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[@nuklearwinter2892]

SB having J2dd makes the most sense

[@theadventuresofslim3057]

I'm raising the flop because it's the only street where we definitely have the best hand unless a 2,6,7,8 or 9 rolls off. Never put it past a limper to be in there with 53 or 43, get it HU vs a hand that you know has connected with the flop and the later streets will be easy for you.

[@BradSevigny]

I think this is something to examine. It’s definitely been a barrier for me in my Poker journey. Wanting to make the game tree easier to navigate is not the same thing as improving, or even playing better. He did raise the flop, however reasons are all that really matter in this game. And the real difference between players is the quality of their reasons. I think important questions to ask yourself if you want to improve, is what does your range look like in this spot? If you raise flop, in a multi way pot, do you have any bluffs? Do you need to have bluffs? Why or why not? What hands are you targeting in your opponents range that can continue? How prevalent are they in their range (how often do you expect folds)? Does your opponent(S) have any bluffs? What does their range look like in terms of value to bluff ratio? Is there range simply linear (they don’t have bluffs, just varying degrees of strength)? Or are they playing way to many hands? How accurate is your heuristic of measuring these things in real time? And then finally, look into the best bet sizes to accomplish your game plan. You have to know how you are generating EV, not how you will win the hand. I think if you pay attention to how Bart is thinking through these spots rather than his end product decision or evaluation, you will be much better served. This degree of analysis is very different from, limpers ranges are wide, and that means they can improve on a lot of cards. I don’t want to get sucked out on. I will bet. You get the same decision of raising, but only one of these thought processes has a shot of navigating to the highest EV position in the game tree. I think if you simply spend time thinking about these questions on various textures and scenarios, it will open up this game for you in a way that making future decisions easier will never do. There are tons of resources out there. I’m just another lost poker soul trying to learn this brutally hard, but beautiful game. I’m certainly not where I want to be yet, and I’m not in a position to tell anyone how to play. But I am in the weeds studying, and working hard on improving everyday. The real danger to growth is trying to protect our selves from feeling uncomfortable. Growth is uncomfortable. Embrace the swings, embrace the grind, embrace difficult decisions. Best of luck out there!

[@MrSkarybaker]

I think he had QT or TT and was making a play. Probably had hero on Ax and thought he could push him out when the second J hit. He would have shoved the river if it had been anything but an A

[@michaelmoody935]

I see why you loved this hand! Great call Bart

[@DanJPall]

I played at Mohegan once. I enjoyed it even though it was during the covid era. MGM Springfield Is actually closer to me even though I’m in CT.

[@JMTavares7]

I think maybe $400 can get Jx to fold but with Zeebo issues I like to go a lot more, also J2 we'd have a very hard time getting out for the same reasons people are more likely to call with a low flush on a 4-flush board if they already had the flush on the 3-flush board. $400 is ok against Asian/Euro's , $850 against American rec's

[@TheGuyCalledX]

The problem still is the bigger you go, the more money you just punt off to Ax. How many Jx can villain realistically have that you're trying to steal equity from?

[@oldterry9476]

good advice on deciding how much to buy in for

[@jonathangraber3628]

luv the vids....keep em coming...i thought Bart moved to TX...now i hear him talking about playing the north east coast....how many houses u got Bart

[@brianradant2885]

The button almost certainly folded an ace as well. Leaves 2 combos of AJ. If he only checks half the time it seems just as likely that he had j2. Plus, how often is he completing with AJ instead of raising preflop?

[@fanfan7848]

Quite often in a fishy live game

[@tippychips574]

Nice call in. Happy Independence Day Bart and all you dgens

[@lilwoozyvert3635]

Maybe A7 or A6 of spades could get to the river as played for the SB? Picking up the BD flush draw? So yes, I definitely wouldn’t shove as hero. Awesome call. Thanks, Bart and well played, Caller.

[@azncooler97]

Wdym? Any Ace would’ve called because it’s the nuts. It’s more likely SB has Jx imo.

[@lilwoozyvert3635]

⁠@@azncooler97 yes, but I was trying to say what hands get to the river as played with an ace in it.

[@Mase1up]

I used to play at Foxwoods because the Sun was still shut down from the whole scandal. At the time people FREAKED about Foxwoods charging $5/30 minutes time, lol. Everyone wanted rake because they wanted to fold all day for free. Once the Sun got their poker room back I went to check it out and never played at Foxwoods again. Highly recommended.

[@colintimp1372]

This reminds me of a hand I played years ago, in $8/16 limit. I was the SB with 22. UTG raised, 4 callers, I call and BB 3-bets. Button 4 bets, BB caps at 5. We go 7 ways to flop of Jc6h2h. I check BB bets, UTG raises, everyone else calls and I 3 bet, UTG 4 bets, I cap, and we wind up 6 ways to the turn of Jh. I bet, BB calls, UTG raises, all others call, I 3 bet and all call. River Qs. I bet and now BB raises, and still ALL call. I know I'm beat by exactly QQ, but the pot is insane. I call. BB does have QQ. The amazing part was one player has Ah10h, another has KhQh, one guy has AJ off, and the other has KJ. So I only had to dodge 2 aces, 2 kings, one queen and the remaining sixes; but obviously a 6 on the river is an easy fold.

[@qazzaqstan]

I'd probably give up on the river because I just think they have more than twice as much AX as JX between AJ and AXss, but it is certainly a cool bluff when it works. The other weird thing is 22 is one of the worst possible bluff candidates in terms of blockers but I don't know how else we'd get to the river with a hand with 0 showdown value.

[@Optable]

100% asked him if he had an ace😂

[@Hotobu]

The way I think about raising SB here is will I make the same money from raising SB that I would from callers behind? In this case with 5 people behind I think the answer is no.

[@davidsasse40]

Could have had king q or 10 of spades for a combo draw on the turn.

[@datsumcrzysht]

Was thinking…the perfect flop would be A, J, 2 rainbow and voila! My random card predictions being so on point lately hasn’t been good for my superstition driven need to go play poker.

[@Jermo484]

Mohegan is so much better than Foxwoods - better dealers by a mile, more exciting games and way fewer nits. The 2/5 game is also absurdly good. Literally just Saturday a regular opened UTG with Q7o and called a 5x 3 bet without even thinking.

[@ahaaha8462]

2/5 super soft! for real!

[@joewhite9475]

Foxwoods is strictly for plo for most people haha NL games are nitty as fuck

[@Jermo484]

@@joewhite9475 for a few weeks, MS had a pretty regular 2/5 PLO game. But it seems to have died sadly. I wish we could get a 2/2 PLO game at either place ever.

[@Trust_but_Verify]

14:52 SB has a spade draw? QK of spade (but he wouldn't need to tank at river)? Why did he raise here?

[@R0BACE]

KQ or K10 of spade makes the most sense

[@kristijanknezevic2389]

@@R0BACE why are any of these bet/calling flop 7 ways & then check raising turn when getting a really, really good price?

[@P0kerB0b]

You could get a Foxwoods OMC to fold a Jack there. I’d play more at Mohegan if the place wasn’t such a freezer.

[@EllieBanks333]

Bart did *not* lie! This hand is fascinating. It's the greatest flop for 22 ever & the absolute worst runout. Hero played this very well I think. I must admit that I probably don't find that river bluff, gotta work on that. Weird that chat was saying jam on this river. On the other hand; if I did find this bluff, I'd probably go a tad larger. Maybe $500. This ending was weird also; villain claims no jack, but obviously did not fold an ace. What could he possibly have had?

[@fanfan7848]

He lied

[@TheGuyCalledX]

Something like KQss or KTss isn't outside the realm of possibility. Tanking despite knowing they have to fold

[@Sp33dyBeanz]

@@TheGuyCalledX thats exactly what i thought. and that for some reason they were thinking of hero calling with K high kicker lmao. it had to be a suited spade hand the way it played. if he admitted to not having a jack i just dont see what else it could have been

[@Sp33dyBeanz]

@@TheGuyCalledX K10 suited makes the most sense to limp

[@colintimp1372]

You NEVER want to go big on this river; because the opponent could very well play an ace this way. Especially A2. Put yourself in the opponent's shoes and look at the hand. The board is AJ2JA. If you have A2, and you bet, your opponent is either folding, calling with an A (and you chop) or raising JJ. So checking is actually a prudent move by the opponent. Going big gets a fold from hands that will fold to a lesser bet anyway; and you get snapped off by an ace.

[@andrewlange1886]

The Chasers mixed game is great

[@derreck1825]

I played a hand just like this i had set of fours. Honestly didnt consider turning my i believe flop ace 10 4. Turn ten , river ace similar action villan checks i check he showed kks...... I was shocked. Honestly i can see villan plaing kks or qqs at this stake this way.

[@davidsasse40]

What about ace x of spades. Might lead the flop and picked up a flush draw on the turn.

[@fanfan7848]

Asxs is not raising turn

[@beatingu8347]

Brilliantly played

[@jimmymac4016]

Finally a hand review at one of my home casinos. Mohegans better than Foxwoods for sure

[@coreyfranco7060]

Last time i play at Mohegan it was computer tables. I lived in RI but moved to las vegas 3 years ago...

[@EllieBanks333]

Question for comments section; On this 7 handed limped flop, 1st to act bets pot & 2nd to act calls. How much of a nit am I, if I fold A6? I know hero actually raised, but in that case I don't think folding a weak ace is nitty at all.

[@thedealermusic]

Ask yourself: How do you think your hand will improve? Answer: unless a 6 comes - and even then you might be dead to 22, AJo that didn’t bet, + all Ax higher than A6

[@jacobbirkenfeld9261]

The wonder of it all

[@andrewlange1886]

The action at Foxwoods wasn’t great when I was there

[@mdg4347]

Obviously the ace on the river is a cooler, but preflop having already say a hundred hundred and ten in, a bet or a raise to almost pot would have gotten calls from ace x, ten jack so on.

[@manifestyourlife6]

Folding jacks full seems criminal there if that's true lol.

[@Badbentham]

I mean: If he had J2s, then he loses to every A2 and AJ, while beating (probably) a single combo of 22 that might bluff, or even extremely creative and equally unlikely stuff like KQ/KT/QT of Spades . - Of course, the 4 combos of A2 should not really be there after the Jack counterfeiting them on the Turn; - but who knows?! Given the pot odds, I might consider: "When in doubt, coinflip it out. " in Villain's shoes, though.

[@Jackyjr24]

Literally should be thrown in jail lol

[@bradleyhines604]

I'm surprised it worked. Does the hero's line make any sense? What Ace would he ever have that takes this line besides AJ which the villain is probably blocking?

[@gabrielrockman]

Could the villain be check-raising with A-X of spades on the turn? I think it's much safer to bluff if you know the villain is never playing A-X of spades this way, but I'm not sure that we can conclude that.

[@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511]

obv he didn't have an ace

[@AT-bw4cm]

Ax isn’t leading flop into a field unless it’s 2 pair after limping pre flop. 100% he had J2. Hero should have folded on the turn to the click back. It’s easier to narrow an opponent’s range earlier in a hand when it’s multi-way.

[@fanfan7848]

​@@AT-bw4cmagree

[@gabrielrockman]

@@AT-bw4cm I'm a nit, but I'd be happy leading into the field with a pair of Aces in a limped pot. If I block top pair, the chances of someone else having two pair or a set aren't that good, and if it's not a draw heavy board, it's probably going to check through. There's nothing wrong with betting when you have the best hand, and it's very likely going to check through. It's ridiculous to assume that anyone leading in a limped pot has two pair+ on the flop.

[@AT-bw4cm]

@@gabrielrockman Betting 1st to act into 6 players with a marginal hand isn’t very smart.

[@mvg7113]

What a hand

[@maxlee5515]

I may be wrong but... When villain gets to the river with an Ace he MUST bet to get value because a Jack will check behind. Therefore, Villian does NOT have an Ace, so a bluff is good here. Am I missing anything?

[@mrhumble2937]

Only at turn. I'd be more worrier about J2 then AJ. That's a hand a small blind could limp with.

[@mrhumble2937]

That's why I hate limp pots. Can have any 2 random cards.

[@speakinfaxonly21]

I agree. I thought the single combo of J2 suited was significantly more prevalent than the 6 combos of AJ that are left. Very very slim chance SB limps AJ when it limps to him

[@fanfan7848]

​@@speakinfaxonly21SB can have J2o or limp with AJ

[@davidberger7170]

Could he have AsTs or QsTs? Raise small on combo draw

[@ashtonfronsoe45]

I was thinking q10ss too but just such an odd c/r on turn. Either that or j2dd for me even tho caller said he didn’t have a j. Whole hand threw me for a loop. V obviously calling with a10 btw

[@TOM-C.]

I think he had pocket k's, Q's, or 10's. Probably 10's, and personally, I would have just checked back on the river as he's only calling if he has the A, and maybe the J. I doubt, for me, a $400 bet will drive me off my Jacks full. Also, you run the risk of being raised which will likely cause you to fold.👍😎✌🗽

[@sr4087]

@12:02 acejack full house incoming

[@matthewmille]

If the villain is a good player, an all-in could look more bluffy and could be more likely to be called than something smaller like $800-$1000.

[@sr4087]

@4:40 roasted Andy

[@johnnyboychess]

Definitely KQ.

[@ZeraLord]

Loved this analysis, but this was the absolute grossest runout for our fullhouse :(

[@ts4gv]

hey hero still took it down

[@ZeraLord]

@@ts4gv No disagreement :). We were handed a gift when V checked. Even a blocker bet, I am feeling sick to my stomache.

[@alextjock6655]

Could villain have seen 80 turn bet as weak? Just c/r as a stab at pot then never put a penny more in?

[@MattWilky96]

I see this online so often it’s not even funny. Not hard to think it translates to live

[@Dylan-vm4gl]

Nice hand. Should have less AJ than the possible combos after checking river. Still could have AJ. Nice efficient bet. Glad he folded 🥵

[@sr4087]

Jack Duece is my favorite hand; not trolling

[@leorubio5653]

14 min in and what I'm a bit confused is are the players that bad in that part of the country that sb and button possibly would limp? I guess where I'm coming from is that here in Vegas in 1/3 and 2/5 it's becoming a lot less common seeing folks limp an AJ hand from the B or SB. I still see it don't get me wrong but just considerably less than just a couple years ago or even a year ago. Am I off here? U just seem confident AJ is a descant possibility where I think it's not as likely I guess and against a descant amount of players def not likely at all imo but I aint no Bart Hanson. hahaha ;)

[@andrewkim6037]

Gnarly hand.

[@robert2375]

by raising the flop, you tell the SB you don't have an ace (only A2 would play this way) what ace u can have that didn't raise pre but is now raising flop 7 ways, 2nd to act. So opponent should call your river bluff... assuming they don't have K high or a random pocket pair that got here some way.

[@fanfan7848]

Hero is telling he didn't raise AJ preflop

[@lordtraxx4217]

Calling is 1000% better than raising on the flop here. It’s not even close

[@mrhumble2937]

Fun hand. He had a J

[@mdg4347]

If the caller had made it say five x preflop, which is way too little to drive out everybody, he would have somewhat easier known where he stood postflop.

[@andrewthomas3707]

KJ, QJ diamonds could play this way

[@WillPage]

What a runout - was thinking the whole time, imagine another A river. Played a 4k pot other day w/ 22 on 10 8 2 flop. All the money goes in and my op has JJ. The turn and river were both 8's.

[@TheFantasyTyRant]

I bet the villain had KsTs

[@Sp33dyBeanz]

should have re raise turn to like 400-500

[@warrenbuffet6126]

Haha nothing funnier than when a limp pot gains steam and people start getting jacked up for a limp pit. The real reason that nobody raises in this guys spot is because everyone will groan and call you a bitch hahah

[@modestomouso1234]

I think players are generally bad enough at these stakes to take this line with Jx (I’m only on the turn x/r fwiw, but wanted to post comment before hand reveal). I think in theory we call a ton on most rivers, but live low stakes cash players boggle my mind, as an online tourney player I just find these HHs utterly baffling most of the time 😂 Edit: okay, literally worst river imageable lol. SB doesn’t have many bluffs here, extremely Ax/Jx heavy. River seems like an EZ x back. If we get raised we hate life. Just finished video, betting 22 here IP OTR seems… not great. Wouldn’t SB be inclined to x and let hero bluff at this when they’re nutted? Betting as SB makes no sense (with a boat) bc what are you ever getting called by other than an occasional chop? Hero kinda accidentally took a line that always seems like Ax when V obv has Jx, and got a pretty big fold from better.

[@blue4life175]

The guy probably had kings

[@ride1123]

2s and 3s win more when playing 8 and 9 handed. Don't ask me why it's just math. 2s and 3s are technically below average hands 6 handed. I guess because these hands pretty much only win by set mining so you want bigger pots/more players putting in upfront. I'm sure I'll get torn up for this comment. You can literally look up how often certain hands will win in pots with x amount of other players, and then you see that in certain situations 2s and 3s are not good.

[@williaminnes1563]

I was like #420!

[@fanfan7848]

The guy has J2 for sure

[@WillPage]

He could have KQ or K10ss

[@VanellaSchnellaDACRU]

Probably JX dd wyoming bravaho nevada, jabba the slut, two aces in the hut like what the fuck, it’s crazy poker, get buckled up, when the QoS hits the river it’s cuckold stuff, man screams from the muffled muff, he just got showed the bluff

[@Stockholm_Syndrome]

The problem is that idiots don't think like geniuses. I think SB hade a pair, like 33-77?

[@steveblah5]

17:07 "my boat's getting smaller and smaller..." Actually, his boat improved to 2's full of aces... Easy shove

[@joncorb540]

And where do you play, sir? 😬

[@EllieBanks333]

@@joncorb540 LMAO!

[@trdi]

I don't believe that he had a J. He would have called, there is no way this is a fold. The bet was not that big.

[@EllieBanks333]

As played; what hand does a jack beat? I only see 22. Seems like a jack on the river is either splitting or losing.

[@robert2375]

why would u ever want to drive other players out with an implied odds hand like 22's....

[@mdg4347]

Now, anyone could have anything. And your pot on the flop is small.

[@dmcg1917]

Charge in New Zealand: Reekless driving causing grievous bodily harm. 2-8 years prison time loss of license.