When Jamming with Pocket ACES Is a MISTAKE!

[@CrushlivePoker]

When a jam is correct and when it is not is explained at 15:04

[@sameman945]

Well said and analysis from Bart. 👏 👏 👏

[@patrick_kyker]

Bart just get done directing air traffic?

[@rotatoe]

🤣🤣🤣

[@theguy025674]

Even worse… he likes the Pats

[@rotatoe]

@@theguy025674 pats are irrelevant now, but we still hate them like we hate the chiefs and Yankees

[@vincentolmos2263]

Striped suspenders

[@skelorbonor]

Bart got done speed walking with his senior club

[@charlieleung2776]

I just love how surprised/shocked Bart sounds when caller makes suboptimal play. Gawd knows what he would say if I called in with some of my stupid moves!

[@noex100]

Only hands hero beats that can even THINK about calling the river jam are KJ and KT, and personally, I think villain folds those hands against a pot-sized jam 75% of the time given how strong hero looks. Meanwhile, villain is snapping with ANY Qx of hearts, of which he has all of them, even Q2hh. And he probably has some partials of both AQ and JT. So the river jam is pretty darn bad. This is a clear check-fold.

[@qlow5956]

My first instinct was to jam on that river. These breakdowns are why I keep watching. Thanks, Bart!

[@McDonaldReagan]

Why would you do that

[@qlow5956]

@McDonaldReagan why would I thank Bart for breaking down a better alternative than my initial reaction? I guess because I'm here to learn, and his suggestion to block-bet makes more sense than what I would've done, so I'm giving him credit for improving my game.

[@kamnovak5268]

at lower levels all this overthinking seems unnecessary unless you are practicing for higher level games. caller even says the guy cracked his aces with T6. AND he forgot his hand by the river

[@chiubakka]

lmao you had me fixing my new headset for 5 mins before i realized it was the video's issue

[@TheDjcarter1966]

Before reveal...Bart laid it out EVERYTHING that beats you he is calling all J,10 all Qs. You are literally only trying to get K to think you are bluffing...just classic falling in love with As

[@mikesadlermusic1]

Love your content, hope your side gig as a crossing guard works out

[@glaubs65]

I think the caller still doesn't get it. A king is not gonna call a jam mate. Hardly ever. Unless they think you are a big bluffer.

[@noThankyou-g5c]

it was really funny listening to him talk like he’s a very serious and intelligent poker player but kept saying dumb shit in that confident voice. like how he raised too big preflop etc.

[@Fred-rg5vw]

I agree. He was pretty much just trying to convince himself he played it ideally. Wasn't really listening to bart.

[@PurpleLions]

If I knew my opponent had a K, I’d never jam into them so I don’t think that’s true. Not in LA at least.

[@JasonM-vm7ou]

One of your best explained calls ever, Bart. Thank you very much

[@lowlimitcashgamespodcast]

I think many basis were glazed over or not even mentioned in this hand. 1. Large bets funnel your opponents into have very good hands. Even bad players. 2. Very big hands that aren’t draws will mostly raise off this flop because of the crazy draw heavy nature of this board 3. The range of hands that are strong that call very large bets crops multiple streets are combo draws. Now admittedly this guy claims he didn’t know he had a pair and a flush draw. I’m inclined to not believe this is true. I think he just said that. But pair plus flush draws. Gutshots plus flush draws. Those are the main hands that continue for pot across every street. These bets on every street were too large. His range is mostly straights that missed the flush draw. Or pairs plus flush draw that tripped up. Betting pot into 3 opponents on this board doesn’t make any sense theoretically or exploitatively. Love this content. And the calls. And hands. And barts take as always. I just think some fundamental things weren’t talked about

[@mrhumble2937]

People making mistakes tryinh to listen to barts thin value

[@alistairwillock7266]

Here at 14:15 (before the river action) to say that on the river, I'd be happy bet-folding all the way up to 200. Villain really feels like the kind of loose-passive player that you can happily fold to an aggressive action, but who will also pay you off with AK, KJ, KT, K9, K8, and who can arrive at the river with _all_ combos of those hands. That T6o hand that the hero ran into earlier tells you a lot about how wide the villain is.

[@AT-bw4cm]

If he's playing 106o, think of all the hands he misses or loses when he has 2nd or 3rd pair. Is he really going to fold any K on the river?

[@noex100]

​@AT-bw4cm Yes, villain is folding a king on the river, unless it's AK, which he should almost never have.

[@chowjoshua11]

With block betting 200 it is 390 more to call the shove, don’t you just get priced in to call? I can’t see bet folding to be optimal

[@geoffnolan1053]

Your intro is only playing out of my left speaker, just FYI! Love the content and have learned a lot, thank you.

[@Stockhandle123]

This is a very easy block bet on the river fold to raise. I like the way the hero played the flop and the turn bit you need to raise more pre-flop.

[@pot_kivach160]

why betting? Targeting what? KJ only. Do you know V is holding KJ?

[@Stockhandle123]

@ lots of kings not just kj

[@ohExploitss]

Jam on the river is just setting yourself up to get stacked MAJORITY of the time. Realistically the only type of hands that can call you are KJ, K10 and even then would they call for that amount ? All QhXh combos get there and so does J10 on the turn but would probably see more raises on the turn than not.

[@AT-bw4cm]

Hero probably doesn't have less than AK on the river with the jam for value. Then it doesn't matter if villain calls with KJ, K2, or 1010 if he thinks hero is likely bluffing.

[@ohExploitss]

@@AT-bw4cmexactly but with hero’s sizing on the river he’s only going to get better hands to call him, all hands top of villains range that he gets there with that i mentioned. I’m just saying with his specific hand and runout i would never jam there. Like bart said check fold or small block bet.

[@AT-bw4cm]

@@ohExploitss I'm not so sure when a villian plays 106o. If you say villain only plays offsuit K that can make a straight plus all suited, then he has 33 combos (K9+). Then add all other K suited hands is 21 combos (K2-K8). That's 54 combos not counting any AK that might raise preflop. Add 1/4 because he's passive and that's 58 combos. Hero loses to: 6 combos of KQ. 16 combos of J10. 3 combos of 88 and 10 combos of Qx hearts. That's 35 combos. There's more big hands on this side that will raise before the river like J10 and 88 which reduces the combos. Perhaps if your image is very tight you might start to fold out too many K in villain's range but I like to err on the side of value when villain is this wide.

[@ohExploitss]

@@AT-bw4cm i never once said villian only plays K offsuit hands. I’m saying KJ and K10 suited or not is put into consideration more rather than K with smaller kickers. Obviously he’s loose so he can have more Kx hands in his range. And obviously there’s a tons of hands that villian ends with here that crush hero. Once again i’m saying for the jam on hero’s part a large percent of villains hands are going to call and crush him.

[@ohExploitss]

@@AT-bw4cm If hero wants to get get value from those Kx hands he should be betting small IF he thinks villian will call with those particular hands which isn’t much compared to his value hands such as J10 or Qx hands. KQ combos hands would’ve raised before the river

[@nuklearwinter2892]

QJ, JT, and random Qx suited are such common limp call hands that this guys range is those or Kx by the river. He would check back all Kx so yeah it’s a check fold on the river.

[@noThankyou-g5c]

i mean he potted flop 5 ways and if i remember correctly potted the turn right? i think lots of sets arent raising, theyre in position and he’s already setting up a 1:1 spr for them. if he checks a later street they can just bet

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

It’s a draw heavy board so sets are incentivised to raise.

[@noThankyou-g5c]

@ generally sure if hero bet smaller or was heads up, but after pot into 5 people, then pot again? not saying no set is ever raising but you’re definitely going to see sets trapping at a non negible frequency. especially in a $1/$3 game where the player pool is especially passive

[@moneymikz]

I don’t think there’s enough K X to call a jam and lots that beats you

[@qazzaqstan]

Yeah you are basically counting on them having things like K5s in range and them never folding a K on river. It is especially ugly if they have any JTo in range.

[@justinhart7172]

Let’s be honest here, was there any doubt at any point that hero was gonna jam river

[@MikeTidman]

QhXh is like 40% of villain range on flop imho. JT is another 15%

[@dang7716]

Didn’t know Bart was a part time highway worker

[@kenengel620]

I would have jammed the turn.

[@gabrielrockman]

Would Q8 or 88 raise before the river?

[@justsurrealist1533]

I probably would

[@cryptolocc6200]

You see Jesse had a problem..... Iykyk lol

[@therealjackwhite1523]

Dude is betting way too large with one pair at low stakes on all streets. Im folding KJ here 100% of the time on the turn and river. Only value he gets on the turn is Qxh, and that beats him on the river.

[@alistairwillock7266]

Except that the villain called his first two bets with Q7hh. This is _why_ you get to go big on this board against this player population: the villain is making _huge_ mistakes at this stack depth, and you want to maximize the size of those mistakes so you can extract the most value. I might have sized down to 160-180 on the turn, but otherwise I think hero's only mistake was jamming the river instead of betting 1/3 pot or less.

[@pot_kivach160]

@@alistairwillock7266 Too many Vs make the same mistakes: overcalling with no pot odds. However, how they stay in the business is they got paid huge when they hit!! So: main thing here is: charge a V as much as you can, HOWEVER, don't pay them off when they hit! This is not easy at all, as requires good hand reading skills, which most of Low stakes players have next to none. (this H included). . I disagree with betting river at all. No stronger hand would fold- no weaker hand would've called. It's a check and then evaluate depending on V profile and betting size. (again: good hand READING skills required here).

[@diiselix]

what's the red white thing on your shirt?

[@DocTight]

Mono audio on a stereo track in the intro? ;)

[@hullhealersboatworksrestor4377]

This all could have been avoided by properly opening to 30$-35$ from SB.

[@pot_kivach160]

NO!...and again: NOOOOOOO in a small stakes table. Proof: last week,$2/5 game, I, EP, (A6d) r to $30, 2 callers (Q4d included)!? They NEVER, ever fold suited broadway card regardless of kicker! Not even a middle suited cards. . Now, just read further pls,...Flop ($100): K3d5s. I c-bet $45, Q4d snap called! (the other V called, too). Turn ($235) was a 2h...I checked, Q4d bets $35 (WTF?!), the other V called, I called. River: ($340) Ax, he rivered a straight?! ...I checked, he bets $100. The other V fold. Now, you're welcome to jump in my seat and act.

[@patrick_kyker]

I just don't think you can get called by a king now so now you have no value.

[@cryptolocc6200]

We've been getting alot of calls from KC lately. Harrahs and Hollywood. If alot of these guys are watching Bart then our player pool is getting better 😢

[@karlinchina]

It's so tilting when they have us destroyed and still tank for 45 seconds. Some players will also tank for a minute or more with JT in that spot because they're worried about a boat.

[@mikey22355]

This guy can’t answer a question about anything he’s done wrong.

[@jacktrades2327]

I like the Queen on the river, it cancels out potential 2 pair hands.

[@pot_kivach160]

river (at 11:40): 1) I'd checked. Now, depending on V profile and bet size, I might fold. If bet size is midway (40-60%), then I fold it (value bet). Any under or overbet, is a call. (will see what actions come). . I don't see how betting this river scary would've benefit H. I don't see which weaker hand would've called? And if V missed (flush draw) other than bluffing, he is not going to call anything anyway. _Will come back with a reply after the hand reveal._

[@pot_kivach160]

H jams...and loses it! (All comments I provided above).

[@TomRauhe]

he has very few Queens on the river, I agree.

[@ParisDorn159]

What a terribly played hand. This is why you check flop OOP multiway

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

So you can let hands like second pair with a flush draw catch up for free?

[@pot_kivach160]

flop is a C-bet. If you checked every time in a multiway, you're going nowhere.

[@imonoke7903]

Dont say villain. Its toxic

[@justsurrealist1533]

Antiheros from now on

[@wirmerflagge999]

after thinking about it?