The Ultimate Guide to Understanding the Damage Meta

[@AllThePlayers]

hi Cruz is there any reason you didn't mention Sweet Business Actium War Rig in this ?

[@thetvCruz]

ATP I'm strat hiding with salt

[@Alps7]

There’s some really useful information in here. Thanks!

[@petervalvo1186]

Just curious, but why deadfall over mobius quiver? The total tether time is the same (12 seconds deadfall, 2x quiver charges for 6 seconds each), but quiver just does more damage

[@thetvCruz]

Deadfall is better at having the debuff sustain due to the longevity if it grabs adds + fire and forget. Super optimized strats will always use moebius, but it isn't something I'd plan to have nailed down for a day one as an example. Thanks for asking though :)

[@MoopleLoops]

world ain't ready for star eater moople

[@barbuxx]

what did he mean by this o_o

[@moop7663]

you got 2 more letters than me

[@ZeroTTTempest]

would it be better to run 1 kinetic surge and 2 arc surges for izi swaps? seems like that'd net more total % buff

[@thetvCruz]

Yes it would 👍

[@Deruwugen]

Do weapon surges stack with well or bubble buffs?

[@karimmostafa2304]

Does weapon surges stack with well and bubble?

[@thetvCruz]

yes, 22% on top of well/bubble/lumina etc.

[@NyxK3]

What do you reckon the optimal setup will be in terms of classes in the fireteam , or will it just come down to what kind of encounters/dps phases we get?

[@thetvCruz]

General puzzle encounters will still be dominated by Titans on Void and Warlocks on Solar, but yeah for damage ones? Pretty up in the air. Thundercats is still a super strong option for burst and goldy spam works only in stationery setups. So tbh I don't really think it matters all too much. 2 well locks is a must, but having 3rd is more of a luxury. You don't need more 2 titans or hunters at all unless they amount to most of your damage output as a result of supers...at the end of the day I think 2-2-2 is the wisest setup

[@raiou5010]

Why did you mention to run a demo primary for Starfire? I think you kinda explained it but I still didn't get it.

[@thetvCruz]

Demo allows you to never reload when shooting a boss to proc more regen on Fusion nades. So it ultimately results in a higher uptime on nades :)

[@raiou5010]

@@thetvCruz ah, thought shooting with demo had some weird interaction on Starfire but yeah that makes sense. GL on wf

[@thetvCruz]

@@raiou5010 thanks

[@arovner75]

Don't Boots of the Assembler also give a 35% damage boost with an empowering rift?

[@thetvCruz]

Yes they do! BoA are another great choice for a class buff

[@fayern8792]

Thanks for the guide ! But why do you prefer succession or yasmin over izi and arby to pair with bns cata ?

[@thetvCruz]

Charge time / Big Reload = Slower proc of BnS. Since BnS cata is where your main damage comes from, its important to get to that part asap. Seeing someone use a bow with x4Izi reload for BnS swaps kills me inside 😂

[@xbrandonkrebsx]

What I do is run a sniper loader on my boots. You can hit the x4 shot, tag with primary, then shoot all 10 bns shots. By the time you switch back to izi a shot will be loaded into the mag and you can reprock bns with a single izi shot

[@thetvCruz]

@@xbrandonkrebsx if you don't mind sacrificing a mod slot for it, this is definitely a viable work around

[@fayern8792]

@@xbrandonkrebsx holster mods are on the boots so you have to sacrifice a surge mod for it. I didn't do the maths but I don't think it's worth the trade-off

[@xbrandonkrebsx]

@@fayern8792you can load a honed edge shot while wearing a pair of boots with a holster mod before dps, let the mod put rounds back into the mag (takes about 2 seconds), then swap to boots with 3x solar surge or just swap the mod on your current boots

[@JustEclecticV1]

do you think strand hunter super is worth considering?

[@thetvCruz]

survivability is kinda ass in that thing during a day one so maybe but I doubt anyone uses it

[@havoctwoone]

How. Dare. You. Didn’t even mention the obvious top tier dps meta. Echo of Domineering two tail fox. What would vandal say if he knew you did this?

[@thetvCruz]

I'll let vandal make a video on that 😅