I thought the twist was going to be that Bart was the villain until I realized it was too small stakes. Has anyone ever done that, called in a hand he played against Bart?
@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511 Жыл бұрын
good question haha
@Petty-Cash Жыл бұрын
I was expecting the same, or maybe for this just to be a retelling of a hand Bart had played on stream or something
@frankberger3507 Жыл бұрын
Freeroll! He should have pushed all in since there are two jacks of spades in the deck, so on showdown hands are dead.
@rcadegaming9123 Жыл бұрын
this comment fucked my perception of the video, i was waiting the entire video for him to mention the deck was fked
@davidculhane4388 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@jamesstevenson3116 Жыл бұрын
I had two jack of spades come on the flop at my place before and they played out the rest of the hand before fixing the deck
@adi_LDN Жыл бұрын
how are there two jack of spades
@MrTjthorso Жыл бұрын
I LOVE this line by the caller. Almost every live player should and would fold AJ here. And that's because KQo is in literally every players range except the opener. If a player is calling AJ here, they need to be a thinking player and know that "vill" is a thinking player.
@seslocrit9365 Жыл бұрын
UTG is way too loose. Also flatting a UTG raise with a +1 caller with KJ is insane. You are in terrible shape against AJ, AK and KQ. Not to mention allowing the straddle and BB to draw. This just shows how preflop mistakes can compound. But I got to give it to hero, I dont know if I could make that call with AJ.
@jeremyhahn3612 Жыл бұрын
KJ suited is reasonable to call here with lots of nut making potential and you have good stack depth and position.
@seslocrit9365 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremyhahn3612 , not with a +1 flatter; you are drawing to the second nut flush and a straight-the +1 flatter is full of dominating hands like the ones I listed. That is not a hand you want in a multiway pot even in position. If you are going to play that hand you should 3bet or fold there to clear up equities.
@joshmullins4849 Жыл бұрын
I think you’re insane for calling it insane. Talk about your hyperbole…
@martinst-pierre6620 Жыл бұрын
At this depth, I’m pretty sure KJs is a pure vpip on the button while KQo should mostly fold. We could even throw in a squeeze with KJs especially when we know UTG to have AJo / KQo and SCs in his range.
@terracottapie Жыл бұрын
Mucking second pair before seeing the opponent's cards is just plain insanity. Yeah, I know the odds you're good are extremely slim, but they're not 0.0%, and there's literally no upside to mucking. What are people thinking.
@bryanjohnson8162 Жыл бұрын
I think I see this all the time in smaller stakes as soon as people start looking like they are shutting down opponents start getting aggressive
@Jermo484 Жыл бұрын
Yep, if you fire a c-bet as a bluff at small stakes, you better double or triple barrel it. The vast majority of times I continue and then check turn, they take that as a green flag to fire away. I don't think they understand that plenty of solid hands are 2 street hands.
@supersmoo7377 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Also, Try checking back some good hands on the flop and you get even better results, against players who see the green light to bluff hard.
@johnathanreynolds1108 Жыл бұрын
@@supersmoo7377This, so effective at pissing them off especially when you have the nuts! I love check calling down to the river and raising all in to get a call only to find out they have been played
@Victor.David.Fernandez Жыл бұрын
Love it when there's two J of spades in the deck
@lance862 Жыл бұрын
I've been playing with PokerSnowie and those double pot bets come out in certain spots... specifically when you can have the nuts and your opponent can't but you've got a weak draw like a gut shot or you actually do have that nut hand and the pot is still small but your opponent doesn't have it in their range either so you put that doubt in there that you're bluffing just because they acted weak like in the other example.
@1312Mork2 Жыл бұрын
Nah
@goshgolly8305 Жыл бұрын
The bookshelf background was better in the last video can you change it?
@mbkincaid1 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the flop is a mandatory bet because players will call with any 2 broadway cards
@Rich_Newell_ Жыл бұрын
Wasn't this hand uploaded a couple months ago or so?
@revbenball Жыл бұрын
did no one in the live comments mention the two Js'?
@vballlslife Жыл бұрын
Why is check raising the flop a bad move? There’s fold equity and value if they’re holding a Q or K with a pair
@pauloconnell2238 Жыл бұрын
KQ is the nuts and you could be drawing really slim
@vballlslife Жыл бұрын
Not KQ K or Q with a pair KJ QJ K10 Q10
@intrepidus3378 Жыл бұрын
Just mucked his hand? I mean, yeah - it's not likely that he's good here. But second pair top kicker isn't worthless. He can be getting looked up by smaller jacks a very small percentage of the time. That's the nature of polarized bets. I feel like calling with top 2 is really not "that" much different than calling with QJdd. edit: started making this comment before Bart asked about it. I think Bart just was done with the call. It's not impossible for the caller's hand to be good here.
@PTfan54 Жыл бұрын
I think both players played this hand equally well, I just can't decide if that means they both played it terribly or not.
@ilovebrandnewcarpets Жыл бұрын
Yah I agree. I’ll vote for terrible for hero
@EllieBanks333 Жыл бұрын
What hand does hero[actual hero] get to the river with here? Maybe AT, and then better. What hand is villain[actual] repping on river? It's KQ or nothing right? I thought over-bet sizing on river was terrible. It put hero in a position where he's either losing to KQ or winning. I'm never buying TT here. I'm inclined to believe the caller did this "reverse" call in so that Bart would tell him his opponent *should* have folded.
@MrBms53 Жыл бұрын
I am the caller, I was expecting that when I submitted the hand. But I realized later that he should have called. And for the record I would play TT and JJ this way at least some of the time. I might not always flat flop but as played I would overbet turn and river since opponent is capped. With TT and JJ specifically I think that I am ahead of all of his possible holdings other than a strangely played AA.
@1vailchris Жыл бұрын
@@MrBms53 FWIW, I'm also a local Philly reg. I split my time between Parx and Rivers. Never played 1/3/6, but played a ton of 1/2 and 1/3 over the last 20-ish years. So, respectfully submitted (and after reading some of the other comments here, criticizing your play)... I can see 3B'ing pre from the BTN, but also flatting with KJhh. Which way I go depends on the table dynamics. I think floating the flop is fine, if you think you can outplay your opponents on later streets. Your turn bet is debatable. Against loose/passive opponents prone to slow-playing, I might just check-back to realize my equity. I understand starting a semi-bluff on turn when you pick up the flush draw, but unless the turn is the 7 or 8 of hearts, that could have conceivably completed a flopped OESD for Q9 or 98, you're probably not getting enough folds, even when you over-bet pot. Your over-bet wasn't even that much. Maybe it would have worked if you went even bigger, like 1.5x pot. That might convince me you flopped a straight and want to charge flush draws to see the river. When your turn bet gets called here, a lot of players are planning to call down on any non-heart river. I think the real issue is your river jam. I get all the theory and logic, the blocker effects, etc. The problem is that your play requires opponents who called your turn over-bet to lay down what looks to be a "real" hand when nothing's changed on the river. Your turn bet was repping KQ. If UTG called turn, he might have KQ himself, but at the very least, it doesn't seem like he's going to lay down a set, top 2, or whatever he has.Your KJhh combo is actually blocking some of UTG's folding range. Even though big river bets are supposed to be polarizing, I think a lot of low stakes players just see them as bluffy, and are more likely to hero call. Against the local player pool, it's surprising how often big river bets get called but small bets get folds. All that said - your jam would have gotten me to fold AJ, if I played AJ the way UTG did, unless I had you pegged as a maniac.
@borknagarpopinga4089 Жыл бұрын
He seriously called while driving? :D :D
@dan22482 Жыл бұрын
When thinking about MDF shouldn’t your hands be ranked based on their equity vs villain’s range instead of the pure hand ranking? For example in this hand I’d think AK has more equity than AJ since villain is representing KQ or nothing? So for MDF, AK is the best hand that you get here with, not AJ.
@1312Mork2 Жыл бұрын
Yes ure right. In a river spot you dont value your hand by absolute handstrength rather what properties the hands have in form of blocking his value and unblocking bluffs. So if you only arrive here with AJ and AK you would fold aj and call AK (simplified example but you get what i mean)
@Mr.Muckington Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing caller and Bart were folding AK turn on the overbet maybe... or they just calling AK AQ and AJ. Heck I'd call a10 in this exact spot even
@jackbittker4249 Жыл бұрын
Good bluff but if you just realize equity in general instead of bluffing in a live setting you will print
@jeremyhahn3612 Жыл бұрын
I've seen way too many people play passively with nutted hands at low stakes to make wild bluffs like this. No, it's not correct, but if you have any sort of bluffing frequency people will tend towards letting you blast off and calling thinking they're outplaying you. At low stakes poker, absolute hand sttength trumps relative hand strength.
@jackbittker4249 Жыл бұрын
Get there -> get paid. Balance is out the window
@brianfloyd2279 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremyhahn3612im playing in a right now where a guy limped in the hi Jack over two limps, I raise the button with two 10s to 15, he raises to 60 with two queens...weird. Then a few hands later there are eight limps and bb checks, A J 9 rainbow, bb leads out 20, gets two callers, bb bets 75 on turn gets one caller, then bb moves in on the river after it has blanked off and bb wins with JJ versus J9s. One of the first hands I played was button straddled for 10, I raise to 25 with 56s, cutoff and button call. Flop comes 4 7 Q rainbow, I bet 25, two callers, J on the turn, I check, cutoff leads for 75 button calls I call, river comes a K, I move in for 130, button thr9ws his hand in out of turn, cutoff thinks for about 2 minutes and says "I just hope u got AK, calls and shows AA. I've seen several players limp with AK, AQ, and AJ. So I agree with these comments! Hard to play actual poker when players limp and call raises with big hands in all positions.
@EllieBanks333 Жыл бұрын
Terrible bluff
@brianfloyd2279 Жыл бұрын
@@EllieBanks333 I never said it was, nor did I say I was a player! 😂 But if u knew the opponent u'd prolly have done the same thing. Maybe. Prolly. Possibly not. He'll who knows. Ur probably better than the legend Bart Hanson, I dunno. I just know he is a weak tight player and I can't win by checking.
@Llamabets Жыл бұрын
Bro is a menace
@1vailchris Жыл бұрын
If BTN had KQ, he might raise flop sometimes. If he just flats flop, he's probably going bigger with his turn bet when the BDFD appears. I doubt BTN is just flatting pre with JJ, and probably not TT, and it's unlikely sets are going to 2x jam river after the turn over-bet gets called. Hard to believe BTN has a hand as strong as the one he's repping, but even so, if I got here with AJ and BTN 2x ripped it in, I think I'd find the fold more easily than the call.
@MrBms53 Жыл бұрын
I definitely have partials of JJ and TT here, the only pure raises in my range are QQ+ and AK. The UTG range is too strong and the UTG+1 could be flatting a hand as strong as QQ. Solvers don't love having QQ against UTG because it blocks the weaker portion of the raising range, and I know players in this game are at least aware of this.
@1vailchris Жыл бұрын
@@MrBms53 Like I said in my other comment, I don't play 1/3/6, so you probably know the player pool better than I do. At 1/3, most players aren't studying charts. They'll open wider UTG, and over-call wider. JJ/TT are usually going to be 3B's from the BTN in the games I play. Still, I do see some opponents who'll smooth call JJ/TT in this spot, and even some better hands sometimes, but those players are typically raising flop with a set. If one of my opponents slow-played the flop with JJ/TT, I'd expect a bigger bet on the turn, and probably a check-back or smaller size bet on the river, simply because most 1/3 players are going to think UTG has AA or KQ, the way this was played. If I was UTG, I'd have c-bet this flop, barreled turn, and probably block-bet river. As BTN, I'd probably just check-back turn, but occasionally I might stab at it with KJhh, but for a large size, like 1.5x pot, then give up if I don't river the flush or a straight. I respect your courage to rip it in, but I think all my player friends would tell me it was a massive punt if I did that.
@fowlerjr3983 Жыл бұрын
Thought for sure with title was a hand Bart actually played against someone and lost
@ilovebrandnewcarpets Жыл бұрын
“ I don’t think Aj needs as much protection” on AJ10? Completely disagree there
@khangbob Жыл бұрын
I wonder how long he tanks
@Light-kc6ln Жыл бұрын
only black friday deal im taking. thank you bart 🖤
@robw9963 Жыл бұрын
I thought the twist was going to be that Brad didn't catch he entered two differen't J♤.
@pot_kivach160 Жыл бұрын
5:40 you shoyldve folded flop bet! What if some people have a drawing hands and they take a stab at ya??! 😂 it could be dangerous, man!
@calebkoeller9586 Жыл бұрын
He should've folded top 2?
@pot_kivach160 Жыл бұрын
@@calebkoeller9586 ...read my comment between the lines, if you wanna see real meaning. Hint: that emoji smiley.. .See 3:18
@alishaheedmohammad Жыл бұрын
Bart hanson is the goat. I respect him alot
@NorCal_Poker Жыл бұрын
Gotta respect goin for gold!
@Jesters_Thorny_Crown Жыл бұрын
He bet too big. It looked blurffy.
@youtubelife92489 ай бұрын
Aj checks because it’s scary?? lol get me in this game
@MrEnginears Жыл бұрын
haha, i called it :D KhJh Look out, DNegs ;)
@pot_kivach160 Жыл бұрын
Classic example of how somebody's cardinal mistake induces his opponent to misread his hand and make a wrong decision!
@huckleberryfinn8795 Жыл бұрын
Spoiler shield 🛡
@bestestname6757 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't see kq potting turn. Seems fishy af.
@MrBms53 Жыл бұрын
I am the caller, I am definitely potting KQ on the turn. There is way too many strong hands in (both!) opponent's ranges that have to call this bet, and then in this case would have to fold river.
@bestestname6757 Жыл бұрын
@@MrBms53 lol I get your side. But from hero side or idk villain side in your case. After full pot turn then 2x jam if I remember right. The alarm bells go off. Now I like it better with qq or kk. It's not PLO HAHA. Great call though. Just as long as you do this with KQ to balance this, then I'm sure your hard to play against.
@MrBms53 Жыл бұрын
@@bestestname6757 I definitely have partials of KQ and TT-JJ here. In reality I could only have KQs and not KQo but from the villian's POV I definitely could have all 16 KQ combos going to the flop. And I think I flat most KQ I have on the flop looking for overcalls, hoping to raise and play for stacks on turn against either or both opponents. I like to think that I jam TT here as well recognizing that the opponent is capped, and I definitely jam with JJ.