$12,000 Pot at $10/$20 with Full House

[@CrushlivePoker]

Playing on the Hustler Casino Live 5/5/100 ante game tonight!. Starts at 8PM ET / 5PM ET over at kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6iwepuCqLeEjdU

[@daritzy1379]

Cant wait

[@jasonwright2291]

Good luck Bart! 🙏🏻

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

19:20 “at lower stakes it’s an instant dump on the river” Yeah, if I overbet the river with bottom full house and then got jammed on I’d probably shit myself too.

[@philip-op6de]

People tend to overplay their baby full houses because “I have a full house” 😂

[@vietduc562]

I don’t know why but I learn a lot more about Poker from your videos and commentary on hcl, than anywhere else. Thanks for that and keep up the good content😁

[@JimBuckleyBarrett]

If the villain had AA, KK, JJ, AJ or KJ why check on the river after the hero checked the turn? Losing potential value. I would have called as well.

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

I would never be able to fold to that player ever again after the way he played that river

[@dylanchurchill1094]

Hey Bart! Not sure if you ever do this or are open to it… but it might be interesting with certain hands to go back through it as if you were giving insight and guidance to the villain’s hand and play style. 8s is obviously very disguised in this spot, I wonder how you would have guided the villain in this case with Ax?

[@Steve-eb8jc]

know this kid, always see him at the parx high limit baccarat around 7 am

[@philip-op6de]

Playing High Limit Bacarat is just wild AF 😅

[@youngdoodle]

hi I am the villain in this hand. I am fucking 22 years old wtf middle aged? also i had AQhh

[@youngdoodle]

i didnt muck my hand until he tabled his hand but i told him he’s good

[@youngdoodle]

just because he’s uncapped doesnt mean i should never bluff lol. sometimes i get snapped by KK and AA

[@updog8985]

lol cant believe you tried to bluff a dude that didn't even know how to read the suits on his cards

[@greedygrant7788]

LMAO my bad I was nervous during the call I did correct myself later

[@bambooslicer558]

@@greedygrant7788 sits when he pees

[@z17seattle]

Wow Tom Green calling in a hand to CLP! What a crossover!

[@RB-jf5ww]

Man, there is a lot of hate for “Middle Aged” players…. Lol, I am 40 and I’m here.

[@willis4585]

It's just because alot of people that age group play too tight and consider it GTO. They basically hate anything under 77/88. Fun sometimes to have at a table and bluff but 3-4 of em at a table and your value drastically gets cut into

[@danielklunk4984]

Me too

[@RB-jf5ww]

@@willis4585 lol, I usually see that in the age group above me. Starting with the 50-60 year olds.

[@willis4585]

@@RB-jf5ww Texas 1/2 atleast where I'm at ATM you see alot of 30-40 year olds and even some young cats on the strict 12-15% ranges just playing fold em on 1/2s waiting for big hands cause they know they'll get paid

[@shawnlinville7907]

Ok boomers

[@supportGEM]

I am curious about hero's overbetting range on the river. The value portion can contain AK or some Jx only if villain's range is super capped (AKA villain will bet all Jx or better on the river). If villain actually checks back some good hands, I don't think we can ever overbet AK or even Jx for value. If hero is having 2 sizings on the river, a normal 75% bet for AK and Jx, and an overbet for QT or better, then we don't really have to defend a lot facing a jam. Obviously if you put all hands into the overbet bucket assuming that villain's range is super capped, then you have to defend a lot facing a jam. Even then, villain's jam is so gigantic that he can't jam thin for value even we are value bet kinda thin ourselves. Villain is betting $5400 into a $3120 pot. From a MDF perspective hero only needs to defend 37% of his overbetting range. If you put the ranges into a range analyzer you can see that 30% of hero's overbetting range is full house or better. I doubt villain can value jam AJo for value even when hero has all AK and Jx in his range. If we rule out Jx as an overplay value jam by villain, I think AK and Jx is actually a much better call then 88. I think 88 is quite a poor combo to call. You basically block none of villain's value range.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

Loads of people here saying this is a fold, but what value hands does villain really take this line with? AA/KK have to be discounted at least somewhat as they’ll often 4 bet pre. AA/KK/JJ/AJ/KJ would also surely check-raise the flop at some frequency, due to the concern of a Q or T coming and either putting them behind or killing their action. But aside from that issue, what boats hands check this river after the turn goes check-check? Surely they lead the river almost always?

[@adamseidel9780]

River overbet call line seems super sketchy, conflicts its own logic. Well played to that point. Liked Bart’s breakdown on why the smaller bet seemed better.

[@timbok83]

Screams of a bluff or bet fold strategy. Problem is villain barely has any major value except the one combo of quads and slowplayed aces full. So if villain knows hero knows this, villain is making a bad shove. But villain didn’t think hero was so good at hand reading.

[@allenjohnson1523]

My initial thoughts. Not cbetting this board with no bd cards what so ever.....his entire utg range calls.

[@williammorgan7934]

Side note. I've been seeing a lot of these "I want the pot and the only way i can get is a river jam", even at lower stakes, since the advent of the high stakes streams.

[@ronbruh1878]

Parx has a few messed up rules (or only pertaining to them). What he said is one. I muck, he must show. So you get ZERO info on how I played my hand. 2) this one I really don't like: if I'm in position and I'm the aggressor on the turn but it goes check, check in the river then you have to show first! It's not last aggressor. On the positive side: it's a great room, run well (they don't take ANY BS), fair to all. Well lit, nice chips and chairs. Most importantly, they have great dealers!

[@noex100]

The 2nd rule mentioned is pretty common at most casinos, probably at least 50% of them. It originates from Robert's Rules and has become the standard.

[@jasonwright2291]

Great break down as usual. I see the size of your coffee cup matches your poker brain size.

[@youbluethatone1017]

Tiny??

[@jasonwright2291]

@@youbluethatone1017 You just can’t stand any happiness in the world eh, gotta cut em down. I hope you live this life forever.

[@youbluethatone1017]

@@jasonwright2291 love you

[@rppoker4768]

I have played this guy at 10-10 and 2-5 and the funny thing is I have played the big Indian guy at 5-5 plo. The Indian guy is a huge bluffer at 5-5 plo

[@kineahora8736]

River bet decision: does villain have anything they want to call you with? QQ? KQ? AQ? I don’t see villain checking any jacks on the river. So I want to value target these-maybe go 70% After getting jammed, I think he has KJs minimum. Such a sick spot. Wow he was bluffing…

[@danieldunn4769]

makes more sense to polarize river with hands like 66-99 to make AQ and AT indifferent if hes never checking Jx it just makes our over bet better because he has to call some weak hands or hes just going to wind up folding range... theres some argument for just over betting bluffs if thats whats happening to actually get called against a weaker opponent whose not going to catch on but i prefer to make max cash :D

[@patrick_kyker]

I still don't see how he's getting value on the River from a guy that checked twice he's really calling over pot bet?

[@ryanlisterman1864]

It’s easy to forget, describing younger middle aged guys is literally us 😆

[@Ihave10billionsubs]

I'm 44. I guess I'm "younger middle aged"? lol

[@edwincos4278]

Wow good call. I would of had a half pot bet/fold strategy on the river. By over betting you will only get called by better boats and fold out hands you want to call. Like AK Q10.

[@r77oliver]

I think V was trying to raise off a chop

[@FuzzypupPoker]

Assuming this very call range of QQ-22, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, AKo A 1/3psb is 0EV. I would think this is a perfect board to balanced your 3b preflop, check back turn range.

[@modestomouso1234]

I can get on board with that, but then what is our plan for future streets? What cards are we barreling? What are we doing if V leads turn?

[@FuzzypupPoker]

@@modestomouso1234 Note I am NOT an expert at this level. I never played this level. But if you 3b against an UTG player, XBC, and he donk leads the turn into us I think our hand is dead and it's a fold if the best is larger than around 1/3psb #1 he is UTG #2 he called the 3b OOP #3 you bet the flop when checked to #4 your flop bet represents 100% of your range #5 he LEAD into a board that hits your "I just 3b the UTG player" range. The other option to calling is raising less than what is in the pot if he donk bets small. The reason is that slightly more than 50% of his XC flop range is weaker than TP assuming the range I put in above. This also assumes he is bluff betting the turn 100% of the time with that range. But if he bets more than 1/3rd I am folding. He has too many hands he isn't giving up. We also don't know what frequency he does bluff bet his XC flop range. As for this situation on the river..... You have his whole range and most of it is XCing. So I would look at what range is XRAI OTR for value then assign about a 1 to 2 combo range of bluffs. So say his value range is AA, KK, JJ (7 combos) you have to find like 3 combos of bluffs to make a call because you are getting 2.5:1. Just in weak pairs he could XC the flop XX the turn like just 77, KTs will justify it. Because you bet 1/3psb OTF it mandates he calls with a very wide range that includes even 22. Due to the fact it is these limits and the odds yea I would tend to call. 1/3 I would fold lol. No one thinks on this level. But I will reiterate I don't play at this level nor do I play players as good as I do remotely often. In fact I haven't played live in months due to business and family issues going on. I really want to start going back to playing live. Havent even played online.

[@HolySpicoli]

Check call essentially min bet, check check back, no difference river check is not a strong hand. No reason for villain to think hero has any part of that board. I’m going on record calling it a bluff at 19:00

[@CowboyRocksteady]

this was a good ass hand to listen to

[@moneymikz]

That’s the dumbest rule, even if I’m playing the board I win if they mucked

[@sr4087]

only thing I can think is it's to stop collusion after pushing out a third player on a prior street i.e

[@Yilikeitthisway]

Yeah firstly I said snapfold but then I counted value: maybe some KK that didnt 4b lets say 1 combo of that and 1 combo of KJs and AJs each which might not even jam.. so he needs to have like 0.5 bluff or worse, if he EVER once in a blue moon jams straight, Jack or bluff then we cant fold this for this price reasonably.

[@adamshort2534]

It's interesting there is a discussion of whether someone is capable of bluffing without a discussion of whether OOP should actually have any raises here. I'm not sure it makes sense to ever raise here as the OOP player at equilibrium. He is at a major disadvantage facing a 3bet pre and a board that heavily favors the aggressor, and then he checks three times. What nutted hands can he have? JJ? does JJ check/call, check/check, check? Does AJ? KK? Meanwhile what is bet/folding in hero's range? Bluffs.

[@effortlessawareness8778]

In the end, the caller is simply trying to understand villain’s psychological nature and his decision making on why he did what he did. Perhaps Villain isn’t as fundamentally planned about what hands he calls what hands he bluffs with. He may have just went off of an instinct in that spot that you would never overbet your boats on the river and maybe he felt like his middling pair QQ or something wasn’t good? I know right why would he bluff raise you if he thought you were bluffing and simply just call? You know, I realized that even i was doing this for alot of my poker career and despite it being successful id say alot of pretty average pretty good players were doing this missing this huge fallacy- human beings are not rigidly rational decision makers, so trying to understand why he did what he did, he may not have thought too much about it whenhe did it, so perhaps there is no point in looking so deeply into it? you see my point ?

[@ronbondie9502]

some older ppl def. keep up on poker studies. 😎thanks for the vids Bart

[@financelance994]

Next time, make sure he mucks or shows before you table your hand. With that rule, it allows the aggressor to see your hand prior to tabling theirs by proclaiming “good hand”

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

Yeah I was about to say, he gave away his advantage by being the caller.

[@OnTheEdgePodcast]

Great breakdown. Thanks!!!

[@Stamps600]

Definitely results oriented result. I just think you will run into a lot more amateurs slow playing their AJ or KJ here than bluffing. Don't understand opponent saying AK is getting value from when AJ and KJ are the same range. As played Q10s just is not extremely unlikely with 3 bet then slow play. River call just don't think he is right a third of fourth of the time

[@Stamps600]

3rd or 4th of the time.*

[@miningpotato9311]

We have this rule at our local casinos. It's a gaming rule apparently to prevent collusion. A live hand must be shown to win the pot. I have this exact thing happen to me where I check called the river to get the villain to bluff and he threw his cards into the muck and I was force to show my hand. I was furious at this stupid rule.

[@Itsmesnakepoker]

Ace 8?

[@willh4340]

Potawatomi in Milwaukee has that same stupid rule, where you must show your hand to win the hand to win the pot, even when they muck.

[@josephweekes1660]

I thought that AQ, ATs if he has it pre and KQs are the only hands that make sense as bluffs

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

But that’s 9 bluff combos. Or 18 if you’re giving him AQo as well. And all of those combos probably get to the river this way. There’s only 9 combos of AA, KK, AJs and KJs and some of those hands will 4 bet preflop (AA/KK) raise the flop or lead the river. So if you think the guy is ever capable of turning AQs, ATs or KQs into bluffs, the river has to be a call.

[@robertbaynham2193]

You should’ve seen the limitless hand at live at the bike. Great bluff from limitless

[@GokuTheSuperSaiyan1]

I think villain was probably trying to get trips to fold, as far as river bluffs go

[@theWATRpodcast]

12:07 can someone explain to me who would actually check back ANY boat? And why, I can't imagine myself checking back any boat here

[@michaeldumas4907]

I like how you show the hand on screen

[@T5252H]

Hero is welcome at my home game any time

[@clownworld5474]

I wouldn't overbet river with this specific hand. As played I thought the river was a fold, suprised you were good tbh

[@sr4087]

before end revealed, my theory is villain is naturally checking to the pre flop raiser and aggressor his worst hand here is ak, praying for canuck hero

[@sr4087]

I've seen goat Andy run bluffs like this with blockers to boats all day

[@Tyler-nq8ol]

I usually have trouble folding the river but I think this one I may have done it

[@joshrandor4371]

Everything I listen to these I know exactly what to do...Every time I play I punt my stack. LOL!

[@thelurker12]

Villain maybe had QQ, good call though! Certainly wouldn't be doing that at 1/3 or 2/5 I think

[@qazzaqstan]

QQ seems like a really bad bluff though, I assume you prefer Ax or Kx to block boats. It is also weird though because there are so few value hands for the price villain only needs between 0.5 - 2 bluff combos.

[@thelurker12]

@@qazzaqstan I agree but I am trying to think of a hand he could have had that he would have mucked without showing. An ace would show I think

[@qazzaqstan]

@@thelurker12 I wonder if it really was AK and he just didn’t want show turning that into bluff since call is the default play. The end makes it sound like hero showed before the hand was fully dead

[@Mathemagical55]

If you're going to call a river check-raise then you want opponent's range to have as many bluffs as possible. Caller's justification for the overbet (less likely that opponent bluffs) therefore makes no sense. It's not necessarily wrong - in fact he won the maximum - just illogical.

[@mackcab200]

What happens to the pot if he decides not to show?

[@enricopallazzo3244]

If you don’t remember the suits and they don’t matter, just make them up

[@chelseafanfromasia]

Villain just flatted a single 3bet oop, so he probably doesn't have aces or Kings that often. Jacks, AJs and KJs(depends on the suits combo on board) are very likely though. If the opponent at this level is capable of check shoving a overpot bet on the river as a bluff, I don't see why he can't play KJ or AJ this way for value. Hero didn't play his hand like he has aces or kings either, with a tiny flop cbet and turn check back.

[@quisdontmiss]

Great breakdown! I agree with a lot that was said. The tell for me though and it may sound very simple is that he tanked after the bet on the river by hero. If he has AJ or JJ or KJ it’s either a snap call or snap raise. It’s the nuts. That’s just my two cents.

[@SucceedREI]

That doesn’t make any cents…

[@quisdontmiss]

@@SucceedREI now I have to edit it even more😭

[@SucceedREI]

@@quisdontmiss 😂😁

[@SucceedREI]

@@quisdontmiss Now, no one will understand why I said that lol

[@Ihave10billionsubs]

I don't agree with the sentiment that how long someone takes to make a decision correlates with hand weakness/strength... at least in most cases. Maybe at 1/2 or 1/3 games then yes. But otherwise I don't see any correlation, at least in my experience.

[@modestomouso1234]

Parx is the fkn best btw, good lawd are those 1/3 - 2/5 games soft as hell. Actually heading over there in a bit for an afternoon sesh

[@eyeofchorus6313]

It's been 20 years since I last encountered that rule, you must show your hand to claim the pot.

[@Stamps600]

Not a rare rule just rarely enforced by dealers.

[@andrewandthecatfives]

If your opponent mucks and you don’t show, what happens to the pot?

[@eyeofchorus6313]

@@andrewandthecatfives It gets pushed to me without me showing.

[@KingKoin88]

That’s it at live, other than 1 card bigger FH, never never fold a FH!

[@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511]

my initial thought half way through is he had AQ and was trying to blow hero off of a chop

[@GokuTheSuperSaiyan1]

Right, I thought the villain might have also been trying to get trip J's to fold with his bluff

[@DannyAIC]

That’s a great call. As played, villain could absolutely be bluffing with any two. Heroes check on the turn was screaming weakness or AK at best. Villain probably thought he could get AK AQ to fold to a river bet. And he probably also thought the 8 was a brick.

[@Arrowstompin]

The bigger the coffee cup, the bigger the man

[@dajerseyrat]

Gotta love PARX poker. Flop bingo all the time. These 2.5-3.5x raise pre get you called 5 ways usually. LoL 🤣🤣🤣

[@momokill1]

you guys missed his double check back range on turn and river. I don't see anyone double checking here then check raising all in with anything except JJ or air. unless there is some crazy history.t

[@user-fb4je1xv1d]

AA is the only had makes sense as a value shove at the end. Super rare for the villain to check three times with anything else here.

[@andrewandthecatfives]

Villain could easily have AJ or KJ

[@novapokerplayer207]

If the villain really did turn something like AQ into a bluff, that's just an absolutely horrible play, especially at those stakes.

[@waterbottle1]

@@andrewandthecatfives you don’t think most would raise on the flop with two pair? Esp KJ? AJ does make sense too.

[@josephwatson7232]

The only real bluffs are a pair of aces or a pair of kings. He wouldn’t go call check check with great hands as you might check it down on the river

[@nickmullen402]

I wonder what the fuck this guy had. If he talked himself into this bluff and then hero shows 88 (which he probably expects to fold) then I bet he was tilted

[@johnmoran5120]

I think the winner can ask to see the other hand, but it is live.

[@966631514]

too bad we didn't get villain's hand. i would have said "any boat wins." or "show me one" if he still stalls. that's a really dumb rule.

[@sinatra222]

The caller sounds like Ike Haxton.

[@gtorobot]

You said u thought he was capped - u literally called thinking you could get your 88 thru...then you get jammed on now your in a blender??? You really make no sense - based upon your previous thoughts should have been a snap call...

[@DescartesRenegade]

If turn were an Ace, why wouldn't Kx call again? It makes it less likely hero has Ace and not more just cause hero barrels; it doesn't change the math. The tank jam is suspicious. KK or better almost never tanks. It would be a fairly quick jam. This was Villian's mistake. Too much thinking time went by already.

[@CrushlivePoker]

I mean did you watch the video? I explained exactly why

[@moaf2padventures757]

@@CrushlivePoker whats really funny about his comment is that you explained your reasoning BEFORE you said that a king might fold. at 9:05 you start talking about your theory that live players forget that another ace coming makes it less likely that you have it. then at about 9:50 you conclude by saying that youd be more likely to barrel if the turn was an ace bc a king is more likely to fold... lol so did the commenter above just like skip to that part randomly??

[@DescartesRenegade]

@@CrushlivePoker yea, you said if hero bets again he's repping an Ace or that an Ace is more likely to continuing firing, but it still doesn't change the math.

[@CrushlivePoker]

The comment above you said it best. You should go back and relisten

[@CrushlivePoker]

@@moaf2padventures757 that’s what I can’t figure out

[@moaf2padventures757]

pretty much hate the way hero played this on every street. also, titling this video "12k pot with a full house" is kinda burying the lede lol.

[@Vpopov81]

Wow......

[@lakerfan1855]

This dude got really annoying to listen to at the end

[@dajerseyrat]

That's a bullshit rule. You called him, I'm waiting to see his cards. You paid to see them.

[@fevolenko3995]

I give credit to villain. His read from jump was his A was good. He was spot on but villain hit world's most unlikely boat. He also correctly realises hero will fold a straight and likely QJ and TJ and AK.. So villain played well and hero got lucky... NEXT

[@Stamps600]

From the way hero played I think he is calling all 3 of a kind or better hands... Versus this player I think he is a winner at low stakes and loses at higher stakes since he doesn't fold any value.

[@ronbruh1878]

Bart, I would really appreciate your opinion on what I'm going to say. I read years ago when you sit down at a table you shouldn't play a hand for the first 2 orbits unless you have QQ or better. Reason: find out standard raise amount, get a feel for who's winning/losing, who's on tilt, etc.. get some info. I've been ripped a new one on this philosophy but I hear so many times, like your caller, they're in a difficult position and have ZERO info on the opponent/ table. Love to hear your thoughts.

[@CrushlivePoker]

Maybe for cusp hands that you would open like 50% if the time or less you can pass, but folding 99-JJ? AQ+, come on

[@Gos1234567]

Lol this is ridiculous and whoever told you this strategy is trolling 🤣😂

[@imacarrot6570]

Dude sounds a bit like Dwan

[@TheDjcarter1966]

I think this is pretty results oriented after the river jam exactly what range is betting this way that you beat except an A or K that is bluffing hero got really lucky he was playing a really bad player and with no read on the player that's a losing play in the long run

[@christophermanning6146]

Break the hand down, it doesn't make sense. AA / KK likely 4bets being that deep, or just even in general. Do AA/KK/JJ check on the river when he checks back the turn? There's AJ potentially too but it sure feels like bluff given the action and the board. Making a habit of laying down small boats is pretty exploitable. Sometimes you're wrong but given the price and action, I'd lean towards a call unless it's an OMC.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

Why are you so certainly villain was “a really bad player”? It’s not necessarily bad to bluff and get called right? Obviously you need to pick the right spots and hands, but current poker theory would suggest you should always have some bluffs when you make a bet.

[@jamesbell1613]

Ridiculous rule at Parx.

[@joehenry9546]

99% of the time this is a fold.

[@Adam-fb5nt]

Intermediate player here. Isn't there a case to just give up with that flop? I feel like if I'm isolating a UTG raiser with 88, that's the last flop I want to see.

[@karlinchina]

You still have AA, KK, AK in your range more than UTG. If you just play your hand, people will notice and exploit you. If you do bet flop, as Bart and caller both mentioned, you have to continue your story on the turn and maybe river.

[@Adam-fb5nt]

@@karlinchina I understand. But isn't UTG's range quite strong as well? At least if they are a "normal" competent player? The flop seems to smash their range, unless people are opening UTG way wider than they are supposed to. I understand you don't want to be exploitable, but there's SO many hands that connected with that flop that they're not folding to 2 barrels. And, if I'm projecting that I'll have to 3 barrel, I'd rather wait for a hand where I have at least a little equity with a draw of some kind.

[@Adam-fb5nt]

I mean, isn't c-betting every time you 3-bet pre also exploitable?

[@karlinchina]

@@Adam-fb5nt Of course, but not every board is AKX. If it's T98 then you could possibly check most hands, including AA.

[@456redskins]

Bart, big fan but I will never understand why you wouldn't have a $5.00 calculator next to you rather than all of us suffer thru your math skills lol.

[@josephwatson7232]

He’s doing the math that people at the table do or that he would do live. It’s how he would think about it. If you want a solver ask a solver not him

[@gazorpazorp9798]

Does villain have AA? Yikes

[@elliotsmeal3516]

Stopping at 22 minutes, As8s seems like a logical bluff in this spot. I don't understand why a player would muck when called though.

[@markl8893]

Enough of this AK talk, AK is the most overplayed hand in holdem and nobody especialiy live flats ak to a 3bet thats not in his range one bit but pocket jacks is for sure

[@sportspokerguy3506]

Q 10 flopped straight might do this

[@clownworld5474]

I doubt it, especially verses a river overbet, especially if 88 is a debatable call. JQ is probably a better call theoretically than 88, if you don't overbet river. The overbet doesn't really achieve anything as the don't really have any straights as played and even Jx isn't a particularly easy call v that size

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

What turn QT into a bluff? Seems questionable. Would QT just bet-fold the river?

[@kaylamorgan9406]

These long pauses by caller are cringeworthy

[@jamesjones2675]

This caller is tough to listen to.

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[@bepositive2172]

Parks 0:01

[@bepositive2172]

Parks

[@trampingwithcosmo6848]

Q10

[@kcpee4208]

DNegs would have folded!! Haha I kid, not at this stakes he wouldn't.

[@michaelcapozzoli6021]

Q, 10