Want to DOMINATE Live Poker? Avoid This Common Mistake

[@CrushlivePoker]

Villian tanked for 10 minutes!? Do you think there was a better line to win this hand?

[@glaubs65]

I can't see any way of winning this hand. I'd love to hear of one.

[@henryng9584]

If hero shoved on the turn he might have a chance

[@JeffreyHaefner]

@@CrushlivePoker yea, fold on flop.

[@Trust_but_Verify]

Would call clock after 3 minutes help him to fold? He probably saw OP stopped breathing for 10 minutes and recognized it's a bluff.

[@royalflush8173]

I like how Bart analyzes these hands it really helps you think about the differnt sencerios you can encounter. These videos are a weslth.of information as well as entertaining

[@tipsy09]

As I was watching the video I did put KK in the guys range given the turn action. I originally put him on 44 JT QQ AJ KJ I disregarded JJ and TT But after the turn action and especially the tank call, I put him only on QQ AJ KJ and also surmised he could have KK also The tank call on the turn is a massive tell I’ve seen this line with KK and QQ so many times online I think the best line, ESPECIALLY being new to the table and guys “won’t think you would bet AA after villain puts money in the pot twice”, would be to check back the turn and bet $600 on the river. That’s a line that fish and Gen pop have seen with AA all the time Continue flop, check turn, value bet river especially when the board pairs the lower card

[@qlow5956]

100% check back. V broadcast to the world that he was a fish with a monster who didn't know how to bet/raise properly but also had no fold button. H lost the minimum on turn, then max on river.

[@NorthValley88]

Why did the KK hand allowed five handed players into the pre-flop?

[@PhilipJReed-db3zc]

Because live players sometimes make terrible slowplays.

[@akhileshanandh2073]

They're scared to put more money in pre-flop in case the flop has an A in it. I've seen many players cold-call 3-bets with KK and then bet big (donk if they're out of position) if the flop doesn't have an A in it.

[@davidm5417]

so he can stack someone, which worked out. with a big preflop aggression everyone may just fold preflop and if it gets postflop with lets say just 1 opponent, they will be very careful and defensive...so it is more variance to play KK like this indeed but once in a while they will win this kind of large pot

[@sgp9608]

When he bet that large into 4 people on the flop, he's pretty polarized... I would just check back on the river and hope that I'm good. He's not folding a better hand.

[@justinhart7172]

This was a great hand! I think hero turn sizing was horrible , and his river jam would have been ok if he sized small on turn. As played makes no sense to bet here

[@jackcooke2327]

What is the fish SB cold call range here preflop? Surely AA KK QQ JJ TT are all in there if they are doing that at all, and those are the hands donking flop. I think we can probably just give up on the flop immediately as an exploit.

[@JeffreyHaefner]

@@jackcooke2327 facts bro. Not even a thought for me, snap fold.

[@dannyMCDelight]

Fish? This is a professional calling a 3-bet preflop, disguising his hold hand strength

[@TheOneJameYT]

@dannyMCDelighta professional would almost always 4-bet in that spot unless they’re calling just to invite fish to their left into the pot.

[@JeffreyHaefner]

@ yep. He certainly let everyone in. Lucky he held up.

[@fadergliding]

Bart, I love the videos but you always end the videos so abruptly after the reveal. I think it would be good to ask for the caller's final thoughts and what they learned, and what you think the learning should be. It always feels like the call abruptly ends after the reveal when that's a good time to look at what assumptions were right and wrong and how the framework should be adjusted.

[@DKMCC123]

this line isn’t too surprising to see kings in vs some players. some guys play kings super passive preflop just to wait for a flop without an A, and then go balls to the wall on the flop. i don’t hate the line, but if this is a bet on the turn it’s definitely smaller, and i much prefer a check back on turn

[@michaelstephens9852]

Not sure if you ever get kings to fold here. But the pair on the river probably gets you called at a higher percentage.

[@dannyMCDelight]

Too much money in the pot to fold river bet. Maybe if both players were deeper stacks, like $10K before hand

[@michaelstephens9852]

@dannyMCDelight i agree. But the guy still tank called. So people do get scared by the amount of the bet not considering pot odds.

[@1vailchris]

Haven't gotten to the reveal yet. Wondering if V ever plays T9 this way. EDIT - Just got the reveal. I'm never putting V on AA/KK when he cold-calls pre-flop in the SB. As hero, I'd call flop, check back turn, and maybe call a smallish river bet. Hard to avoid losing a bunch of money with top pair and the back door draws.

[@EllieBanks333]

T9 donks here for 350 on flop?

[@snared_]

They're scared to put more money in pre-flop in case the flop has an A in it. I've seen many players cold-call 3-bets with KK and then bet big (donk if they're out of position) if the flop doesn't have an A in it.

[@1vailchris]

@@EllieBanks333 I wouldn't expect V to have any donks into three opponents, first to act in a 3B pot, so we need to try to get inside the head of someone who is doing something unorthodox. T9s with the BDFD/BDSD - middle pair with two backs draws makes as much sense as flatting pre with over-pairs.

[@Mathemagical55]

"There's not a lot of good turn cards for you." Well only a king, queen, jack, nine, or heart.

[@JeffreyHaefner]

Easy fold on flop. Would have avoided the entire hand disaster.

[@BroncoWalker25]

I agree. This guy bet out into a 4 way pot. Unless he's a total whale this is super strong. A lot of 88, 44, JJ, JTs, and slowplayed big pairs. Not surprised at all that he had KK.

[@JeffreyHaefner]

@ yea, if we’re playing for back doors, then we need a cheaper price on the flop. It’s not like he bet 1/4th pot on the flop. We aren’t deep enough for this hopeful optimistic call from the SB first to act in a 3 bet pot 4 handed.

[@Llamabets]

Thank you call again

[@realrollio]

I live in San Francisco and play at all these places with the button blind. I dislike it as it's the card room basically preventing a chop. You're not allowed to chop 3 ways. Worst part is I find myself overplaying my button cuz I gotta defend that blind.

[@juhiss912]

First of all, I would fold the flop. That is so incredibly strong to donk into 3 other players, when it was a 3bet pre. It's way too strong also I think he would check KQs out of position a lot here, and he would also 4bet a lot of AKs & AQs pre. So no, I don't he's on a draw. I think it's absolutely a fold on the flop. So when we call & he checks turn it's always a check back. There's no reason to bet here, you have a pot sized bet left if you hit the river there's no need to do it. If you want to bet at least bet like 250 or 300 so that you have some stack behind. But I would never bet turn. And of course the river shove I think it COULD work if you had more behind. But yeah this is just bad bad bad. No reason to bet or even be in the hand when a cold caller donks into 3 players, it's always value he would check/call draws.

[@dylangiaccio9532]

probably bad sizing on the turn hurts him here but thats a pretty great call from villain

[@DavidSmith-lj1yz]

I'm a fish so just a thought...when the river pairs the board you can bluff it vs weaker players but good players realize that's almost always a gin card when they hold an OP as it counterfeits the 2 pairs. Also if we put V on an OP then we should reraise flop and bet turn big..we are trying to rep 2 pair .. if V is a thinking player and we think he will ever fold an OP....im probably giving up when river pairs board...lots of stuff in this hand.

[@juhiss912]

If we put villain on an overpair we're 1) folding the flop, and 2) not gonna get enough folds on brick turns if we jam like a bit below pot.

[@Broke_Stacker]

I’m not a fan of Running Twice for this exact reason. The proper play here if RIT is to jam the turn w/the straight flush draw.

[@supersmoo7377]

If Villain is slow-playing that hand pre-flop, then the river decision should be a snap call for him! Not a ten minute tank!! Villain is good on the river over 90% of the time as played.

[@Jermo484]

He wasn't "slow playing" as like a trap. He's just a very bad, very scared player who has no clue what's going on ever.

[@dannyMCDelight]

@@Jermo484 bad player was good enough to call river bluff 😂 . For you pros, if someone is first to act and overbets pot, they usually have it.

[@Jermo484]

@dannyMCDelight uh, he didn't overbet the pot. He bet a little over half. And I've seen this with draws and weak or middling top pairs far, far more often than with sets, overpairs or other good value. The villain played this absolutely horrifically. Not saying the hero played it well, but if you think villain did anything right, you're bananas.

[@supersmoo7377]

@@Jermo484 That's certainly possible.. But we don't know exactly what was going on in his mind. Yes, he could've been scared Hero on the BU 3-bet with AA... OR he could have thought "let me be trappy with KK here".. we'll never know. But tanking on the river for 10 minutes with that final community board is madness.

[@FuzzypupPoker]

@15:00 - 100%. From my experience.... at 1/2 $100 is a large bet.... 2/5 $500 cap $200 is a large bet....... higher or equal stakes with $1,000 cap and player buying in for that $400 to $500 is a large bet. The recs don't realize the odds and just look at the absolute value regardless of pot size.

[@jaydenredfern6506]

That turn bet and sizing is so bad

[@Dexerion]

Shove the turn would be more likely to get him to fold I think. He beats J10 once the board pairs. I think if you want to run this bluff you need to do it on the turn.

[@wesleykorisky8600]

If hero wanted to realize maximum equity they should have just jammed the turn in my opinion. Puts a ton of pressure on all of villains single pair hands, and when called hero won't lose value on the river to scare cards of he has the best hand/rivers the best hand.

[@EllieBanks333]

Because of the SPR here, I agree. Turn should be a check back or jam.

[@BroncoWalker25]

100% its a check or a jam. Wtf i dont even understand how a small bet makes sense on this board. It looks like a BS bet because it is one.

[@jamesbell1613]

KK is a snap call on the river. Paired board and nothing gets there.

[@JMTavares7]

4:30 in i snap fold this flop

[@paulmascotti3645]

Pocket kings is a 4 bet all day long pre flop especially wit that many people calling

[@JeffreyHaefner]

Some ppl just don’t ever reraise pre if it’s not AA.

[@fbhan7]

Disagree. Cold 4 betting is only a good move if the 3bettor is calling everything or 5 bets light. Otherwise, your cold 4 bet range is too unbalanced and consists of only strong hands. Makes it very easy for the 3bettor to fold a large chunk of hands that you dominate.

[@JeffreyHaefner]

@@fbhan7 exactly why they don’t 4 bet anything. They know it’s perceived as too strong, so they’ll default to flatting w QQ,KK and even AA sometimes.

[@dustinglasier6417]

​@@fbhan7If your 4! range is too unbalanced towards thicc value, the fix isn't to remove strong hands from your 4! range, it's to add more 4! bluffs (A2-5ss, KQss). Flatting KK-TT out of position just leaves you in a series of bad spots when the pot starts ballooning unless you hit gin on the flop with a set.

[@glaubs65]

@@dustinglasier6417 Maybe but people do it all the time. They seem to love doing it. I suspected this guy had AA or KK from the start. It's very common at these stakes.

[@glaubs65]

I suspected this guy had AA or KK ever since he cold called in the SB pre.

[@LinusK500]

The turn seems like a shove to me. I see QQ, AJ, and KQ as his most likely hands. KQ will usually fold, AJ will sometimes fold, and you've got a ton of equity against QQ.

[@Jermo484]

Why, exactly, are we jamming to get him to fold the hand we're miles ahead of when we know he's calling with a hand that has us very crushed and maybe calling with another hand that's way ahead?

[@LinusK500]

@@Jermo484 read again

[@Jermo484]

@@LinusK500 I read it. It makes no sense. You want to jam, have KQ fold, have QQ call and have AJ maybe call. That's lightning money on fire.

[@LinusK500]

@@Jermo484 KQ has ~20% equity. AJ has about 75% equity. There are 20 combos of AJ and KQ, and 3 combos of QQ. If QQ sometimes folds, you're printing.

[@Jermo484]

@LinusK500 QQ and AJ are literally never folding. Again, why do you WANT KQ to fold? Lol

[@JLRRyan]

In the Bay in a 2-3-5 game if it folds to you on the button, raise or fold. Just don't limp in because then they take the rake. If you raise and they fold out, you keep $6, 1 for the drop and 1 for the jackpot. It's not rocket science

[@timhefner4056]

Can someone explain why they call it a "donk lead"

[@ticenits1926]

Aces don't play like this. Heroes range doesn't make any sense because he shouldn't be trying to bluff with top pair, hence sb 's tank with Kings.

[@iamamish]

Dude wtf - SB has 3 blinds behind him and he decides that is a good time to flat pocket kings to a 3-bet?

[@YoyoDevo]

Fold the flop as an exploit

[@milesmiller2733]

just check back the river. he's never folding

[@Llamabets]

Barts awkward laugh gives me extreme anxiety

[@scholesiefirsttime]

Odd pre-flop play from the villain. Allowing 4 opponents sitting with KK. Strange.

[@Bobbypinker]

This is a bad river bluff. For the pot odds he's giving the villain, and the way the hand was played up to this point, the hands he's trying to get to fold (QQ, AJ or better) all have to call. When this is checked to you and you have top pair, you have more than enough showdown value to check back. All this bluff does is make sure you stack yourself. Anything you get to fold here you were beating anyway, so it's a pointless bet unless you know the guy is an absolute nit who sees monsters under the bed and would put you on an 8 somehow and fold.

[@emekdulgeroglu3914]

SB's not 4betting the KK surprised me. But small stake mistake turned into a double up 😂

[@EllieBanks333]

I'm not sure it was a mistake. Look back to the pre-flop configuration. SB 4 betting pre looks like a range of JJ+ and AK to me. His 4 bet is going to end the hand quite often.

[@scholesiefirsttime]

@@EllieBanks333 There’s $200 in the pot at that point - three players. Odds are that you’re getting one caller with a 2.5-3x raise - increasing the pot whilst thinning the field. If not, you take the $200 unopposed. Worked out for the villain but a lot of the time it doesn’t.

[@danbreilin9169]

Has to be 7 handed if there's a limper

[@EllieBanks333]

BTN $2. SB $3. BB $5 STRD $10. UTG Limps. CO R $40. Action on BTN/Hero. 6 handed.

[@royalflush8173]

He cold have a set.of 4s

[@lewisriddle5859]

Check back river. Never get called by worse

[@BroncoWalker25]

IMO turn is only a jam or a check. Every other size looks like total BS. As played... Flop is a fold against most villains. Turn is a check or a jam. River is a check.

[@Steven-f3d4n]

M8TRIX AND BAY 101 ARE JUST OUTSIDE OF SAN JOSE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT

[@welcometoukraine3839]

Calling flop is questionable, turn sizing is bad, river bluff is terrible. The whole hand was played wrong

[@Dexerion]

Agreed, I'd foled the flop, shoved the turn and checked the river if I played the previous street the same as the hero.

[@Jermo484]

It's not vaguely questionable. That's a very clear continue with all of his draws crushed and plenty of backdoor equity in position. 0% chance you post this comment if we get to the river and the villain snap folds KQ or 98.

[@EllieBanks333]

@@Jermo484 If I think villain ever has 98 in this spot, that changes everything. It means villain is an imbecile, so I must adjust my play accordingly. KQ is the hand that hero is hoping villain has, because the rest of his range is beating us.

[@Jermo484]

@EllieBanks333 uh, the villain WAS an imbecile.

[@andrew9921-]

Flop call is very understandable but the turn bet was bad

[@JeffreyHaefner]

Just don’t understand why we think the QJ fares well after SB leads into the field. No, I don’t have him on KQ, ever in my life. Easy fold on flop. It’s 4 handed my god lolz. SB leads into the field. Zzz…… 😴

[@Mathemagical55]

Because we have 21 outs to improve and are getting 3-1 in position.

[@JeffreyHaefner]

@ I’m referring to the flop. Easy fold on flop. If we get to the turn then yes clearly we aren’t folding to a CHECK.

[@JeffreyHaefner]

@ do we think SB is leading out w ANY hand we beat? Nope. J9 maybe? One hand we have out kicked? Nope. SB never calling the 3 bet pre w J9. Therefore it’s a trivially easy fold on the flop. His range is KJs-AJ, QQ, KK, AA, or set. Easy fold IMO

[@Mathemagical55]

@@JeffreyHaefner I know you're referring to the flop. Any heart, king, queen, jack, or nine gives us a strong hand and that's 21 outs. QJhh has 23.3% equity against KK and 25% against AA. After the turn we're 38.6% against KK/AA. Where hero misplayed the hand was the river bluff. If he jams when he gets there it's a very profitable line.

[@JeffreyHaefner]

@ could be correct. Not sure if villian pays off the shove to a river J or a river Q. Sure the heart he may pay off.

[@info7681]

Everyone here acting like they are pro. If you just give up on the flop you need to stop playing poker we have a lot of backdoors and we are deep enough. Also we dont know villians image they didnt really described it. But I would probably check for potcontrol instead of betting.

[@nuggetlover9431]

Bart lose some weight! It looks nice!

[@fbhan7]

This is why calling 3bets with strong hands is the right move. Opponents hand was disguised well.

[@Fred-rg5vw]

Preflop action looks like nobody is taking heros raise seriously he must have a loose image.. Flop lead is weird. Very tight but i am an omc..might just fold there. Doubt kq suiited would bet that big on flop. . My iintial thought was 10 j.

[@jimsmith1856]

3 mins in I gave up trying to understand this person.

[@sQuaTsiFieD]

Wow you need some serious culture. His English is fine and is easy to understand him. Would love to know where you're from.

[@rotatoe]

@@sQuaTsiFieDwow he is entitled to his own opinions, I bet he is more cultured than you

[@Cerealkiller050]

Not sure cultured and not being able to understand someone is remotely the same thing

[@sQuaTsiFieD]

@@Cerealkiller050 the fact he made that comment is the point. The caller can be understood just fine, such a dumbass comment to make by him.

[@rotatoe]

@@sQuaTsiFieD he was just making an observation. Don’t need to get so upset, is your English worse than the callers or something?