason. for example , if one of your friend gets killed , it dont give u the right to kill someone else. sorry but u should know that. the mistake was from kirk and the security guard. since kirk know about dime and such , then he should keep his eyes opened and he would have seen that it was the security guard who pushed the guy on him.

[@mark6302]

don't go on stage unless they ask

[@shawnboogz7546]

Kirk is a god!Severely underrated player and writer!!!

[@leviathon18]

i understand where he coming from but also that kid was just gunna dive back into the crowd! that security guard tackled him into the singer lol

[@skalamaz3]

Wtf is so hard about taking a guy off stage without tackling him? Kirk should have spent more time critizing security.

[@billrobertjoe]

oh my god! tackling!! omg it's so harsh!!!

[@The.Original.Potatocakes]

Grand Rapids Michigan. Last year, someone threw a beer at Kirk and I turned around to watch 2 guys(one was a tall red head) turn around and punch that dude square in the face and dropped him. Both of em dropped em.

[@alexmatthews2332]

Wait really?? I was there and missed it

[@ephie4351]

completely understandable reaction in my opinion this is not a hardcore show keep it in the pit

[@rockerrebel9833]

Damn right, so many disruptions caused by ignorant concert/festival goers. From Dimebag's murder to the gobstopper incident at bloodstock with Cradle of Filth and then Randy Blythe's arrest

[@sinisterminister9920]

Kirk u sweet heart

[@brianmcg.8260]

That was a love tap.

[@blakeleeper624]

hes got a point, he does play with his eyes closed, and hes like what late 40s/50s a fall could mess him up and ruin their tour. and ruin the show for thousands of fans. that little office rant though was a little strange.

[@FoundryStreetJason]

Well said!

[@Indiofoo760]

If the security just let him stage dive this misunderstanding could’ve all been avoided, further proof that security at shows create the majority of problems that go on even if most of them are good people just there to help

[@AB-ou8ve]

After what happened to Dime, no one has any business on stage other than the band. Overreacting is unavoidable, so don’t provoke it.

[@ivankoloff1]

was this in atlanta?

[@karolykiss8649]

Angry Santa in action :)

[@seanc2280]

If you don’t respect or understand the fact that he had one of his friends (Dime) senselessly killed on stage then you clearly don’t understand why he said or did that. Mad respect to Kirk.

[@donlycatguts]

After Dime bag and Randy why woukd a band want fans on stage? I wouldn't I would not want a fanon stage unless i invited them on.

[@elmoblatch1561]

Kirk is one of the coolest dudes on the planet. I can't blame him for getting a little pissed really wasn't the fans fault more of the security but the fans should keep their ass off the stage. I didn't pay to see an asshole jump off stage. He is right one missed step someone could find up dead.

[@dead_horse8913]

Kirks the fuckin man and hes absolutely right

[@KzudemRiM]

he should not have kicked the guy in the head thats too far he was already on the ground for real

[@Wretchedman007]

I'm 50 years old and I've been to many concerts. He may be a nice guy, but explain it before your show. You're a band that has mosh pits, people are going to get up on the stage. People are going to jump off. That's what they do. You're not playing George Michael up there, I get it. What happened to dimebag sucked, I'm a huge fan of Pantera. Just explain it in the beginning of your show, kicking one of your fans in the head is not cool.

[@dalegriffin6768]

I'll tell you a short story about Kirk,I was at a C.O.C gig in Austin and Crowbar were the on the card and after they played I went to buy some merch and Kirk was at the merch table and all I ask was how much are for the hats because they didn't have a price tag and freaking Lost his mind and started cussing me out,I was like damn Kirk I guess this means I can't have a picture taken with u, but maybe he was having a rough night, but I just walked off,my point is that he loses his temper when it's unnecessary,he didn't have to kick that dude in the face,I mean a huge Crowbar fan and I always liked Kirk but he needs to work on his temper or start using drugs again 😅

[@danielcastillo4537]

Come on this is a Crowbar show for crying out loud! You should have a beer in tow and be stoned outta your mind! This is not moshpit music my friend!

[@christopherdeftones2878]

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[@kiddslawnservice]

I don't think Kirk is used to that chaotic punk type vibe getting on stage and fuckin shit up, stage diving and shit. That kid was pretty harmless until security wrecked him. Fuckin hardcore shows used to be nothing but that shit 1 guy after another. Shit even Pennywise can sometimes convince venues to take down their barriers at shows today, and believe me its one massive stage dive and punk spaz out and if you get to close to Fletcher he's fuckin you up without remorse haha

[@TylerADV]

kiddslawnservice I guess you aren't familiar with his Shellshock/Aftershock days...

[@kiddslawnservice]

Tyler I know he was in those bands and so was Jimmy Bower and I know Pepper was in Graveyard Rodeo, Phil was in Razor White and so on. Never seen footage of shows honestly, I don't know how the old New Orleans scene was or whether it was chaotic or what. In the Heavy Blues from the Bayou clips Jimmy Bower acted like it wasn't all that crazy but maybe I'm wrong. But I can bet you that the New Orleans hardcore scene couldn't hold a candle to what was going on in LA and the Bay Area.

[@Sublight77]

Love Kirk but he probably wouldnt appreciate a Terror show lol. Look up a terror concert here, its total encouraged mayhem of fans onstage. They freakin rock. Hail Crowbar too

[@RippinToons]

Look up the video of Crowbar playing This Is Hardcore in Philly, kirks got no problem with moshers and stage divers, there’s just a time and place for everything

[@cistysaigon]

Love Crowbar and Kirk, still this wasnt Kirks brightest moment - at least that kick was too much - and the security fucked up here, not the fan who was only going to stagedive.

[@macabre19]

Like how he kicked that stupid guy.

[@detsiege]

After what happened to dimebag hes lucky kirk didnt fuck him up

[@starfishmoomin]

hahaaaa

[@MetalUpYourAss29]

Heard the story on the latest Jasta podcast. Can't blame Kirk one bit under the circumstances.

[@marcussegura395]

He reminds me of Kevin James with a beard

[@-TheLambSauce]

This was bullshit.I was at this show and if you ask me, both Kirk and the security guard overreacted.For those that have never been to MDF, we have 3 venues:The Ram's Head(this one), The Soundstage, and Edison Lot.At The Soundstage we're allowed to get onstage, stagedive, interact with bands etc.Some of the bands get knocked into, it happens.For Kirk to kick this kid in the head for getting tackled by security is just disgusting.I was severely disappointed in this show because not only did this happen, but it was also my 25th birthday and I had been a huge fan of Crowbar for 20 years.Needless to say, I'm not anymore.

[@kyronlazarus9029]

I'm going to come into your workplace and ruin whatever it is you're working on.

[@-TheLambSauce]

+Kyron Lazarus If you want to replicate what Kirk did, you'll have to be completely justified for being there, be tackled by an overzealous guy that's there, and fall and kinda sorta bump into me.Sound good to you?

[@TheIzach123]

I Have performed before man and I really think it's a real kick to the dick when people jump on stage, Knock Mics down, run into the other musicians. most of the time it's not even a security thing, its when a bunch of rampaging kids just start fuckin shit up.

[@skalamaz3]

Mannibal Lector you've been a fan since you were 5 years old?

[@kolbykauffman4180]

Soundstage and Rams Head have always been like this. Side Bar, Brass Monkey and Sonar were far more loose about it. But Sonar and Brass are gone now, they resurrected Rechor Theater, Charm City Art Space, and Metro. Security tightened for everything. Now all shows (aside from local and/or lower tier events) are far more strict. Stage diving can get you kicked out. Fuck, pits can get you in trouble. Things have changed in odd ways.

[@jjperera3389]

Yep hard rock is dead, just go acoustic,

[@Derpadeedooda]

This was pretty cringe

[@bristolpistol7860]

Sweet tackle and kick

[@kevinsiffel7331]

Time for a new job Kirk

[@alexandrpesak4524]

randy blythe killed a guy. that's how it is. i think there is no excuse for what he did.

[@Springfeeeel]

you're an idiot

[@alexandrpesak4524]

Springfeeeel that's a strong argument, thank you

[@Springfeeeel]

Alexandr Pešák What point is there to make? You never made one yourself....simply calling you an idiot for your ignorant comment will suffice.

[@alexandrpesak4524]

Springfeeeel Ok, so my point is this. It is hard to accept for me that Kirk kicked in the head a guy who was held by another guy. And I completely don't accept that Kirk was trying to find an excuse for that with the Randy Blythe case. Randy kicked a guy down from the stage, he bumped his head and died in the hospital. So, actually, Randy caused his death by his aggressive behavior, and actually, he behaved like this during the whole show. Randy won the case at the court, but the judges in our country are ignorants + easy to corrupt. Whereas I believe it was a kind of accident in case of Kirk, it wasn't in the case of Randy. I simply can't stand any aggressive behavior including musicians beating their own fans. And I really don't understand the support Randy got in the metal scene and why the hell his case should be used as an excuse for other violent deeds. I hope you won't find my point too ignorant.

[@elmoblatch1561]

Randy nudged the guy kinda like get off the stage. (Go watch the video) The security guard gave him a huge shove Randy got the blame. Fans need to keep their ass off stage, if I were in the same position as the band no fans are allowed on the stage period. People getting jumped on or people falling to their death makes no sense.

[@nvjohansson9741]

Biker covered soy.

[@sanctuarypest2212]

If you want to stage dive, go to a punk, hardcore or grind show.

[@pstx2816]

He had every right to be mad... His friend Dimebag was murder that way. I wouldn't doubt that type of shit haunts him.