Crush 3D Upsets Me

this game parks in handicap spots and doesnt even have a handicap
songs used (in order)
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne - Ginza
Shin Megami Tensei (SNES) - Taida Kai
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne - Shibuya
Crush 3D - Title Theme
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne - Forced Battle
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne - Last Boss Battle Before Transformation
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne - Staff Roll
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne - Level Up
can you tell im into shin megami tensei now

[@spinni2734]

Crush is by far my favorite game of all time an incredibly creative puzzle platformer with lots of personality, yet still have to find a game that captivated me like crush has done. Loved the concept, and became obsessed with the idea of playing this game fully once I discovered on the demo eshop Remember looking at the game on KZbin waiting for the day I could finally get it and finding the psp original wondering why my game looked incredibly different to this one. Someone made a texture pack? Something like that? I didn’t at first and just went along until I found out the psp version. Went to play it and overall even if the 3ds version was the one I grew up with, I still find the psp one to be the better version. The 3ds version felt incredibly rough the edges and overall like a half baked product compared to the original. Like parts of levels now thanks to removed gameplay mechanics feel kinda just incompleted and kinda lame to play on? Like you said the over the frying pan now feels awkward to even get out of the starting position, chunks of levels feel like have no purpose New gameplay physics of course now break the game to now a ridiculous point, to the point that even playing causally one can find them. (I never knew how to beat the 3rd level of nursery legitimately when I played this as a child) and I’m not sure if you can replicate this on the psp version, but someone I managed to rotate a roller over the y axis on the second to last level making it float awkwardly over a switch breaking the level completely who knows if they have broke any other part of the game like this. And my biggest grip with this new take was the overall story. The original presentation aside felt actually incredibly personal, you wanted to knew more about Danny’s past and what actually made him an insomniac, he was actually really relatable as his issues were ones a lot of people could had suffer from allowing the audience to connect with him. This new story feels less involved, even if the stakes overall are higher, the lack of involvement of Danny or the profesor as he just goes in “a journey” Danny goes from “Omg I’m trapped” To “Omg I’m trapped” By the end of the game. And what makes it more frustrating is that this game tackles ideas that with the new setting may be incredibly interesting. (Spoilers for the 3ds end game) I love the idea of giving crush a more involved role in the game as the original she was just a device to move the plot forward with small implications she was an sentient being. But man…what they did with her. 10 year old me actively frowned looking at this machine behave like a fan fic writer teenager and the reason for why she keeps Danny trapped was just confusing. Who’s her loved one? Why’s this machine in love with someone to begin with? Those questions never get answered nor leave to theory’s since there’s literally nothing to even base one on. Aside from one I read that she was talking about psp Danny to which I say….¿Que? And the ending, Ugh that tease of an ending, the original was already a big tease. You were worried about what happened to Danny. Was crush gonna kill him? Repeat the process till she finds a less “stupid” cause for his insomnia? But here? It implies that Danny hasn’t escaped her but even now the doctor is trapped with him as well. Overall if I have to give a plus to crush 3D are the extras. Not only the skins but the concepts you get to see are amazing with descriptions of them, you get to see how crush turned from the dark scenery and slowly morphed into this new look, it’s a fascinating experience. Overall crush 3D is a pretty conflicting product to me. I find it frustrating with everything it removed and basically stripping the original of one of its best aspects. But it’s also a competent product. One anyone can enjoy and have a good time with. (Man sorry for this waaaaaay to long of a comment 🫠)

[@stoic_rose]

MAN i totally forgot to even mention the ending. that upset me SO much when i first saw it, its so flat and boring compared to the original also that glitch you mentioned about the roller sounds REALLY weird, ill need to see if i can replicate it sometime.... to the lab i go! seriously though, this comment rules, the OG crush fan speaks their mind at last

[@hergzcool]

OH CRUSH 3D AS IN CRUSH3D WHICH LOOKS SIMILAR TO THE WORD “CRUSHED” CAUSE 3 LOOKS LIKE E

[@facespkz_osu]

as a half-life 2 beta fan, i can relate all too well with the attraction to the dark and gritty nature of crush for psp

[@stoic_rose]

its a VERY cool style im glad u get it face

[@CherryColaWizard]

I appreciate your use of music from the Shin Megami Tensei games. Some of the grooviest tunes you'll ever hear!

[@stoic_rose]

hell yeah!! ive gotta branch out a bit from smt3's ost though, perhaps next video is gonna get some of If...'s soundtrack :]

[@FloofPuppy]

From what I read, Crush 3D is pretty much an alternate universe version of the PSP version and they reference that somewhere in the ending I think? I dunno, I could never find definitive footage of either games without commentary...

[@stoic_rose]

i think you might be right on that, i seem to recall that being a thing!

[@FloofPuppy]

@@stoic_rose It's honestly weird and compelling to me they would do that .w.

[@dogwithakolibri]

HOLY SHIT I REMEMBER THIS i used to play the demo repeatedly

[@stoic_rose]

YES SAME what a videogame amirite

[@dogwithakolibri]

@@stoic_rose truely!

[@_duckydee]

okay im not even kidding, the reason why i have such a fond spot for crush 3d is because i knew it first. I didn't get a psp until way later, and this is the version i found about first, so in my head i've always gravitated towards it. the original just feels.....off to me after being so used to crush 3d's style for tens of hours, even though i do have a psp and have gotten p far in the original before dropping it again because adhd who knew! seeing as this game is from around 2012, it would put me at 9 years old when i learned about it, there was no way my 9 year old cis ass would look at og crush and think "wow this is a game i am going to background process in my brain for the next 11 years!" never got streetpassed on crush 3d though, i need to one day

[@stoic_rose]

thats a totally valid reason! id imagine that was the reason for the style change in the first place, so that makes sense all things considered

[@seamistseamist]

Never played it but the crushing reminds me of Fez, but much more interesting and with top-down and 3d platformer elements.

[@stoic_rose]

ive been recommended fez quite a few times, i should definitely check it out at some point, it looks awesome

[@crimson406]

As someone who played Crush 3D and had no idea that it was a sequel until clicking on this video, I can confirm with 100% certainty that I have had more fun with Crush 3D than Crush

[@stoic_rose]

huh really ? thats interesting, im curious to know why that is

[@jacobmorris6357]

Bro I played the demo of crush 3D til it ran out of uses as a kid. Had no idea there was a PSP version and I thought it was just some standalone random 3DS game. Years later the hshop allows me to own the full version.

[@ryanfriscia1132]

I am a simple man. I see a video essay on an obscure game from my childhood with SMT music and I'm engaged.

[@Papapaya101]

I found crush with the demo too! Haven't played any of the full games, but thank you for allowing me to finally vicarously experience crush through someone else. Every obscure game should have their own dedicated fan on youtube.

[@stoic_rose]

you are SO right, im doing my best to serve the miniscule crush fandom as best i can

[@Thatchannelcalledsistube]

Back when I first got my 3ds I would play through so many of the little eshop demos and this game always looked interesting. However I never got to play it because I think they weren’t giving it out anymore for some reason?? Not sure why, but honestly having YT recommend me this video has finally put my curiosity for this game to rest. Didn’t even know this was originally a psp game, but damn I might have to give it a proper play through cause the concept alone seems really fun. Great video!

[@satibel]

this may or may not be related, but there was an exploit in it (though I don't think it was ever exploited because it was around the time fusee gelee was released), so I think that's why it was removed.

[@Glitch23Taken]

YIPPEE THE CRUSH 3D VIDEO IS OUT!!!!

[@stoic_rose]

YAYY

[@determinedhero5603]

WOOT the crush 3d video is here

[@dekucake4395]

As someone who only vaguely remembers having this game on their 3ds, not even knowing about the original until now, and forgetting about this niche game for over a decade, this is gonna be an interesting watch...

[@stoic_rose]

hell yeah! :]

[@retrorebootmusic]

Oh so this was that game that pops into my head frequently. I played the demo for this and it's the only instance of Crush I've ever played.

[@kattack8200]

I used to play the eshop demo for this game over and over back when but never could afford to get the full version, but now that you've reminded of it's existence after so long maybe I should just play that PSP version instead lol

[@stoic_rose]

you totes should!!

[@polyhex]

The algorithm has blessed me... I love when people make videos about weird & cool series I've never heard about

[@stoic_rose]

thats what i do best !

[@polyhex]

then I simply have no choice but to Subscribe

[@radiokunio3738]

The final world in crush gave nightmares as a kid, like i throw the games because i was afraid of "demons" have infected it.

[@theREALkrunchy]

what the CRUSH!

[@hecklejack7726]

About the voice acting thing. Another game worth mentioning is Kid Icures Uprising, also a game on the 3Ds that’s fully voice acted.

[@stoic_rose]

oh yeahhh, youre right!! and that was only a month after!

[@johndunlap1143]

LOVE the content, please keep uploading.

[@PSPMan]

Absolutely Goated taste on this channel

[@RenegadeJade]

See, I'm in that camp of people that played the 3DS demo as a kid, only looked at the full version years later, but never knew enough about the game to even realize there was an original version. It only took until this video somehow popping up in my recommended for me to know this. While I always thought the idea of the game was incredibly fascinating and nothing like I'd ever seen, I've always been super bothered by the presentation making it look like just another 3DS shovelware title, the kind you'd see on the eShop for like $2 that barely seems worth your time. So to hear that there's a version that solves that exact issue with far more personality, and near-identical gameplay with **more** mechanics at play, it pretty much guarantees I'll be checking out the PSP original as soon as I can. Hell, I only stopped playing Crush 3D because I got stuck, so the original helping even that just gives me all the more reason to. Suffice to say, this was a very interesting video that I hope more people can see. Also I just love hearing people talk at length about obscure games they love so like shit mate I may have to check out those other Crush videos while I'm at it

[@stoic_rose]

hell yeah!!! :D so glad i can spread the word about this awesome game to more people, i hope you enjoy the psp version!!

[@johannliebert2870]

I'm shocked to see a video about Crush 3D released this year lol.

[@stoic_rose]

its an interesting game to talk about!

[@xedgexlordx2741]

FACTS. this is one of the only games I've ever returned. excited to try out the psp original.

[@stoic_rose]

DAMN thats brutal... returning crush 3d is nuts

[@cerealn00b]

I played the crush 3d demo a good few times as a kid and entirely forgot about this game. I’ll have to give it a shot

[@larval_nema]

i did play the demo of crush3d a very long time ago and i remember it being like barely ok.... but i had no clue the original on psp was even a thing and now i wanna check that one out instead

[@stoic_rose]

you totally should !! :O

[@AJXTHEWALL]

oh my fucking god my sister had this game for her psp when i was like 4 and i've been trying to find this game ever since THANK YOU SO MUCH

[@stoic_rose]

glad i could help!!!!

[@AJXTHEWALL]

@@stoic_rose i remember having nightmares because of this game and how fucking weird it was. it's also really funny how i found this video at half past midnight when i have zero (0) plans of sleeping

[@Kayhotech]

Wait..... theres a psp version. I didn't even know anyone knew of Crush 3d let alone there was another game. I enjoyed the game, but not enough to finish it. I thought it was very interesting mechanically. Wow, this is surreal, especially with the massive change in artstyle.

[@satibel]

I like crush 3d because the demo has an exploit that can crash the console and theoritically be used for an ACE exploit (basically if you fail a level too much it allows you to skip it, and you can skip the last level of the demo like that, which allows you to get an extra level, and if you try that again it tries to load a level that doesn't exist.)

[@stoic_rose]

lol wait really???? thats so funny omg

[@satibel]

@@stoic_rose also the skip level feature should be available in the full game, maybe?

[@jootersblaccat]

A psp exclusive besides those three? Hatsune Miku Project Diva!

[@eletgres519]

i find it funny how the blue pajama skin looks like the smt4 samurais

[@stoic_rose]

omg youre actually right. danny is secretly walter

[@fart7361]

Youre the first person I've ever heard mention Crush. Used to love it when I was a kid, never beat it though. Maybe I should go back and play it

[@typhzilla]

holy shit, crush 3d discussion in 2024!

[@stoic_rose]

you know it!! :D

[@brendanblair64]

I played the demo for this years ago and thought the concept was really cool. I never got around to playing it, but it sounds like I should through the PSP version at some point.

[@stoic_rose]

i cant recommend the psp version enough, it totally rocks :]

[@jojonono2679]

Great video

[@stoic_rose]

grazie :]

[@golderzoa]

another banger!

[@stoic_rose]

thanx gz :]

[@InkInkly]

what psp exclusives can i name? patapon, locoroco and daxter easyyy

[@stoic_rose]

damn you got me there....

[@randomidoit9605]

I remember playing the Crush 3d demo! I should really check out the psp version.

[@stoic_rose]

you should !! the psp version rocks, cannot recommend it enough

[@Toxoplasmosis679]

I remember playing the demo of this game when I was like 9 and I thought it was alright I guess

[@satibel]

psp exclusives off the top of my head (though I did play some of them recently) : steambot battle tounament (actually pretty nice game, but the lack of vertical camera movement and the bad locking makes it quite annoying, especially on the last boss. it's also fairly short and took me an afternoon to finish) dissidia ff Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Portable (I had to search for the exact name because it's a mouthful.) invizimals (that eyetoy-ish game) wild arms (pretty nice trpg)

[@eletgres519]

wow this game seems pretty cool!

[@stoic_rose]

it is !! :D

[@eletgres519]

@@stoic_rose honestly what hooked me was the concept of "crushing" the level to make it 2d to reach a specific area and the really odd cartoon style.

[@nore5888]

SMT music in the background?

[@stoic_rose]

correct! ive been obsessed with the smt3 ost recently and got very carried away putting it in this video

[@cloverlake2599]

crush 4d 2026 release (now with generative ai!)

[@stoic_rose]

no... the curse...

[@mae2941]

good video

[@VibriJoyful]

I guess your hopes were CRUSHED? wait no umm or ummm... Your Crush on Crush was Crushed? ummm uhhh ummm....the quality was Crushed?....uhmmm jokes aside, very cool video!!

[@stoic_rose]

i guess you could say... it was a crush all along

[@golderzoa]

hopefully more Crush Vids in the future!

[@stoic_rose]

for now this is probably the last one ill do, unless some huge revelations come about in the speedrun or (and i highly doubt this one) the devs spot my video and have something to say about it. a girl can dream !

[@golderzoa]

@@stoic_rose fair! i'll miss the crush stuff but i look forward to your other projects

[@gnomegguy69]

Q player spotted Must encourage to self-destruct

[@stoic_rose]

sa3 my beloved

[@alexandreturcotte6411]

[Insert the comparaison with Animal Crossing having less edgy and thus shallower villagers the longuer the series goes on here, or the MCU, or Pokemon rarely taking risk storywise in its main series, or the f*ckin' Simpsons becoming more corporate-frendly overtime with Disney not helping much, idk...] Excellent work. I mainly know Crush because YungJunko talked about it in one of his PSP videos (This one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipPEi2h5eNSdnbM )

[@P1NKPVNK_]

I think crush 3D not having voice acting is probably more of a budget thing because I doubt they would want to put that much money into a game that is a sequel to a fairly obscure PSP title. Assuming it's out of laziness is kind of a bad faith criticism in my opinion

[@stoic_rose]

i did say in the video that it could be a budget thing, although you make a good point, i probs shouldnt have suggested laziness. thats a mistake on my part!

[@Blankult]

Some people be diehard fans of randomass looking games lmao That's awesome though, maybe i'll check that psp game out someday

[@stoic_rose]

what can i say! being a diehard fan of random ass games is my specialty

[@Blankult]

@@stoic_rose It's very relatable. I realised that my comment is as much about you as it is about me lol

[@themutantspacedancer3891]

didn't even mention Work Time Fun when talking about exclusive psp games..... smh..... and uh (Can't think of another exclusive psp game) um

[@stoic_rose]

DAMN IT YOURE RIGHT i cannot believe i forgot wtf. i love wtf that game rules

[@CassiusStelar]

Mega Man Powered Up Mega Man Maverick Hunter X GTA Liberty City Stories GTA Vice Vity Stories I was gonna say Spongebob Yellow Avenger and Burnout Legends but they apparently had downgraded ports for DS

[@stoic_rose]

im pretty sure the gta games got ported to ps2, and while i wont deny the megaman games, they are technically remakes (at least, powered up is. im not actually sure about maverick hunter x since im not super well versed in the x series lol)

[@CassiusStelar]

@@stoic_rose yeah it's a remake of X1 but it changes the story quite a bit to tie in with the Anniversary OVA Day of E

[@real-lacey]

UR SO SILLY

[@Spacewuzard]

Bro it had mgs3

[@stoic_rose]

dont quote me on this but i dont know if snake eater was on psp. unless youre talking about the 3ds in which case yeah it does i will not deny that

[@Spacewuzard]

@@stoic_rose I did mean the 3ds I was at the part where you said they got rid of the voice acting and that was the first thing I thought of (and the psp had metal gear acid 1+2 portable ops and peace walker but never 3 the vita got the HD collection which did have 3)

[@MrDomek98]

You dare say I can't name PSP exclusives... Honestly triggered me, do not ever slander the PSP again, please and thank you. Otherwise interesting video, as a PSP fan I'm always interested when I learn about a game I haven't seen before.

[@stoic_rose]

dude the psp is like my favorite handheld i can slander it all i want

[@pfghhh]

newgrounds flash game lookin ass cutscenes lmao the remake artstyle is SO bad

[@stoic_rose]

IKR ITS SOOOO BAD

[@henri3170]

Absolutely terrible changes. I wonder, do the devs sometimes think about Crush3D and know how hard they fucked it up?

[@FlaccidBenis]

I remember playing the demo version of this game on the 3ds and I was obsessed with it for some odd reason and I couldn’t remember the name of the game for years till now lol