crusader kings 2 is a mess

[@zoeygeorge2403]

Did chat tell you about the bug where the where if there's too many Byzantine nobles they would slow the game to a crawl because every day they would check on every other character in the game to see if they could castrate them.

[@woodykrska9947]

:0

[@jillyeon]

What

[@Sr.Pirulito]

​@@jillyeonFair reaction.

[@budakbaongsiah]

Fixed bug.

[@beepboopbeepp]

Pre patch castration days were the good days

[@bernard832]

Your Grace, the Rus' are attacking Constantinopole! - Don't care Your Grace, the Bulgars have captured Thrace! - Whatever Your Grace, there are hot singles in your area! - Tell me more

[@palmerharrison7660]

Pretty sure she doesn't care if they're single, only if they're hot...or powerful.

[@Dell-ol6hb]

Playing as the Byzantine Empire for the first game of CK2 is like throwing a kid who can't swim off a boat into the Atlantic Ocean

[@tamiloxd7168]

Literally, Byzantine Empire has to be the hardest start for the first time. It needs understanding of the game to be able to survive a few generation on the throne.

[@garethmcguinness377]

We all learned that the hard way though lmao My first ck2 playthrough was the Byzantines in the 1337 start date, I had grand ambitions about beating back the turks and the Latins only to lose my throne to one of my vassals after like 5 minutes

[@tamiloxd7168]

@@garethmcguinness377 That particular start date is very hard just for that pretender faction at the start of the game. The best course of action is playing Trebizond. Or playingan early Byzantine Empire start, build a trade post get a lot of money and try not to lose the power. And also, keeping the succesion on your family.

[@Reinhard_Erlik]

@@tamiloxd7168 Wait what it was supposed to be hard? I went to war with the entirety of Europe and still won.

[@tamiloxd7168]

@@Reinhard_Erlik It is not hard if you know how to play. But i dont see a normal person managing the Byzantine Empire just like that.

[@nairicin]

honestly, a game where you play a ruler's wife and have to manage social stuff in the medieval era sounds sick as fuck

[@gardenapple]

Sounds a bit like Long Live the Queen.

[@Arionthelady]

@@gardenapplenot at all.

[@bunanamilku]

my type of game i cannot lie

[@hollyhobgoblin8838]

The closest I can think of is Reigns: Her Majesty. It's more about managing stats versus managing social connections, but I would still recommend it if you like this concept.

[@BlueRhythm24]

Or the French Revolution visual novel

[@wolv0223]

Jillyeon: "I think playing the Byzantines should be fun." The Byzantine Empire: *I'm about end this Basilissa's whole career*

[@MaiseNow]

"I'm kind of terrible at Crusader Kings" My favorite game, Dwarf Fortress, gets through this mindset by having the unofficial tagline of "Losing is fun!" The CK series has the same vibes for me. Losing is fun! It's how you learn, and how you get the best stories lmao.

[@GarkKahn]

I rarely lost playing ck2 Because hoi2 and ck1 taught me all the lessons i ever needed in my life as a paradox player

[@hengineer]

lmao I rarely lose, but I often have very interesting playthroughs, where the most interesting times I have the shortest ruler lifespan

[@ananiashard9466]

I never understood this thing about DF, it's one of the easiest games of this type

[@Loutron3030]

I'd agree with this, some of the most chaotic and fun moments I've had in CK3 have been during the early stages of the game where lots of things can and will go wrong. My first playthrough of CK3 was really engaging just because I wasn't as adept at the econ aspect of the game, so the AI was more able to challenge my authority and/or sovereignty into the late stages of the game. I don't think I want to get so good at Crusader Kings that hijinks no longer ensue when I start up the game. If that happens I'll have to take a tolerance break or something; forget how to play the game well so it's more fun.

[@ChocoChur2os]

@@ananiashard9466 after learning the basics it's easy to turtle and avoid all FUN, at least at this point of development. But most players will set themselves up to projects which make the game dangerous again. Depending on where you embark and RNG events a fort can easily derail. Also, I've heard that keeping dwarfs minimally sane was quite challenging a some versions ago.

[@miguelpadeiro762]

2:25 given the vast majority of people are right handed, showing up in a duel wielding your weapon on the wrong side is a big "wait what the fuck I didnt train for this" moment for your enemy lol

[@Dell-ol6hb]

True, very hard to deal with if you haven't trained for it, especially because over time as you gain experience fighting it becomes muscle memory, second nature, so it could literally cause your death if the other guy is left-handed and your muscle memory is making you move as if they are right-handed.

[@strudeel]

Yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s a big advantage in sports like fencing. Left handed people train against right handed people all the time, but the reverse isn’t true.

[@GarkKahn]

Also remember left handed used to be considered evil until not that long ago Even the word Sinister comes from it

[@Dell-ol6hb]

@@GarkKahn yea teachers would force left handed kids to learn to use their right hand to write and do other stuff

[@miguelpadeiro762]

@Dell-ol6hb Oh boy I am 19 and still caught one of these bastards In 3rd grade we had a crazy music teacher My friend is left handed so she tried to play the recorder flute with her left hand. He would have none of it. He literally taped her right hand/arm to the flute so she'd play correctly It was just one of his demented escapades (like throwing chalk pieces at students)

[@dorkbaitart]

youtube suggested me one of your videos and i have to say that this is the kind of content i am here for. i don't care to watch somebody expertly play crusader kings and become a technologically advanced globe spanning empire. i don't even care to see somebody create the most inbred man they can. i simply want to see someone as confused as i was the single time i tried to play the game, and also someone determined to wreak total chaos across a game as possible without regard for consequences. tyvm

[@octocube3607]

Yessss

[@infinityOnlyCuty]

It honestly feels so much more chill. There's no objective to her game, she is just letting life in the game happen to her and I feel like that's such a beautiful way to experience a game.

[@wroughtplatinum]

omg u gotta play the sims medieval

[@cbw900]

I second this, The Sims Medieval would be such a good match

[@tburrrg2502]

Omg Jill you would gets like at least 200k viewers from a sims medieval vid

[@Longitudelineloser]

Literally

[@katierasburn9571]

Yes omg its like crusader kings sims crossover on a smaller goofier scale

[@askformore9293]

The sims medieval is so unhinged it would be perfect

[@andywells1042]

Jillyeon you’re at 6k subs but you are literally one of, if not the funniest content creator in the Paradox genre right now and can easily gain thousands more, please don’t be discouraged bc every single one of these vids is fucking gold

[@chainz983]

This is 2 months later... She's almost at 20k now. Dafuq did she do to get almost 12k more subs in 2 months

[@hildegardvonbangin]

just finished binging your CK3 videos and was sad there was no more, then you upload this? thank you, you have saved my life

[@figaeroth]

i've only known crusader king from watching my brother play, and every time i'm so perplexed because *so much is going on constantly* to me. but now i know that it's actually a dating sim and sometimes wars happen! thank you jillyeon!!

[@TzarTzarevich777]

5:02 (HISTORY ALERT!) okay so Despot means "Lord" in greek and the meaning of this position means: As such it was applied to any person of rank, but in a more specific sense to God (e.g. Revelation 6:10), bishops and the patriarchs, and primarily the Roman and Byzantine Emperors. Occasionally it was used in formal settings, for example on coins (since Leo III the Isaurian) or formal documents. During the 8th and 9th centuries, co-emperors appear on coinage with the address despotes, but this was still a mark of respect rather than an official title. Senior emperors were also occasionally addressed as despotes. Before the 12th century, the honorific was used interchangeably with the more formal title of basileus. Sebastokrator means: was created during the Komnenian Restoration when Alexios Komnenos appointed his elder brother Isaac Komnenos and the title meant according to Anna Komnene (daughter of Alexios Komnenos whom was a historian in the Empire):"A second emperor" (NOT A CO-EMPEROR!) aka a Brother to the Emperor. Caesar (not salad): was a highly prestigious court position to the heirs or any other relative in the family of the Emperors in the Eastern Roman Empire since 4th century A.D after St.Theodosius "the Great" issued some changes in the Empire, that included the title "Caesar"

[@TzarTzarevich777]

Yes, I am a Romaboo AND a Byzantinophile

[@nonarygaming9520]

The nice thing about ck3 is how many QoL improvements were made, making it a much easier game to learn. Don’t have to buy boats, you just embark automatically. Don’t have to waste a focus just to gain access to seduction. Schemes and Vassal management is much easier, as is succession and religion. On the other hand, ck2 lets you be a bear, so it’s really impossible to say which game is better.

[@Dell-ol6hb]

Hey I liked having to need boats though tbh, it made it so it was useful if you were a naval power like Venice for example

[@nonarygaming9520]

@@Dell-ol6hb That’s totally fair, but now with cultural tenets/innovations that reduce embarkation costs you can still be a naval power without the added hassle.

[@Freedmoon44]

But it just doesnt ht the same to just raid without the logistical limit of how much money could be carried in the boats ​@@nonarygaming9520

[@OfficialPizza]

i can't move on from ck2 until i create immortal horse pope with bear culture

[@squaeman_2644]

They dumbed down the game. And got rid of naval...

[@696190]

Ambition: A Minuet In Power might fit your desires best. It's a visual novel taking place shortly before, and shortly after, the French Revolution, where your character gets invited to all kinds of parties organised by the various factions in the game. It's mostly historically accurate, but you can manipulate the events in such a way as to make the Revolution fail.

[@OneRustyDonut]

You really are a unique type of gamer.

[@bunnerkins]

My friend gifted me this game over a year ago. I opened it once, decided "too much reading" and never played it again ... until one of your CK3 videos popped up in my feed about a week ago and now I am OBSESSED! You have LIT my passion for this game. It's hard being a woman and playing a game like this for fun. @jillyeon you have done some HEAVY lifting on my spirit. I needed these playthroughs. Thank you. Please never stop being an absolute ICON!

[@Dell-ol6hb]

The key to enjoying these games is to roleplay and just have fun, treat each character you play like its D&D

[@rsync9490]

Choose a raiding culture, stay independent and raid the crap out of your rivals. Any Altaic culture(turkish), Norse, or berber will do..

[@peterlewis2178]

I'm curious what exactly do you mean by "It's hard being a woman and playing a game like this for fun". Do you mean it's hard to play as a woman in the game, or do you mean it's hard to play this as an irl woman? Assuming it's the latter, I'm curious what exactly makes it hard. I really just want to understand your perspective. Do you mean it's hard as in the social environment is difficult, because people judge you for playing a game like this? Or is it something about the game/type of game that you're saying makes it hard? Or something else entirely?

[@jaif7327]

@@peterlewis2178 women cannot manage rts games(ik ck is hybrid lol), i have sisters

[@edsheeranahmet6572]

PREACH 🙏

[@starhalv2427]

I remember experimenting with this game's timeline one time and discoving a three-year window during which you can play a Norman duchy in Anatolia. Fun times.

[@shino4833]

Roussel de Bailleul?

[@logorex]

Lmao that scream when you learned that guy was a eunuch. Straight from your soul.

[@bean9786]

for some reason THIS is the crusader kings content i crave. I completely lose interest in expert ck content, but this confused madwoman trying desperately to seduce everyone while losing every war has me at RAPT attention

[@tburrrg2502]

every day I rewatch your videos and notice you got another thousand subs. Jill I hope you are feeling like a million bucks- your growth is amazing and you deserve it!

[@Acrane_]

Noooo I can't believe I lost this historical stream

[@mysticaldesign858]

youtube algorithm came thru for once by showing me your 100 kids video and i haven’t laughed that hard in ages

[@Ambyr95]

I wish they were longer 😢 I truly enjoy these so much

[@galaxychar]

I’m sad that I’ve finished all your vids about this game now. They’ve genuinely helped me a lot going through a hard time the past couple of days

[@mirandabee2323]

Unironically would love to watch you play Civilization. In my opinion, two of the silliest ways to play are "be Eleanor and take as many cities as possible via her Court of Love ability" and "be Unifier Qin, turn on zombie mode, and use his ability to amass a zombie army."

[@marcduhamel-guitar1985]

I was telling one of my buddies about the drama which is unfolding in my current CK3 playthrough, and he said, "Sounds like a Mexican Soap Opera!" Yep, the Crusader Kings series is actually a medieval Telenovella simulator, as you demonstrate here with your CK2 playthrough.

[@Beorthere]

Niall of the Nine Hostages is an Irish legendary folk hero.

[@S.Gamedev-zc2wp]

Groomed at the age of 16

[@LanderPlasschaert]

You seem to have a thing with popes...

[@warlordofbritannia]

*looks nervously at channel banner* Yeah, wow, so weird, such a weirdo…

[@sunshined7482]

these videos are keeping me sane while preparing for school to come and ruin my life yet again. so thank you

[@jaif7327]

its over bro

[@Pomlithe]

absolutely love it whenever a jill classic drops in my inbox

[@hollyhobgoblin8838]

I have spent an ungodly amount of time on this game, but I still play on the easiest setting and it took me a while when I began to understand how the battle system worked (I would just do everything I could to avoid war and restart whenever a war was declared lol. Good times.) The community does kinda misrepresent this game when they just list the craziest events, because a lot of them are rare and/or take a long time to achieve.

[@peterlewis2178]

Although, if you put both supernatural and absurd events to unrestricted, it's a bit less mis-represented.

[@hengineer]

or at the very least depend on VERY specific circumstances.

[@Manofsheep]

Niall of the nine hostages was an Irish King and legendary figure, his descendents ruled Ireland for Centuries. He is a large character in medieval Irish poetry.

[@emrecanarduc4378]

ck series are just sims with violence multiplied 10x

[@hengineer]

One of the earliest videos I watched was from one of the CK2 goats, about how a good "entry" point into learning the game, was to start out as petty irish noble really early on, because for the most part you get left alone for a long while while you learn about the game mechanics. That being said, maybe I will play a game where I'm not ambitious and we just play a life simulator lol

[@ricardoandre7049]

I do love the amount of positivism in this video.

[@emmanone621]

I've never played this game but I am consuming your content on it at a breakneck pace

[@AugustVonpetersborg]

Yeah, CK2 is a sandbox and CK3 is a powerfantasy simulator. Much more failure and stuff out of your control in CK2.

[@antoniobautista6718]

Great to see how you were able to experience the suffering and extreme fun of CK2! 🤣 I think playing the craziness of CK2 allowed me to have an easier time in CK3.

[@King_Steffon_II]

Thanks for this 🤣 I always play as a man so know seeing the female side of the game explains SO MUCH about the female seductive AIs in the game. Freakin awesome

[@SRMC23]

not surprised someone called "i love horses" would tell her about our lord and savior Glitterhoof.

[@TheActualAnthonino]

Congrats on hitting 5k on YT & 1k on Twitch! Very happy to have found your channel - very cozy. Look forward to more conquests of seduction!

[@TheArchDandy]

The fast horse, faithful dog and an eagle really took me out

[@zenith3180]

you truly are the ck2 player of all time

[@Hugh_Morris]

I still play this game daily, love it so much

[@UnassumingLlama]

I don’t play any of the Crusader games, but this is exactly how I would do it. I’m sticking around for a long time, I like your content 👍

[@Ryan-o1d]

Subbed! this content is so mother.

[@marveludus]

Coming back to this video to tell you I was just about to buy CK3 after watching your earlier stream... and I ALREADY OWN IT. So yeah, apparently Crusader Kings 3 has been sitting in my Steam library for literal years, gathering dust and crying itself to sleep, and you just saved it!

[@sandraisyearning]

I make this comment in memory of The Bodyguard (Byzantine edition)

[@Killerwale-hk4wy]

If you just wanna be a little politician without focussing on war. I found that CK3 with AGoT and some minor extra mods make for super fun intrigue games. Armies tend to be really big but if you're just chilling on an island people mostly just leave you alone. It has better stealth mechanics, is super well made and most wars are Mega Wars anyways. And you never 'have' to join those as a lesser player. Lesser wars are surprisingly rare as crown authority tends to be really high (the technology starts off really advanced). You can just do your little spider playthrough whilst playing tall as the lord of Arbor or something like that. Just for if you ever want to give that one a try. It's an incredibly well made mod and a blast to play.

[@KrazieKanuk]

The best CK2 beginners guide I've ever seen! Now I know how to play! ❤

[@Mathiasbording]

This was amazing! I am so invested in Maras struggles 😂

[@angelicanumes1339]

I accidentally stumbled on your account and have been watching for days so funny 😂

[@Tommydawg-8187]

I had so much fun making Jerusalem and the empire of the otremer

[@meth4163]

it always brings me joy, as a seasoned ck2 player, to see other people suffer with how truly unplayable it can be at times

[@gardenpop]

I'm ngl it took me a couple games to fully understand the game. But, CK3 is genuinely laughably easy. Short of having your main male line wiped out by a plague which has happened to me once in 2k hours, it is a cake walk. I have to limit myself and place restriction after restriction to struggle.

[@muhammadrifqi7308]

My favorite part of ck2 is the absurd events. One of my courtiers is a horse and one of my dukes is a bear. An aunt is a werewolf and my youngest son is a spawn of satan and killed all of his siblings--he later died from dancing plague.

[@mohirender]

Playing as the Byzantines on a first playthrough is crazy hard, even veterans hate the rng of the Byzantines

[@fdeeaa]

Queen Victoria playtrough, you are a queen with many children, you aim to marry all of them to kings and queens, later do the same for all grandchildren

[@Ranger881]

I love this channel

[@calamity916]

I'm so glad the algorithm recommended your videos to me. Their very funny.

[@Lemon_E4]

I have never played a paradox game before and know little to nothing about them, but I love how this channel makes them seem kinda like dating sims with battles and stuff happening in the background

[@rsync9490]

It's also a disease Sim, and a marriage Sim, and a war Sim, and a kidnapping sim(lucifer own), and a murder and torture sim(plots).

[@hengineer]

paradox games are basically visuals on top of giant spreadsheets. crusader kings is version that are specifically about the characters/dynasties and not about the "nation" as a whole. That honestly makes it vastly more interesting to me.

[@TheEpicSimmer]

I just found your videos, and you're so fun to watch! I hope I'm able to catch a stream soon :)

[@elliebeep27]

I love these videos and have no idea how to play CK3 or anything but dying of laughter at your shenanigans

[@theorixlux]

Ck2 is arguably a better game than ck3, but it takes a bit getting used to. Spend 10-15 minutes learning and muscle memory the UI and hotkeys. It will make any future campaign 1,000,000 times easier.

[@theorixlux]

NVM I just got to the rebellion. XD you might need a full blown tutorial on how the game works

[@hengineer]

eh its got quite a few DLC. I'm going to wait a few years for more DLC to come out for CK3 before I think about it. I still really enjoy CK2

[@theorixlux]

@@hengineer that's fair enough. Can't say I especially dislike ck3... Could very well see it being a fun game with a couple dlc's.

[@edsheeranahmet6572]

This video was a joy to watch. I'm honestly surprised you lasted as long as you did as Empress of the Byzantines, they usually kill the first monarch immediately. I promise the game has so much left in store, certified goldmine

[@catu_barca1593]

these videos get me in stitches each time

[@sheamynoce99]

This is true for both ck2 and ck3. They are games that give you all the information up front so its very overwhelming at first but keep on playing you will start process more and more information with each play through!!

[@amadeobordiga8464]

blood of niall of the nine hostages basically means that that guy's my cousin (read: he is literally every irish person). he's also your cousin. you should have married him.

[@Adonnus100]

lmao at the furious clicking on difficulty button

[@DeanorThe13th]

last time I tried going back to CK2, I gave up before remembering how to raise my armies

[@steveng6721]

I remember in my most memorable run i converted the mongols to catholicism because i was unable to get strong enough to fight them, and i was running out of buffer states. They had 80% of the map. Kept marrying into their families, got most of the world. Almost reformed rome but the file crashed

[@hengineer]

lol the very first playthrough I ever had that's how I honestly developed my first empire. married family into royal courts and somehow a few generations later I inherited all of France as a King of Ireland.

[@bernard3303]

This one was so fun to watch ! Hope you do more ck2 in the future, it's really wacky and fun to watch

[@WazirWilly]

When you were playing Byzantines I just KNEW what will happen when you unpause for 0.01 seconds. And lo and behold, I was right. Fucking. Civil. War

[@spookyboi8446]

"My horse, my horse, my wife is a horse" -Pro CK2 players

[@brandonneilsta.teresa3494]

A HORSE! A HORSE! MY KINGDOM FOR A HORSE!

[@roach_is_online]

My queen has returned lets goo

[@BGDemonz]

I always feel awful playing. I just had all my heirs wife's children ... imprisoned. So now only my heirs children will be passed down titles

[@PtolemyJones]

LOL, I tried to play one of these games once, not sure which one, but I was stumped by the tutorial. It told me to put troops on a boat, and go invade a distant island. I got to that island, and could in no way shape or form figure out how to get my troops off the G-D boat! LOL.

[@sammyofseaside]

you should try the "a game of thrones" mod for crusader kings 2 or 3! since house of the dragon is airing rn. would be very appropriate to play a flop targaryen

[@casslane3932]

merchant republics are the most powerful my favourite play style

[@mortache]

>Groomed >Age 16 >hmmmm

[@user-mn4jx4ls5c]

That lock of hair wasn't from his head 💀💀💀

[@iceical]

Another delightful video

[@pim1317]

I remember forming a coven one play through. After one of the ritual events my wife or lover gave birth to the antichrist, who then began murdering my other heirs. CK2 was insane. I love it.

[@gilloo.5673]

You should play Lakeburg Legacies, it's a very cute medieval city builder but a lot of the game revolves around arranging marriages with your subjects!

[@rivive]

i have such confidence that i would be insane at that game with no knowledge

[@a.a677]

I have 600 hours on CK2 and I honestly prefer it to CK3, at least until CK3 has all the features CK2 has, that will not change

[@kiittykiiwii]

14:30 got that 1692 salem mass type beat

[@alicjazawadzka8670]

I relate to you on a spiritual level

[@rockaphett3727]

Had a lot of fun watching your video ngl, only play CK2 (i'm broke >,

[@hengineer]

eh I'll wait until more DLC come out for CK3 and the whole bundle is insanely on sale. That's how I got ck2, lol.

[@rockaphett3727]

@@hengineer i just got it for free idk, after the ck3 free test ended 😅

[@Leverquin]

i needed this so much. thank you. ck2>ck3 forever.

[@marcosrafael6858]

I really, really wanted the Pope thing to work out.

[@beanureeves1787]

amazing vid keep it up!

[@TrabberShir]

This is hilarious, but I don't think it is the game that is a mess.

[@GentlemensClubHolyEdition]

Did you play with all DLC? Gotta get the funny Aztec one, it's really chill and calming :3

[@flpndrox]

Ive played 1000+ hrs of CK2 and Im scared to attempt a Byz playthrough.

[@notamy7]

im glad im not the only having absolutely no freaking idea what im doing in ck2. then my boyfriend plays like a fucking genius and feel so lost lol

[@bigbrother6703]

I find it a lot easier to start as a count in both CK3 and CK2. Lot less stuff to manage and you can learn the game on the way.

[@PhilipWalter-e9t]

Schulist Extension

[@lucakasai2659]

3:08 She should've made those titles so she could control more after surrendering...