WORST Played Hand in the HISTORY of Poker?

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CrushlivePoker

CrushlivePoker

Күн бұрын

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@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker Жыл бұрын
I just want to say that I really appreciate Roni calling this hand in to discuss. We are all learning and it takes some courage to discuss a certain situation where we know that we could have made better decisions. I signed off on the title and thumb on this one because of the KZbin algorithm (catchy and clicks) but I am very happy to have been able to talk through this rare situation and I hope everyone can learn from it. --Bart
@Eric-tj3tg
@Eric-tj3tg Жыл бұрын
Class comment post here Bart. I was thinking, "poor dude", after hearing the hand with the title. Your comment is honorable, and I appreciate your sensitivity here.
@ianshirreffs5604
@ianshirreffs5604 Жыл бұрын
@CrushlivePoker Agree. It takes courage to expose how you play a hand theoretically incorrectly. We all do it.
@jambreakfast4341
@jambreakfast4341 Жыл бұрын
I’m tearing up. You’re a gem, Bart.
@dilsadmeraler
@dilsadmeraler Жыл бұрын
I will be honest here that’s exactly what I would do and now thanks to Ronnie that I know see what I am not supposed to do and thanks so much Bart for explaining how I should be thinking :)
@Dynamice1337
@Dynamice1337 Жыл бұрын
I assume you communicate with the caller and let them know "KZbin forces me to bag on you, don't take it personally...I don't mean it."
@schnu2u
@schnu2u Жыл бұрын
Bart’s reaction in this one is the best one ever. The pain is legit.
@lisaluckman
@lisaluckman 11 ай бұрын
😂😂yeah i love it, very cool 🎉 Last time hes face showed a very bad stink and now pain like you said hahahaha 😂
@pabis6817
@pabis6817 Жыл бұрын
Yeah this caller is a champ for calling this one in ! We’ve all done something horrendously bad in poker but very few would put it out there as a learning tool. Wow! 😂
@Cryptoshqipeee
@Cryptoshqipeee Жыл бұрын
I've done basically the same thing exept I had AQs, on AAAxx board, villan had KK, got min value 😭
@mitchellcongrove3413
@mitchellcongrove3413 Жыл бұрын
Ooof. That one hurts. Good on my guy for being ballsy enough to call this in and learn from it.
@jameswalker7420
@jameswalker7420 Жыл бұрын
Classic. Guy flops a monster, and tries so hard to be tricky that he tricks himself out of getting any value. Turn is a bet, river is a shove, should've stacked opponent every time.
@coleclark6866
@coleclark6866 Жыл бұрын
respect to the caller
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker Жыл бұрын
+1
@sneakkyz3696
@sneakkyz3696 Жыл бұрын
Yeah we love players like him 😂
@randyschatz5539
@randyschatz5539 Жыл бұрын
We can’t beat this guy up for not getting max value for a flopped straight flush. Super rare occurrence!
@markanderson7833
@markanderson7833 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but no one puts you on a flopped straight flush
@Jermo484
@Jermo484 Жыл бұрын
Depends on villain, but I might check back T9 on the turn just for pot control a bit. What's he calling with when I raise flop and continue on turn that's worse than a straight? Just a good jack, right? That said, obviously hero should have kept betting the turn for the various reasons you said - such a disaster if you check back and he has a J, 88, 77, T9, a flush. The river was definitely odd. He said the guy was playing crazy with garbage like 2/5, but why does that really matter? He's folding 2/5 to any raise. He could fold an 8 to any raise. I don't know if I fully jam because he might be a hero and fold a J, but I'm definitely going bigger than 250.
@KyprosEc
@KyprosEc Жыл бұрын
Yeah I popping to minimum 500 there
@PhilipJReed-db3zc
@PhilipJReed-db3zc Жыл бұрын
Yeah, strictly speaking I disagree with Bart because he could easily be bluffing the Ace or king of diamonds on the river. But those are unlikely to call anyways and don't matter to our analysis.
@sr4087
@sr4087 Жыл бұрын
The voice actor you hired effed up when he goes I thought he had a jack so wanted to extract max value On hands that beats jacks full are quad 8s and straight flush
@relaxationmeditationsleep2934
@relaxationmeditationsleep2934 Жыл бұрын
I would never ever raise this flop with 2 more players in the hand behind me.
@wesch6354
@wesch6354 3 ай бұрын
I actually don't like a jam on the river. It's WAY to polarized. It means you either have Quads, SF, or nothing. If I have a J and my opponent jams for like 5x pot in this spot I'm just laying it down. The one thing I do agree with is hero should have 100% bet the turn. When villain bet calls a raise on the flop it narrows his range significantly. So the J on the turn is a dream card for hero in this spot. I would have bet 3/4 to pot size bet. Then on the river I'm betting a little over pot when villain checks to me. He's probably just calling with JX. But maybe, just maybe he will raise? If he does then I jam hoping he calls expecting a chop.
@waynecarson1780
@waynecarson1780 Жыл бұрын
Great! Now I know what to do the next time I flop a royal flush. Thanks Bart!
@RandySchmitz
@RandySchmitz Жыл бұрын
If it makes you feel any better, I remember 20 years ago when it was only my 1st or 2nd time playing in a casino as I was 19 and had to drive to canada to play at that time, it was $3/6 limit and there was a hand where I had the nut straight on an unpaired board with no flush possibility. On the river it was down to 2 of us and I bet, he raised, I raised, and he raised, I starred at the board and was so nervous I was missing something that I just called. I flipped over my hand and the whole table looked at me like, "Dude, why would you not keep raising." Guy mucked his hand(assuming 2nd nut straight) and I felt pretty embarrassed.
@joeshab123
@joeshab123 Жыл бұрын
I was more shocked by the turn check honestly.
@Gos1234567
@Gos1234567 Жыл бұрын
Flop raise was weird,then turn check was stupid,river small raise madness
@grandpatzer
@grandpatzer Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry Ronnie, I misread my hand and checked back the nuts in position the other night. Let’s both of us try not to make the same mistakes twice my guy
@DLHarv
@DLHarv Жыл бұрын
I actually like the play on all streets. Caller admits he’s a known nit he probably wouldn’t get called for the full shove anyways. I love the min raise plus the greasy +$5. This hand is really hard to get in hold ‘em. Hey maybe missed a couple hundred on the river but I think the way he played it was the only way he was gonna get it all. Opponent was a good player too imo, I’m snap shoving there with a J then I’ll write a country song about it later. He’s gonna get me everytime for a month of Sundays with that play. Great breakdown Bartholomew 🍺
@Gos1234567
@Gos1234567 Жыл бұрын
Noone is folding a house
@jimallinx
@jimallinx Жыл бұрын
OHHHH RONNIE 😭😭😩😩😩
@imonlyheretoarguewithidiots
@imonlyheretoarguewithidiots Жыл бұрын
The last time I missed this much value, it was 2015 and I put $0 into Bitcoin
@JasonG123
@JasonG123 Жыл бұрын
I mean, most certainly can think of soooo many worse plays and stuff like that but none the less, little value with the nuts
@garage13
@garage13 Жыл бұрын
skipped most of the video and laughed hard at ending
@matthewdixon6252
@matthewdixon6252 Жыл бұрын
Bart’s expression is priceless
@MyComedyStore
@MyComedyStore Жыл бұрын
Oh Ronny
@sneakkyz3696
@sneakkyz3696 Жыл бұрын
6 minutes in and i can't handle this. Sheesh 😂
@pokerqAK47
@pokerqAK47 Жыл бұрын
It’s at least $500 river raise
@mallred32
@mallred32 24 күн бұрын
This is bad play, ouch.
@abody499
@abody499 Жыл бұрын
as if he's calling a shove with an 8 😂 Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie sorry Ronnie it's just jealousy here for the situation. the literal jackpot
@tylerslenk8243
@tylerslenk8243 Жыл бұрын
"He reluctantly called" on the river with a J? This caller seems pretty lost. If he took a while to call it was because he was thinking of raising. No1 would ever fold a J there to a 2.5x river raise. No1 is even folding a J to a jam
@CGCareerCentral
@CGCareerCentral Жыл бұрын
True, but tbf the call could be "reluctant" in that he wanted to raise but convinced himself it wasn't optimal.
@tylerslenk8243
@tylerslenk8243 Жыл бұрын
@@CGCareerCentral I guess that's true. The caller just made it sound like he was debating folding.
@losyart
@losyart Жыл бұрын
SO u dont know me lol
@pot_kivach160
@pot_kivach160 Жыл бұрын
the facts that: 1) V was thinking and 2) V did not 3bet - say to me that he might not called the river shove!!
@michaelstephens9852
@michaelstephens9852 Жыл бұрын
Just jam 😂
@JeremyAsher-t3i
@JeremyAsher-t3i Жыл бұрын
i bet ronnie would kick barts ass in a fight
@timmyp34
@timmyp34 Жыл бұрын
I don't see it as worst ever. He didn't get all the money hut he got some. The guy was hesitant to even call the $250, I think he feared quads. The caller got a half decent payout of almost half the guys stack
@brucet.3239
@brucet.3239 Жыл бұрын
Half the guy's stack?? He got $307 out of potentially $1200, that's only 25% of his stack and $900 guaranteed profit left on the table, that's 450bb that he should've 100% gotten paid.
@JohnSmith-nx7zj
@JohnSmith-nx7zj Жыл бұрын
The guy was never folding his Jack if hero had shoved.
@AlbinoMutant
@AlbinoMutant Жыл бұрын
No, I think we can say it was objectively a series of mistakes especially because the caller had the read he needed to play it right..
@timmyp34
@timmyp34 Жыл бұрын
@brucet.3239 I misunderstood, I thought he went $250 beyond the $100, I also thought villain started just over 1g starting. My misread. Furthermore, still, worse than Gold v Farha? Opinion, I guess.
@pot_kivach160
@pot_kivach160 Жыл бұрын
Not the best play, but not the worst, either. Obviously, H was facing a nit, and he took that into the account while betting/raising. V could've losing it to a quad; or even to a straight flush, that's not impossible just because occurs very rarely! lol V might've folded it to a shove - was H estimate and must be respected.
@chevelle1
@chevelle1 Жыл бұрын
Despite the title, everyone of us has played a big hand poorly. This guy seems like a smart, thinking player and will learn a lot from this hand. For everyone that ridiculing him, I’m sure at some point you’ve played a hand just as bad, if not worse. I respect this guy for calling in and wanting to learn from it.
@ant4007
@ant4007 Жыл бұрын
Fax💯💯
@AcrylicGoblin
@AcrylicGoblin Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent hand to call in for discussion. I grossly misplay a few hands every session... happens to the best of us.
@dilsadmeraler
@dilsadmeraler Жыл бұрын
Very true. Bart is not here to teach to pros he is teaching to me who is a mediocre player and at least smart enough to know it 😂😂
@justinleeson6431
@justinleeson6431 Жыл бұрын
Your is mother aren't you? Lmao jk
@hieyeque1
@hieyeque1 Жыл бұрын
This is true, as I told my son, it's not about winning hands, it's about getting paid. It's difficult to get paid sometimes, even with a killer hand - the stars have to align and you have to "play your cards right).
@depalma13
@depalma13 Жыл бұрын
I saw with my own two eyes the worst hand of poker played ever. A guy bets out and gets two callers. The flop is Kd, Jc, Jd. Same guy bets both guys call. Turn is Ad. Guy checks, second guy checks, third guy makes a big bet. Both call. River is the Kh. First guy goes all in, second guy goes all in over the top. Third guy looks at his cards. Shows them to me and the guy next to me and says I guess my flush is no good and mucks. Other two players both had Kings. Me and the other guy where in a complete state of shock. The guy folded Qd 10d.
@overnightdelivery
@overnightdelivery Жыл бұрын
Ouch he was correct to think a flush would not beat a full house but apparently didn't know about straight flushes. 😮
@stephenbeckwith6242
@stephenbeckwith6242 Жыл бұрын
I think when you’re a novice and you flop a straight flush, you tend to get so excited that you just stop thinking clearly. We all learn from our mistakes, and hopefully Roni learned from this.
@lifeiswonderful22
@lifeiswonderful22 Жыл бұрын
The worst played hands are the best learning experience.
@timmyp34
@timmyp34 Жыл бұрын
"That's a pretty good flop" all time Olympic class understatement
@brendonw456
@brendonw456 Жыл бұрын
Fr 😂 The hand can't even be outdrawn. It's the stone cold nuts from the flop forward
@mr.doriangrey3394
@mr.doriangrey3394 Жыл бұрын
Lol he was so focused on getting paid he didn’t consider trying to get max value instead
@anthonysteen56
@anthonysteen56 Жыл бұрын
Big bet poker is an exponential function game so getting max value is the only way to get paid
@brickcitybeatdown
@brickcitybeatdown 2 ай бұрын
Get off your damn high horse 🤡
@beansalad3785
@beansalad3785 Жыл бұрын
12:52 “Ohhhh Ronnie” the pain in Bart’s voice
@MsHehehohohaha
@MsHehehohohaha Жыл бұрын
"The jackpot-symbols are coming up in my eyes" 😂🥰
@TheManInTheMasks
@TheManInTheMasks Жыл бұрын
Bart is 100% right on this one. If you get called only half the time here, you still shove on the River compared to basically a min raise.
@KyprosEc
@KyprosEc Жыл бұрын
Bart love your videos. What i have noticed is that your strong suit(to me) is explaining how to get max value.
@Dynamice1337
@Dynamice1337 Жыл бұрын
Max value is the demarcation line between winning and losing players. I see lots of players who know how to avoid getting coolered, but in doing so they rarely make serious money with their very strong hands, they lose small and win even smaller.
@wuyuetfung7026
@wuyuetfung7026 Жыл бұрын
He knows his opponents too well that he forgot the right way to play Poker…
@brickcitybeatdown
@brickcitybeatdown 2 ай бұрын
Because my statement is so much more effective with ..........
@AlbinoMutant
@AlbinoMutant Жыл бұрын
Most players don't get a ton of experience playing super nutted hands and few people really study how to play them since how hard can it be? It all seems sort of obvious from a distance. So I'm not super surprised the caller had no idea how to get value from a flopped straight flush. I'm still a little surprised ,though.
@mrhumble2937
@mrhumble2937 Жыл бұрын
Imo turn was even a bigger mistake. Just gave away 1k.
@majorleagueblackjack27
@majorleagueblackjack27 Жыл бұрын
I laughed my ASS OFF at that river raise. EVEN IF HES BLUFFING, He won't call a min raise. But if he has a jack he will call literally anything. Wow. Why on earth? At that point you are only praying for him to re raise. And if he has a jack, he will just assume you are chopping so he will probably only call. Wow I am playing in the wrong games. You just gave up hours and hours and hours worth of e v
@joshuapatrick682
@joshuapatrick682 3 ай бұрын
Roni admitted he was a tight player and kind of proved it by saying he’s checking back a flush on the turn because the board paired. It’s the thought trap that got us all in lower stakes games about “monsters in the closet” but when you think through the hand this is actually a great card because you smashed the board and unblock all his Jx from continuing. Will he fold the Q-A of diamonds if you bet? Maybe, but I still think you can bet because what if he gas AJ with the A of diamonds or KJ with the K of diamonds? Is he ever folding to like a 1/3-2/3 pot size bet on the turn?
@jamsteroffthewheel4731
@jamsteroffthewheel4731 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me why not to call bets from super nits that only bet for value
@dfag2311
@dfag2311 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes Bart is too hard on the callers and too nitpicky. Sometimes you can tell a player has a decent poker understanding/philosophy but just mismanaged a hand. From every line this guy said it just kept getting worse and worse. I cannot believe this guy would sit down in a game with $1k. Either he loses every session, or his friends are just as horrible as him.
@qazzaqstan
@qazzaqstan Жыл бұрын
I do wonder if with history villain folds to a jam here. It is close to a 2.5x raise if hero is the type to literally never try to buff someone off the chop here and villain knows that it could actually lead to some folds. That said even if they tank and fold a J occasionally you still need to jam just because they aren't going to be twice as likely to call a $500 bet.
@captzachevil
@captzachevil Жыл бұрын
Definitely one of those lesson hands where we learn the difference between playing our own hand and taking villian's hands into account.
@Seaton1518
@Seaton1518 Жыл бұрын
Worst played hand ever 🤢🤮
@aggibson74
@aggibson74 Жыл бұрын
When you win, but still value own yourself.
@Dylan-vm4gl
@Dylan-vm4gl Жыл бұрын
This is definitely a keep it simple shove stupid kind of hand. Same thing on the turn, keep it simple bet. Such a fantastic turn card to keep betting. Never folding a J never folding a flush always raising a boat
@buggaboo2707
@buggaboo2707 Жыл бұрын
9:45 that's when I say ( if I am this guy )... "I think we are spitting this one,... I'm all in"
@PhilipJReed-db3zc
@PhilipJReed-db3zc Жыл бұрын
I like your idea. Mumbling "Just in case..." is probably a little more believable.
@skelthouser2730
@skelthouser2730 Жыл бұрын
Title should read, "Villain plays opponent to perfection and loses the minimum on a trap hand." Caller said his opponent was a good player. Him not re-raising on the end tells me villain had a perfect read on our hero.
@eklypzn
@eklypzn Жыл бұрын
I got a little sick when he said $250. My stomach did a flip.
@willh4340
@willh4340 Жыл бұрын
He says that he played it wrong on the river, but I think he played it wrong since the turn! Either bet small to look like a protection bet, or large to make it look bluffy, but either way, the turn is a 100% of the time bet! I like going a little larger for 2 reasons. 1. It puts more money in the pot to try and set up a river shove, which is hard to do 400bb deep, and 2. If he wanted to try and bluff the river, he would have to it more in, because there is more money in the pot to bluff at! So, the $100 river bet would have had to be $250-400 if he would have wanted to bluff, instead of thinking he could buy it with only $100. Of course, he's thinking about Vegas and the Mirage and you STILL screwed it up
@TOM-C.
@TOM-C. Жыл бұрын
WOW, this was played badly by both players! The hero should've shoved, and the cutoff should have shoved. I would have shoved with the nut full. Extremely odd that a very aggressive player doesn't shove a nut full house. He must have been afraid of that straight flush or possible quads? Kudos to the cutoff for not shoving! 👍😎✌🗽
@jamsteroffthewheel4731
@jamsteroffthewheel4731 Жыл бұрын
The fact this guy considered folding a jack showed this caller must have been playing horribly before this hand as well
@lagunkaz
@lagunkaz Жыл бұрын
We don't know that he was considering a fold. He could've been tanking to decide if a reraise was appropriate.
@falseheadgossip1700
@falseheadgossip1700 Жыл бұрын
i mean he made 2 decisions during the hand which were at least defendable and it’s a fairly niche spot, that alone puts it far from the worst hand ever played imo - at least caller was receptive to advice despite getting dogpiled which seems like a good sign to me!
@jamsteroffthewheel4731
@jamsteroffthewheel4731 Жыл бұрын
@@lagunkaz ur right, it should be very obvious not to raise with a jack there but it’s possible he was thinking that
@jamsteroffthewheel4731
@jamsteroffthewheel4731 Жыл бұрын
@@falseheadgossip1700 yup being willing to learn is the most important thing, the title is clickbait but it is a dreadfully bad hand because if you can’t stack your opponent in that spot, then you’re just never stacking, and never making money in poker
@DTR1LL
@DTR1LL Жыл бұрын
That’s why poker is a learning process. Getting better each and every time is the goal. And once you think you’re the best, go to play a WSOP main event 😂
@ryanlisterman1864
@ryanlisterman1864 Жыл бұрын
The caller should get a solver and work on his game, he seemed so focused on inconsequential facts because he's trying to level his opponents. If he just cleared his mind and focused on playing. Sound poker he'd make more in that game.
@PhilipJReed-db3zc
@PhilipJReed-db3zc Жыл бұрын
I'm curious what facts you think are inconsequential. You might be vastly overrating the importance of solver analysis for a 1-2 home game. Exploiting casual opponents when you play with them all the time is the whole ballgame. This isn't the lineup from Bellagio $50-100 here.
@williamraney3421
@williamraney3421 Жыл бұрын
Be nice. Guy’s trying to get better
@piggy4651
@piggy4651 3 ай бұрын
The hero seems very TIGHT and PASSIVE and the whole table knows it. The fact that the villain tanked at the end and "reluctantly called" makes me think the hero would never raise here without quads or straight flush. If he jammed maybe villain wouldn't have called even with a jack. Also think about it, theyre playing thousands deep but 1-2 with no straddle???? a thousand dollar shove is ONLY the mega nuts in that configuration. Another thing to think of. Let's say hero had a Jack instead of straight flush. Would he jam in this spot too? Does villain think he would jam in this spot with a Jack? I honestly don't know. If not, then jamming just tells your opponent: "I have straight flush or quads".
@timmyp34
@timmyp34 Жыл бұрын
Furthermore, how is this worse than Jamie Gold shoving KK when the universe knew he was going into AA?
@thomasrichardson-ev1wp
@thomasrichardson-ev1wp 2 ай бұрын
In a 1-2 game at Mandalay Bay I flopped a royal spade flush. I checked flop checked Kd turn checked river Qh. Said I have to get something out of this hand bet $35 villain went all in for $300. I said I guess i have to call and turned over Royal Also collected $500 for high hand.
@chrisbaines5152
@chrisbaines5152 Жыл бұрын
Caller has a family Bart
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker Жыл бұрын
haha what does this mean
@CudleWudles52
@CudleWudles52 Жыл бұрын
@@CrushlivePoker That you murdered him.
@pot_kivach160
@pot_kivach160 Жыл бұрын
don't think it's the worst play ever. H was wondering if V has an 8, which would not call the shove on this kind of board. I wouldn't. And, the way the hand is played, it's possible for V to have an 8. It's $1/2, and not $5/10 or $10/20. . Taking opponent's profile out of hand context while making decision - is always a mistake and taxing! The guy was a nit. Just see that he called river raise with top full house?? No 3-Bet?? So, he might've even folded a top boat to a shove! I wouldn't be surprised if he had.
@DanielSong39
@DanielSong39 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of Vanessa Selbst vs Pralaud Friedman, hard to play a hand worse than that
@Dynamic0NE
@Dynamic0NE Жыл бұрын
This dude making the call in is lostttttt. He was NOT playing with a 1200 dollar stack I promise you. Ive played with fat stacks at 2/5 and there's no wayyy he would be playing this style at that level. Not to msntion 1/2 tabkes are like max like 300 buy ins uaually. So the odds that this insane hand happened with 2 guys with 1200 or more are slim to none. Im super smart and amazing with psychology snd id say there's a 97 percent chance hes fibbing about some of the details which makes the story burf. Not to mention not knowing how to play on every street.
@Str8upbrah
@Str8upbrah Жыл бұрын
You say a Jack is calling 100% of the time, but what are you repping by your jam when you 5x pot? If you have a jack then what will call that's worse? Bart, if you have a jack how do you play river? Unless you're trying to put bluffs in your range and if that's the case you dint need to jam that much since you're saying a jack calls 100%.
@johnmaynard3463
@johnmaynard3463 3 ай бұрын
Title is absurd. I 100% shove here, because its profitable even if he only has a Jack like 40% of the time. Still...it was one bad too small raise. The rest of the hand was fine. To say it is even remotely close to the worst played hand ever...just stop with the clickbait ba
@California_Poker
@California_Poker Жыл бұрын
I think Ronnie if you re reading this, you re too concerned about short term results, I base that on you saying you just wanted to get paid. So you raise ridiculously small. Think long term, if you shove and he folds an 8, so be it, you lose the $150 call but if he has that Jack, you re getting paid off large and long term, you can make up that $150 up much more quickly than that $1,000 missed value.
@shteebo
@shteebo Жыл бұрын
Big pots are for big hands, and vice-versa. As soon as the turn pairs, I would throw out any line that doesn't have me getting all-in. In fact, against typical players, I'd throw those lines out on the flop. Caller seems to feel he has no chance of opponents calling when he shoves (wrong here obviously), but even if he was right that suggests a serious problem with his ranges. If your opponents have nothing to call with, you've lost little, and can show your straight-flush and bank some meta-game bluffing cred. I can barely imagine how painful it must have been to see opponent's J at showdown...OUCH.
@Smile-uwokeup-2day
@Smile-uwokeup-2day Жыл бұрын
Did this guy made chive in not going in all on his diamond flush ? Would his opponent keep going or flod ?. Now that he didn’t go all in might be his big mistake here . When dude saw two jacks n 8 . He was not going to fold . When dude with diamond saw two jacks n two 8s da jig is up . I would have go all in with diamond flush . Or even with one Jack n one 8 go all in but that dude with da jacks before last Jack he would not flod anyways . Ahh poker is all about choices to make in da game . I lost a POCKET AA TO 2/6 on da river n could get one Ace at all . I kept betting big n all way in n then dude shows his 2/6. Am like really
@colintimp1372
@colintimp1372 Жыл бұрын
I'm extremely confused. First he says there's 3 players to the flop; then there's 4. Then he said only the cutoff calls his check-raise; but then he said it checked around 3 ways on the turn? Anyway, I don't like this play 4 handed in a single raised pot. There's just more value to be had by just calling the bet on the flop and keeping the other players in the hand. Their ranges are going to have a lot of pair-plus here. Heads up I think fast playing may be better overall. Checking the turn is terrible. You've already shown a ton of strength check-raising the flop 4 ways. Now checking the turn on the board pair makes it pretty obvious you have a monster hand. Once you've fast-played the flop I think you're better off on the turn making a big bet to make it look like you're trying to prevent your opponent from getting there.
@BlackFaceTrudeau
@BlackFaceTrudeau Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen HUNDREDS of hands that were played more poorly. The dynamic was vilain is raising with any 2, so hero knowing that kinda wanted to look like a steal with min raise. Anyway, I think against any other player Roni is shoving but against that specific player he tries something else. You are very disingenuous to call that "the worst hand ever played"
@justinleeson6431
@justinleeson6431 Жыл бұрын
If I am in Villian shoes, if I bet 100 on river and get over bet shoved on the river for over 1K more when the pot is only a $237 I am going to fold Jx when I get shoved on. Calling 900 more to win only half of $237 is an annoying but correct fold when you are only ever chopping at best. I would be putting my opponent on either quad 8s, straight flush, or Jx. If I get blown off of half of such a small pot so be it. Not the end of the world at all.
@charlespalmer8741
@charlespalmer8741 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if a jack calls a shove for $1100 when they only have 150 in the pot. As played, I'd probably raise to $700. However, a turn bet makes it an ez shove and call
@ericzhang6063
@ericzhang6063 Жыл бұрын
bruh a jack is literally only losing to a straight flush on the river. no one is folding a jack
@noex100
@noex100 Жыл бұрын
​@ericzhang6063 It definitely loses to more than just a straight flush and it would definitely be a bad call against a shove.
@NO--BS.
@NO--BS. Жыл бұрын
The great thing is, this only happens to you once. 😌
@mikeluka5225
@mikeluka5225 7 ай бұрын
He did say it’s the same group of guys playing together for 2 years. Might’ve know shoving would scare him away. Should’ve just made it bigger
@jpickett0812
@jpickett0812 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if JJ folds a river shove. I know the answer is no. Villain beats 88 but do 88 clicks back flop and check the turn… the hand was played so weird and it’s live poker so it’s a call but there’s zero bluffs there and only thing hero has is 88 or 10 9 diamonds.
@stevenundisclosed6091
@stevenundisclosed6091 Жыл бұрын
Where does this caller live? I want to slap him for not betting the turn. Edit: double smack after hearing the river bet size.
@nattybumppo4151
@nattybumppo4151 Жыл бұрын
The battle of the 2 tightest players in the history of poker.
@NKKK19
@NKKK19 Жыл бұрын
Bart, do you not think people can find a fold with Jx here as villain when you shove $900 over $100 OTR? Because at best, they’re chopping.
@davidgilbert1073
@davidgilbert1073 Жыл бұрын
What a catastrophe! I agree that we have all played big hands poorly, but this has to be a shove. This guy at least has the 8, but it is much more likely that he has the J. Even if he has the 8 there is some chance of a call. The J is a 100% call. Brutal. This is the winning hand equivalent of taking a bad beat for several buyins! It’s a win that is probably worse than a huge loss.
@upbreaker7055
@upbreaker7055 Жыл бұрын
No need to get so tricky at 1/2 this dude needs to wake up in the morning, grab his coffee, eat a little breakfast. Then repeat after Bart. "Value , value, value, value ,value." X99.
@bjbarlowe
@bjbarlowe 3 ай бұрын
It’s especially rough because he said the villain is very proud. He said he’d never fold to a small raise on the flop because of a macho mentality. If that’s his mental state, he’d never fold to a shove on the river in case he was pushed off a chop.
@Kassadin10
@Kassadin10 Жыл бұрын
If I flop straight flush in my local poker room in Vietnam, I win a huge jackpot... Waiting for it to happen to me :D
@abcdefg54321x
@abcdefg54321x Жыл бұрын
I wanna play with Roni🤑
@karlmuckit2968
@karlmuckit2968 Жыл бұрын
Please, who would put him on a straight flush, flush yes. But with a double paired board. YOU GOTTA SHIP IT.
@Mark-rw3kw
@Mark-rw3kw Жыл бұрын
Way too much complicated analysis of this hand. The rule is that if on the river, if one has the absolute nuts (based on cards on the board and in your hand) you can check (if not last to act) to another player (especially if they have been aggressive), but you can never call as last person to act if you have the absolute nuts. In fact, in some places you can get kicked out due to suspected collusion if you are last to act and don't raise with the absolute nuts.
@jacobgoldman5780
@jacobgoldman5780 Жыл бұрын
A jam does seem like a lot I was thinking more like 700 or something but yes 250 is way too small.
@EllieBanks333
@EllieBanks333 Жыл бұрын
If the callers description of villain river tank is accurate; I wonder if he might fold to a jam? Caller did say villain knows to him to a very tight player. Villain would have $155 invested & be facing over $1,000 to call.
@patrick_kyker
@patrick_kyker Жыл бұрын
Fancy play syndrome. if you were bluffing the flop and the jack comes on the turn you would keep bluffing. so you need to bet with your good hands.
@Mossy5150
@Mossy5150 Ай бұрын
Ronnie needs a break from poker KZbin, shits in his head. Great call, appreciate the candor.
@sean9448
@sean9448 3 ай бұрын
Always jam at the river n low stakes when you have the nuts. Most of these players are emotional and don't think like pros.
@PositiveVibesVids
@PositiveVibesVids Жыл бұрын
Doesn't Straight flush beat quads? Damn this has to be one of the worst played hands of all Time lol
@chrisdunn3423
@chrisdunn3423 Жыл бұрын
Two fiftyyyyyyyyy???? 😂😂😂
@maximp629
@maximp629 Жыл бұрын
dont understand Bart steaming here, i would´nt be suprised if hero bets 2$ on the turn and something like 5.50$ on the river
@n8style
@n8style Жыл бұрын
If villain tanked that long with a Jack, sounds like hero is too tight and needs to mix some bluffs in to get some value for his good hands in cases just like this
@predwards8941
@predwards8941 Жыл бұрын
OH MY GAWD RAHNY!
@andreasapelqvist9247
@andreasapelqvist9247 Жыл бұрын
Impressive by co to only call the raise on the river. I wouldve pushed with the j and lost all my stack.
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